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still no plan. president obama admits his strategy against isis remains incomplete after nine months of fighting. who's to blame? punishing putin. the u.s. and its allies threaten russia's president with more sanctions accusing him of continuing aggression in ukraine. will putin lash out instead of backing down? great escape. as mayive manhunt under way for two vicious murderers who could be anywhere nearly three days after their daring prils seven escape. tonight, new information about a possible accomplice on the inside. the tsa fails again. the agency in charge of airport security misses dozens of employees on terror watch lists, allowing them to work in secure areas. how are the red flags missed? we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >> cnn breaking news. >> new information about the
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woman who's being questioned today as a possible accomplice of the daring prison break in new york state. an official tells cnn she's a prison employee who worked with the two escaped murderers day tailoring clothing and knew them well. we're following the 24/7 manhunt for the convicts who used power tools to cut through the walls of their cells andfully through a maze of underground pipes. a startling admission by president obama about the u.s. war against isis. speaking at the g7 summit he acknowledged he doesn't have a complete strategy for training iraqi forces to fight the terrorists. i'll talk about that and more with senator chris murphy a member of the senate foreign relations committee. our correspondents and analysts are also standing by as we cover all the news breaking now. first let's go to our senior white house correspondent at the site of the g7 summit in europe. so what happened, jim?
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>> reporter: president obama acknowledged more than nine months into the battle against isis he is retooling his approach for defeating the terrorist group after a quick trip to the spectacular ba vavian at s to huddle with other world leaders gathered here. the president revealed he is readvicing what has been the cornerstone of his strategy training iraqi forces to fight isis militants on the ground. in a remark the president's critics seized on mr. obama said he is still in search of what he called a complete strategy for training. here's what he had to say. >> we don't yet have a complete strategy because it requires commitments on the part of the iraqis as well about how recruit recruitment takes place, how that training takes place. so the details of that are not yet worked out. >> now the president admitted that even as the pentagon is drawing up a plan to boost training for iraqi troops the government in baghdad is having trouble finding new fighters. and we should point out republican critics are pouncing
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on the president's remarks. house homeland security chairman michael mccall said what was surprising today was that the president admitted he didn't have a strategy and the remarks are a reminder of what the president said nine months ago. wolf you'll remember them well. that was when he said he did not have a strategy for dealing with isis in syria. >> there was an awkward moment during the summit the leaders gathering there with the iraqi prime minister haider al abauddi. he came next to the president, sat down. pick up what happened there. >> reporter: right, it was strange. an iraqi prime minister haider al abauddi, traveled to the alps to ask the world leaders for more military assistance. there was this awkward moment earlier today when it seemed he could not get the president's attention. the president was apparently deeply engrossed in his conversation with other leaders at this summit and did not realize that the iraqi prime minister was right behind him. i think we should point out, this does not appear to be a snub. abadi is the man the president wanted as prime minister of iraq
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and later the president told prime minister abadi during their bilateral meeting that more support is coming for the iraqis and he pledged that isis will be defeated. but no question about it it was a strange moment wolf. >> certainly was. jim, thank you. let's get to another dangerous thorn in the president's side as he met with the g7 at lies. that would be russian liter vladimir putin. the president delivered new warnings about putin's meddling in the bloody warfare in eastern ukraine, although so far the threats, the sanctions, they haven't ended the fighting yet by any means. let's bring in our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto, he's got more on what's going on. >> there's the talk of possibility of new sanctions but this summit of g7 leaders produced no new penalties or new policy against russia. the president made clear the new possible sanctions he mentioned are still being discussed. just at the technical level. western leaders have made no political decision to implement them. this is what a cease-fire looks like on the ground in eastern
