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this. hail. fell in the denver area. people had to bust out the snow shovels to clear the driveways and the streets. knee deep in hailstones. i am going to remind you, it is june elsewhere in colorado two separate tornadoes touching down last night, one in larry mer, the other in albert. several homes badly damaged. no injuries to report. wow. again, it's june. it's also friday. thanks for watching. "wolf" starts now. i'm wolf blitzer, it's 1:00 a.m. friday in -- actually saturday in beijing. wherever you're watching around the world, thanks very much for joining us. we start with a massive cyber attack on the u.s. federal government. hackers broke into the computer system at the office of personnel management giving them access to the personnel records of more than 4 million americans current and former federal employees.
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the fbi is investigating the hack which was uncovered during a security upgrade on that same computer system. our justice reporter evan perez is here with me. what kind of information may have been compromised? how serious is this cyber attack? >> wolf this is the mother of all cyber attacks here in the united states. we're talking about things that are sensitive enough that it would be of high value to a foreign intelligence service, things like security clearance information, that is stored in the office of personnel management computer systems and we're told that, you know this affects as you said 4 million former and current workers of the federal government and the concern here is that it goes -- this goes beyond the office of personnel management that every single -- pretty much every single federal agency was attacked in this hack and that it is the same hackers who are behind a couple other hacks that we've seen recently cyber attacks against anthem which is
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a major health insurance company, the concern among intelligence and law enforcement officials is that the chinese are building some kind of massive data base of americans for the use of their intelligence and other purposes. >> u.s. officials and you've reported this pointing the finger at the government of china right now, not just chinese hackers but specifically the government in beijing. they issued a statement earlier this morning saying it's irresponsible and unscientific to make conjek turl trumped up allegations without deep investigation. what do you make of that response some. >> a little different from previous statements we've gotten. i regularly call and contact the chinese embassy for comments on attack -- on cyber attacks and they usually just flatly deny that. this one is very different because it simply says how can you know so quickly. so what's at work here we're told is that the u.s. government was able to identify
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through the malicious software used to penetrate the computers they were able to trace it back directly to china some of the stuff they've seen in other hacks. they were able to match that up. they believe they know exactly where it came from. >> thanks very much for that. we're also learning that nsa, the national security agency privately increased surveillance powers over the internet over the past few years. the "new york times" reporting that new directives give the agency more power to monitor internet traffic both in and out of the united states that they believe could be linked to foreign hacker attacks. the obama administration approved the move as part of the nsa's warrantless surveillance program. the revelations came from documents row leased by edward snowden. joining us now from new york is jane a former deputy secretary for the department of homeland security currently president of the council on cyber security. jane thanks very much for joining us. let me quickly get your thoughts on this "new york times"
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revelation about internet surveillance designed to protect the u.s. from cyber attacks. you were at homeland security the homeland security department presumably when this started and was under way. what can you tell us about this program? >> what i can tell you is that the purpose of homeland security is to help create a safe secure resilient place where the american way of life can thrive part of that includes certainly preventing another 9/11 securing borders, enforcing immigration laws building national resilience in the face of disasters and ensure cyber security for the nation's critical infrastructure. there are long-standing laws and treaties regarding telecommunications that every government conforms to and every government has a right to protect its networks and systems. >> so are you concerned that this latest revelation could reinforce this notion that the u.s. is undermining privacy privileges of the american people, for example? >> i am far less concerned about that wolf than what the breach at opm tells us about the
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extensiveness of our vulnerability, that people really have not woken up to yet. no one is immune from the attacks we've seen. not a single enterprise in our market today, globally around the world, that delivers value without relying on i.t. and access to the internet. everyone's vulnerable and not with standing that vulnerability a lot more we could be doing to reduce our exposure and vulnerabilities. >> opm the office of personnel management which monitors all the agencies departments of the federal government. you believe china is directly responsible for this hack? >> we get asked all the time. i am not privy to the investigation or information going on. frankly i'm far less interested at this moment in who has done this than in how, what happened and how they were able to do it. and how we can close that vulnerability if it exists. we've got states eunice palties -- municipalities and
