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us on twitter. tweet me @wolf blitzer. police be sure to join us right here in the"the situation room"." dvr the show so you won't miss a moment. erin burnett "out front" starts right now. breaking news in the manhunt for two brutal killers. police with a new lead tonight. they believe the suspects may be in vermont. the governor out front. who is the female prison employee that sources say was supposed to pick them up after their escape? a former inmate from the prison. a cop who pulled a gun on teens has resigned. why does he get to keep his pension? will he be charged? let's go "out front." good evening to all. i'm erin burnett. police with a new lead in the
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manhunt for the two convicted killers. the search has now moved into vermont. authorities focusing on state parks, campgrounds, directing patrols along the borders of lake champlain which crosses all the way into canada. they have marine units surrounding that lake. police are trying to assure the public they are looking -- i quill will quote them -- behind every tree under every rock. they are still searching in the town where matt and sweat escaped from the maximum security prison five days ago. usually when people get out of jail and escape they are missing for a few hours. five days. authorities now going door to door checking every single car in a town of 2,000. the governor of new york andrew cuomo, says a quick capture is necessary. >> we need to find these escapees. they are dangerous men. they are killers.
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they are murderers. there's no reason to believe they wouldn't do it again. >> time is of the essence. about five days passed. new questions are raised by the female prison worker. you are looking at her. her name is joyce mitchell. sources say she's linked to the killers and was supposed to pick them up after their escape. more on her story ahead. we have learned a lolt moret more about her today. i want to begin with jason carroll. jason, you know you heard from police. more than 500 tips. they are losing sunlight by minute. every minute does matter. how intense is the search at this hour? >> reporter: as you can imagine, it's as intense as ever. investigators, law enforcement out here on this road here in front of the prison retracing their steps, knocking on many of the doors that they did early on during the search doing that again, not wanting to leave any stone unturned. also wanting to check every lead. one of the leads you mentioned, you talked about. that is now having do with the
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state of vermont. there are thoughts that perhaps these two men, richard matt and david sweat, had a plan to head into vermont. the thought being perhaps there would be less law enforcement on the ground there, less heat there than there would be here in the state of new york. not the case. vermont actively involved in the search for these two men as well. vermont state police joining the search. there are checkpoints and patrols along lake champlain. all this as new york's governor has come out asking again for the public's help asking for the public to report anything suspicious and to remain vigilant. >> and jason, the woman in the prison joyce mitchell that they are -- some are saying was supposed to help them that may have been -- you spoke to her daughter-in-law. what did she tell you about the woman we see here joyce mitchell? >> reporter: they are very angry.
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paige mitchell her daughter-in-law, angry about many of the reports that are circulating out there. spoke to her at length this afternoon about a lot of the allegations. basically, she told me a number of things. her quote, she said i think 95% of what is being said is not true. they don't have the facts to prove this. this is slander and rumor. she said no way, absolutely no way she would give them power tools. there's no way. it's just ridiculous. i asked her also about that allegation erin that her mother-in-law had some sort of a plan to help there's two men once they had escaped out of the manhole but changed her mind. when i asked paige about that she said that's another thing she said we have heard about that my mother-in-law would never, ever do something like that. she said, that's ridiculous as well. >> jason, thank you very much. we will hear more on her side of the story and whether it adds up at all. first, law enforcement officials
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asking if you have any information on these suspects -- you see the picture so much on tv. look around. please call the tip line 1-800-give-tip if you have any idea where these men may be at this time. thanks very much for that. i want to bring in right now the vermont governor. governor i appreciate you taking the time. we shared the tip line for viewers so people could call in if they had any idea where the men might be. you said they may be trying to go to vermont. do you think they are there tonight? >> caller: we have no idea. this is what we do know. these two guys are very dangerous. we have to find them as quickly as we can. governor cuomo and i are extraordinarily concerned about it. we're putting all of our law enforcement resources into trying to get these guys and lock them back up where they belong. having said that the only tip that we have -- i will emphasize, we don't know where they are. but the only tip we have is that they did intend to go to