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ukraine. russian-backed forces in close combat with the ukrainian army. cracks in the minsk agreement designed to end the fighting. today g7 allies reiterated their unity in defense of kiev. president obama warning of possible new penalties on moscow. >> the g7 is making it clear that if necessary, we stand ready to impose additional significant sanctions gilbert arenas russia. we will continue to seek a diplomatic solution. >> reporter: any diplomatic resolution remains hampered by diametrically opposed facts on the ground. this weekend, russian president vladimir putin insisted the west has nothing to fear of russia. and once again denied any russian troops inside ukraine. today president obama countered. >> as we've seen again in recent days russian forces continue to operate in eastern ukraine, violating ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity. this is now the second year in a
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row that the g7 has met without russia. another example of russia's isolation. >> reporter: it is also the second year of russia's occupation of crimea and parts of eastern ukraine. raising the question is the west's policy failing? >> the sanctions have had a wigbig impact on the russian academy but it hasn't changed putin's cat includes. we can't rely on sanctions alone. >> reporter: u.s. troops are training ukrainian military in western ukraine. many observers fear russian attempts to fray the western coalition. uninvited to the g7 summit president putin will travel to italy this week to meet prime minister mateo rensy, the only g7 leader silent in criticism of moscow at the summit. and after secretary of state john kerry met with putin in sochi last month, some are even questioning american resolve. so let's look at the map to see what effect the west's policy
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has had on russia's operations in eastern ukraine in the last year. this is august of 2014. the red areas here controlled by russia. down here at the black sea as well. ukraine still controlling the green areas of the border with russia. let's fast forward ten months to today. russia's controlled areas now expanding here. connecting those areas down to the black sea. and these are russian forces inside ukraine. this is about where m-817 went down last year. russia expanding its influence in the region. no one talks about crimea anymore but crimea has also been under control now for more than a year. the president talks a lot about raising costs on the russian economy. that is definitely happening. the calculus on the ground though has not changed. in fact it's gotten worse. >> so basically, what the president says all the pain that the russian economy has endured, certainly hasn't been translated into any real action as far as ukraine is concerned. >> no no real action on the ground no change in the map. the map has gotten worse. not just russian-controlled
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areas but the parts of the border that used to be controlled by ukraine, now controlled by russia. makes it a lot easier to get russian weapons across the border and back and forth. >> jim sciutto, thanks very much. i want to get to other breaking news. authorities are questioning a woman who worked at a prison in upstate new york where a pair of murderers pull off a daring escape. let's get some more now. our national correspondent jason carroll is on the scene in upstate new york. not far from the canadian border. are what is the very latest as far as this woman is concerned, jason? >> she's definitely a person of concern. this is a woman who has been questioned by authorities. she worked very closely with richard matt and david sweat, knew them very well worked with them tailoring clothes inside the prison. unclear what type of help she may have provided to these two men. but what is clear to investigators, wolf is that these men at the very least had help from the inside.
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tonight, a female press soonison worker is being questioned as an accomplice with the "shawshank redemption" style escape of two murderers from an upstate new york maximum security prison. >> they needed equipment they wouldn't have had. they had to have the assistance of someone. >> reporter: a massive manhunt is under way for the escapees. >> these are dangerous people. and they're nothing to be trifled with. >> reporter: 35-year-old david sweat serving life without parole for the killing of a police officer in 2002. and his accomplice 49-year-old richard matt who is serving 25 years to life for beating, killing, and dismembering his boss. new york governor andrew cuomo toured the escape route discovered around 5:30 saturday morning after stuffing makeshift dummies into their beds so guards thought they were sleeping. the inmates apparently got access to power tools to cut a hole in their cell. >> must have kept you awake.
