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morning the school district closed as a result of the search in this area. new york's governor asking everyone in the particular area to be on the look out for anything suspicious. they have to follow up on any lead they have for the possibility that it might lead them to these very dangerous men they're looking for. in terms of how long route 374 will be closed no idea. >> meanwhile, these developments come just hours after the police had expanded the search to vermont after finding that the pair had discussed crossing the border to avoid the police presence in new york. as well as more on that prison worker who authorities now confirm is being questioned in the escape. tell us everything you have. >> reporter: we're essentially on the west side of that segment of road that's closed. in fact the roadblock just a
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few yard from where i'm standing. in the distance is the clinton correctional facility from which these two men are believed to have escaped. the question is why the investigation has shifted back here. there's also a hunt that continues in the neighboring state of vermont. yesterday we heard from the governors of new york and vermont saying that their hundreds of leads lead investigators to believe they could have crossed state lines. much of the focus of the investigation today will be on joyce mitchell who's believed to have provided some form of support to these men. her loved ones saying 95% of these reports are untrue. her daughter-in-law says she's disgusted that her mother-in-law would help them. that police presence continues
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to intensify in this part of upstate new york. >> let's bring in the governor of vermont. thanks for joining us. let me ask you. we keep focusing on this. >> great to be with you. >> it's a pleasure. we keep focusing on this one prison employee. to your knowledge, have investigators widened the circle at all to other people they believe may have helped these two bad guys? >> i can't comment on the investigation because obviously we don't want to get in the way of doing everything we can to apprehend these guys and get them back where they belong. this is a governor's nightmare. we're trying to protect the public safety. these guys are desperate. they would do anything to continue their freedom. we're following every single lead. i'm convinced that it's highly likely that in a situation like this with the aid of the public
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we're more likely to catch them than simply law enforcement working on their own. so we're following every single tip on both sides of the lake. we just want to get these guys locked up back where they belong. >> you mentioned both sides of the lake. if it is true they were in your state, it's not that easy to get there, is it? what are the different ways they can get there? >> if they go too far north they hit the canadian border. these are smart guys. so chances are they're not going to try crossing that border unless they want to get locked up fast. so obviously navigating the lake without using the bridge the crown point bridge would be the smartest strategy at night. from their perspective, the less
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motorized noise they're making the better off they are. so they could have had a canoe. they're trying to seek anyway to get over to this side. whether they've done that or not, we don't know. we do know that the only indication of where they were headed was the state of vermont. because they felt from a law enforcement perspective it would be cooler. we're changing that drastically right now. >> and now with the cooperation of new york state you're on a state of high alert to be sure. what can you tell us about the resources involved? >> we have plenty of resources. we've basically created with governor cuomo and my team a seamless system. we've given them authority to cross boshdrders at any time. we don't care what state they're from. the challenge for all of us is to follow the hottest leads and
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put our resources where we've got the highest likelihood of success. anyone in the public who sees something suspicious call law enforcement. most importantly, don't get near these guys. don't go vigilante on us. these guys are dangerous. they'll do anything to get their freedom. they don't mind killing folks. these are not nice guys. stay away from them. and report to law enforcement any suspicious activity. both governor cuomo and i are pleading with citizens not to go vigilante. >> good luck in your efforts. >> thank you so much. this morning, another police department has come under fire. two officers in orlando are now accused of usinge inging excessive force. they were caught on camera kicking a man. two orlando police officers are
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accused of police brutality after the release of this video. an on looking captured 30-year-old noel carter sitting on the curb kicked repeatedly by police and tasered, resulting in several injuries. >> he was being tazed while he was doing nothing. >> carter claims he was having a disagreement with his girlfriend when police approached him and beat him. >> i was shoved and sprayed and battered prior to any conveyance to what my disorderly conduct could have been. >> police say that's not the whole story whanchts. >> what you see is only a small piece of what happened. >> officers david cruise and charles may say carter was using physical force against his girlfriend, grabbing her, refuse refusing to let her leave. >> it is clear that carter was intoxicated, resisting officers
