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sting. thank you guys. you can always follow us on twitter. join us tomorrow in "the situation room." that is it for me. thanks for watching. erin burnett, "out front" starts next. breaking news. the biggest lead yet in the search for two convicted killers on the loose. a few miles from the prison right there. more breaking news the female prison employee who they believe was part of the plan has been investigated for a relationship with one of the escapees. a development in the case of rice. there's probable cause to charge police with murder. let's go "out front." good evening. we begin tonight with breaking news. a major break in the hunt for the the two convicted killers on
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the run. tonight, police narrowing their search to a few square miles right outside the maximum security prison where richard matt and david sweat escaped. it's incredible right there. not far away, not 30 miles away. just breaking moments ago, a new york state official telling cn this that joyce mitchell the female prison employee who knew both killers well had been under investigation for a relationship with one of them. investigators believe mitchell was part of the getaway plan. tonight she's telling investigators that one of the escaped convicts made her feel "special." we will have more on joyce mitchell's story coming up. it's at the heart of this. we have an interview with one of her relatives. at this hour hundreds of police combing a heavily wooded area where dogs picked up a accident that authorities say was left by the two men. they also found their discarded food wrappers a shoot print and more evidence that they may have recently slept there.
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the search area is along a corridor goes due west to plattsburgh. a lot of the roadway has been closed until further notice. you are talking about a few square miles right outside the prison. jason carroll is outside the prison in dannew york. search crews, k-9 held liicopters are all out. >> reporter: they are confident about the lead. they are following up on 600 leads locally. but the most significant lead came last night and throughout the day. police dogs picked up a accident that investigators suspect came from escaped killers richard matt and david sweat. even as the manhunt widens across state lines, the best leads have been found a few miles from the prison where the two staged their spectacular escape. small clues in a massive search.
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food wrappers a shoe or boot print and matted grass. checkpoints went up on the main highway highway. police stopping every car, checking back seats and trunks. a former inmate who testified against matt spoke to cnn saying he is worried the killer might come after him. >> he is dangerous. he is cruel. and like i said, he is very evil. there's no telling what his mindset is. and what he can do or what he will do next. >> reporter: authorities say it's likely the two are still near the prison with no reported break-ins or carjackings. officials think a combination of bad weather and the intense search may have forced the two to hunker down in place, if they are even still together. they also cite information that the killers don't like the outdoors adding david sweat takes pain medication for a bad back. investigators continue to question joyce mitchell the
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prison employee who a source familiar with the investigation tells cnn planned to drive their getaway car before changing her mind at the last minute. another source told cnn that mitchell admitted one of the men, richard matt made her feel special. mitchell's ex-husband told nbc news, that's very possible. >> she's from the country. she's from a small town and everything. she could be a country girl that got sweet talked by some city guy. >> reporter: when asked about mitchell's involvement, her daughter-in-law told me i'm disgusted anyone would think she had a relationship with these men and that she would knowingly help them. she would never want a criminal near her family. what seems to be most clear at this point is that the longer these two are out there, the more desperate, dangerous they might become. that's why authorities are asking the public to remain vigilant as we head into day seven of the search.
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>> jason carroll, thank you. residents near the prison many of them are living in fear tonight. you have hundreds of officers k-9 teams searching the yards. two dedzadly fugitives could come up to people's homes. helicopters circling schools closed. many families looking doors and hunkering down. ken lives in the area. authorities have been crowdoutside his home. he is a former prison guard from there. you know the story from every side. let me start with where you are right now. you are in your house. you have a weapon. you are ready, right? >> caller: correct. >> and how worried are you? if they were to come up to your house, what would you do? >> caller: i would do whatever needed to be done. i'm not worried. i spent many years behind walls there. >> what police have you seen?
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we're hearing helicopters, k-9 teams. what have you seen? >> caller: helicopters, roadblocks on both sides of us. >> you are completely blocked in. i mean is there any part of you that wishes you had left or no? >> no, >> caller: no no no. traffic can go through beyond -- on both sides. it's a roadblock is on 374. >> when you say you are locked and loaded what sorts of weapons do you have? it sounds like we just lost the connection. talking to my control room. we did. we will see if i get an answer to that. we just lost him joining us from his cell phone. a guard in that -- in the facility and right now in an area that's blocked off, is in his home. as he said locked and loaded in case the fugitives come to his house.
