tv New Day Sunday CNN June 7, 2015 3:00am-4:01am PDT
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we're following two big developing stories this morning. the battle against isis. russian aggression and trade. these are the issues that president obama is tackling this morning at the g-7 summit. >> and developing this morning, an all-out manhunt for these two convicted murderers. please look at your screen here. they are characterized as dangerous men escaping from a maximum security prison, the first escape in that facility, and this morning officials are scrambling to find them still. boy, wishing you a very good morning. so grateful to have your company. i'm christi paul. >> and i'm victor blackwell.
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always great to be with you on a sunday morning. president barack obama is in germany where he and several others will begin tackling major issues, among them stopping the russian aggression in ukraine. jim acosta joins us now. what does the president want world powers to do about russia and the aggressions in ukraine? >> reporter: well, victor, as you can tell, the spectacular setting does not disappoint, and it's going to be awfully distracting for the leaders here at the g-7 summit in the alps, but they have a lot of business to get to, so they will have to put the distractions aside. you're right. from the crisis in ukraine to the violence in the war against isis there is a lot to tackle for these leaders here at the g-7 summit and the president sent some brief remarks
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addressed all of that as these leaders were starting to arrive in germany. here's what he had to say. >> over the next two days we're going to discuss our shared future, a global economy that creates jobs and opportunity, maintaining a strong and prosperous european union and forging new trade partnerships across the atlantic and standing up to russian aggression in ukraine and combating threats from violent extremism to climate change, and on all these issues we are very grateful for partnership and leadership of your chancellor, angela merkel. >> you heard the president there refer to russian aggression and ukraine. clearly the crisis in ukraine is at the top of this agenda for g-7 summit and what senior administration officials have been saying over the last several days is that one of their goals here is to make sure that european leaders want to
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continue pressure, economic pressure on russia for its actions in ukraine. they don't want to see the europeans relaxing the sanctions on russia right now so they will be talking a lot about that, but before, you know, they really got down to business here, victor, i should point out that president obama and the host of this summit, german chancellor angela merkel went for a walk in a nearby village where they enjoyed beer and pretzels. the president said it's a very fine beer that he already had. lunchtime in the alps and gotten off to that kind of start and even joked about some of the local attire that you'll see, you know, traditionally worn in this part of germany and austria. the president said he did not bring any lederhosen with him on this trip and hopes to pick some up while over here. >> nothing wrong with starting early if you have a big day ahead. jim acosta, thank you so much. >> reporter: that's right. >> there are polarizing views of this summit and 17,000 police are on the ground to strengthen
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security for these leaders. take a look at the scene earlier today, protesters there, some of them having to be carried off after they were arrested. just yesterday police dispersed pepper spray to break up the crowds. you showed you had yesterday thousands of protesters. do you see the same kind of thing ham this morning already? >> reporter: well, what has happened this morning, christi, is that demonstrateors have changed tactics. they have split up into much smaller group and are launching smaller actions to distract police because there are 17,000 police that are trying to control the crowds here so the demonstrators at one point tried to blockade a major highway to stop supplies from going up to the g-7. the police stopped that group, stopped them from getting in. as you already mentioned, a small group had a sit-in on a highway, and they were removed by police. this group, they have inflated these huge balloons.