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uncooperative and attempted to flee multiple times. >> the officers say they tried to arrest him, but carter fought back arguing, lunging as they tried to subdue him. this witness video taken outside the club shows carter running from police resisting their demands as one officer tazs him twice. carter denies the police accounts and is filing battery charges against the officers. >> you do not have to look at the totality to see the abuse that is done and unlawful use of force by these officers. >> carter was arrested on several charges including domestic battery and battery of a law enforcement officer. his attorney is fighting those charges and there's an investigation underway to
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determine what happened. jeb bush is on an overseas tour just days ahead of an expected presidential announcement. >> reporter: good morning. this trip not unlike other presidential candidates who have come before him is all about burnishing credentials. to that note he spent the morning actually more of a tourist than a foreign leader. he went to the warsaw museum to commemorate the warsaw uprising during world war ii. he and his wife put flourswers on a wall that has american names on it. he also had a meeting with a pretty controversial figure here in poland. up until yesterday, the speaker
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of the polish parliament but yesterday he resigned. and the reason why he resigned is very much related to the u.s. chris, as i toss it back to you, i'll tell you that he was caught on tape talking about the what i that he believes poland is subservient to the united states using very colorful language. it will be interesting to see the way jeb bush explains that he still had this meeting even though this man resigned in disgrace. >> by telling me nothing, you seem to have told me everything. thank you very much for the report. >> reporter: it's an art. we have new evidence that the israelis may be eavesdropping. a cyber firm based in moscow has detected a computer virus frequently used by israeli spies in three european hotels.
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all three hotels have hosted the nuclear negotiations. the virus in question allows hackers to infiltrate computers phones and wifi new yorks.tworks. watch as they respond to a may day call of a ship sinking off alaska's coast second after they pull the last man off the 73-foot vessel. the boat rolls underwater. you can see they're having to use these cages to get them out of the water. all four men are okay. it's unclear what made this boat take on water in the first place. >> see that guy floating? he's in a survival suit. i learned that on "deadliest catch." >> it's amazing. it's they go out in storms high seas. >> they do. good for them for getting those
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guys back in time. we are following the manhunt for two dangerous fugitives. a tip has triggered a search just a few miles from the prison. >> president obama says no plan? how about this? i'm sending 450 men and women on the ground in iraq but they're just going to be training partners. is this enough? . i've smoked a lot and quit a lot but ended up nowhere. now i use this. the nicoderm cq patch, with unique extended release technology helps prevent the urge to smoke all day. i want this time to be my last time. that's why i choose nicoderm cq.
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we don't yet have a complete strategy because it requires commitments on the part of the iraqis as well about how recruit recruitment takes place, how that training takes place. so the details of that are not yet worked out. >> that was president obama on monday admitting the strategy against isis is incomplete. now the white house set to send 450 troops to iraq as soon as this summer. good morning admiral kirby. does this complete the strategy? >> it will allow us to do a lot better and help the iraqis do a lot better in anbar province. it will help improve iraqi security force on the battlefield. we've seen isil maintain a very
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aggressive posture. >> if the ultimate strategy is to defeat isis does this 450 additional troops defeat isis? >> this 450 additional troops as to the troops we already have there doing very similar missions inside iraq. a key component of this strategy is to improve the iraqi security forces improve their capabilities and their confidence on the battlefield. this 450 will do that in a specific place in al anbar province. it's a key component of the strategy we're executing already. >> this move is being criticized even by some fellow democrats. here's charlie wrangle talking about the additional troops being sent. >> this is exactly how vietnam started. and if you don't think you're putting them in harm's way, then you're not living in the real world. >> what do you think about the vietnam analogy? >> i think we need to be careful
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making historical anal nalanalogies. this is predominantly -- and it needs to be. people need to remember this is iraq's war against isil. yes, there's an international coalition trying to support them. we're a member of that. this is a group that's going to be defeated in iraq by iraqis. in order to keep that defeat sustainable, in order to make it stick, it has to be done by iraqis. we're trying to help them do that. >> what the critics say is the common theme between this and vietnam is mission creep. in june of 2014 we sent 275 troops. ten days later, 300 troops were added. four days after that 200 more troops were added. four months after that 350 troops. a week later 475 troops.