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vermont. they thought it would be cooler over here in terms of law enforcement. and, obviously, they are trying to do everything they can to not get caught. >> as you said acting on the tip that they intended to go to vermont. you talk about them as being dangerous. richard matt dismembered a man. david sweat murdered a sheriff's deputy. how dangerous are they right now? to the public. >> caller: you know we don't want folks to panic. we want them to use common sense. you know it's often in this kind of situation that you find people like this because someone sees something suspicious. they see two people that they don't belong there or they find a camp broken into or they find a stolen boat on the shore and they didn't think about it until somebody would go that boat i saw. bottom line is we're calling out upon new yorkers and vermonters not to panic, use
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common sense. if you see something suspicious call it in. do not approach these guys. these are not nice men. and obviously, any suspicions should be reported so we can get these guys locked up. >> i appreciate your time. thank you very much. i want to bring in two men with a lot of experience on what's happening right now, this manhunt. a retired nypd detective sergeant and retired u.s. marshal. hunted down the fbi's most wanted. investigated the alcatraz escape. you said you thought they were close to the vermont border. it was a few miles away in new york lake champlain, which is significant. do you think they were able to make it across the lake that they could be in vermont? >> it's very possible especially with this heat. you get stuck with mosquitos might be biting. they have to be hypervigilant. they haven't rested well. they are running from law enforcement. they haven't eaten probably. no drinking water.
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they will be desperate. they will try to make a move, pref preferably at night. i hope law enforcement is using drones and infrared stuff so we can see a heat signature. >> art, what is your view? the reporting is perhaps right that sources are saying the woman who worked in the prison was going to be the getaway car. she didn't show up. that would imply they are on foot unless there was a carjacking of which we haven't heard anything. are you confident that's the case? is it possible they have fled already much farther than anybody thinks? >> that is a possibility. but i do think that they are in that area specifically within 24 or 48 hours of the escape the u.s. marshals went out and got an unlawful flight to avoid prosecution warrant. that warrant would cover any investigation that would cross the state lines or actually go into canada.
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now, i know there have been leads up in the canada area. so i'm not surprised there aren't any in the vermont area also. >> let me ask you, joe, are you surprised? you talk about that they are desperate. they are not resting well no matter where they are. that's true. then there's the situation that they might not have anything. are you surprised that we haven't heard of a carjack inging or a boat missing? >> right. at this point, they don't want to leave the bread crumbs behind. anything that happens -- even if they break into something, it's going to set up the red flare. i don't think they want do that. i think they know that. >> you think they are smart enough -- they are not at that level of desperation? >> not yet. this plays out better for law enforcement. the more tired they will be. >> art, what do you think? would they give themselves up? >> i think that's a possibility. the way these two psychosighpsychopaths
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have been operating in the past i doubt it. i was up there three or four months ago. it's very rugged. it's dotted with many cab pins and summer homes. there's a good possibility that they were able to get into one of those locations, find food find shelter and find clothes. that is a possibility, especially up in that area that they could have been hiding out in one of those empty homes for a few days. >> you use the word they. you think they are together? >> i think they probably are together. they might be reaching the end of their rope as far as dealing with one another. but they probably are still together. they have to rely on each other right now since the car was not where it was supposed to be. >> joe, do you think they will strike again? >> i hope not. but there's a good possibility that in their desperation they could do something. that's why the governors tell people just call if you see something suspicious. >> thanks very much to both of you. this is ongoing at this hour.
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next the woman who works in the tailor shop she's an air force mother, a wife. was she an accomplice in one of the most daring prison escapes ever? we have learned more about her. the president sending hundreds of american troops to iraq. are more americans about to risk their lives in iraq again? police say this officer's behavior was indefensible when he pinned this teenage girl down at a pool party. you will hear his side of the story for the first time.