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these big fat air balloons, they say, are those that represent, according to the protesters, the fat elite fat cat leaders of the group of seven. we have the german chancellor angela merkel here. just behind her we have president obama. we have the fat face of the british prime minister david cameron as well, and this really represents what the protesters say is wrong about the group of seven. they used the group of seven of trying to divide up the pie of world politics and world economics for themselves and not sharing it out in a more even fairer way for their own citizens and for wider global community. now, of course, these protesters did have a vow that today they would try to disrupt and even shut down the g-7 meeting going on in a castle about 12 miles away from here. so far they have not been successful at doing that. the police are getting pretty good at trying to close down
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these small pop-up demonstrations as they are happening because there is a massive police presence. christi? >> karl, thank you so much and for explaining those bobbleheads behind you. we took a second look and thought what on earth is that. karl penhaul, thank you so much. >> the executive director of the bertelsmann foundation, a non-partisan think tank and joins us this morning from washington. if you could detail for us what leverage the u.s. has at this summit to get the world powers to keep up the pressure on russia an on president putin. >> don't forget the american president is in germany today at the g-7 to achieve his major objective which is european unity over the sanctions in -- towards russia and we have four european leaders, the french, the british, german and italians, and i think it's very important that these leaders
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have some private time, so to say, with the american president to discuss how to keep the sanctions regime in place and to extend it until the end of the year. and i think the american president is key for angela merkel to achieve this european unity. >> so the sanctions have been in place for some time. have weakened the ruble and caused problems for president putin and the russian people but is there any indications that these sanctions have dissuaded putin from further aggression and further sanctions will dissuade him from going even further in ukraine? >> i think we've seen over the last few days the fighting has continued in the eastern ukraine and seen in the second quarter of this year that the russian economy is bouncing back despite of the sanctions so i think the leaders have to take to a certain extent an evaluation of
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these sanctions and have to take a decision how to move forward, but at this point so to say no one has a real recipe how to engage with russia and how to put real pressure on the russian president and their sanctions are the only tool in the toolbox to impose pressure on the russian president so they will continue with the sanctions regime, but besides that i think there is some more creative thinking needed how to engage russia in the future because completely isolating it hasn't worked so far. >> thank you so much. we'll continue to watch the conversation that's continuing in germany as the world leaders continue to meet and at the top of the agenda what to do about russia. thank you so much, annette. >> coming up, thousands of migrants stranded in the mediterranean. life-saving efforts to get these people to safety. >> also developing this morning, authorities searching for these
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two men dangerous, inmates escaped from a new york prison. how they did it. it's mind-boggling, and we have the latest on search for them. they have been gone for more than 24 hours now. also, a nearly four decade long dry spell and we have a triple crown winner, people. but what's next for american pharoah now? [whirring drones] just stay calm and move as quietly as possible. ♪ [whirring drones] ♪ no sudden movements. ♪ [screaming panic] ♪ [whirring drones] google search: bodega beach house. ♪ ♪ [drones crashing] ♪
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they escaped from a new york prison. this prison was built in 1865. it is the first escape ever from this maximum security prison. before they probing out though, apparently they left a note. there it is. have a nice day. look at that thing. clinton colorectal facility in upstate new york, about 20 miles from the porter with canada. the two convicted murderers were able to somehow get their hands on power tools, cut a hole in the back of their cells, who didn't hear that is what i want to know? >> right. >> and then they followed a series of tunnels until they emerged from a manhole outside the prison. there are so many questions here. how did they know the skeleton of that prison? how did they get the power tools? how did they do it without anybody -- i mean, drilling a power tool is not quiet. >> lots of questions here, and you wonder if this was an inside job or had some help from the outside. let's get some answers from cnn law enforcement analyst and former assistant director tom fuentes.
