century. >> lincoln chafee, the newest democratic presidential candidate. governor, thanks very much for joining us. >> my pleasure. thanks for having me on. >> good luck on the campaign trail. it's getting crowded on there. you can always follow us on twitter. tweet me or the show. thanks for watching. "aaron burn "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. outfront tonight, breaking news the boston terror suspect plotted to behead a prominent person in new york. that person is my guest tonight. also breaking, the d.c. mansion murders with his story falling apart the focus is now turning to the victim's assistant. and the american woman tragically mauled to death by a lion. her longtime friend is my exclusive guest. let's go "outfront." and good evening to all. aim erin burnett. i want to begin "outfront" with

the breaking news. we are learning at this hour that the boston terror suspect shot and killed by police had plotted to behead a prominent private citizen in new york, someone who had been the target of terror plots before. we can tell you at this hour now the person's name. that person is pamela geller who most recently organized the prophet muhammad cartoon contest in texas which ended in a deadly shootout. the suspect rahim changed his mind and instead decided to target police. pamela geller is my guest in a moment. first i want to tell you everything we know about the story which is developing so quickly and so incredibly late tonight. in court today a secretary suspect in rahim's terror ring naimd david wright, you see the sketch there, was charged with conspiracy and attempt to cover up details of the plain. rahim had brought three military style knifes from amazon that would be good for quote unquote

carving sculptures. we know rahim was shot and killed by police while he was holding the knife that you see on your screen right there. that is the knife. pamela brown is in boston tonight beginning our coverage. pamela, you just broke the news about pamela geller as the target for a beheading. what can you tell us? >> reporter: well we've learned from law enforcement officials that rahim, david wright who was arrested and appear nd court today and a third person met on a beach in rhode island in late may and discussed their plan to allegedly go to new york and behead the controversial figure pamela geller. she organized the prophet muhammad cartoon contest in garland, texas, where there was an attempted terrorist attack. we've learned from officials that rahim changed his mind apparently and yesterday morning called david wright and said he wanted to target police officers. tonight newly released court documents allege boston terror

suspect rahim was about to go on a rampage to randomly kill police officers and also planning to behead someone in another state. these were plots rahim and a second suspect arrested yesterday, david wright were planning. an fbi recorded phone call between rahim and wright lays out their plan to kill police officers using code words. you're attempting to go on a vacation i see. yeah, i'm going to be on vacation right here in massachusetts. the fbi says wright confirmed the attack was to take place yesterday or today. last wednesday rahim allegedly had a large black knife delivered to his home. he brags to wright he got himself a nice little tool good for carving wood and like. they also separately planned to behead a victim in another state using words such as like thinking with your head on your chest. law enforcement officials believe that is a direct reference to terrorist beheading videos. authorities have monitored rahim for over two years and believe he was radicalized by isis. the fbi recently put him under 24/7 surveillance. >> this guy required 24/7

surveillance so we thought the threat was severe enough that we had to approach him. we never expected what happened. >> reporter: with this information and a recent change of rahim's behavior, officers and fbi agents approach rahim. he suddenly turned around with a large black knife and lunged at them authorities say. police ordered him to drop the weapon before officers opened fire killing him. wright appeared in federal court today to face conspiracy charges. his neighbor told me this. >> the no thatmonth that we have been here every time we said hi he just would look at you. he just would not say anything to you. it's just very eerie. >> reporter: and we have learned that the fbi is still investigating that third individual who allegedly was part of this beheading plot. but so far, we're told that no other arrests have been made. this investigation still very active. erin? >> pamela thank you very much. and pamela geller the target of that planned attack, that planned beheading, joins me now on the phone, the president of