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we are learning that investigators questioning guards inmates and civilians at the facility looking for accomplices in the historic jail break. one of the civilian workers is joyce mitchell. you see her there. she's the woman authorities say befended ed befriended the two convicted prisoners and might have been the getaway driver except they didn't show up for that part of it. we are learning more about her tonight. >> reporter: investigators are leaving no stone unturned in the search for convicted killers richard matt and david sweat. questioning prison employees like joyce mitchell who worked at the prison since 2008 and is known to have contact with them working in the prison's tailoring shop. >> she was befriended or she befriended the inmates and may have had some sort of role in assisting them. >> reporter: sources tell cnn that she may have allowed the two to make calls from her cell
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phone and could have been planning to pick them up after their escape. mitchell's son said she would never have helped inmates but might do out of the ordinary things if she was scared. >> when you are put in a situation where family members, friends or other family members might be friend or at risk you do things that you wouldn't think to protect your family. in my family family always comes first. >> reporter: her daughter-in-law says any cell phone use can be explained. i believe there's talk about her and richard matt. he was interested in art. i believe she was persuaded to contact people for him who knew about an art piece or work of art. that's what the cell phone calls are about. a former federal warden at five different prisons around the country says prisoners can be persuasive. >> some of the inmates are very manipulative. they are very good at what they do. i mean they can get a staff member's attention. >> reporter: whether mitchell is involved remains to be seen. authorities say there's no
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question the escaped convicts had help from the inside. the big question is from who. we were able to confirm joyce mitchell is a state employee. she's not an independent contractor of the because of that there are public records. we were able to find more about her. she has been employed for seven years at the prison. her title is specifically industrial training supervisor. the former federal warden tells me that it the real motivation when an employee of a prison helps a prisoner number one, it's money and number two, it's personal. we were able to confirm, she makes almost $60,000 a year. >> thank you very much. marty spent 12 years at the facility. he was convicted of murdering his parents. that was overturned in 2007. gary is with me. a former prison guard. he served time in jail for smuggling drugs into the rykers
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island prison. so let me start with you, marty. joyce mitchell worked at the prison for at least seven years. we don't know how long she knew these two killers. we believe that she knew them both. do you think they could have had a relationship with her? >> it's very possible. any job you have in a correctional facility if you work around civilians or officers for an extended period of time the relationship you have changes from when you first start there. if you work in a tailor shop you are one of 25 inmates or 30 inmates that you have to work around the same civilian day in and day out. if they were there for a year two years, three years, the relationship will change. >> it could be close. gary the family you heard, there's no way she could have helped these killers at all. if there are calls on her cell phone, it was because of some art they were looking into. that's the explanation. that to you is a big red flag.
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>> well, it's a major red flag to me. as a correctional officer, one of the rules is undue familiarity. you can have -- you couldn't have any kind of personal relationship with any inmate. it's strictly business all the time performing your job. the mere fact that she made phone calls on behalf of his art or anything showed that the relationship was more than a professional trainer inmate relationship. >> right. we're learning -- her daughter-in-law is saying she's a nervous person. she's worried. she says that's why she wouldn't have helped the men. but richard matt is known -- we hear this again and again. ladies man, able to -- that's what we hear. do you think he could have taken advantage of her? >> inmates have nothing but time to sit and plot and think of how to get advantage by the inside. they felt she had low
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self-esteem self-esteem. she could have had a conversation that her marriage may not be as well as it is. they take this and they analyze it and they use it as an advantage to try to pry, break down her resistance and get familiar with her. >> now, marty, mitchell's family says there's no way she would have done this. you have served time in this prison. when you think about it the complexity of what they were able to pull off, not just that they were able to get the power tools and do this but they knew the maps. just finding your way out knowing what pipe goes where and what pipe is big enough this is not simple. this is not something that joyce mitchell alone would have been able to help them with. how many people do you think helped them? >> one of the big questions is really is how were they imparted the knowledge that the steam pipe ifn question exited on to the street and there was a manhole cover? they could have had one person impart that knowledge to them. one of the bigger questions is did they gain access to the