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tom, when i read this story i thought "shaw shank." guys working year after year after year with a chisel but they have power tools. does this sound like an inside job? >> victor, i think you would say, yes, it sounds like an inside job to get the tools and to have a layout how to get out of that prison and to have someone waiting for them to get them away. it's a well thought out plan obviously. they have a minimum of eight hours from the time they were last seen and a stand-up check friday night until they were discovered missing and by time the authorities get their ability together and start the search, you know, they have a good, eight, ten, 12-hour head start from there. they could have already been in canada by the time people even discovered they were missing. one these two prisoners had escaped from an earlier jail and been found in mexico and brought back to the u.s., so they are not -- they are not averse to leaving the u.s., and, you know,
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moving on. again, with that much of a head start they could have flown away, driven away, any number of things. this is not going to be like in the movies where they are outside the prison walls with bloodhounds in the local woods looking for these guys. this was well planned and they are probably long gone. >> what's search look like if it's not the bloodhounds in the middle of the night? what does it look like now? >> fugitive search like this, already heard they have asked for assistance from the u.s. marshals and the fbi. warrants are issued at the federal level to look for them interstate and internationally with the idea that the federal government doesn't take over the case. they merely try to locate them and turn them back over to the new york state authorities, but the manhunt will look like going to every known address of every known family member starting with their immediate family and then moving on to other friends, people that have known them over the years because at some point,
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because, again, you don't know how well planned this is. usually fugitives on run need money. can't go to an atm or use credit cards or do anything that would leave an electronic trail and you look for everybody that's out there that they would reach out for to get assistance, but it looks like in this case they probably had a lot of assistance from long before the escape occurred. >> the person you see here in the center of the screen is new york governor andrew kweemo who looked at this location trying to understand as we all are how these two men got up. they popped up through a manhole so this is a maximum security prison. we understand theoretically that they have been planning this escape would have some access and start to understand the makeup of the facility, but they have got to have some outside knowledge of the manhole and the sewer system. do they have internet access? how would they have been able to know how to get into the sewer system and then out to a
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manhole? >> well, they might not have known and they might have taken several trial runs where they, you know, ran around like mice underground following the tunnels seeing where they would lead to, seeing where a logical escape place might be without actually doing it until they were pretty sure that they knew the way out, especially if they were doing it in the dark through dark, damp, rat-infested tunnels so probably this was rehearsed on their part for a while, tested the system and got a lay. land and a lay of the underground land so they knew where to go once they had the opportunity. >> so many facets of this story we want to discuss. tom fuentes, thanks for discussing with us this morning and we'll come back throughout the morning and talk more about these convicts, their backgrounds and how possibly they pulled off this escape. thanks, tom. >> yeah, i'm fascinated, fascinated by this. >> yes. >> all right. the death toll, i'm sorry, to
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tell you is rising in that cruise ship disaster in china. we'll let you know what we've known this morning. american pharoah, watched him made history when he took the coveted triple crown. here's what a lot of people have been asking. can this win save a sport that's opinion in decline? ah, the usual. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what's up for the next shift? ah, nothing much. just keeping the lights on. (laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy. see you tomorrow, mac. see you tomorrow, sam. just another day at norfolk southern. what do a nasca comedian... and a professional golfer have in common? we talked to our doctors about treatment with xarelto®. xarelto® is proven to treat and help reduce the risk of dvt and pe blood clots.
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16th pole and here it is, the 37-year wait is over. american pharoah is finally the one. american pharoah has won the triple crown! >> that is a victory of all victories. you know, part of i think what is so great, not just about seeing him cross the finish line is the reaction of people. >> yes. >> i would have loved to have seen people in cameras and living rooms and at parties who were watching and a nearly four decade long dry spell and american pharoah claimed it, the triple crown, this weekend at the belmont stakes, of course. millions of people watched this on nbc, some 90,000 fans going berserk watching this 3-year-old
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colt. did you just have the ticket of a lifetime you? saw the whole thing. i hear that this horse now is worth $100 million. is it safe to say that there are a lot of people out there that will be paying for some american pharoah babies? >> little pharoahs. >> is that what's next? >> absolutely. after the preakness they sold the breeding rights to american pharoah after the preakness and there's, of course, a caveat if he won the triple crown that price would go up. his owner ahmed zayat sold him to an irish stable. now american pharoah, that's what's up next for him. he's leaving here, belmont park, leaving here at 7:30 a.m. and going back to louisville, kentucky and churchill downs and i'm sure what's up next for him is a lot of relaxation, champion of horse racing, first one we've seen in 37 years and bob baffert said he'll be eating lots of
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carrots. >> just roaming around in the fields of kentucky. sounds like a nice little life, doesn't it? let's talk about victor espinoza, what about him? was he the oldest jockey to win, do i understand? >> yes, that's right. he was the oldest jockey ever to win the triple crown. you know, this was his third shot, failed two times before, once with bob baffert, bob baffert the legendary trainer of american pharoah, so they had been in this situation before. victor espinoza got the monkey off his back and winning it was the fourth time a charm for bob baffert. you know, he missed a triple crown years ago just by a nose, and he really wanted this and gave all the credit to the horse after the race saying the american pharoah the best and he ever had been dealt. let's hear from bob baffert after winning the first triple crown in 37 years. >> 37 years, we're part of it. but you know what, that little horse, he deserved it. he's a great horse and the way
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he's been all winter and this spring is just like, you know, that's why everybody was just hoping, what a feeling. still, it's probably going to take a few days to -- to sink in. >> you know what, guys? i've been to super bowls and to game seven of the world series. the moment when american pharoah crossed that finish line yesterday was probably the top sports moment i've ever been a part of. people were going nuts, jumping up and down, crying, hugging people they didn't even know. everyone holding up their cell phone trying to capture this historic moment, just incredible and who knows when we'll see this again. of course we waited 37 years for this one and we really don't know how historic this is going to be because it's so hard to win a triple crown the way these races are set up these days >> you see the pictures of people and we heard rumors that horse racing, the fans were kind of wavering, losing popularity.