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cities that hold the same kind of data that we see held in the federal government across all agencies. the government has a program through homeland security u.s. is very helpful here in extending the systems like einstein that was -- that has facilitated the identification of the malware that targeted the office of personnel management and those programs for the states and municipalities have to continue. that's something we're interested in. understanding what happened and how it happened. >> the ranking democrat on the house intelligence committee congressman adam schiff tweeted this he said it's shocking because americans may expect that federal computer networks are maintained with state-of-the-art defenses. how vulnerable are these federal computer systems with some of the most sensitive information out there? >> we're all enormously vulnerable not just federal networks and systems but state and local municipalities private sector institutions as well. as lot of us have been working
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for a long time to reduce that vulnerability vulnerability. there are three -- in my view only three interesting questions when it comes to cyber security. an awful lot of wand waving but three questions to get to the heart of the challenge we face. question one, how do we architect systems we can trust from components we can't. question number two, how do we ensure the integrity as well as the privacy of our information and our identity in an open internet and question number three, what will the role of government be? government can't do all it needs to and we need to step up our game on hygiene and really attract and retain folks to do the upper end, the high echelon cyber security hunting that allows us to detect this malware and get after it before it does much damage. >> jane is the former deputy secretary of homeland security. jane thanks very much for joining us. >> pleasure. thanks. >> just ahead, water becoming a scarce commodity in
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pro-government towns as isis remains in control of a dam. we'll get the latest. john mccain says 75% of the air strike missions that the u.s. and its coalition partners are undertaking against isis right now, return without ever firing a weapon. how effective is this air war against isis? we're going to talk to the u.s. air force chief of staff stand big to join us live this hour.
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light. liberty mutual insurance. isis forces in ramadi remain in control of a dam on the euphrates river seized a few days ago by opening only two or three of the dam's 26 gates for brief periods daily. they continue to cut off water supplies to pro-government towns
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downstream. let's go to our senior international correspondent nick paton walsh joining us live from baghdad. what's the latest on the situation involving this dam? because the folks out there including the sunnis obviously need the water? >> wolf i can't tell you how punishingly awfully hot it is in the anbar desert this time of year. what we are hearing from the local security source is that number of people coming to an area to the south of there, fleeing that particular area where the water is said to be lowering is doubling and the water level in that river is lowering as well. let me explain the geography here. ramadi has a dam on the outskirts. below that downstream are thousands of civilians living off three towns there. that's where the counter attack of pro-government forces aimed at ramadi is gathering. fallujah also held by isis. isis seems to be letting a bit
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of water out so it can head down to fallujah and service the people there. drought, agriculture, basic daily life being punished between the two isis held towns and one of the fears if that water level drops fast enough and it seems to be happening pretty quick, then it deprives pro-government forces defending the river bank a natural moat between them and isis and could make isis' job of attacking them easier. this one use of water as a weapon seems to be undermining what the government have long been talking about for weeks now as their bid to liberate anbar of isis. wolf? >> nick paton walsh, be careful over there, thanks very much. an isis mistake apparently turned into a game for the united states air force. airmen in florida were combing through social media posts by the insurgent group when they discovered a picture of an isis fighter standing at his command post. they found comments in an open forum bragging about command and control capabilities. the commander of air combat
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command said the airmen were able to pinpoint the location of the headquarters and destroy it less than a day later. the u.s. air force has taken the lead in the fight against the islamic state conducting air strikes over iraq and syria for nearly a year. the department of defense reports u.s. and coalition forces launched 17 air strikes against isis targets in syria and iraq wednesday into thursday. i'm joined now by general mark welsh, the chief of staff of the u.s. air force, also a military adviser to the secretary of defense national security council and the president of the united states. general, thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks wolf. >> what can you tell us about using social media to find a potential target then launching an air strike to go after that target? >> i think it's -- it would be safe to assume we're using everything we can to find potential targets. everything that they do is something potentially we can exploit. i hope they're thinking about that. >> can you confirm this report