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catwalk area where the steam pipe was or did somebody else? nobody has identified who gained access. you can narrow down who gained access by identifying when was the heat shut off so the steam pipes would have been accessible? once you narrow that down you can access who got the catwalk keys and who did any kind of maintenance or repair work. >> you both have served time. can you imagine people who would help people like them? just taking a step -- if you knew they are going to get out and you are not, would you still have helped them? would pepople do that? >> you know it's somewhat of a code of honor amongst inmates. inmates knew. someone knew other than the two that things were going down. because it took time to plan this. >> right. >> no one inside wants to be labeled as a snitch somebody who would tell about this
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elaborate plan. so i mean it will take more investigation. somebody will talk and tell details about this. >> gary part of the reason -- when you were a corrections officer but you were behind bars because you were smuggling drugs. you know it can be done. let's just say we're talking about the power tools, things ss like that. could a guard or someone else have smuggled that? ? >> absolutely. it's a trust factor. correction officers live by the creed that you took oath to uphold the law. they become a family. it becomes a strong bond with your fellow employees. you wouldn't suspect one of your fellow employees. >> i don't frisk and check you. you could bring something in? >> absolutely. i could bring whatever i want in. >> and what do you think, marty? >> it's very possible. but the code is if they did know nobody would say anything. also the less people that knew
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the more chances of success that they would achieve. if you had a dozen people that knew it's a potential for having let's say a dozen people informing. in prison if there's two people that know -- >> they are both getting out. then you know no one will tell. >> if one does tell, you know where it came from. if six people know and there's two different stories, and they get one story, you could identify who told the administration because there were two stories told. >> so i want to share with everyone this. we have this in. it's a new wanted poster coming out of vermont. we're just getting this. they are looking there. to each of you, do you think they can pull this off? are they going to get away? >> they have accomplished something that's never been done in the state of new york so far. >> yes. >> and if they really were able to successfully get out and had a plan a and a plan b -- what i
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mean is a getaway driver or there was no driver -- >> which we think we're on that. >> very possible. and they were smart enough to evade law enforcement and go to canada or vermont quickly, because they did have a five-hour head start, they have the potential of being successful. >> i feel the same. >> all right. potential of being successful. thanks very much to both of you. appreciate your coming on. president obama sending 450 american troops to iraq. some democrats are saying this is how vietnam got started. is this a disaster in the making? the officer who pulled a gun on unarmed teens at a pool party, we will hear his side of the story. more on the manhunt for two brutal killers. that's coming up. ♪ ♪ ♪ (singing) you wouldn't haul a load without checking your clearance.
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tonight, president obama says he is sending 450 more americans to iraq. now putting nearly 3,500 americans on the ground. the war against isis is not going well. the iraqi army says it's
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recaptured a strategic oil re refinery town. ben wedeman just returned. ben, we're just learning, 450 more american troops are going into iraq. is that enough to stop isis? >> reporter: certainly in terms of the numbers, it's small. keep in mind that out of the current 3,100 u.s. forces here in iraq at the moment only about 650 are actually involved in training. an additional 450 isn't going to make a huge difference. what's interesting is that they're going to be deployed to a base which is halfway between fallujah controlled by isis and ramadi controlled by isis. they're going to be very much near the action. that seems to be one of the
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objectives of this new deployment the creation of a new base where u.s. forces will be training the iraqis. it appears that they're going to be playing sort of not necessarily -- they're not going to be involved in combat. but they will be close enough to the action that they can provide the kind of up close advising perhaps, that they have not been doing until now. >> ben, you were right outside the town the iraqis say they control but the united states says at best it's 50/50. what did you see? >> reporter: well, at one point we were on rooftop 2 1/2 kilometers from the city center. we could hear a fair amount of shooting. we did speak to several field commanders including the head of the hush dascha be the iranian-backed paramilitary
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organization. he himself told us that at best the situation is 50/50 as far as control of the city goes. that interestingly contradicts what we have been hearing from iraqi officials here in baghdad for the last 48 hours who have been telling us with the exception of one neighborhood in the northern part of the city that the town is under control of pro-government forces. in fact when we were there, we were pushing quite hard to get in and they were hesitant to let us in. >> actions speak louder than words. certainly, what you are seeing directly on the ground thank you very much ben wedeman live from baghdad. i want to bring out peter brooks. and the retired lieutenant general mark heurtling.