the american freedom defense nishltive and stop islamization of america. pamela, look thank you very much for coming on here and talking about this for the first time. cnn's reporting you were the beheading target. what's your reaction to that? >> well, they targeted me for violating sharia blasphemy laws. they mean to kill everyone who doesn't do their bidding and abide by their law voluntarily. this is a showdown for american freedom. will we stand against this savagery or bow down to them and silence ourselves? it won't end with me no matter what happens to me or the cops. this is just the beginning. the one thing that's being ignored that came out of garland, texas, is that isis is here. islamic terrorism is here. now, will the media realize what's at stake and that their heads are next? or will they continue to target me because they hate my message of freedom? that's the question. >> so pamela do you have extra

security at this time? obviously the prophet muhammad cartoon contest in texas, obviously people died. there was a gun fight. do you have extra security. >> do you think they'll target you again? >> a couple of corrections. a couple of people didn't die. the jihadists who came to slaughter people were taken out as they shot at our police. that's the first thing. the second thing it was an art exhibit depicting mohammed through the past 1400 years where he's been rendered in various pieces of artwork. it didn't lead to slaughter. it's obviously being used now, modern jihadism is using these blast fa my laws and this violent intimidation to impose the sharia. yes, of course, the answer to your question is since garland, texas, i've had an army of security. this is what is required just to show a cartoon in america 2015.

it's striking. it's devastating. and people need to understand what's at stake. i mean if we surrender on this point then what will we surrender next? >> so pamela, you're talking about how you do have in your words an army of security now. on that draw muhammad cartoon event in texas, obviously some people see it very differently than you see it, right? you see it as an art event. they see it as showing pictures of the prophet muhammad who should not be drawn. you know you obviously have done other things. you remember the ads on the new york city subways. you took the transit authority to court, you won. you were able to post ads which include words like this in any war between the civilized man and savage support the civilized man. support israel. defeat jihad. are you surprised that there are some who would want to target you for words like that? >> i'm surprised that the media would side with those that would target me. of course i'm not surprised they would target me. this is a war and they seek to

impose the sharia. the ads that i've done across the country were in response to vicious anti-israel, anti-semitic ads already running. and my question to you is do we not want to defeat jihad? i mean what is wrong with those ads? there is nothing wrong with the cartoon. there is nothing about the cartoon that incites violence. it is within the established american tradition of satire. and if america surrenders on this point, the freedom of speech is a relic of history. >> now, you know, the law center has described your group as what they saw, quote, is an active anti-muslim group. they track hate groups in this country. they describe you as, quote, the anti-muslim movement's most visible and flamboyant figurehead. again they track hate groups. they're putting you on that list. nothing justifies a beheading or a beheading plot. but it's important to note this. i mean are you stoking the flames? do you on some level relish

being the target of these attacks? >> relish being the target? who self-promotes to get killed? that's the first thing. the second thing is the seven poverty law center? really, erin? since when? who designated them the arbiter of anything? they're an uberleft group. they don't track jihadist groups, groups that target the slaughter. they track patriots. they track veterans. they track defense groups like myself. and their members have actually targeted and tried to slaughter family groups and leaders like tony perkins family groups. and even the shooter in north carolina who shot three muslims over a parking dispute was a member of the southern poverty law center. that's who you're using against me? why don't we talk bh the accomplishments and the accolades that my group got? why do you use the southern poverty law center a notorious communist group to smear me?

i'm the hunted one. i'm the hunted one. this is incredible to me. >> as i said i think nothing justifies a beheading but i do think the question was a fair one. pamela, i appreciate you very much taking the time to call in and talk to us tonight. i want to bring in deborah feyerick. you just heard what pamela had to say. look she has an incredibly strong point of view as they describe her. she's a flamboyant figurehead for the anti-muslim movement. what's your view in terms of her saying the southern poverty law center doesn't track the other groups? >> i've done a number of pieces on pamela geller. she was at the heart of the movement to stop building a mosque down at ground zero. >> yes, very well known for that. >> very vocal in terms of that even though there was a mosque nearby when the towers fell. so people were simply replacing it. arguably critics will say it's not free speech. it's hate speech and hate begets hate. so the fact that she was a target or potentially a target of this individual, that's