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>> reporter: cutting through solid steel they exited onto a catwalk, from the catwalk they shimmied down a tunnel below. once there they broke through a 24-inch-thick brick wall. then cut through a 24-inch steel pipe which they crawled through. they cut another hole into the city sewer. when they reached a manhole outside the prison wall they cut through its steel lock and chain. finally disappearing into the neighborhood about a block away from the prison. but not before leaving behind this post-it note with the message "have a nice day." both these men were actually housed in the so-called honor block. this is a place inside the prison where inmates who have good behavior are allowed to be housed. they have extra resources inside this particular part of the prison. they have access to washers and dryers tv privileges. because these two men worked with this woman tailoring clothes, because they had access to washers and dryers
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investigators have to work on the theory that once they were on the outside, they probably changed their clothes and changed their appearances. >> they presumably could get away. how's the community over there in upstate new york reacting to all of this? >> reporter: well i spoke to one woman just earlier this afternoon. caught her as she was getting her baby and putting him back inside the house. and she said her house was searched on friday, excuse me on saturday searched her garage searched her home as well. investigators came by. and i asked her, do you feel safe? do you feel unsafe? and she said, a lot of people thought we were crazy moving so close to a prison she said i actually feel safer now than i did before because so many people have been by here so many law enforcement in the area. she does not believe these two men are in the area at this point. she says she feels safer now than before, but still very tense for a lot of other people who are here in this community. >> i can only imagine. thanks very much jason carroll. let's bring in a former fbi assistant director tom fuentes,
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our cnn law enforcement analyst, along with cedric alexander, national organization of black law enforcement executives also a cnn law enforcement analyst. matthew horace a former atf special agent in charge. guys thanks very much for joining us. matthew, how worried should the community there in upstate new york be right now? >> well i think they should be very worried on several levels. number one, this was a failure and a compromise in a security system on so many different levels. at the strategic level, prison management they're supposed to be policies in the place to avoid this. at the tactical level. what guard or what employee or what contractor was involved? at tf i'm sure at fbi, we consider these people to be the worst of the worst. so the community should be concerned about their escape and also if this can happen in the future. >> you have no doubt these two murderers, these prisoners, had outside help? >> this was an inside job and an outside job. how did they get information about the architecture of the prison and where did they go and who took them where once they
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got out? >> do you agree? >> completely. i think because they had to have help with getting the tools and getting the layout of the underground part of that prison. and then on the outside, you don't see just a sudden escape where they run out the door and they're in the woods. this looks like it was planned. they had somebody pick them up probably bring money, a vehicle clothing all set. and that's why by tying this missing escape was discovered in the morning they could have been halfway to chicago, they could have been in canada they could be halfway to mexico. they had a long time for a head start. >> because they got these power tools in their cells, battery operated power tools. that's not an easy thing to do in a maximum security prison tom. >> no that's true. we don't know how they got that. so you have this major investigation at the prison. how did this happen? internally who did what at the prison in terms of employees and contractors? but as importantly, if not more important right now, is what's going on on the outside?
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because every member of the public that might come across them is in danger. >> and matthew, i actually want to go to said brickcedric how close this prison is to canada, they could have snuck across that border? >> very easily. certainly within a short amount of time too. if you look at the well execution of this plan it has all appearances to be very well planned and executed. to be able to have the schematics it also appears of that prison to be able to move through walls and up and down the interior to a main street. it wouldn't surprise any of us i don't think if there was a car or some vehicle waiting to take them wherever they needed to go. and also would have access to give them what they need to take off from there. so they very well could be in canada. they could be anywhere on the face of the planet to be quite honest with you in the amount of time that they've been gone. i'm more than confident, however that new york state police and all the federal agencies that are involved they're going to find these guise.
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it's just a matter of time. >> hopefully when they find them before these guys do any more awful, awful things. i want towel of a you to stand by. we're getting more information into "the situation room" right now on what's going on. much more on this escape from prison when we come back.
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we're learning more about the two killers who escaped from a prison in upstate new york including their violent and disturbing criminal records. our experts are standing by. let's go to brian todd. what are you learning? >> tonight, very disturbing new details about these two men. one detective who worked on a murder case involving richard matt told cnn he would not be surprised if matt was more involved in the escape than david sweat. richard matt 49 years old, serving 25 years to life convicted of kidnapping and beating a man to death. his front teeth are metal. the result of getting his teeth knocked out by prison guards in mexico. he's got distinguishing tattoos. a marine insignia logo on his right shoulder, heart-shaped tattoos on his left shoulder and chest. david sweat, here's what we