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a few months later 1500 troops. and now this june 450 troops. people say it's mission creep. how do you see it? >> it can't be mission creep if the mission isn't changing. mission creep means the mission is changing and evolving. this is actually contributing to deepening and furthering a mission we're already conducting in iraq and four different sites. it's very much in keeping with the mission itself. and 450 is not thousands. i'd remind everybody that on the ground we're going to have about 3500 american troops in iraq. it's a far cry from the more than a hundred thousand we had four years ago. it's not mission creep if the mission is not changing. >> correct me if i'm wrong, but we've heard that the problem is not the number of trainers. that might be adequate.
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it's finding the number of trainees and troops who are willing to be trained. >> one of the things these advisors will do is help the iraqis improve their recruitment practices. that's part of the reason we're putting these advisors in there, to help them build a professional professional army. >> can you tell us where we are today with the iran nuclear deal? the end is this month. people are saying they give it a 50-50 chance. >> we're still committed to the deadline. secretary kerry is very very focused on this. he's been in touch with our team over there negotiating almost every day. wendy sherman, his chief negotiator was just here. she went back. we're all working toward that june 30th deadline.
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we are following breaking news here police in upstate new york pursuing a new lead in the hunt for two fugitives on the run after escaping from a maximum security prison. dear stranger, when i booked this trip, my friends said i was crazy. why would i stay in someone else's house? but this morning a city i've never been to felt like one i already knew. i just wanted to thank you for sharing your world with me.
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. breaking this morning, police activity in the search for two escaped prison nors iners in upstate new york. schools and roads are being shut down. police are searching by foot and by air. and cnn is all over it. let's get back to jason carroll in west platsburg, new york. >> reporter: when you say miles, we're talking about seven miles east of where the prison is. that's where the roadblock has been set up there, not allowing nonresidents in and out of this particular area. about a seven-mile stretch of route 374 closed to most of the traffic here this after they got some sort of a tip last night that something suspicious was spotted in the area. that triggered this man hunt
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shifting to this particular section of this rural area. you had businesses being closed. you also had residents who were in the area being told to stay inside if they had exterior lights on to make sure those were turned on to keep their doors locked. this reminds me of another sighting on tuesday. that was also in response to a lead. basically when you have out here chris, any time there is any sort of significant lead investigators have an obligation to follow up and respond with the type of response that we're seeing out here today. in terms of how long route 374 will be closed this particular section, we're hearing from new york state police it will be closed until further notice. >> i'll take you jason. and please keep u.s. posts posted. . or top story, the search for those two missing fugitives are underway. the new search is within miles
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of the prison that the pair escaped from friday night in upstate new york. the texas police officer who resigned after that clash caught on video at a pool party, speaking out through his attorney. eric casebolt said he let his emotions gets the best of him while handling that group of teenagers. two orlando police officers accused of using excessive force, caught on camera kicking a man as he sits on a curb. and a massachusetts man was killed while fighting isis in syria. he had joined up with kurdish fighters. he was killed outside the northern city of kobani. a vote tomorrow would give president obama fast track trade authority, bringing him one step closer to finalizing his signature pacific rim trade deal. go to cnn.com for all of the latest. this is something that i think hits home with the group
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here. trouble sleeping not getting enough sleep? before reaching for your sleeping pills, research finds a certain therapy may be more effective and safer. here to explain is dr. sanjay gupta. >> hello. good morning. >> you must be doing cognitive behavior therapy. what is it? >> look first of all, as you mentioned, a lot of people have difficulty sleeping. what they decided to look as were people who had the most trouble insomnia insomniacs which are defined as people who have trouble sleeping for at least a month in a row. they divided them into two groups. they had short-term sessions with a psycho therapist to talk about their sleep problems and give them strategies to fall asleep and stay asleep and have
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better quality of sleep. they found that in the long-term the people who got the cognitive behavioral therapy tended to improve in all those counts. they fell asleep more quickly, stayed asleep and their overall quality of sleep was better. they didn't say that using a pill every now and then was a bad idea. but they say in the long-term cognitive therapy is a better result. >> what does it do? >> it teaches people about stimulus control. when you say it's time to go to sleep, you go to bed. if you're having trouble sleeping a lot of people stay there and toss and turn instead of getting up and leaving. if you can't sleep, the answer is to leaf theve the bed. the bed is for sleeping. they teach you to leave the room. >> so you reset a little bit? >> you don't go watch television you don't go do
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something stimulating. they teach you meditateive activities. some people take sleeping pills from time to time. they're not saying that's necessarily a problem. it's not a sustainable solution. so the question really is what are the sustainable solutions. these are people who have significant trouble sleeping as a result of being insomniacs they are gaining weight and more at risk for heart disease. this is a real problem for them. >> this is something you can benefit from if you have some serious problems or would each of us take something away from this? >> i think we all have occasional sleep problems. getting to a psychotherapist, doing it a few ties can be challenging just to incorporate into your schedule. for people who have less sleeping problems there's online programs as well. i actually tried a couple of them last night myself. >> what did you do?