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i spoke with bob baer. he said this is starting to look like mission creep. we don't have a clue how to fix isis. i know you think sending 450 american troops into iraq could be a good thing, right? >> i think it's certainly a good thing. what we're seeing is the potential for increased iraqi inclusiveness. when ben just reported that we're going to be basing the trainers between fallujah and ramadi that's where the sunni tribes are. they are having difficulty getting to other bases where they are being trained. this shows the iraqi government is taking the seriousness of getting those sunni tribal members trained, which prime men ster minister has been trying to do. >> the total is 3,500. is that enough? is that the right strategy? >> i think it's political cover for what the president said last week at the g7 when he talked about that they didn't have a
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complete strategy for training the iraqis. i think it's essentially a band-aid on an agreasegressive cancer. it's good if you can get the troops trained and willing to fight. even the u.s. defense secretary ash carter said he has concerned. he said it publically. he has questions about their will to fight. you can train them forever. if they're not willing to take on isis you have a problem. >> general, not only did the secretary of defense say that to our barbara starr, that they didn't have the will to fight, you heard ben wedeman reporting that isis appears to be in control of that crucial town of ramadi, obviously. the iraqis don't admit that. they say, we're in charge. our reporter goes there. it's clear it's not true. why do you think the president is doing the right thing when the iraqis don't show up to train and appear to lie when it comes to where they are winning and losing?
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>> i wasn't present at the meetings between the president and the prime minister last week at the g7 and the previous meetings before that. what i might suggest is they are probably talking a lot about the president helping the prime minister to overcome some of the sectarian divides within the iraqi government. when secretary carter was talking about the will to fight, i like to translate it because i think i understood what he was saying. he is talking about the leadership of the iraqi army both the generals on the ground the colonels and the iraqi government contributing to the soldiers' will to fight. that's what happens. you can teach soldiers all you want about the skill of conducting themselves in combat. but unless they have will, which is a supplementary thing, you can't do much in making them fight. trust in government is what they are looking to do. it's an indicator that the prime minister is trying to get more sunnis and the kurds in the north involved in this fight
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under the control of the iraqi central government. >> thanks very much to both of you. i appreciate it. the officer in the pool party video. his attorney says he is suffering from severe emotional distress at this moment. his side of the story tonight for the first time. more on our story, the two escaped convicts how can they survive days on the run with no food, noah water? we have a special report on that. that's coming up "out front." financial noise financial noise financial noise
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new tonight, the lawyer for the teenage girl seen in this video, her face pushed to the ground is calling the officer's actions beyond inappropriate and excessive. the officer you see there, he resigned yesterday. he had been on the job for ten years. he will get all his benefits. he is eligible for his pension. he was not fired. he resigned. we are hearing his side of the story for the first time. it might surprise you. >> reporter: a show of support for the former mckinney police corporal seen in this video.