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i have to think this will reinvigorate the whole thing. andy glad for you that you got to experience it the way that you d.thanks so much for sharing it with us. >> reporter: all right, guys. >> thank you, andy. >> let's talk about this manhunt happening this weekend in new york. it's all out. you've got local police, state officials, u.s. marshals, because two inmates have pulled off an elaborate and historic escape. let's not stand in awe of the escape because these are dangerous prisonersch we'll find out who they are. more on them next. plus a georgia man dies in police custody. his death is ruled a homicide. hear why his family claims police are not telling the whole story. moms knowafter brushing, mouths often need a helping hand. listerine® total care helps prevent cavities, strengthens teeth and restores tooth enamel. it's an easy way to give listerine® total care
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german chancellor angela merkel. the violence in ukraine, isis are overshadowing the gathering of these world leaders though, the two subjects are. president obama urging them to stand up to russian aggression in ukraine. we'll have a live report for you at the top of the hour. also, the death toll from the horrific chinese cruise ship disaster is now at 431 coming from china's official news agency this morning, and as of now 11 people are still unaccounted for. we're following the search for two inmates after their daring escape from a maximum security prison in new york. richard matt and david sweat are on the run this morning after using power tools, think about that. they are in prison and have access to these tools somehow and got through a series of tunnels in order to get out. they were able to estate the clinton correctional facility in upstate new york 25 miles from the canadian border. more than 200 police officers, we're talking local officers and
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u.s. marshals and state authorities are now assisting in the manhunt for these two men. authorities describe them as dangerous and they are urging nearby residents to lock their doors. we've got cnn's paolo sandoval here with more. we don't want to stand in awe of the escape. these are dangerous criminals. >> that's incredible. this story has all the makings of a hollywood movie but as you mentioned the threat posed by these two guys is very real. officials, as you mentioned, from the local state and federal level trying to track down these two individuals. we looked closer at their rap sheet. a few more details on richard matt, serving 25 years to life convicted on three counts of murder. he kidnapped a man and beat him to death in 1977 and also taking a closer look at his accomplice, at least in the prison break, david sweat, 34-year-old man convicted cop killer serving a
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life sentence. the "new york times" reporting he and several accomplices shot a sheriff's deputy 22 times and then left his body in a parking lot overnight. this reportedly happening after a fourth of july robbery after a fireworks store so, again, the past of these two individuals clearly an indication of how at least what they are willing to do. we did hear from new york governor andrew cuomo who has retraced some of their steps within the prison walls and feels these two individuals have very little to lose and would be willing to do basically anything to get away. >> these are two dangerous individuals. one was incarcerated for killing a sheriff so these are dangerous people, and they are nothing to be trifled with and want to make sure they don't infrikt any more pain on any more new yorkers. >> truly exceptional scenes
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praying out 20 miles south of the new york-canadian border. as you mentioned there's hundreds of state, federal and local police trying to track these two guys down, victor. on ground with bloodhounds. in the air with helicopters trying to find these two guys again, just an aerial view of this area. fairly remote so officials searching through the woods. as you mentioned, they are evening going door to door trying to make sure people keep their doors locked as tracking these guys will be key and find and arresting them alive could be key because they could be the only ones who can answer how they were able to pull this off, how they acquired the power tools. were they already familiar with the prison schematics and how were they able to pull off this first prison break since that facility was established well over 150 years ago. victor? >> one has to wonder if they were able to pull off this really detailed escape how intricately have they planned staying outside of this facility. we'll follow this, of course,