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>> i did calm.com. it's a free app. you can download it. there's sleep training on there. it's a stimulus control sort of program. again, it focuses on relaxation and reminds you if you're sitting there unable to sleep for a long time it may be time to get out of bed. >> anything wrong with using sleeping pills? >> i don't think so. people become dependent on them not in an addictive sense, but it just becomes something that people do regularly to try to fall asleep. there's also a hang over effect even for pills that don't spend as much time crossing the blood-brain barrier. they found that people who took am ambien the next morning had reduced motor skills. i travel a lot. resetting the clock sometimes
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can be beneficial with sleeping pills or melatonin. i didn't know much art this cognitive behavorial therapy for sleep. i started reading on it and it's more sustainable. >> it sounds like it couldn't hurt. if anything it can help. >> object there'sviously there's time involved. people who've said i've had trouble sleeping my entire life this could be something that is noninvasive, nonmedical sort of solution for you. >> if there's nothing physical going on if you can get up and get yourself into a meditative state, doesn't that mean it's not physical? >> if you look at the headlines today, that's sort of the commondifficulties with sleep, a lot of it is in your own heads.
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unless there's some ailment keeping you from sleeping it probably has to do with this. i keep a notepad by my bed. if i've got troubles i write that down. i cast it away on a piece of paper. in the morning it's still there, unfortunately. but i get to deal with it. >> sanjay when he's having trouble sleeping and they say get out of bed, do something else he calls me and says this is not sanjay gupta, you have a big nose. i said it's you! he sleeps like a baby that have and i'm up torn trying to find him. >> tossing and turning. >> sanjay great advice. thank you so much. we are staying on top of the story. that's the search for these escaped prison norersprisoners.
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about these officers, because if it were you or i that kicked someone and used a weapon against them while they were sitting passively, we would be arrested. that does not happen to the police. and that is the problem and that is what we have to solve here. >> that is orlando lawyer natalie jackson. she's speaking out for her client noel carter. you're going to hear from him. now, that's him sitting down on the curb. that is a police officer repeatedly kicking him after an altercation outside a nightclub. carter says he is a victim of police brutality. police insist including the chief, that he was resisting. let's discuss. we have former nypd detective sergeant mr. joseph jackalone. and harry howe. good to have you both here. even with what we know harry, i give the benefit of the doubt to
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the police when we're doing these analyses because they have to use force in the pursuit of their duty. but i'm having a hard time with this one. what is is a legit excuse for kicking a guy like that when he's sitting on the curb? >> this guy claims he was sitting around doing nothing when the police came for him. >> that's not what he claims. go ahead. i just interviewed him. >> that's what i read in the article. the fact that he assaulted his girlfriend he assaulted police officers. allegedly this was a real fight going on. so when he was tasered and he was down on the ground the taser was not working on him. once that taser was not working on him, the officer still had to effect an arrest on this guy. and they can use what are force is necessary to affect that arrest. and kicking is not out of the ret m realm of getting someone to submit. >> he is submitting.