exactly what happened in garland, texas. they saw what she was doing as inflammatory, as inciting. but the southern poverty law center, they track a whole bevy of groups and they track hate groups. and she has also been linked to supremacists, white supremacists. she is not above the criticism that is being leveled at her because of her own affiliations. so even if the southern poverty law center is a left leaning group, the scale goes the other way. >> and what more are you learning about this beedheading plot? >> this is also very interesting. we know rahim who was shot and killed had a 15-inch knife. that he bought from amazon.com. the fbi was able to intercept that package. they x-rayed it found the knife inside and then they had that very knife delivered to rahim. couple days later he buys two more knives also on amazon.com

and those knives he received and he was planning on going to new york we believe to kill this prominent individual. he changed his plan because he said the easier target to him was the men in blue, the police. we have seen many warnings that police, military, law enforcement are all targets. but right now what we do know is that he had three extremely large knives on him and there's no indication from authorities that he had other types of weapons. we could learn that de, but right now it's really the knives that were the weapon of choice. completely modeling the isis pattern. how are you going to create fear? you're going to go after the disbelievers and you're going to use big knifes to do it. these are the same people who think it's okay to rape women. they're also going to use the savagery of cutting somebody's head off. >> absolutely horrific. nothing justifies that. thank you so much deborah. next a race against time. rescue workers are drilling a hole into that ship desperately trying to find survivors in

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we're still within the window of finding survivors. we've seen rescuers with their ears pressed up to the hull of the ship trying to listen for passengers tapping or calling for he help. they have heard that in prior hours. ivan watson is "outfront" tonight in china. >> reporter: a ray of hope. rescue workers drilling through the hull of the capsized cruise ship as the search for survivors continues. this is the eastern star cruising down the river just minutes before the ship carrying more than 450 passengers and crew ran into a violent storm. survivors describe rain pounding the ship with such force that water seeped into cabins. one man said he only had 30 seconds to grab a life vest and get out. today there's increasing anger from some family members, frustrated over a lack of answers from officials. these families walk for more than four hours coming just a

few hundred yards from the river before a line of police block their path. but there is reason to hope more survivors will be found aboard the ship that capsized nearly 60 hours ago. two years ago, a cook on board a capsized nigerian tug boat survived 60 hours before his rescue. his lifeline, a small pocket of air. >> just reassure him, give him a thumbs-up and reassure him. >> reporter: the eastern star's captain was pulled from the water downstream from the wreck, according to one chinese newspaper. he and the first engineer are in custody. so far no charges have been filed against them. but after the costa concordia ran aground off the coast ofity lit in 2012 killing 32 the captain of that ship also survived, ultimately convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to 16 years in prison. chinese social media is comparing the wreck of the

eastern star to a south korean vessel that sank last year killing more than 300 people many of them high school students. again, the captain survived. video showed him leaping to safety as hundreds remained trapped on board. he has since been indicted for murder. but in both the italian and south korean cases, bad weather was not a factor. >> ivan what are families saying about the progress of the search effort? obviously you know we know that this is in deep water. we know that there could be major air pockets. we know we're within the window they could find survivors. there's nearly 400 people there. they can't be satisfied with the way things are going. >> reporter: erin we met families that were furious. dozens of relatives who either their parents were on board this boat or their spouses, and they paid their own way traveling for ten hours on a bus and then when we encountered them, they were

confronting a local government official, calling him a liar to his face. then we saw this incredible scene filing off the bus and started marching out of town asking locals which way to the river. and we followed them for more than four hours through this police checkpoint right here where there are a wall of police officers. it was before midnight. and the relatives, they just broke through and they were yelling how would you feel if it was your parents on board that boat? these people were so desperate, so upset that they were determined to get as close as possible to the wreck to see with their own eyes the search and rescue operations, and many of them were very critical of the government and its efforts thus far. >> thank you very much ivan. live in china. i want to go right now to captain james staep els, a retired merchant marine kamt, very familiar with the river

