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mr. prime minister. good luck to you and the people of ukraine. >> thanks to the american people thank you. >> thank you for joining us. don't leave yet. that's it for me. thanks for watching. if you want to tweet me go ahead and tweet me @wolf blitzer. erin "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" tonight, authorities zeroing in on one town a prison employee's cell phone was used to call people connected to one of the killers plus more breaking news the officer who pulled his gun on unarmed teens in texas resigning minutes ago. that breaking news and the teen who hosted the pool party is out front and also breaking at this hour word the president may send as many as 1,000 more american troops to fight isis. does he have a strategy? let's go "outfront".."
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good evening. i'm erin burnett and out front tonight, we begin with breaking news police swarming a town in upstate new york tonight after a possible sighting of two convicted killers on the run. as night falls, there are fears that the two could be trying to make a move authorities are scouring farms scouring fields. i mean look at this rural area. you can see that line of officers. they have right now focused around a small town called ded willosborrow new york. they crawled through pipes and had the this dramatic breakout. as you can see, just 35, 40 miles away police received more than 300 tips since the escape but their focus tonight on a prison employee and whether she may have helped the two. investigators are questioning joyce mitchell. she worked in the taylor shop and worked closely with matt and
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sweat and said to have known both men well a. source telling cnn mitchell's cell phone was used to call several people connected to richard matt. that could be crucial and authorities are saying could she have helped them get power tools? bewe we begin in new york with jason and i mean, it's a rural area, but they are, we just saw the lines of police in the field. how confident are they they could be zeroing in on the men? >> reporter: well this was serious enough erin that early on there were a number of law enforcement on the ground and not just on the ground but in the air, as well but after an exhaustive search that lasted for several hours, still no sign of the escaped inmates. heavily-armed police scouring farms and fields as they search
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the small town of willsborro new york as two men were spotted and as a car approached, the two took off. it's 35 miles southeast of where richard matt and sweat staged the daring prison break four days ago. a source says it appears the two did not have a get away car waiting for them and may have been traveling on foot. but investigators do believe they had help and they have questioned joyce mitchell an employee that worked with the men in the prison's taylor shop. nbc news reports a day after the escape mitchell checked herself into a hospital complaining of a case of nerves. mitchell's son defending her telling the network his mother is not going to risk her life or other people's lives to help them escape. they may have been spot add short time after crawling out of a manhole a block from the prison wall. abc news spoke to one couple that says they think they ran into matt and sweat about a half hour after midnight early
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saturday morning. >> the one guy that had a buzz cut, he had a guitar case on his back. >> reporter: a guitar case? >> guitar case. >> reporter: they challenged the strangeers. >> i look at them and ask what the heck are you doing in my yard? get out of here. he was like sorry, i didn't know where i was. i'm on the wrong street. >> a former prison worker talked about how hard it would be to navigate inside the 170-year-old prison. >> so many tunnels and all the at theattics all the cat walks, it's a big maze. >> they used that maze. >> they used the maze. they know exactly where to go. they had help. >> reporter: law enforcement will also be checking security cameras of some of the local residents here and the local businesses, as well erin but it seems as if it's going to be another restless night for so
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many people who live here in the rural parts. >> i would imagine, so concerned if they come up just pop into their house, whether they could hurt someone else. jason carroll, thank you very much and as i mentioned, they are zooming in on a female prison employee that may have provided assistance. her name is joyce mitchell. her cell phone directly links her to one of the convicted killers. debra just broke the this news. deb, this is a pretty significant what they found on her cell phone that you just learned. >> well, it's interesting. according to law enforcement, the phone was used to call several people friends and associates known to richard matt but it is not known when those calls were made or who actually made those calls. now, her son toby mitchell was interviewed by nbc, and he told the reporter quote when threatened or at risk you do a lot of things to protect your family however, toby mitchell would not say and did not know whether his mother had been
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threatened because he said it was out of character that she would do something like this. we do know that these two men had a very elaborate escape plan but think about it no one was waiting for them when they got out, and that's why law enforcement sources say that they are on foot. they believe they are on foot. it is raining, and this may not be the way they thought it would work out once they did make the breakout erin. >> incredible you think they could have planned for months at the least to not have a plan when you get on the outside. it sort of looks like the that might be the case right now. if they are, if we see this go down. >> if those calls were made during in the weeks or months before they did make the escape perhaps they expected somebody to be waiting there. this is part of this and part of the investigation, as well. who was there or did not show up? >> thank you very much. "outfront" two men with a lot of experience with manhunts a retired u.s. marshal and a