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more next hour. paolo sandoval, thanks so much. >> we're learning that a grand jury will hear an indictment late they are month in the case of the 21-year-old savannah college student who died on new year's day while in police custody. >> the coroner ruled his death a homicide earlier this week and next violen-- and nick valencia been looking into the case. >> reporter: the death certificate says blunt fours trauma killed the 21-year-old. the manner of death homicide. >> thank you. thank you. >> reporter: at a vigil in savannah friends and family frustrated by the county sheriff and what they call his lack of transparents about the death. the college student died while in police custody. >> this guy continues to keep his job and that's dishonorable for matthew's life. >> reporter: what happened to
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matthew on new year's day is not entirely day seen here on surveillance tape, he and his girlfriend struggle during what his family says was a medical episode. he's bipolar. a police report says his girlfriend's face was bruised and her nose bleeding. police say he thought them, too, and becomes, quote, combative during the booking process and injures three deputies, including a female sergeant who, quote, suffered a concussion and broken nose. >> matthew had documented bipolar disorder and was on medication for it and sometimes the medications done work fully and also acknowledged some people don't take their medications when they should. >> mark o'mara is a cnn legal analyst and has also been hired by the family to help them find justice. >> i want the people in savannah to know that if they don't get transparency, this is going to continue to happen.
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i want the family of matthew to know what happened. we just ask for transparency. we just ask for openness. >> reporter: nine deputies with the chatham county sheriff's office have been fired in connection with the death. so far no one has been formally charged but the case will reportedly go before a grand jury late they are month. victor, christi. >> let bring in our hln legal analyst and criminal defense attorney. the coroner ruled this a homicide but that's not tantamount to murder and doesn't mean that charges are forthcoming. a lot of people are looking at this saying why? >> it does not, christi, and good morning to you, and that will be dependant upon the facts of the case. now, obviously something went wrong and something went wrong drastically, as nick talked about. there were nine deputies disciplined in as much as they were discharged so the issue becomes how does someone end up sitting in a chair for four hours when protocols provide for them to be 15-minute rounds to
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check on somebody's well-being whether they are in a state of really medical distress or not, just to see how they are and apparently the autopsy says there's blunt force trauma that was there and apparently there was bleeding to the skull which was an indication, you know, he was roughed up in some manner. i think it's also an indication that some protocols were not followed, citi, as much as there were discipline to these officers. we don't know whether a grand jury will ultimately indict and we don't know if the grand jury does indict whether there's convictions. right now homicide, death at the hands of another, the clinical term to be used. we may be using another term when this is all said and done, and that term you're familiar with, you know, some time of manslaughter, et cetera, we don't know. don't want to pre-judge but a grand jury will make the decision as to criminal responsibility and then, of course, a jury will determine if it goes that far whether someone should be held accountable or many people should be held accountable for his death. >> can we pull that video back up that we were just showing.