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he's sitting on the curb. >> he's probably being told to get on his belly and he's not doing this. he is resisting arrest. that is why the officer is kicking him. i would have put the guy in a chokehold and put him in handcuffs. remember we did not see the whole video here. i would like to see the whole video here. >> why? let's unpack that for a second. there is a separate incident. it was at the nightclub. he was having an argument with a woman. he did end up getting charged with domestic battery and other things. her statement by his lawyer says he didn't hitter her. they were having an argument. the police officers were off duty at the nightclub making some extra hour pay. they came upon him. he was resistant. he says he wasn't drunk. they say he was drunk. they use the clubs, the taser, pepper spray. they say her ran. we don't see that. we see him moving away.
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he says he's moving because he's getting hit and hurt. how does that justify the kicking? >> once you're on the ground not fighting back -- >> he's sitting on the curb. >> this is where i have the problem. somebody's got to come there and handcuff this guy. >> what are you worried about harry? he's on his back from getting kicked. >> i tell you i would have put the guy in a chokehold. >> they're not teaching this at the academy. in this case kick him like a pinata. >> it says the police can use whatever force is necessary to effect the arrest. >> he's got another guy standing right there doing nothing. >> the other guy's probably got the taser on him and he's tasing him and it's not working. it's not good for him to get down and touch that guy while he's being facetased. if this guy had just done what the police officer told him to do this would have never happened. a police officer believes that
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he's got to be able to do this to effect that arrest i back what he did 100%. >> this is why i'm going to come 100% the other way. you treat the cops in these cases like an angry man. they are not just another man. they're cops and professionals and their training is to deescalate deescalate. now he's sitting on a curb. >> supervision is very important. i would like to know where the supervisor is on this case. they're there to prevent stuff like this from getting out of control. >> the chief says you didn't see the beginning. he's a big guy. he came anothert the cops. >> my hands are raced in a submissive fashion. once i saw the taser gun, i
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immediately went the operation direction, with my hand in the air. >> that's what he said. he's the personp. >> he's a perp because the cops put him in a situation. she says there was no hitting. >> that's what the defense attorney said. >> that's true. but the statement is what it is. unless he's lying. >> but that's a defense attorney. he's going to come in and say that his client is innocent of all charges. >> that's true but if she says no hitting in the statement, she'sshe he's a lay liar. >> when he's on the ground he's not really fighting back at all. he's lying there and kicking him. someone's got to step in and stop him. if cops don't realize they're on video every minute of their day, i don't know about you, but i wouldn't want to be the youtube video of the week.
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>> we can't be playing patty cake with these guys out there. you can't play stupid silly games with these guys because if you do you could wind up dead. >> you get a big amen with me on that. we're worried that when you show the worst you wind up making it the norm. that's not what we want to do. >> it's not the norm. >> but when you defend every one of these, whether it's this guy getting kicked like this here or what happened in texas where she's a 14-year-old girl and she's mouthing off to the cop. >> i didn't defend him. >> i know but a lot of people do. when you defend these things -- obviously i'm talking about the texas case there where the guy was kneeling on her back 14 years old. when you defend what seems indefensible then it starts plead bleeding in not in texas, but in here.
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in texas you came out -- >> in this one i'm still okay. >> because this guy was resistant to start with? >> correct. i would have put him in a chokehold. that's what i would have done. >> it's better than kicking him like a dog. >> that's my choice. i'm not the officer who's this danger here. how long do we sit and play pattycake with them here sitting on the curb? are you finally going to submit to my arrest? you can't do that. as a police officer you've got to effect an arrest quickly. >> if he's trying to effect an arrest and i'm not letting him. in this situation, where does it become where any force is okay? >> he has to move in and take control of this guy. simple as that. listen as police work sometimes it gets ugly and dirty. and you're going to have to get in there and deal with the ugliest and the worst in
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situations. >> listen after the first kick the guy went down on the ground. he's got to then jump on top of him. when he's lining up looking like he's kicking a field goal this is where somebody's got to stop. >> it doesn't look good to the public. but they're not there with the police officer dealing with that situation and the situation before the video occurred and after that video is over. we don't know what happens after this. apparently he gets handcuffed somehow. >> he falls down rolls over. >> and he stops kicking. >> he gets kicked again. there's a whole other cycle of kicking that happens after this. if i'm raising it as something where it seems like what it is on the face that's why i'm doing it. i agree you have to give the cops the benefit of the doubt. they're dealing with the worst situations and their lives are at risk. at the same time you don't want to defend things that seem like it went too far, because that sends a bad message. >> exactly. >> harry, thank you for taking it through all the time. mr. jackalone, thank you for
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being on the show. those are the two sides on these analyses. which way do you feel? use the hashtag new day cnn. who recollect forget rhoda, one of the most popular tv shows of the '70s. we're talking to the best. valerie harper talking to us about the original series the '70s.