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retired nypd detective sergeant. joe, let me start with you this the point that deb is making there were calls. they don't know who made them but that something so meticulously planned, which this clearly was, okay? there is no question about it to get the tools to cut through and know how to climb through and know where the manhole is at the same time they don't appear at this point to have had a plan on the other end. >> yeah what which is amazing. i mean this is an introit plan to say we're just going to go out and out of a manhole and run for our lives at that point? it doesn't make sense. i think something severely went wrong with their plan. >> something went wrong with the plan but you think, we saw jason carroll in the rural area but police lining the fields. they are zeroing in, the men may be in this place. this may go down in the next hours, if they are there. you think they are? >> i think they are. let's put it this way, a little note they left them that was
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like taunting them. >> have a nice day. >> taunting the cops and they probably figured the cops will think we went to canada so let's heard towards vermont. the water, scent off you and dogs are coming after them so they can get across the river or get a boat in the river and take it down. this is something where they probably figured hey we had a map before, this is water, let's start making our way that way. >> what do you think about the idea they didn't seem, if they did have a plan someone may not have shown up right? so that would mean they could be on foot. this would mean this location willsboro may indeed be where they are. what do you think? >> that's exactly correct. i mean to plan something like that and then not do the actual plan to get away from the facility seems kind of short-sided on their part obviously, but very well could have happened that they did have a plan and that the individual backed out at the last minute. this happens in several escapes, an inmate won't go along, he's
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done the planning and helped them get out but this is entering the, kind of a third phase of the investigation, the first part being the manhunt, which we see right now on tv as all those officers are lined up and out there going through the woods almost hand to hand and the second part of the investigation of usually is more of the long-term investigation and i hear now with the phone calls, they are tracking communications and looking at the family. >> right. >> they are looking for the long-term investigation if it goes beyond another couple of days and obviously, the third phase is how did they get out? >> right, arthur what do you think in terms if they are in this town willsboro tonight, if they are able to find them how does this go down from there? you heard that couple they had a guitar case who knows what was in it. is the goal to put them back in jail? how does it play out tonight if you have a, if there is an altercation, shootout? >> i mean if there is an alter case of usually, law enforcement is going to defend
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themselves and others. we don't know what they have inside that guitar case. with a heinous crimes these individuals committed to get where they were in the first place, they are, we have to consider them armed and dangerous. now you got to the also remember they have been out for four days and if they have been walking through the woods they have to be completely drained at this point. they will either act like a cornered animal and in this case i think it probably with this background or they are just going to give up and say hey, i'm tired, i'm whipped, that's it, i'm done. >> how do you think this will go down? he points out almost four days might not have money, might not have had food water, as well as being psychologically in distress. >> right, it's probably not going to go down peacefully. they have a very bad become ground. i mean between torture and dismemberment and one killed a sheriff's deputy shot him 15 times or so. if you notice there is not a lot of convenience stores to get
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something to eat. very rural area in the middle of the forecast so they are probably hungry probably lack water, let's put it this way, they have a short supply chain left if anything. >> all right. thank you both very much as we are watching this town of willsboro where police are focused to see if there is a major break in the manhunt tonight. >> "outfront" next how could the convicted killers have done it slicing through steel pipes with loud power tools and not been heard? we went today to reenact the whole thing and show you, that's next. breaking news the officers at the center of this controversial video has resigned. resigned not been fired, is that enough? we'll ask the teen who hosted the pool party and the baltimore prosecutor asking police to target the very streets where freddy gray was arrested. she said go there and stop the drugs. they did this happened. should she be removed from this case?
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breaking news zeroing in a massive manhunt underway at this moment in a small town they are hunting down the two convicted killers that escaped. this comes as we're learning the phone belonging to a female prison employee was used to call people connected to one of the killers. they were discovered missing upstate new york on saturday morning. they are still on the loose right now. investigators did investigators desperately searching in willsboro and trying to figure out how they could have used the power tools to cut their way to freedom. a stunning story. stephanie is going to show you how it was done.