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that is what happened? >> i saw this report but don't know anything beyond the details that general carlisle related. >> how is the air war going? you're in charge of the air force. we heard the deputy secretary of state say the other day in paris at the coalition meeting that 10,000 isis fighters have been killed in these air strikes. others say even more 13,000. what's your information? >> well i think i would relate myself to a member of john kirby's comments a while ago -- >> he was the pentagon spokesman. >> who said that the numbers really are kind of irrelevant and we are not tracking that specifically so i think the key is what are they able to do on the ground what are we able to keep them from doing on the ground how are we able to over time. >> why are the numbers irrelevant? if blinkette is right and 10,000 isis fighters have been killed they may have 20,000 or 30,000 that's a huge percentage of their war capability? >> yes, sir, but as you saw in your -- in the report from iraq they're still influencing things
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on the ground. they were still able to move into ramadi threatening to use water as a weapon. until we can stop all activity this will not be successful. >> basically what you're saying is when he comes up with that number as someone, you know, old enough to remember the body counts during the vietnam war, how do you come up with a number like 10,000 13,000 whatever it is and there was one report only two civilians were killed in all those air strikes which as you well know and chief of staff of the u.s. air force, when you launch a strike there's always going to be what they call collateral damage. >> hopefully not always. >> but usually there's a possibility. >> we work hard to avoid it no matter how precise a weapon is when 250 or 500 pounds of tnt hit the ground it's not that precise. we take care to avoid dropping it in the vicinity where people who are not combatants are injured. i don't know where the number came from. >> that's a number thrown out but generated buzz. john mccain, the chairman of the senate armed services committee,
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repeatedly points out that these u.s. air strikes over nearly a year now, that 75% of the u.s. war planes go out there, and they come back without dropping their ord nantz because they don't -- >> right. we only drop as you've been seeing and reporting, 15 to 25 targets a day, fly about 125 sordes per day. u.s. air force flies about 80 or so and we're dropping about 75% of the weapons that are dropped in iraq and syria. >> the u.s. is dropping 75% -- >> the u.s. air force is flying about 70, 75% of the sordes and senator mccain's numbers are accurate but the intent is not to go after everything possible it's to go after targets we can verify eliminate collateral damage. >> there's a difference and i want our viewers to appreciate that between a soredy and air strike. >> absolutely. >> explain the difference. >> a soredy is an airplane that flies in the air space over the battle space, it could be a air
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refueling sore de intelligence collecting soredy or collection soredy and if the strike presents itself it will occur. >> the soredy if there's no capability of launching a strike they come back and they'll do it another day if they have a good target. >> or no way to guarantee a minimal collateral damage. >> mike innocent civilians. >> you watch that closely. you don't have the forward spotters that mccain, lindsey graham and others talk about which would give you more precise information on these kinds of strikes, right? >> the biggest advantage to having people on the ground whether j tech soldiers special operators you know where your friendly forces are versus the enemy forces. that is one of the biggest advantages for people in the area. from the air it's easy to spot targets. when you get urban terrain it's hard to differentiate between good and bad guys and hard to tell who else is in a building. >> you're relying on friendly iraqis to tell you where the enemy guys the isis forces are,
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is that right? >> not in every case but we are working very hard to work with the iraqi government government forces to try to make sure that they help us identify the right targets to engage. >> stay with us. more to discuss. important conversation right now. when we return we'll also talk about the case of mers on the u.s. air base in south korea. that and more coming up with general welsh when we come back. the pursuit of healthier. it begins from the second we're born. after all, healthier doesn't happen all by itself. it needs to be earned... every day... using wellness to keep away illness... and believing that a single life can be made better by millions of others. healthier takes somebody who can power modern health care... by connecting every single part of it. for as the world keeps on searching for healthier... we're here to make healthier happen. optum. healthier is here.