where the cruise ship is under water. captain, they're using the blow torches trying to cut through the hull. obviously they're doing this as a point of desperation. they know they could cause pressure issues but they're trying to do anything they can. what are the dangers of cutting a hull open like this? >> well erin i see two dangers immediately. one if they cut into a tank or some type of ballast tank or fuel tank we always have the possibility of an explosion or a fire. so they've got to be very positive of where they're actually cutting into on this vessel. you just can't start cutting steel because you hear noise because noise comes from different areas of the ship. we need to be very careful of that. then we fwheed to be careful of purging that area of the air and having the hole get filled up with water to where the buncy of the ship is going to be less than what it is now and possibly causing the vessel to sink deeper. >> i mean what is your honest assessment of the situation here though? again, we're talking about

nearly 400 people. there have only been 14 survivors we've confirmed here at cnn. nearly 400 people on that ship. we don't know if there are a few alive, many alive. we don't know. we do know that after the ship sank, when they were tapping on the hull, there were responses. there are people alive in that ship. are they going to be able to rescue any of them? >> well again, we've got to look at the clientele on board. we're looking at people between 50 to 80 years old so they weren't moving very quickly to get to any place that they could have been saved. it would only probably be the people in the lower portion of the vessel the engineering department most likely down there that was working in the engine room. unfortunately it sounds like most people were in their cabins probably at the time. when the vessel went around so quickly they were probably flung to the overhead and they had no way to get out. they probably lost all the lights and different things like that, with tables floating and bottles moving around. you know we don't ever want to give up hope that there's still some survivors, but grave is the

word. this is a grave, grave situation. >> well, among those 14 survivors are the captain and the chief engineer. now, we've seen this in recentdisasters, right, the costa concordia, the ship in south korea the captains survive. in a couple of cases, facing life in prison. very serious things. we know they're being questioned, but they say the ship was hit by a tornado and it flipped almost immediately. when you look at the pictures of the ship before the accident, you're except cal that's what happened. why? >> i'm skeptical it might have been a tornado. i think it might have been what we call a microburst. there were several, several thunderstorms in the area so i think possibly he might have had a microburst that happened and possibly maybe a tornado. but, you know, for a tornado to come up that quickly like that, it seems more probable that it was a microburst is what i would say. >> i appreciate your time very

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breaking news. investigators zeroing in on the victim's assistant in the quadruple d.c. mansion murders. officials looking at cell phone records of the man who was savvas savopoulos' assistant. tonight we can identify him for the first time jordan wallace. wallace had previously lied to police about his actions on the day of the murders. now, savvas savopoulos along with his wife 10-year-old son and housekeeper were murdered inside their home. joe johns is "outfront". >> reporter: for the first time tonight police are identifying savvas savopoulos' assistant as jordan wallace who was hired in recent months as a driver for

mr. savopoulos. newly released court documents suggest investigators continue to be interested in wallace, who allegedly dropped off $40,000 in cash just hours before the family was killed and their home set on fire. police say after wallace changed details of his story surrounding the drop-off of that money they got a court order to retrieve his telephone records. also in the documents, police seem to lay out how they believe the crime that ended with this fire began with a break-in at the savopoulos home. they're saying whoever held the family hostage before shaking them down for money may not have been invited in. documents say side doors had, quote, a single broken windowpane. the door is broken near the lock and a shoe or boot print is visible on the exterior, suggesting forced entry. tonight police are still holding 34-year-old daron wint who was arrested two weeks ago while apparently on the run. court records say in addition to

wint's dna found on pizza crust at the scene, they found the blood of at least one of the victims on wint's shoe. wint remains the lone suspect, but police say they believe he had help. >> i'm sure that the police although they're tight-lipped, have some other suspects involved that they believe are involved in this case, and they are trying to track information down to link them to wint. that's why it's probably taking some time. >> reporter: investigators also got court orders to retrieve the phone records of mr. and mrs. mrs. savopoulos and of the housekeeper vera figueroa all of which police say have not been uncovered. still unclear who police believe may have helped to commit these crimes. >> now outfront, paul, police are zeroing in on a new person. this is a significant development today, victim's assistant jord wallace joe was just telling us about him. they say he lied about when and how he was told how to get the money, lied about where the money was, was it in an