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know. 35 years old, serving life without parole convicted of first degree murder in the 2002 killing of kevin tarsia a sheriff's deputy in broom county, new york. we have distinguishing tattoos for david sweat. he's got the one saying "rebel" on his left arm and the letters "ifb" on his right hand. going back to richard matt he's a very interesting case. he's considered maybe the more vicious, the more violent of the two. detectives who have worked on his cases have had very interesting things to say about him. one of themd he's seen him break his own collarbone and not seek medical treatment that he's basically impervious to pain and he really is a psychotic. so his history especially, according to the detectives who worked on that murder case that he was convicted in that he's serving this sentence for, this 1997 murder case say that he is especially a dangerous man. >> which raises the question are those detectives who worked on these two men's cases
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possibly in danger tonight? >> they could be. one of the detectives told me over the phone he was contacted by police to let them know that richard matt had escaped. another detective who worked on that same 1997 murder case told the "new york times" he is prepared to defend himself if richard matt comes after him. we talked to arnett gaston former chief of rikers island that prison notorious prison in new york he said that a lot of the time when these guys get out it's payback they want they want to go after the guys who put them there. so the detectives who worked on that case could be in some danger tonight. >> all right, thanks very much brian todd for that. let's bring back our experts to discuss all these new developments. cedric alexander, quickly to you. we're being seen right now throughout the united states canada mexico. if somebody out there suspects that they're spotting -- they've spotted one or both of these convicted killers, what should they do? >> immediately, immediately
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wolf they need to get on the phone to their local authorities, whether in this country or abroad, and notify them and tell them they think they may have identified and they think these subjects may be within their sights. the sooner we're able to get them off the streets wherever they may happen to be the better for everyone that's involved. >> matthew, people should not approach these two guys by any means, right? >> under no circumstances should people like this be approached. dial 911. tell them what you think you see. as a matter of fact, with these kind of individuals, i'd be careful even looking at them twice. because you've got to think, they're fugitives from justice, they know that we're looking at for them they're paying attention to everyone around them. i'd be really concerned that they need to commit other crimes to sustain their run. >> because these two guys tom fuentes, and you've dealt with psychotic killers like this. even if they suspect someone is looking awkwardly toward them they may simply go ahead and kill them. >> yeah very easily could, wolf. and what you have to wonder about here is how well planned the escape part was once they
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were out of prison. if they end up needing wheels they won't hesitate to carjack somebody and kill them or do a home invasion where they could get cash weapons, and the vehicle, killing a family in the process wouldn't faze them in the least. >> you've got to assume if these guys tom, could get power tools to go in there and break through concrete break through steel, somebody must have been waiting on the outside with civilian clothes, a vehicle money, credit cards, or whatever to drive away. >> you would assume that and you wonder if there isn't more than one somebody. if they split up and had separate people taking care of each of them taking them in different directions possibly. still, a the some point, if they're encountered in a public situation, situation, they're like cornered rats you do not want to deal with it. >> what about the source telling cnn a female employee at the prison is being questioned as a possible accomplice? she knew both of these inmates supposedly according to officials, very well.
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do you think there's some way this individual, assuming this individual may know something, would speak out? what would the authorities do to convince this individual this woman, to talk shall we say, assuming she was involved and we have no reason to believe she wasn't involved although we have learned she's being questioned. >> assuming that she is involved they're going to go sthu a series of questions with her based on whatever information that they have. and it's no doubt in my mind in that interview with her they're going to make some determination whether she is mildly involved in this or she's very much involved in it. but whatever the case may happen to be it's going to be through that interrogation process with her. there's going to make some determination, whether she's involved it could be others involved as well too that may be internal and/or external to that institution there. but it is very clear and evident, i think, to all of us here wolf, that there's others involved in this case. and it's hard to overlook the fact that someone inside that
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prison very well may be involved as well too. >> the priority matthew, right now is to find these two guys before they can do any more damage kill anyone else in the process. then after that to learn some lessons. the first time in 170 years that this maximum security prison that someone has broken out of this prison. they've got to learn what happened to make sure it never happens again. >> like everything else in law enforcement and security we've got to develop best practices. go back and examine our strengths and weaknesses. again, this was a failure, a security failure, on so many different levels. i'm sure that contractors will be brought in specialists, to examine how this happened when it happened and to try to make sure that it can't happen again. >> if it can happen at this facility this prison it could happen anywhere. >> it could. i'd like to know about the training and staffing at that prison. so many law enforcement and corrections institutions have had severe budget cuts the last five ten years. have they had a severe cut in their staffing where they can't do the bed checks as diligently
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as they used to? that's what i'd want to know. what is the procedure at that prison? do they have enough staff to actually maintain that kind of security? >> lots of lessons they're going to have to learn from this experience. let's hope they find these guys quickly. just ahead, do u.s. intelligence officials know where the leader of isis is hiding out right now? we're getting new details about the the new information learned during a daring raid by u.s. commandos. the center of foreign relations committee member senator chris murphy standing by live taking our questions. dozens of people on terror watch lists get this they have been cleared to work in secure areas of airports. dozens of people on terror watch lists. they are working at airports. a government watchdog reveals new failures at the tsa. we'll have details. to 50% on ink, so print all you want and never run out. right now, buy an eligible printer and get three months of free ink with hp instant ink.