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five days after he slammed a teenage girl to the ground and pointed his gun at other teens at a pool party, an apology on his behalf. >> he never intended to mistreat anyone but was only reacting to a situation and the challenges that it presented. he apologizes to all who were offended. >> reporter: he resigned from the police department yesterday after being placed on administrative leave. his actions in this suburb north of dallas the subject of intense criticism and ongoing investigation by the police department. >> i don't want my members to paint police officers with one brush just like i don't want police officers to pauntint my community with one brush. >> it is his hope that his resignation will facilitate the cooperative relationship between the citizens and the police officers of the city of m mckinney. when the neighborhood incident came over the radio, he was reluctant to respond to a simple
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trespassing call. however, once the call was escalated and responded to possible violent assault, he felt and believed it was his duty to respond. >> reporter: his attorney giving some insight into her client's state of mind that day. she says before he responded to the pool party, he had responded to two suicide calls, one involving a man who had shot himself in the head. >> the nature of these two suicide calls took an emotional toll on him. >> reporter: he was named officer of the year in 2008 allowed the emotions to get the best of him contributing to his behavior. he didn't face reporters today over concerns about his safety. >> the death threats. he is worried for his family. he is worried he may be followed. until that threat subsides he is going to be in an undisclosed location.
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>> reporter: much has been made of the fact that this former officer is still going to be eligible for his pension. it turns out that in the state of texas, once you earn that eligibility, you don't lose it regardless of how your job status changes. even if he had been fired or if he ends up facing criminal charges down the road he will still be receiving his pension. as far as the investigation, we're told it's still ongoing. at this point, it's unclear if he will be facing any criminal charges. >> a crucial question for many watching the story. thank you so much. two very resourceful convicts escaping this maximum security prison. right now, they are trying to survive in some of the most rural heavily wooded terrain in the united states of america. a special report on exactly how they are doing it. remember this tiny dancer? tonight, she got some major
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hashid shaabi. breaking news. the manhunt for the two killers who escape a maximum security prison in new york at this hour moving to vermont. we have gotten the wanted poster being distributed in vermont. police officers searching campsites. they are going door to door. matt and sweat have been on the run for five days. how are they surviving in some of the most difficult terrain in the country? alexander field is "out front." >> reporter: the first reported sighting of the fugitives, now informations say there is information they are heading toward vermont. the search spanning the northern reaches of the adirondacks. >> are they going to be a huge
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challenge for them or a resource that provides cover while they move? >> i think that's a little bit of both. >> reporter: without professional training a survival expert says the odds are well stacked against them. >> it's one of the largest parks in the entire united states including that one of the most rugged areas and terrains in country. the temperature, even at night, even in june hypothermia. if they don't have the proper clothing. i'm sure they are exhausted. >> reporter: it's likely they will duck in and out of woods heading out toward urban areas to find resources, going back in to cover ground. if they can navigate. the trail system will lead them experienced hikers cover eight to 15 miles a day. some as many as 20. >> looking behind every tree under every rock and unsideinside every structure. >> if you noticed, there's a
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tread pattern. >> reporter: he trains law enforcement officers to recognize signs that aren't easily noticed. >> we come in and look for the specific disturbances on the landscape and tie it to the individual. then follow that trail. >> reporter: we will try it. >> this is where you went in. i'm looking at the few patterns and a couple of leaf pops that you leave up. >> reporter: the search area is vast, the hunt already days long. >> we're back to the search method. that's men or women standing abreast from each other and then walking through the woods and hoping to see something, stumble upon something, discover something. >> reporter: to track these suspects he says officials would need a very recent sighting to try and find some telltale sign. alexandra field, cnn, >> i want to bring back retired nyp detective.