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>> followknowledge of how to use tools. >> reporter: he says there is no doubt richard matt and david sweat used power tools to breakthrough the walls of their prison cells. >> it's made of steel. you need a tool to cut it. >> reporter: when you look at this picture, what tool do you think they used to cut through the wall? >> to me it looks like a cut off wheel, a grinder with a thinner wheel made to cut through steel. >> reporter: go ahead and show us what that would look like and sound like. using this grinder, it took him about a minute to cut this straight line through this steel plate. but a, i took my ear plug out to listen it's really loud. >> extremely loud. >> reporter: b, it smells like it really has a very distinct odor. do you think this is something they could get away with under those circumstances? >> somebody would really have to be trying to ignore them from happening because the smell gets on your cloths and skin so you
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have two actually wash it off. >> reporter: after cutting holes, the inmates managed to breakthrough a brick wall two-feet thick. is there any way you could bufferer the sound of these tools if you were operating them? >> perhaps maybe by laying blankets around the object and just working the tool very slowly. >> reporter: but it would be tedious? >> yes, would take a long time. >> reporter: investigators believe matt and sweat crawled 300 feet through a pipe 24 inches in diameter. >> cuts are pretty clean. >> reporter: so in the time it took you to just create that one line with the grinder, you did a circle around with the torch? >> with the torch. >> reporter: and it's so much quieter. >> quiet. >> reporter: and not as much of a small. >> not as much. >> reporter: but there is one problem, equipment. a torch requires a tank of mixed gases. >> if you break out of jail you would rather have a torch? >> absolutely.
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>> reporter: when you take a look at those images erin you can see there is a power cord there, but one thing that earn knee was -- earnie told me you can have them with battery packs but have to plug them in and those tools are more expensive. if they did use them the question is still, how did they get their hands on them and able to sneak around and get this done? these guys tell me they believe they were doing it over a lot of time maybe even months. >> wow, maybe even months. incredible. you said the key question how did they get their hands on them. let me bring in people with ideas. michael served time at the clinton correctional facility for manslaughter and released last may and joining us the new york state assemblyman with ex extensionve knowledge of the facility. you served time here and know this as few do when you're in there, how do you pull this off? how do you pull off talking to the guy next door getting the
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tools, cutting out? >> well the easy part is pulling it off. the hard part is getting the tools. the only way to get tools, there is no way in or out of that facility that doesn't go through an officer or someone so it had to have gone through somebody in the department of corrections. an inmate isn't going to have access. >> so you believe somebody on the inside had access? >> if you mail something in they drop it off in the mail room and it gets picked up from prison staff picks that up. so there is no other way. >> all right. so you just saw stephanie showing how loud it is to slice through the metal soft you've spent a lot of nights in that prison it's very loud. >> at night you think they could do it and people won't hear. >> totally. it's louder than a nightclub. booming music they play music all night long until 4:00 or 5:00 in the morning and it's so loud you have to put headphones on. >> they play music? >> the inmates do. they have something called a super boost, power boost
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something they attach to the radios and make it like an '80s boom box and it's so cloud the place literally vibrates. >> wow. because the ones with privileges can play it. you think they could have done this over time. >> yes. >> and not have been heard. >> yes. >> assemblyman, if it's possible they couldn't hear as michael said from spending the night in there, incredible how they would play the music so loudly you would think the inmates might have smelled something, figured something was going on right, and narc? >> well that's a possibility but one other thing that we have not spoken about is that there are extensive renovations going on currently at the clinton correctional facility and creates a lot of noise and that's brought in a lot of people from the outside who are not usually there, and so the question is whether or not rather than someone shipping in an object to be used like this whether or not they stole those objects from a worker's bag or