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we're continuing our conversation with general mark welsh, the chief of staff at the u.s. air force, also very important military adviser to the secretary of defense, national security council, and
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the president. what do you make of the allegation that china has now hacked into the office of personnel management stealing information, sensitive information, about 4 million americans' federal employees and various agencies i assume the department of defense as well. this is a pretty outrageous development, very serious. >> wouldn't be the first thing they've hacked and probably won't be the last which kind of highlights the importance of this cyber security cyber defense, the effort that the nation needs to be collectively engaged in. >> how worried are you the u.s. air force could be hacked? >> we're worried about it every day. >> has there been evidence it has been hacked. >> it has happened and there is attempts daily, millions of attempts. >> by governments, by individuals? >> yes. >> all of the above. >> all the above. >> china a main culprit, russia north korea? >> all have been involved over time and other organizations and there's other people. individuals who have been involved in doing this. >> what does a government like
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china, 4 million -- information on 4 million federal employees what do they do with that? >> i have no idea but when they downloaded the library of congress size files a few years back i hope they read them and can give us the summary. they look at things exploitable for the future. that's the concern we ought to have. >> let's go through a few other issues i can tet your reaction to. this report that in south korea at an air base in south korea, u.s. base in south korea, a korean air force member has tested positive for mers. this is the middle east respiratory system virus. >> i know he's receiving the proper treatment, no longer on the installation and no symptoms indicated by anybody else. >> any indication u.s. air force personnel are in danger. >> no, sir. >> not taking special precautions? >> they've done medical screening but no indication there's a wider problem. >> that's good to know.
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the notion of the u.s. air force, do you guys leading the air war against isis do you have everything you need? you go to congress what else do you need in order to maintain this kind of operation? >> well i think the congress have been supportive in giving us the funding to continue this operation. over time what we need is to modernize our air force. we have to be ready to do this and much more significant militaryoperations. >> what's your number one priority. >> modernization of the air force. >> new generation of fighter aircraft f-15s and f-16s been out there a long time. >> at a point where our fighter fleet is averaging between 25 and almost 50 years old in the case of the a-10, for example. we have other aircraft that have fleets of airplanes over 50 years old. 12 feets that can drive around with antique license plates in the state of virginia over 25 years ago. air forces have to modernize to stay relevant. >> enough personnel. what about the man power? >> the man power has dropped about as low as we can go and do what we've been asked to do
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today. we can't get smaller unless the nation wants to reconsider how it uses its military. >> i remember when i was a pentagon correspondent work assumption the u.s. air force, army marine corps, the navy they could fight two simultaneous wars at the same time. that was the mission. is that still the mission? >> we're passed that. we have a strategy that says we should be able to fight and defeat one opponent we should be able to deny another aggressor somewhere else in the world for some period of time and be able to defend doo he fend the homeland simultaneously. we're on the ragds edge of being able to do that. >> is your mission to degrade isis or to destroy isis? >> our goal in the near term is multiple lines of effort going on right now. as you know there's diplomatic line of effort economic line of effort there's a counter financing line of effort and the air campaign is intended to degrade, delay, to destroy where we can, leadership ability to finance those kind of targets and try and not get too far ahead of the other lines of effort. what we don't want to do is
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destroy large areas of the population create more ungovern ungoverned space where the other groups can create more difficulty with the iraqi government. >> one final question we heard the secretary of defense ash carter say he was disappointed the iraqi military showed no will to fight when they abandoned fallujah and mosul, you served in iraq and familiar with what the experience of the united states military was there. what happened to the iraqi military? >> wolf i think the key force is not figuring out why they didn't fight, what are they willing to fight for. they're brave men and women in iraq. we have to figure out what it is they're willing to fight and die for and stand beside them as they make that effort. >> thank you for coming. >> thank you, sir. pleasure. >> thank you for serving the united states of america. >> that's a privilege. >> the chief of staff of the u.s. air force. >> former iraqi minister tariq aziz died. he was the face of the saddam hussein regime during both gulf