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new details about that daring u.s. commando raid that took out a key isis leader in syria, abah sigh 87. the raid proguided a wealth of intelligence information. the u.s. also getting intelligence about the whereabouts of the top leader of isis al baghdadi. let's bring in our chief national security correspondent, jim sciutto. >> cnn has learned the u.s. had intelligence indicating possible locations of the isis leader. several possible locations over
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the last several months. this u.s. official telling barbara starr but that information was too late too vague, or incomplete to allow a successful air strike and that's due in part to the lack of realtime intelligence from operatives on the ground. that's been a black hole in syria for some time which is human intelligence on the ground there. we're easily learning abu al baghdadi is changing the way he operates as we hear of isis leaders, staying in populated areas because he knows the u.s. will not strike there for the risk of civilian casualties. we are told he is very smart, he knows we are watching. this is a consistent thing. you're hearing this about senior leadership and lower-level operatives changing the way they communicate, using encrypted devices, they know that's an easy way for the u.s.-led coalition to zero in on them. >> they're communicating with old school ways as well. >> their wives. this is partly the conclusion of the raid conducted last month by
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the u.s. delta force that kill the senior isis leader, awoo sigh saef. they're learning a lot of information that still has to be vetted. it looks like they are using their wives in part again to adjust to u.s. surveillance because they feel they are less under surveillance. it reminds me covering paris, the "charlie hebdo" attacks, the brothers were apparently using their wives to communicate with each other because they thought that would be outside the reach of french intelligence. >> they were using their wives' cell phones. >> exactly. >> listed in their wives' names. we don't know if the wives were texting each other or the husbands were using the wives' cell phones to text. >> or using them as middle men, or women, to transmit those messages. >> jim sciutto, thanks very much. let's get more now. a key member of the foreign relations committee, chris murphy he's a democrat from connecticut. senator, thanks very much for joining us. what do you make of the president's comments today that
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the u.s. still has an incomplete strategy in dealing with the training and arming of the iraqi military? >> well i mean let's give a little context here. we spent ten years in iraq trying to train up iraqi forces to be able to defend themselves. and they essentially fled and ran when they were confronted by isis. so we've had a long-term problem in having a legitimate capable partner on the ground in iraq. so i don't think it's speaking out of school for the president to admit that without an iraqi military that is able to seriously confront isis willing to do it in places like ramadi and elsewhere, that we don't have a strategy that can effectively work on the ground. nobody that i represent in connecticut wants to put another 100,000 u.s. troops in there so we ultimately need the iraqis maybe with some partners in the region to take control of their military future. but right now, there's a lot of holes in the iraqi defenses. that's just the truth. >> because the u.s. spent a decade arming and training and
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spending hundreds of billions of dollars training that iraqi military. didn't exactly work out so great. do you have any confidence at all in the iraqi military right now, which is clearly shia-led? >> so i think you've hit the nail on the head here. ultimately you need for the new leader in baghdad to reach out to sunni constituencies to build up a component of the military that is none have shia. in ramadi they did not stand up a sunni military and thus they had no real way to defend that city. you're not going to defend a city of sunnis with a shia military or with a shia-iranian force. that is the other risk here. if we don't reach out and stand up sunni in the iraqi military we're going to be relying on iran to do our fighting there. which is frankly almost more disastrous in the long run than any of the options we're contemplating now. so we've got to play this hard with the iraqis and tell them
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we're not going to stake around for the next 12 24 months if they're not willing to make their military equal parts shia and sunni. >> you've been working together with others for a long time now to get formal legislation authorizing the use of u.s. military force in this war against isis. based on my latest check, no legislation really has been passed nothing has been sent to the president to sign into law. although he says he would sign something. what's the delay? >> this is hard and a lot of my colleagues are scared of getting into details how we authorize a comprehensive strategy against isis. but it's our responsibility our constitution at obligation as a congress, to tee clair war. and we are at war with isis. it is right now an extra-constitutional war. it has not been authorized by congress. this enemy has not been named by congress. we should get in the game. hopefully later this week in the foreign relations committee we're going to have the opportunity to debate an
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authorization of military force. there are many of us who want conditions on that authorization, specifically a prohibition on the use of ground forces. president obama has said he's not going to put in tens of thousands of ground troops. i believe him. but if you listen to the republican presidential candidates like jeb bush and marco rubio, they sound like they're willing to put in major u.s. combat troops on the ground. if we authorize this war, then we should do it in a way that abides by everything that we've learn the over the last decade. keep american ground forces out of the middle east. >> as you know the president says he's willing to entertain new legislation, but he says he really doesn't need it. the legislation that passed after 9/11 that's good enough for him. you disagree with him on that? >> yeah i do disagree with the president on this. you know isis is certainly a follow-on organization from al qaeda. but they very specifically disavowed any relationship with al qaeda. and they are formally two separate organizations. and so it is just -- i don't