envelope, where was it. and then he lied about the victim's car being locked. why would you lie about anything in this case? that's the question here. >> i'm sure police are saying if you are lying, it's an indication of a consciousness of guilt. obviously if he was making something up and trying to change the way the money was gathered, very, very important fact. you know the money ultimately is ransom money which may be traceable and if it turns up in his hands or somebody else's hands it would be devastating evidence. >> according to the documents, jordan wallace the assistant didn't just get the money himself. he actually got the money from savopoulos savopoulos' accountant, another person who seemingly got a request for $40,000 in cash handzed it over, no questions asked, didn't call the police, say anything. either savopoulos asked for this kind of thing all the time or this is another person why didn't they raise a red flag? >> there's a third possibility that might make him innocent. it could in fact be that he the

accountant thought that his boss was being held and was going to be killed if the police were contacted. >> ah, okay. >> for that reason it's possible that he would have done this. but we have to see if he's changed his story. see, wallace is different because he's changed his story. why could would you change your story? that suggests consciousness of guilt possibly. >> and we are talking, of course, about the fact that lawrence, the police are saying there were other people involved other than daron wint, right? that's why they're focusing in on the assistant, on others as well. we just learned late today that blood from one of the victims was on the prime suspect daron wint's shoe. on his shoe a week after the murders. so can i just ask you, how surprised are you to hear that that the blood would still be on the shoe? >> not at all. in the commission of a bloody crime like this you're going to leave trace evidence. you're going to pick up trace evidence. >> and you can pick it up a week later? >> we can pick up a blood stain that you can't even see with the naked eye. that's the sensitivity of the testing. to do dna will analysis to tell

whose blood it is all you need is 15 cells of dna. that's something you can't even see with the naked eye. >> 15 cells. that's all you need. >> that's all you need. or we could be dealing with stains that you can't even see with the naked eye. >> even if he thought he washed his shoe off or something like that in clorox. >> clorox is another story. that could actually do some damage to dna. but the bottom line is criminals don't realize that we've got a lot of skills and technique that's we can apply to a situation like this. >> so they keep say tlg were accomplices, right, but they haven't arrested others. now, they're honing in on this assistant as one person as we were talking about with paul. they say there were other people in the house with daron wint. my question with you is, why don't they have the dna to arrest anyone? you'd think at this point they'd have a lot of dna manufacture well the evidence collection team, just from experience they have to know what to collect chblt chblt. remember, there was an arson. a lot of dna evidence could have been destroyed. certainly if you have anything

a glass that somebody may have had fluid from drank out of, there is dna there. so there may very well be some dna profiles, partial profiles not enough information to actually make an arrest. but perhaps they are investigating other people based on what they found in the house. we don't know. >> there are two parts of the dna. >> daron wint's dna was in the system because he was charged with someone else. >> right. zraing straing d paul they're also hunting for the victims' cell phones they're all missing, the housekeeper and mother and father. we presume those are the three cell phones they have. how crucial is finding them be? if they're missing that means somebody hid them on purpose. >> absolutely. they make specific reference to the wife's amy's cell phone, saying that that one because that got some critical text messages concerning the ransom money. so if they know the cell towers from which those messages were broadcast, it's going to give a

geographical hipt as to where the suspects are. >> could be very significant. they say there's other people involved and as of yit no arrests. but the big news they're looking very carefully at that assistant. thanks so much to both of you. outfront next more breaking news on baltimore. crime there so bad police today are desperately calling for help from the feds. we'll tell you exactly what they're saying is on baltimore city streets tonight. it's shocking. and a tragic twist in this story. the woman mauled to death by a lion. she was in africa to fight against big game poaching. my guest tonight, someone who knew her and her passions very well a longtime friend. using wellness to keep away illness... and believing that a single life can be made better by millions of others. healthier takes somebody who can power modern health care... by connecting every single part of it. for as the world keeps on searching for healthier... we're here to make healthier happen.