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were they smuggled in for them by somebody else. >> right. >> so if they were limiting their time to when they were doing this work to when the loud sounding of the renovations were being done it's entirely possible that no one would be able to say we heard this in contrast to hearing the other legitimate renovation it is that are on going. >> now michael, let me ask you, the woman we're hearing her cell phone was used and we don't know if that was with her knowledge or approval or not, but you were familiar with her, right? >> no, i don't know her personally. >> what do you think about her role? do you think it's possible they could have ocho-- >> i've seen it happen time and time again. it happened so many times you have to roll your eyes if it ever happens again because it's so obvious and happened it's such -- >> this is inmate's using women. >> they do and pray upon them and, you know they pray upon
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women they think are unattractive or the women think they are unattractive, low self-esteem or whatever look for those things and read 38 laws of power and those books and teaches you step by step how to pray upon people like that and these books are evil evil books. >> those are the books you read. you're talking about the guards themselves a lot of guards did not walk around. >> no and about mistaking the noise for the construction i mean unless they have construction going on in the middle of the night i don't know they might, but i don't see how you would mistake the two, but it's so loud that you wouldn't need to say that oh this is construction or whatever. >> well assemblyman, how concerned are you about this what you just heard michael saying? he said it's incredibly common inmates purposely try to build relationships with women who may look or feel unattractive to work in the prison ton get things they want that this is common? >> it's certainly a concern. i've been through the clinton correctional facility and
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visited 25 prisons in the last two years in the state of new york as my role as the chair of the committee and seen a variety of circumstances. clinton is the most dangerous of them for the inmates and has been for a long time almost no one gets paroled out of clinton. when you look at great meadow and clinton and attica these are old facilities with a greater opportunity for things to happen because they are not state of the art as in some other prisons. >> right. >> and obviously, when you have desperate people they will do desperate things. clearly, this is a dangerous situation and i certainly hope that the two men are captured quickly. >> all right. we'll see if this does indeed happen if they are in the right place tonight it could go down any moment but they could be in the wrong place. michael daniel thanks to both of you and breaking news days after this video at a texas pool party went viral, nearly 10
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breaking news the texas police officer, the one caught on camera throwing the 14-year-old girl to the ground this video seen 10 million times re resigned. that's eric casebolt that pulled his gun on other unarmed teams. moments ago the chief called casebolt's actions undefensible. >> he was out of control during the incident. i had 12 officers on the scene
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and 11 of them performed according to training. >> all right tonight we're learning this is not the first time the officer is accused of excessive force or racial profiling. nick valencia begins coverage. >> i don't care sit the [ bleep ] down. we're so frightened and pushed my head down out of nowhere and i was already about to sit down. >> reporter: 16-year-old zack says he's never more afraid than when eric casebolt pulled out a gun during a pool party. it led to casebolt's resignation. >> eric casebolt resigned from the mckinney police department. as chief, i want to say the actions by him as seen on the video of the disturbance at the community pool are indefensible. >> reporter: it started when a white resident began yelling racial comments.
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>> she said go back to your plantation and section eight housing and she slapped the girl. >> reporter: when officers responded, the chaotic scene was recorded. casebolt through a teenage girl in a bikini to the ground and pulls his gun and points it at several teens. >> what did his eyes look like? >> we were so frightened because after he came out the car, he was screaming and cursing. >> reporter: he was an instructor trainee at a self-defense and fitness club and more than ten years in law enforcement, he received in depth training on armed and unarmed self-defense. at the fitness club he's said to be a certified advance peace officer. 2008 the same year he received officer out year award, he was sued for allegedly performing an illegal body cavity search accused of using excessive force, racial profiling and sexual assault but the civil lawsuit was dismissed.