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a survival expert who trains authorities to track down fugitives, he knows this area well. also a retired u.s. marshal who conducted hundreds of manhunts. you know what police are going through at this hour. you know what happens when you are almost seven days into something and you haven't found them. it's almost unprecedented in this kind of a case. they say that dogs might have picked up a accident ofscent. do you think that that's possible? can dog dozen thats do that? >> that's a good possibility. i think that's what happened. i have never been a k-9 officer. the marshal service has a robust k-9 program. i have a good general knowledge of what those dogs are capable of. they are a phenomenal asset. they will probably be the key involved in locating these individuals. a dog, compared to a human, a dog has 40% more capacity in its brain cavity to analyze smells.
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they search in a three phase function. the first is actually searching for the target scent, which actually could have been something given to them that came out of the cell or it could have been the bedding that was located around the facility. then there's the deciding phase where they are deciding whether that's the actual target smell that they have on the ground. and then obviously the searching phase where they go after and follow the scent. i think in this particular case because of the terrain and because they are going house to house, the k-9 is the key. >> which is important, because they have a lot of k-9 teams out there right now. we are just hearing -- just talking to law enforcement sources that they worry about the time passing, obviously. we don't need to be told that. you are at seven days here. they are saying that the worst case scenario is the rising possibility that they break into a home to get provisions to get weapons but also to take hostages.
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>> that's true. we're talking about guys who are on the lamb. they are taking serious desperate moves at this point. i don't know what their survival skills are. sure they're not survival experts. it leads me to believe -- you have the adirondacks right there. it's a traemendous park with resources available. it becomes a detriment if you don't know what you are doing. i'm an expert and it's no light hearted task -- >> to pull that off. they found a footprint. one footprint. i could be pointing that way and then i could turn that way. one footprint can't give you all the answers. you think that footprint could be crucial? >> absolutely. as a tracker -- that's the difference. when you are -- when they come across a scene and i look at a track, everything about that person is actually in that track. the difference between a k-9
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unit as we are talking about scent. the different between trackers we don't use dogs. we look at the tracks define and profile everything about the individual from that track. there's a science here. and from that track, there's a string of trail that leads directly to that individual. we know there's a boot print. there's a candy wrapper. there's bed areas. there were tracks leading in and out. >> you can get information about that. >> a tremendous amount of information. >> that leads me to do you think they are still together? they can work together if they are together. if they are apart, you might argue that they have a higher chance or at least one of them eventually would have a higher chance of escape. >> it appears right now they are together. i think they are together because there's a relationship that they are relying on one another. more than likely they have got into a house somewhere. hopefully, an abandoned home.
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have food and shelter and clothing and are just waiting it out. obviously, up npin that area they haven't opened up summer homes, which will happen after the 4th of july. so hopefully, this thing is quickly coming to a close and between the tracking and between the k-9s they can locate these two. >> bottom line do you think they are closing in? they are looking at the few miles around the prison. do you think they are closing in tonight tonight? >> i feel as if they are. when i look at the window of time of escape and then the witnesses and the dogs picking up the scent from the prison to the location now, it makes sense. you are talking about a tremendous area. they don't have the provisions. whatever they did collect is probably from the landscape or abandoned cabins or homes, dumpster diving. they are closing in. i feel that they are. a big difference is getting to seat see the tracks and movements before other authorities start
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destroying the evidence. that's crucial evidence that will lead this and pinpoint this investigation. >> thanks so much to both of you. i believe they are closing in. just a few square mile radius. we have breaking details coming in to cnn about the possible accomplice the female prison worker. her ex-husband calling her a serial cheater. what exactly do we know tonight about her relationship with the killers? we have the full report for you next. as the manhunt closes in could the convicts have split up? what would that mean? a judge finding probable cause to charge a cleveland police officer with the murder of this boy. this is a huge development in a story we have been following for months. stay with us.