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. breaking news. baltimore police begging for help a city in chaos with crime at record highs pleading for federal intervention tonight. the police commissioner from baltimore late today comes out with this damning admission. >> there's enough narcotics on the streets of baltimore to keep it intoxicated for a year. >> miguel marquez is "outfront."

murders surging nearly 50%, drugs everywhere you heard the police kmiegser. what else did he say? >> in connection to what he talked about in the press conference and what we just heard him say, that's what he says is from pharmacies that were looted during the rioting after the death of freddie gray. 27 pharmacies, hundreds of businesses were looted and there's enough prescription drugs out there causing some of this violence. what baltimore police are not saying is why they believe the prescription drugs are causing the violence. do they get more money on the street? are they somehow being fought over more than other drugs? the big concern i think is the gangs and the street level violence, those already existing open air drug markets in baltimore where they weren't in business during the rioting and the worst of it. and for some time after that because there were so many police on the street. and that seems to be the main driver of the violence here, erin. >> miguel the police union says the freddie gray case has made

police in baltimore afraid to do their job fear of their own safety being called racist. now a police commissioner asking for federal government intervention. how unprecedented is it? >> it's happened before in specific cases, even in baltimore it's happened before. but the question is what exactly he wants these extra forces to do. does he want them to investigate? baltimore needs police on the ground. many police officers telng us they're doubling up tripling up, just responding to 911 calls and that's shrinking the number of police and the ability for them to punch into these neighborhoods and provide any force there. so it is not clear what this plan is other than an all-out call for help from everybody and anybody. one thing that was interesting about that press conference today, the slew of federal and law enforcement officials there nobody from the mayor's office and nobody from the baltimore state's attorney's office, two of the main movers in that city.

not there at the chief's big press conference. erin. >> miguel thank you. obviously that's a very significant part of this as well. next we are learning much more tonight about the american woman mauled to death by a lion. "outfront" tonight, her longtime friend. and jeanne moos, the rescue of a french skier. this is a video you'll have to see for yourself.

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africa. her family said she loved animals an hired an independent guide to take her on a tour of the lion park outside of johannesburg where they advertise super close-up views guaranteed. according to the tour company, their windows were closed but chappelle had a camera and of her own accord rolled down the passenger window in order to take photographs, even though it was widely posted notice keep windows closed at all times. >> a lion approached from the left of the car, which is the passenger side here in south africa. the lion walked to within about a meter of the car and sort of laid down and was watching them. and from what the witnesses say, it then lunged at the car. >> reporter: other visitors started honking, but it was too late. >> it bit the lady and the man who was sitting in the driver's seat then tried to sort of fight the lion off. he punched it and tried to get it away. >> reporter: the tour company says the 66-year-old guide suffered serious injuries to his arm, and when the lion retreated

he saw that the tourist had sustained extremely serious injuries. she was bleeding profusely from her neck. he tried his best to stop the bleeding and save her life. but even with ambulances rushing to the scene, chappelle couldn't be saved and was pronounced dead. chappelle from rye, new york graduated from hofstra university on long island in 2008. her young career was just taking off with visual effects credits for "captain america "oif "godzilla," and the television series "game of thrones." >> it's just a shame. she had a great career. if you're on vacation you should be able to enjoy life. >> reporter: family members describe katie as a brilliant, kind adventurous and high-spirited woman. her energy and passion could not be contained by mere continents or oceans. >> jean she was obviously so passionate. i know there were dispute about how many windows were down in the suv.