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we have this video of part of what happened obviously once they had him in custody and he's on the ground and some guys will be on top him in a minute. how does surveillance video like this or just video in general since it's in their facilities, how does that play into what could happen? what could be forthcoming in a legal case? how might it benefit the family or not? >> it's a huge tool, and the reality is, you know, that a picture is worth 1,000 words, et cetera. a videotape tells a story. obviously it doesn't tell all the story in as much as there's not every angle that you could particularly see. >> and there's no sound. >> exactly. >> sound is important, is it not? >> it certainly is. the audio, it gives you some indication, more of the flavor of what's going on, whether there's belligerence or whether there's not but certainly the videotape in and of itself you could see the body strikes there, the issue is going to be whether it's justified, whether
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the tackle holds, control holds, other types of force there are something they are trained on, that they are consistent with policy in that particular facility and whether they were warranted under these circumstances or whether they were excessive so make no mistake about it. this videotape in the grand jury and when it goes further will be very critical to determining whether or not things happened here that were excessive or whether they were justified. >> all right. joey jackson, always grateful for your opinion. >> thank you, christi. a major problem that maybe you haven't heard about or have been paying attention to, the number of migrants, many from libya, trying to cross the mediterranean, and many of them are headed to italy. this number is high and it's rising. we're talking about hundreds of thousands. hear what naval ships are doing about the problem. plus -- >> it irritates me. it upsets me. >> a biker files a civil rights lawsuit three weeks after that deadly shootout in texas. remember that one, when so many people were arrested? well, he says his civil rights
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you can't get any thbetter than that. trains. siemens trains are not your grandparent's technology. they're something that's gonna change the cities we live in today. i find it so fascinating how many people ride this and go to work every single day. i'm one of the lucky guys. i get to play with trains. people say, "wow, we still build that in the united states?" and we say, "yeah, we do!"
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. more than ten migrant rescue operations are under way in the mediterranean. we're talking about multiple ships responding to rescue thousands of migrants trying to reach europe. this is according to the international organization for migrati migration. just yesterday british and german naval ships, look at these pictures, they began what's an ongoing rescue operation of roughly 2,000
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migrants off the coast of libya. people just jam packed in these small boats. more now from greece. what have you learned this morning? >> reporter: good morning, christi. you're quite right. ten operations under way this very moment. we've heard from the iom as well as the unhch both reporting they are still ongoing. they are expecting to rescue 2,000 migrants. like you clearly stated a lot of the dingies of the boats carry up to 30 people, if not more people, squashed in there. that is in addition, christi, to the more than dozen operations, dozen vessels, navy vessels that really rescued some -- i'm going to give you 3,850 migrant, so in 48 hours here we're looking at more than 6,000 migrants being rescued. why? well, the sea is much calmer and they are making it warm, it's summer and they are making that
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crossing. to give you an example. look behind me over the sea, that piece of land behind me that is turkey. we are on an island where there's 30,000 inhabitants and some 8,000 people have made the crossing this year alone compared to last year. you can really see the number of migrants desperate to get into europe, christi. >> the pictures are something else. isa soarez, so appreciate it. imagine many zip tied for 24 hours and not being allowed to even make a phone call. that's the claim from bikers who were arrested after that deadly rival gang shootout in waco? remember that one? were their rights actually violated and will this hold up in court? first let's take a look at this week's one to watch and it looks how this superstar pianist is passing his craft on to future
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generations. ♪ >> reporter: the chinese pianist has become a global superstar through a combination of his breathtaking talent and flamboyant personality. ♪ he's one of the few artists today who can frequently pack out concert halls around the world. he's performed for presidents, prime ministers and princes and entertained a global audience at the beijing olympics. >> an artist today must bring diversity or different dimensions to our plain. if you're just sitting there, you know, for two hours of just, you know, different pieces, i think, you know, it can be very challenging. ♪ >> reporter: what's become known as the lang-lang effect has inspired millions of chinese children to take up the piano. he harbors a passion to pass on
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his love for the instrument to a younger generation as a unicef ambassador and his own music foundation. ♪ >> when i see those kids playing on stage or in the class, i get real emotional, because it really brings me back, and i just got very personal attached to those kids that i really want to help them to achieve their dreams because i know we had the same dream before. >> watch the full show at cnn.com/onestowatch.