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people would say you're just like me and my girlfriends. >> how could you gorge yourself like that and stay so skinny? >> that was a clip from the critically acclaimed '70s series. joining me now, this is a pinch me moment to discuss her own role as '70s icon and star of the hit show "rhoda." four-time emmy winner valerie harper. >> it was a great line. i have to lose ten pounds by 8:30 or something, five pounds.
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>> now it seems like a funny joke. but when you look back at the fact that in the '70s shows were -- first of all, women writing for women characters and talking about things like women's weight and body issues and women working. >> absolutely. absolutely. that was what was good about that show. and that's why women are still watching it. and everyone should tune in and see this and they'll remember how different it was from the decade just before. >> when you went in to audition for the show did you know it was going to be such a slice of time in that era about an example of what was happening in the nation at the time? >> no. do you know what i knew? it was funny. it was incredibly funny and it was funny with integrity. it didn't push anything or get, you know -- can i say [ bleep ]? it wasn't that. it was truly funny.
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it was human beings dealing with one another. >> i look at the list and it's like the viewing guide of my childhood. all in the family good times, the jeffersons mary tyler moore, mash laverne and shirley. when you look at all those shows, they were kind of real people. >> and they were about something. it was relationships, people bumping into each other. our show and of course all in the family that was more -- that was more issues. our show was people bumping into each other at the workplace, at home in the apartment, with your parents. it was coping. coping with each other. >> and coping with the things that life threw your way. the fact is it was one of the first shows to deal -- you got married on your show and you divorced. a woman getting divorced on a sit
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sit sitcom. did you realize you were part of this movement? >> not really. soon i got a lot of letters. don't let joe go he's perfect for you. it was incredible. you don't know how many toasters i received on the wedding day. people really took them to heart. and it was great. there's so much that women have to -- i feel incumbent upon me to own up to what's going on. like right now i'm fighting and winning, by the way -- >> yes, you are. you are winning your fight. >> against cancer. who knew? i was really ready to go. i said it's incurable and terminal. and my husband always says, yet so far. you know something's coming. >> i want to ask you about that. i've had the pleasure of meeting you through tv and we shared los angeles together. >> we sure did. >> have you always been a
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positive person. i sense that's what has made a difference in your health battle. >> i absolutely urge people don't give up don't be negative. there is so much you can do. >> i think you're a shining example of how we should all live. i'm so glad you came to share your memories about '70s sell vision and your shining light about life and living. tune in to the '70s. it's airing tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern. >> those two were like kindred spirits there. we'll have more of her interview with valerie harper tomorrow. first, we've got some serious good stuff. it hits close to home and it involves mik. why is she wearing that gown? do we have to call her doctor now?
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mik was just awarded an honorary doctor of laws not just one law, many from rivers university in canada recognizing her philanthropy. you have no idea how much she tries to help in society. her constant advocacy for under privileged youth. mik called the honor unforgettable, empowering and uplift uplifting. her new contract states she will be called doc. >> does she get paid more for that title? >> tripling of salary. doc and eyes down she said. no direct in the eyes anymore. and she will begin every one of her segments by saying the doctor is in. >> congrats. we are so happy for you. >> we love you. you deserve it. you do it the right way, my
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sister. enjoy yourself. >> meanwhile time for "cnn newsroom with carol costello." i have to call mick call la goddess goddess. >> that's also fine. >> "newsroom" starts now. happening now in the "newsroom," intensifying efforts to catch two escaped killers. >> lock your doors. make sure you're being vigilant. . searching by air, on the road by foot. where could they have gone? what are they doing now? >> i'm sure they're probably looking to break into some houses change their clothing get new gear on. >> and the woman in the tailor shop did she have a soft spot for one of the fugitives' art? >> and an american called in syria. >> i did

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