was it just katherine's or more? >> when you enter the reserve they give you a flyer, notice do not roll down your window. a source close to what happened says that the flyer was found to the right of her passenger's seat. and witnesses there say that all the windows, the passenger and the driver who was the independent tour operator his window was down, too. >> he would have known. >> emphasis onhe as you saw in the story said the windows were up and she on her own rolled the window down. it's a minor issue because it's her we care about and a life lost but it makes it even sadder. >> oh it sure does. especially given that she was there to try to build awareness for these big cats. thank you so much jean. i want to bring in jeff yong a longtime friend of katherine's. the two of them spoke just weeks ago. jeff look, this is horrible. i'm so sorry for you and for your friends to lose your friend. you had spoken to her just before she went on this trip. what did she say? >> i mean she is just a

beautiful person in general, and she was always excited to talk about anything that she was involved with whether it was work related or personal life. i spoke to her a few weeks prior to her leave for her trip. she was telling me how excited she was to be able to actually get to take on such a momentous task kind of on her own. she was paying everything out of her own pocket and willing to donate the money to charity . instagram worthy type event in her life turned out to end up taking it. it is still jarring and shocking

cited to be on to take photos an get up close and personal and to show people the same passion she had through photographs. it is unfortunate that it happened so quick she didn't get a chance to experience all she wanted to. >> what do you think happened? the window would have been open? she was just so passionate she just wanted that perfect shot the window had dirt on it just something like that? >> unfortunately, coming from filmmaker and story maker background as well sometimes we have to go above and beyond to get particular shots that we are looking for and the great moment you are hoping to capture everything you are hoping for and sometimes safety is secondary and keeping the window open. i was not there to say what happened but she did it within safe reason to get the photo not realizing how the animal would react at the last minute.

but it is the would have should have could have and it is unfortunate that is how she passed. >> it is only 29 years old when she died. what would you want people to know about her. you've known her for ten years. >> yeah about. she enjoyed laughing. and she enjoyed partying as much as she enjoyed working and she enjoyed a cause play event or tripping to johannesberg to be part of a event or even little things abeing a friend -- fond of sci-fi and anime and she had a lot of people she touched and worked with and people that have seen stuff she's taken photos of or written off online -- she'll be sorely missed and she had a lot to offer. and forget to say it to a lot of

people be happy and open with the friends you have and all of the things they do because they touch your lives in different ways even if it is on a minor scale and she is one that wants to touch others always. >> thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. >> and jeanne moos when a skier and a thousand pound georgean bull have in common.

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it is true that the bigger they are the harder they fall. here is jeanne moos with the story of two rescues. >> this is a tale of two

rescues. man and beast. first the man, a frenchman wearing a helmet cam. he was skiing behind his friends in the swiss alps when the snow swallowed him up. benjamin spill horn fell once and then once again. into a crevice. >> i fill into a dark hole and i was very scared. >> he started yelling help in french but once he was able to secure himself from falling further using an ice screw, he calmed down. his fingers were too cold to use them to whistle properly. less than 20 minutes after he fell in i heard what turned out to be another group of skewers near the crevice. can you hear me?

i'm here. they did. and down came a rope. which brings us to another rope. another rescue. while benjamin used his rope to climb out, the bull on the end of this rope resisted. a half ton pit bull named boy well into an old well overnight in fulton county georgia. they built a ramp so he could walk out but he refused. >> he thinks he's at the hilton because he brought him water and food and he's laying there. >> and one reaching for the hand of a swiss guide to help him out. >> what is the first thing you said? >> thank you, thank you very much. >> benjamin was choppered out uninjured, while a newschopper hovered above boy the bull after being in the well ten hours, a large animal rescue team hoisted him out with a crane and this tale of two rescues, the one with the tale seems -- tail seems a lot less

grateful. jeanne moos cnn, new york. >> thank you so much for joining us. set your dvr to report "outfront" and watch us any time. i'll see you back here same time same place tomorrow. ac360 with anderson cooper begins right now. >> a story that has not stopped producing new and surprising developments after the shooting of a suspect armed with a combat knife outside of a cvs. first we learned he was under surveillance by the terrorism task force and then armed and then that he had an accomplice and that he was plotting to akill local police officers and that he planned to behead a new yorker activist pamela geller and that is far from the only development tonight. and two reports tonight starting with alexandra