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when i first sit in the seat it makes me think of a bmw. i feel like i'm in a lexus. you would think that this was a brand new audi. it's like a luxury car. feels kind of like an infinity. very similar to a range rover. this is pretty high tech. yeah it is. it reminds me of a mercedes. ♪ this is chevy? laughing i have a new appreciation for chevy. they thought about me. i could totally rock this. this thing feels pretty boss. it looks kind of dope. that's pretty cool. this is the jam. pretty bomb dude. maybe i will go chevy. i'm definitely in. ♪
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in just a couple of hours hundreds of bikers are expected to rally in waco, texas. they claimed their rights were violated. you remember this a couple weeks ago? more than 170 bikers were arrested at twin peaks restaurant on may 17th it was after police say rival gangs stabbed, beat, shot at one another. non-bikers died. well, today some of those bikers who went to jail still are not free. they say they are innocent and their rights are being violated. here's what one one man said when he was released after spending 17 days in jail. >> that's absolutely wonderful to be able to walk out of there finally after so many days. somebody who believes strongly against judging a book by a cover, and even though that's
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exactly what law enforcement did here is judge us all purely by the fact that we were riding a motorcycle. >> he's now filing a lawsuit. let's bring back hln legal analyst joey jackson. he claims his constitutional rights were violated and that the judge set bail at $1 million just to sent a message and he claims that the district attorney created these fill in the blank arrest warrants and claims that bikers were not cooperating. how do you determine, and i wonder if you think that they really have a strong case here. >> good morning, victor. they may very well have, and let's start with the premise of the lawsuit, and that is that each individual person in the event that they were engaged in a crime, those facts should be articulated and made specific to what misconduct, if any, they engaged in as opposed to a cookie cutter approach. there's two sides to this, victor, of course. on the one hand we expect and
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anticipate that police officers, a, detect crime and that they, b, are in a position to deter any criminal activity and so you have to give them some leeway to detect crime and go after crime and root it out and ensure that this is not going to happen in our town so to speak. at the same time you have to do that in a way that's just and fair and that ascribes criminal facts to those parties who actually engage in them. just don't arrest people that's predicated upon association and so if that's the case then there will be problems. if the police have just cause that's another story, victor. >> they also claim, some of them, that they were in the zip ties, white bands that people see around wrists of people in custody for 24 hours, and they were not immediately allowed to make a phone call. i think people who have never been arrested, they think, boy, you get that arbitrary phone call and as soon as you get in, if they did not get that, is that a violation of their rights?
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>> not necessarily and let me explain why. when you have these types of mass arrests you need some leeway for law enforcement to be able to do their job so you're not talking about zip-tying people just for, you know, the benefit of just zip tying them because there's nothing better to do. you don't know what happened if you're a law enforcement official and we have an obligation the community suspects, the community officers suspect to find out what happened and who did what when, how and why and that's the obligation and to the extent there's so many parties involved it's important for you to get things under control and so there's a certain latitude that's afforded for that. the issue is whether it becomes too much and whether it becomes arbitrary and whether it becomes unnecessary to doing what you're going to do, so that in and of itself i don't think is a violation. certainly keeping them too long and setting bail just because, hey, you were there and you're a biker, that becomes another problem. >> lots of questions still here.
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thanks for offering answers. joey jackson. >> thank you, victor. >> have a great day. >> you, too. russia escalating threats in the ukraine and isis growing. these are issues president obama and other leaders are tackling at the g-7 summit. cnn's jim acosta is there, and we'll have a live report for you at the top of the hour. mitchmo? man, we had a lot of good times in this baby. what's your dad want for it? ..like a hundred and fifty grand, two hundred if they want that tape deck. you're not going to tell your dad about the time my hamster had babies in the backseat, are you?! that's just normal wear and tear, dude. (vo) subaru has the highest resale value of any brand... ...according to kelley blue book ...and mitch. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.
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joining world leaders in germany talking tough issues threatening our global security. >> plus, get a look at these two men, convicted killers who broke out of a prison. i'm talking shaw shank style. it has residents worried, police and also new york's governor. >> these are two dangerous individuals. one was incarcerated for killing a sheriff so these are dangerous people. >> we are so grateful to have your company. thanks for being with us. i'm christi paul. >> and i'm victor blackwell. good sunday to you. we're starting with the manhunt going on on the ground and from the air in upstate new york. police are looking for these two inmates who pulled off a daring and elaborate escape that sounded like a plot from the movie, and both men broke out of the clinton correctional facility about 25 miles from the canadian border. now police are telling people who live in that area to stay vigilant, lock t
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