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. welcome back to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer reporting from washington. we're getting new details that are emerging now about allegations of sexual abuse by the former speaker of the united states house of representatives. dennis hastert accused of paying hush money to cover up past misconduct and for the first time the name of an alleged victim has now surfaced. a woman tells abc news hastert sexually abused her brother during high school. hastert was then the wrestling coach. her brother was then the equipment manager on the wrestling team and says she confronted hastert after her brother steven reinboldt died in 1995. >> i just looked at him and i said i want to know why you did what you did to my brother. he just stood there and stared at me and then i just continued to say, i want you to know that
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your secret didn't die in there with my brother and i want you to remember that i'm out here and that i know. >> cnn investigations correspondent chris freights is following the story and joining us live from chicago. what more have we learned about the alleged victim the accusations by his sister? >> well wolf we've learned that the sister is one of former -- denny hastert's former students telling abc news that hastert abused her brother throughout his high school career. now steve reinboldt was abused by hastert in the 1970s while hastert was a high school wrestling coach and reinboldt the team's equipment manager. his sister jolene burdge says her brother first told her about the alleged abuse in 1979 when he revealed to her that he was gay. when her brother died in 1995 hastert attended his funeral and that's where burdge confronted
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him about the abuse from that sound bite we just heard from. now federal prosecutors allege that hastert agreed to pay a different man $3.5 million to hide his past misconduct. reinboldt says she never asked hastert for any money. now hastert's charged with trying to hide the payments to the unidentified victim and lying to the fbi. we've reached out to hastert's attorney and the fbi for comment and not heard back from them yet and it's interesting, wolf we've been trying to get a statement, a public statement, from dennis hastert since he was indicted last week. we have yet to hear anything and we're looking forward to tuesday where he makes his first court appearance here in chicago, wolf. >> the alleged victim's sister says she tried back in 2006 to tell authorities and news organizations about hastert. he was then speaker of the house of representatives. why is this just coming to light now? >> well back in 2006 it was
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difficult to corroborate. the news organizations she reached out to couldn't talk to her brother, obviously. he had passed away. remember during that time that was the mark foley scandal. he was a republican from florida, a fellow republican house speaker hastert was accused of maybe not responding to some accusations that foley had sent inappropriate text messages to high school pages, and so there was some scandal, sex scandal, involving a republican member of congress back then. the sister says she tried to alert people to that back in 2006 but there was just not enough collaboration back then. >> thanks very much. just ahead, job growth here in the united states is up but president obama's poll numbers are down. so if it's the economy stupid why isn't the president getting more credit for an improved u.s. economy? we're going to talk about that and more. a former senior adviser to the
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new numbers today point to a strong job market and employers added 280,000 jobs here in the united states in may. the unemployment rate ticked up a little bit to 5.5%. economists say that's a sign that more people are actually returning to the job market.
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but a new poll is out this week by cnn, president obama's job approval rating took a hit. just 45% approve of the way he's handling his job compared to 52% who disapprove. our cnn political commentator and former senior adviser to president obama. you guys in the white house, you're no longer there, must be frustrated the president doesn't get more credit when he sees job numbers increasing every month now for many months the stock market is doing well unemployment has gone down dramatically over the past 6.5 years, yet he doesn't seem to get a lot of credit for that. why is that? >> we want credit for everything and blame for nothing. as i'm sure anyone else would. the president's numbers have gone up fairly steadily since the midterm elections where we hit a real low and, you know, they tend to travel within a fairly narrow band every few months. i suspect they'll bounce back up sooner rather than later. >> almost 280,000 jobs created
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in may, 5.5% unemployment and you remember what was going on when you took office in january of 2009 the jobs you were losing 800,000, 900,000 jobs a month, unemployment at 10 or 11%. the dow jones at that point was about 7,000. it's now 18,000. yet, when you ask the american people do you approve or disapprove the way the president is handling his job including on the economy he doesn't get a lot of great grades. >> well look people are still struggling in this economy. we've made great progress. you cite the stock market the job creation which, you know, is in far contrast to what the republicans said would happen if president obama was re-elected and the president jokes when we look at the stock market he's the worst socialist president in history but as people, you know -- middle class are still struggling and you will see that in the polls but we're making slow and steady progress. >> the argument that other side makes these numbers are not reflective of what's going on because so many people especially in the middle class