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this case is far from over. i just spoke to one outspoken resident said he launched a change.org position to seek charges against officer eric casebolt. as far as the young teenage girl wrestled to the ground family friends say she's still traumatized and the family is considering legal action. >> nick thank you very much. now i want to go out front to ms. road out front is her attorney and i appreciate both of you taking the time to be with us tonight. the breaking news, corporal eric casebolt we see him pinning your friend down he's resigning. what is your reaction? >> i'm happy that he's resigning. i feel that everyone in mckinney will feel better that he's resigning, and that i feel sorry for my friend and i hope that she can get through this and that i want her to know that
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we're here for her. >> emanuel, i have to ask you, you know the word resigning means by free will. when you resign from your job you get to keep benefits and we asked the police chief and he said he believes casebolt will keep them. he is resigning. is that fair? >> you know, the story is just breaking so i'm not familiar. just based on what you said it's interesting because the chief definitely recognizes his culpability and recognizes that he acted inappropriate that night and so you know i'm curious as to why, you know upon that recognition that his exit from the force would be by free will. i would think it would be that these actions would be of a fair basis for termination and for forefit of benefits but it's still pretty fresh. >> it's fresh. he said he believes he's going to keep it. when you hear that that the police officer may be resigning,
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but get to keep benefits that he's earned over his ten-year career does that make you angry? >> i don't feel angry. i see as it's first step i know things take time and that he things will take course. that's how i feel about it. >> now tatayna, this video at your party, 10 million people have watched it. incredible number. you said that party turned violent before officer casebolt got there. what happened? >> well basically, the two women were saying racist things and i came in and let them know that it was wrong, that's not right, you shouldn't do that you shouldn't be saying racist things you shouldn't be telling children to go back to their
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section eight homes and cursing at them. >> and these were white women saying this to your friends who were black, right? >> yes, two caucasian women saying that to my friends, african american friends. >> and i guess some people are trying to understand because when the video starts filming, obviously, you know it looks terrible what the officer did. i talked to some people who were there and say well if you saw before this all these kids climbing the gate getting into the pool doing what they shouldn't have this fight going on you might see it differently. they say the officer's actions were justified. do you see anyway that what he did was justified? >> no i don't feel as acting that way is being justified. i feel as he should have worked as the same way as his peers worked the same way they acted, i believe he could have acted the same way. he didn't have to use aggression. >> emanuel, what happens from
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here? i know you're being patient and saying let's see, this is the first step. if it turns out this was indeed a resignation, that he does keep benefits what are you going to do about that? >> well you know i'm happy to be a member of a very active bar association here in dallas, the legal association. i'm the current president of elect and our current president, we've got our national bar president pamela means who is touching down tomorrow. this is an issue that we're keenly focused on because, you know these types of things have to stop and so you're right, this is the first step but we will be working actively to make sure that the other action is taken including pursuing criminal charges. >> all right. well i appreciate both of your time tonight. thank you both for being with us as we cover that breaking news. "outfront" next a baltimore police officer talks exclusively
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breaking news a baltimore police officer speaking exclusively to cnn about the freddie gray case. and lawyers for the six officers facing charges in the 25-year-old's death are fighting back and pushing for the prosecutor marlin mosby to drop charges or take herself out of the case. her office her office directed them to crack down on drugs in the very place where freddy gray was taken into custody. miguel marquez is following story in baltimore tonight and you're at the very intersection where freddie gray was sited significant because of the news and that officer speaking out willingly to you, that is pretty incredible. >> reporter: it is all brettpretty
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incredible. freddy gray coming out of this store being spotted by police officers. he was arrested a couple blocks away there. i spoke to a lieutenant with the baltimore police today. he's also the head of one of the unions here van guard union and he runs about 18 19 20 police officers in the southern district here in baltimore and told me what his officers tell him about their worries. >> am i going to receive backup from this administration this police commissioner if someone makes a complaint and it's controversial, it may look bad on television am i going to receive backup from this administration? that's the biggest concern. >> not a good place for a police force to be. >> absolutely not. >> do you think you can get past it with this commissioner? >> i don't know. i really don't know. a lot of guys, like i said before many they feel betrayed.
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>> reporter: now i was pretty surprised at his last answer. i really expected him to say they would figure it out and get beyond it but to say openly and publicly for the first time we heard that that the commissioner that he feels betrayed by them tough to take. erin? >> it is pretty incredible. the officers, their lawyers are saying it was marlyin mosby, i want more action there, how is that? >> reporter: look in their motion today they sited a march 17th memo. this corner they said was an open aired drug market happening here. they offered up pictures pictures taken by community groups of that activity in this particular area. they also offered up in this motion to both dismiss if not dismiss then recuse her from
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this case, an e-mail sent from her office to the officers in the western district and eventually sent to officers patrolling this area. one of those officers that e-mail went to was brian rice. he was one of the officers that saw freddy gray here that day and chased him and arrested him and charged with his death. erin? >> all right. miguel marquez, thank you very much live from that intersection with that major breaking news and next this breaking news we have learned that president obama may send another 1,000 americans to fight isis that's more than 30% increase boom overnight is that a strategy and jeanne moos 29 million views online and wait until you hear her interview.