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think it really makes sense that you can use the war we declared against al qaeda to also cover isis. if you use that logic, then essentially any terrorist group that has any historical connection with osama bin laden and his main organizers would be covered by that 2001 authorization. we've got to step and up do our job here. that's what we got elected to do. it shouldn't just be up to the executives to decide when we go to war. i support what the president is doing here but i think my constituents should have a say in how this war is conducted. >> do you agree with defense secretary ash carter the iraqi military so far in ramadi, mosul mosul, don't have a will to fight? >> well very clearly the iraqi military broke down and fled as isis started to take control of the northern parts of that country. and al anbar province you saw some of the same thing happen. i understand that for the defense secretary to call out the iraqi military looks
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somewhat impolitic. but those of us in congress i think can be a little bit less diplomatic and the reality is is that the iraqi military has shown an unwillingness to stand up and fight. and that is really concerning. as i said at the outset we spent ten years training the iraqis. and they weren't capable of fighting. so a lot of us are skeptical of our ability to retrain them over the course of a series of months. they ultimately have to want to do this for themselves and they're not going to do that until they bring in the sunni population to defend themselves rather than just having shia and iranian militia groups fight to protect the sunni population. >> senator chris murphy of connecticut, thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks wolf. a new report reveals major security lapses at the tsa. allowing aviation workers get this who themselves are on a terror watch list to stay on the job and operate in secure areas. plus caitlin jenner has been in the news in a big way since
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tonight, another alarming failure by the agency in charge of airport security. new government report reveals
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the tsa did not identify dozens dozens of aviation workers on terror watch lists allowing them to work in secure areas. our aviation correspondent renee marsh is joining us now. what's going on over here renee? >> tonight t.sa is under the microscope again. this time the agency's vetting process is being scrutinized after it missed the fact multiple airport workers had links to terrorism. aviation workers with terror connections working at u.s. airports. the tsa in charge of vetting these employees green lighted at least 73 people with links to terrorism. >> these are airport workers. so this really speaks to the issue of the insider threat. tsa's primary way to guard against that is to make sure these background checks are complete and they're exhaustive. and what this report says is they're not complete nor are they exhaustive. >> reporter: according to a department of homeland security
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inspector general report the slipup is a potential national security risk even the tsa acknowledges. "the individuals were cleared for access to secured airport areas despite representing a potential transportation security threat. they worked for major airlines where airport vendors and other employees with unescorted access to commercial planes the tarmac tarmac and luggage. tsa does not have complete access to every agency's terror watch list. >> this is a classic example of them not working together as they should. and so who's to blame? tsa and dhs are really at lead here. >> reporter: the fear airport workers with terror links could facilitate an insider attack. in a cnn investigation, drew griffin uncovered employees with access to airplanes and tarmacs were not screened daily. although the agency says it ramped up random screening after a baggage handler was caught
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smuggling guns onto commercial planes in atlanta. scrutiny over tsa's vetting process comes after embarrassing news the agency's officers failed to detect weapons and fake explosives almost every time undercover teams put them to the test. >> it points to a larger problem that tsa has in making sure that their operations are running smoothly. and it comes from leadership. and not having a leader in place for some time now i think has been detrimental to the agency. >> other problems the inspector general found tsa was less effective in making sure aviation workers have not committed crimes that would disqualify them from having access to secure parts of the airport, and thousands of records used to vet these employees were incomplete or inaccurate. tsa says they are working to fix all of these issues. wolf despite the weaknesses the report highlights the report
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also says the vetting process is generally effective in detecting links to terrorism. >> generally effective not good enough. it's got to be perfectly effective to deal in a sensitive area like this. thanks very much for that report. just ahead, a republican rolls out the red carpet for caitlin jenner welcoming her into the gop as her "vanity fair" cover story hits the newsstands. could this become a presidential campaign issue? first, a preview of cnn's original series "the '70s." ♪ >> the '70s awakened us and polarized us. >> the 1970s saw the development of terrorism. >> with bombshell after bombshell after bombshell. >> the watergate scandal broke wide open today. >> i think the 1970s i think more. more hair more misbehavior. the cultural revolution just kind of exploded.