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they haven't seen a wage increase in fact some of them have lost wages, get a new job, yes, they have a job, but not making what they used to make and a lot of people have dropped out of the job force. off he heard that? >> well in the recent job report people were coming back which is why it ticked up a bit. wage stagnation is a problem. we're making slow and steady progress and if the republicans feel strongly about helping people with wages they should pass the minimum wage increase. >> one numbers where they went down his handling of isis people lost confidence in that the nsa surveillance program what do you do about that if you were still in the white house advising the president. >> they're doing the right stuff. this is -- both of these issues are challenging because they split democrats a lot of ways. no one is comfortable with having to be involved in the middle east like we are, so the best thing you can do is keep working and good policy will end up being good politics. it will take a long time. >> the former secretary of state
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the democratic presidential candidate hillary clinton she was out there in texas. for the first time in this campaign she was actually naming names of republican -- potential republican challengers, criticizing them for their position on voting capabilities. listen to this. >> governor perry is hardly alone in his crusade against voting rights. in wisconsin, governor scott walker cut back early voting. in new jersey governor chris christie vetoed legislation to extend early voting. in florida, when jeb bush was governor state authorities conducted a deeply flawed purge of voters before the presidential election in 2000. >> smart to start naming republican candidates specifically? >> oh, absolutely. i think first the policy proposals she put are right on the issues and the efforts that the republicans have done whether they're 2016 contenders
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or not, to restrict voting is actually repulsive. we should want more to vote. what she did last night was good poll sick si and politics. >> has the president done enough with his bully pull pit to talk about this specific issue? haven't heard a lot, a little bit but not much. >> i'm sure he'll do more as time goes on and we get close to the election but he will continue to make the case on it and after the election in 2012 he appointed a commission with his former campaign lawyer and mitt romney's former campaign lawyer to do a commission to figure out how to make voting easier in the country and pushing states to implement the recommendations. >> dan pfeiffer thank you for jolene joining us. >> thank you. >> it's called the middle east respiratory syndrome and led to quarantine on the u.s. air base. the head of the nih program on this contagious disease. that and much more. anthony fauci standing by. introducing neutrogena hydro boost water gel. instantly quenches skin to keep it supple and hydrated day after day.
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joining us live from nih in bethesda maryland. how concerned should we be about the incident at the u.s. air base? >> i don't think we need to be overly concerned, though we need to be vigilant wolf because this is a virus that is known to be able to spread inefficiently from one person to another upon very close contact. it is not the kind of virus that readily spreads in the community. so though, obviously, you want to take seriously the infections we're seeing right now, it is not the kind of virus that would be concern like influenza which spreads very widely within the community even when you don't have particularly close contact. and that's what we've seen in virtually all of the cases that have now been reported to korea, from korea which unfortunately is the largest outbreak that we've seen outside of the arabian peninsula. you want to take it seriously,
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but i don't think it should be of overly concern to us right now. >> correct me if i'm wrong, this is a relatively new disease, only learning about it not that long ago. how deadly potentially is it? >> well, right >> well right now if you look at all the cases that have been reported mostly from the arabian peninsula, a little bit shy of 1200 cases. there have been over 400 deaths so the death rate the case fatality rate is somewhere between 30 and 40%. that's very serious. now, there may be some cases that are not clinically evident, which would make the fatality rate go down. but the observation now of a fatality rate that serious is something that you take quite seriously for those who get infected. >> so you say it's not as easily spread as influenza, let's say, but how do you get this mers? >> you get it from direct contact through the respiratory route. so the manifestations wolf and