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>> breaking news, 1,000 more american troops may be heading to iraq. president obama may increase the troop level to fight isis by more than 30%. jim sciutto is out front, jim, that is one big increase. >> it is to be up from the current 3,000. it was zero about a year ago when isis first came onto the stages and swept through iraq and keep in mind this is a president who ran on the fact ending u.s. military on passion in iraq. that's one of the questions because this is the high-end of the range being recommended to the president, could be lower than that. >> could be lower than that. okay. just yesterday said a problem in iraq is we've got training capacity we don't have
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recruits. what is the point of having another 1,000 people when he makes the point to say they are not going to fight but train. there is no one to be trained? >> they need the sunnis involved in the west. the government is dominated by ren't doing that job. so you would be taking the training of the sunni tribes out of their hands and putting them into american hands. that's the question. do they have the numbers throughout who want to do this? if they do they'll open up new training bases in the west and that will get you to that new higher figure. >> thank you. and now "outfront." the former cia operative bob baer. president obama said yesterday, we don't have a complete strategy in iraq. a thousand more american troops increase of 40%. is that it? that's the strategy? >> that's it. it won't work. we failed in iraq. this is starting to look like mission creek to me. you throw troops at it at a
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point like this. we don't have a clue how to fix isis. we can't get to the tribes in the west and baghdad is not coming through with a coherent army. it is not happening. >> so you used the word mission cream. you say mission creep. you think they don't know what they're doing. >> well the administration is desperate. they don't want to get into 2016 without countering the islamic state in some way and the best they can do at this point is send in trainers and hope recruits come. it doesn't sound like much of a strategy to me. >> what do you make of this issue? the president himself has admitted the recruits aren't there. no one is showing up to be trained. >> well, the sunnis are not rallying around baghdad. the issue government as jim just said. they won't do it. they're staying in anbar province so we're left with the possibility of a handful of people we can train or the issue militias and we don't want to do that. so we're pretty much stuck
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without any obvious strategy in that part of the world. and the islamic state is getting stronger by the day. they were attack around baghdad today. >> what's the answer though? some people say, and people have come on this show former head of the cia, hey, we need a lot more troops. some people have sent 15 to 20,000 troops. if you can't get iraqis to show up to be trained why would you put lives at risk if they're not willing to die for their own country? it is either a lot of troops or no troops. isn't it? >> i think we have to face the reality that iraq is no longer a state and trying to prop it up with a couple thousand american troops isn't going to make any difference at all. so we should start moving to the end game on this and let it split up as it will. >> all right. bob baer thank you very much. >> "outfront" next a sassy 6-year-old steals the show. [ applause ]
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she's been getting a more than a little bit. 6-year-old joanna has audiences cheering. hosts paying homage. >> she has good feet but the magic is up top. >> reporter: finally we get to meet the magic seated next to her dance teacher. >> you stopped the show at your dance recital. that was amazing. >> okay. she didn't speak much. what she said was memorable. >> what were you thinking when you were doing that routine? >> i thought i was really spicy. >> whew! >> reporter: that's her dad saluting her spiceiness. she seems unfazed by sudden fame. the mom said she was more excited about the end of the school year and the ice cream she got as a reward for her excellent report card. she started dancing when she was
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2. definitely one of a kind says her dance teacher. >> she is so humble and always so caring. >> reporter: taking special care of her 3-year-old brother cj who was born with an intestinal disorder that has required more than 30 hospitalizations and surgeries. at times, johanna outarethas aretha. ♪ r-e-s-p-e-c-t ♪ ♪ find out what it means to me ♪ >> reporter: even when it was time to take a bow, what johanna wants, johanna gets. she means it with all due respect. encore! cnn, new york. >> you have to wonder what she will be when she grows up with all that attitude and personality. good for her. already inspiring those little girls left and right. thank you for joining us.
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be sure to set your dvr to record your show so you can watch us any time. we'll be back here. ac 360 starts right now. >> we are live for the next two hours because there are a lot of developments. we've just had a major development in the escape of these two fugitive murderers. david sweat and richard matt. sweat, the cop killer on the left, matt the murderer's torturing sadist on the right. the first to break out of clinton correctional facility in far upstate new york. we begin tonight with breaking news about the role that investigators believe this woman, prison tailor joyce mitchell may have had in the escape. it was reported that she was hospitalized the day they broke out with quote, a case of the nerves. her son toby spoke out today about his mom. >> she is not the kind of
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