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sergeant joe jjacalone. on the run a few days. no matter how in shape they're not used to running, may not have the right gear, they're not experienced hikers. what are they going through right now? >> going through a nightmare. surviving in prison one thing. surviving in the wilderness another thing. it is hot during the day, freezing getting wet, swamplands your feet what shoes are they wearing. all positive for law enforcement. they're not going to be able to take this much abuse over the next couple days and hopefully, just come out and say i had enough. >> so you don't think they were ready for this part of it? you think this is what could bring them down? >> yeah this is something that was not planned for. we pretty much hear they had a car waiting for them. that didn't pan out. now they're ad-libbing as they go along. quite frankly they were not prepared for this. >> what about footwear you think someone could have provided it or no? >> that's an afterthought. we have all done this. should have brought the umbrella
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today. if they're wearing a pair of keds from prison. not the terrain to be walking over. this is a positive for law enforcement. let's hope this ends peacefully. >> joe, thank you very much. appreciate it. texas sergeant we said. >> up next a follow up to the story of the amazing 6-year-old we introduced you to. getting down to aretha franklin's "respect." ahead, aretha reacts. ♪ the promise of the cloud is that every organization has unlimited access to information, no matter where they
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>> we are celebrating "the 70s" at cnn. we had candy. and from mary tyler moore to olivia pope in "scandal" how far we have come. >> you've got spunk. >> well. >> i hate spunk. >> reporter: it was a tomb ofuf time of ground breaking television. shows like "maude" and "all in the family" showcased issues and "the mary tyler moore" show in 1970. a single woman with a career. >> i think the 70s was a special time. it was rare to see a single girl like a mary richard or a single mom, like elaine nardo, on television. >> what's wrong, don't they feed you in there?
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>> reporter: mary lou henner starred as elaine single mom who drove a cab on the hit show "taxi." >> elaine did reflect what was happening in america. in the '70s, women were saying "marriage isn't what i thought it would be. i don't want to be somebody's wife." >> reporter: tv reflecting a new found america. between 1970 and 1980 the number of working women aged 25-34 increased nearly 50%. so what would mary and rhoda think of the women on tv today? >> they would be envious. if you remember women couldn't get pregnant at work until 1978. >> reporter: the year women could no longer lose their jobs just for getting pregnant. but it would take another 15 years before the family medical leave act was passed. allowing 12 weeks of unpaid leave to care for a newborn or family member. and while salaries have increased since the 1970s, women still make, on average just 78
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cents for every dollar a man earns. a political issue then. a political issue now. >> i don't think i am letting you in on a secret when i say -- too many women still earn less than men on the job. >> reporter: as hillary clinton chases the nation's top job, tv continues to reflect women's evolution with strong characters like olivia pope on "scandal." >> if you don't let me help you you will die for this. >> reporter: she runs a powerful crisis management. and alicia florek a top attorney. >> women have more power over their own lives. >> rarely you see women on tell strigs who -- television other than stay at home wives. on scandal you are a fixer and by the way, sleeping with the president. >> mr. president. >> mary lou henner says television has been friendly to women but still has a long way to go. >> i think you have the little smatterings of people who seem
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totally real on television. then the people who just seem to have like the most gorgeous clothes and, the most fantastic fantastical lives. let's face it is a kardashian world and we all just live in it. >> reporter: even the kardashians owe gratitude to icons like mary richard who first broke the mold. ♪ ♪ you might just make it after all ♪ >> the cnn original series "the seventies" premieres tomorrow night at 9:00. in the 24 hours since we told you the "best story of the week" the 6-year-old who struts to aretha franklin's respect. the individually received 10 million more hits which brings the total people who have seen this little girl to 40 million. take that kardashians. we have also now heard from the queen of soul herself who says of her impersonator quote, "i'm scared of her. i thought i had those moved covered. but this little girl is fierce." talk about respect.
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i got to give it to you, arethashgs youaretha, you got to know when you are beat. this little thing has you trounced. thank you for joining us. set your dvr, record "out front" and ac "360" with john berman starts now. >> john berman sitting in for andersen. we confirmed the investigation has wide and long with the search for that pair of killers who brock outke out of new york's toughest prison. the search turned to neighboring vermont. the investigation we just learned is extending beyond that. u.s. marshals sent out feelers to three states. we don't know which ones. seeking clues to where david sweat and richard matt could be. as well as who in those states and perhaps others need to be questioned. it seems they're trying to hem these guys in for obvious reasons. >> we need to find these escapees. they are