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the symptoms of mers are cough, fever, shortness of breath. when you get into a hospital setting or in a family member in which someone is close in proximity and coughing on you, it's through the respiratory route that you get it. but it isn't so easy spread that if you go out into the community and casual contact on an elevator or in a subway it doesn't appear to be spread that way at all. so it needs to be close contact. >> we're told about 1500 south koreans right now, and we're being seen in south korea as we speak, they're being described in what's called self-quarantine self-quarantine. some schools have been closed. is this out of an abundance of caution? what do you make of this? >> yeah, i would say that would be a good description, wolf out of an abundance of caution. bow to close schools the way they are, i think they're being quite aggressive in trying to contain the infection. given what we know about it again, you don't want to comment
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on or criticize how another country handles it. i would characterize it as being quite aggressive in their trying to contain it by closing schools in such a wide way, the way they have. >> how long is the incubation period? >> well, the incubation period usually is around five to six days. it could be as long as a couple of weeks, but the median time is somewhere between five six, seven days from the time you get exposed. >> all right. let's hope they can contain this and do it quickly. doctor, thanks very much for your expertise. >> good to be be you, wolf. >> hundreds of families in china could soon get closure days after a cruise ship capsized. using slings and cranes recovery crews have managed to raise the eastern star, turn it joup upright for the first time since it capsized monday night. rescuers at the time saved 14 people out of 456 passengers and crew who were on board. more than 150 bodies had been
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the oldest son of vice president joe biden will be laid to rest tomorrow but today there's a public viewing in wilmington delaware. these are live pictures from outside a catholic church in wilmington where mourners are coming to pay their final respects to the two-term delaware attorney general. obviously a very difficult time for the vice president and his entire family. tell us what's going on. >> reporter: it certainly is a difficult time wolf for their family. you can really see the emotion and the pain on the biden family faces. this is the second day of three days' worth of ceremonies. at times we've noticed vice president joe biden bowing his head really overcome at time with emotions. just a few moments ago, the flag-draped casket of beau biden arrived here at this church
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where it will be on display throughout the day for a public viewing. the line trying to get into this church really stretched around the block. many people were connected to beau biden. it really was not hard to find anyone that didn't know beau biden personally. here's what two women had to say. >> it just saddens me. they're such a wonderful family. i'll miss him. i'll miss beau. i wish them the best. i pray for them every day. >> beau was a good father a good friend a good son, and good to all the community. anybody that wanted to talk to beau he took time to talk to you and listen to you. >> reporter: and that woman, faith green, she said she worked not only for beau biden but also joe biden over the years in his various campaigns. she said she was personally touched and hurt by this loss wolf. and tomorrow here at this church is where president obama will
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deliver the eulogy at the funeral. >> and that eulogy that service will be open to the public. is that right? we'll be able to see it here on cnn? >> reporter: that is right. the service and eulogy will be open to the public. we're told the vice president's family specifically chose this church in downtown wilmington to be able to host a significant amount of people in the community. so again, we do expect a lot of people from throughout wilmington to come out tomorrow. >> and if people come today where you are in wilmington they'll be able to still for a few more hours pay their respects. is that right, sunlen? >> reporter: that's right. there's two waves of public viewing today. one taking place this afternoon from 1:00 to 4:00. then the family will go into some private time. then they'll reopen the public viewing from 6:00 to 9:00 p.m. >> our deepest condolences to the vice president, his wife dr. jill biden, the entire family on this loss of beau biden. i knew beau biden. he was a terrific guy. passed away of brain cancer unfortunately, at the age of
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only 46. deepest, deepest condolences. that's it for me. i'll be back 5:00 p.m. eastern in "the situation room." for our international viewers "amanpour "amanpour" is coming up next. for our viewers in north america, "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now. wolf blitzer, thank you so much. great to be with you on this friday. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. got to start with these shocking allegations of hush money, child molestation, and abuse of power by a d.c. heavy weight. i'm talking about the man to the right here of then-president bill clinton. this is former speaker of the house dennis hastert. i can now tell you a woman has come forward saying her brother, her now deceased brother steven reinboldt endured years and years of abuse at the hands of the high school wrestling coach, dennis