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tonight, president obama is second guessing the united states supreme court while a
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republican presidential candidate is welcoming caitlyn jenner into the republican party. let's talk about this with gloria bore ger and ron brown steen. the president said the supreme court should have never even accepted this important case they have to decide between now and the end of the month involving the future of very critical measure in the obamacare program. >> look there are a lot of advocates of the law. not only advocates who were surprised that took this case up. because until the theory was developed by the cato institute and other groups there was no one involved in the legislation who had ever really advanced this idea that it was intended to deny the subsidyies to states that use the federal exchange. there was a recent -- a terrific reconstruction in "the new york times" who olympia snow said it was never part of our conversation at any point to make the distinction that is the heart of the lawsuit. i think a lot of people were
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surred. he is he needs one justice to agree or there's a big hole. >> since when does a conservative court decide that it's going to decide the intent of congressional legislation? that's not their job. you know i think that the president was stunned about it because he had a reason to be. if there was any confusion in congress let congress figure it out. why is this up to the court? >> let's talk about the race for the white house on the republican side. scott walker like some other republican presidential candidates now leaving open the possibility sending more troops into iraq, combat troops boots on ground. how is this going to play in a general election? >> i think it does -- i think iraq does play in a general election and i think it's tricky for both sides. scott walker in this case is basically saying i'm not going to limit myself. i'm not go -- this is something we have heard from republicans over the years. i'm not going to telegraph a
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timetable and say when i might go out or what i will or won't do. there's that. but this is really a tricky issue. because i think americans want something to be dobne about isis. they want something done. they don't want a full-scale reinvasion. they are open to having some american troops there, trainers and advisors. on the democratic side i think what democrats would want to say is the u.s. shouldn't have been there in the first place. hillary clinton, while she said it was a mistake, she can't -- >> how important is iraq in this race? >> very important. the more the president comes out and says as did he today that there's no strategy to combat isis the more republicans are going to say, you know what we have got a strategy. walker is not the furtherest to the right. you have lindsey graham saying he would send 10,000 combat troops. i think all the republicans are trying to position themselves in a way where they can say actually we have a way to deal
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with it. >> what makes is complicated is most americans believe the obama strategy have failed. but they believe the bush strategy on iraq failed. the trump card for democrats is to say, do you really want to go back to that? when you polled on that when asked whose fault was iraq, it was divided by bush and obama. >> let me get your thoughts dana bash our chief congressional correspondent interviewed lindsey graham asked about caitlyn jenner. listen to this exchange. >> if caitlyn jenner wants to be safe and have a prosperous economy, vote for me. i'm into addition. i haven't walked in her shoes. i don't have all the answers to the mysteries of life. i can only imagine the torment that bruce jenner went through. i hope she has found peace. i'm a pro-life traditional
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marriage kind of guy. but i'm running to be president of the united states. if caitlyn jenner wants to be a republican, she is welcome in my party. >> what do you think? >> coming from lindsey graham who is kind of a maverick unpredictable, understands the republican party has to grow in its appeal to younger voters all kinds of voters it didn't really surprise me. i think he is somebody who has always said republicans have to learn how to talk to women better. they have to learn how to broaden out. >> addition. >> he needs to -- >> that was striking how forthrightly he said that. the biggest hurdle facing republicans is cultural affinity and the sense that more the democrats have more groups that they share cultural values. a real challenge for republicans. >> it just shows that he is saying i think what a lot of people are saying what a lot of republicans believe, they need to broaden certainly their
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acceptance of the lgbt community. >> this is a senator from conservative south carolina. >> we have to leave it. we will continue these conversations. that's it for me. erin burnett out front starts right now. breaking news. an international man hupthunt under way for two killers. they staged a prison break you thought you would only see in the movies. they question an employee that could have helped them get out. a police officer pulls his gun at kids at a pool party. a man who was there saw the whole thing and has a strong point you view. we have video, isis iraqi troops and a fire fight. our correspondent there under fire. let's go "out front." good