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breaking news. joyce mitchell the female prison employee at the center of the fugitive hunt. she was investigated before for a relationship with one of the killers. mitchell may have helped them on the run. we have learned that she told them that one of the fugitives made her feel quote unquote special. brian todd is out front with this breaking news. this shin kredis incredible. this bombshell, she had been under investigation for a relationship with one of them? >> reporter: there had been a complaint about joyce mitchell's relationship with one of the two escaped inmates. the official who told us didn't specify which one. we have new information tonight about her earlier marriage in addition to specific details of her contact with the fugitives. corrections officials had previously received a complaint about joyce mitchell's relationship with one of the two
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escaped inmates. that's according to a state official briefed on the investigation. the complaint is what led to investigators zeroing in on mitchell as a possible accomplice. that official did not specify which inmate. a source familiar with the investigation says mitchell told police escapee richard matt made her feel special. >> she was befriended or she befriended the inmates and may have had some sort of role in assisting them. >> reporter: joyce mitchell anymore named tilly, is an industrial trainer where she worked with the two escapees. a source says authorities believe she was going to drive the getaway car after their escape. but at the last minute, she changed her mind. she has been "extremely cooperative with investigators" according to the local d.a. she has not been arrested order charges. her son told nbc news she's not the kind of person who would help inmates escape. on a possible relationship with richard matt --
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>> she wouldn't have an affair against my father. it wouldn't be with an inmate. there's no truth to that. >> reporter: he is referring to her current husband, his stepfather. i spoke with joyce's former brother-in-law. he doesn't think very highly of his former sister-in-law. >> she likes the wild side of people. always looking for the ones that are a little bit troubled. >> reporter: i asked about joyce mitchell's short marriage to his brother. >> rocky. very rocky. >> reporter: he hasn't seen mitchell in 25 years. cnn made requests but neither joyce, her ex-husband or their biological son could be reached for comment. she is seen here in a yearbook photo from the area. as the manhunt intensifyies as she speaks to investigators, she hasn't spoken publically.
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a new york state official tells cnn, authorities are holding off on any move to charge joyce mitchell with being an accomplice concerned any legal action might end her cooperation. the district attorney declined to comment on any such decision. >> brian, thank you very much. incredible what we are learning about her. joining me an artist released last year after serving 17 years for manslaughter some at that facility a criminalist along with a former prison guard who served time in jail for smuggling drugs in and. the news that we're breaking tonight, that joyce mitchell was under investigation already in the past for having had a relationship with one of these two. we don't know which one. when you hear that how close do you think the relationship could have been? >> i wish i could say i'm surprised. looking at this the group of people here i'm not very
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surprised. i mean i have seen these relationships get incredibly involved where the wife -- the woman gets divorced from her husband who is working in the facility and it's a big -- >> it's a full relationship? it's not just emotional? it's sexual? you are able do that in a super maximum prison? >> yeah. >> mitchell told investigators it was richard matt made her feel special. we don't know if that's the one she had been under investigation for a relationship with. made her feel special. what do you think this relationship consisted of that could have swayed her like this? >> it's completely emotion and cerebral. you couldn't eat. you couldn't sleep. that tingling feeling you get. most people by middle age don't get it with their spouses anymore. she was feeling this way again and again. in the interest of consistency,
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i'm sure the person she was investigated for is the same one that made her feel special. even after the investigation, i'm sure she backed down backed off, she said i got too close, i will straighten that out and went right back like addiction. >> that's what i want to ask you, you have been a guard. you have been a prisoner. i'm asking you, if she's investigated before, are you surprised they would let her go back to work? this is a super max prison. if someone is having a relationship part of me is surprised they would let them go back to work. >> they thought the relationship -- maybe it wasn't that intense or they didn't get enough evidence enough information to feel she was that intense with him. like i wrote in my book about relationships, people that work in these facilities have a double life. outside, family oriented inside it's a different world in there. they can have this other relationship and it's hard for someone outside such as their spouse to find out about it. >> you can keep it secret.
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nobody would believe that anybody would do such a thing. >> sometimes the secrecy is what fuels the emotion. the idea that they have something else nobody knows about. it makes it feel very special. >> it doesn't surprise me they let her back. everybody who works there, they are brothers and sisters and part of the same family. her boss might have been her brother-in-law or uncle or whatever. of course they will let her back. >> her husband works in the prison. >> which is important to note. we have no idea whether he was aware of this or not. a source has been telling us that the investigation at this point, they believe joyce mitchell was going to be the getaway car. she didn't show up. there's two reasons. she got cold feet. they emerged and they didn't know where they were going to emerge and she was somewhere else and the paths didn't cross. we don't know. do you think she was the only one helping them? she's at the core of this. but is she enough? >> she would be enough sure. if all they -- it would have been smarter not to tell others.
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the fewer people that know the fewer leaks. if they needed a way to get out of town it would be better if only she knew. >> how does that play into the relationship? could it have been mutual on any level? >> no. he played her. he played her. >> you are laughing at me on that. no mutual on the relationship. >> he escaped from prison before. he has a long history of seducing women. detectives have investigated said he's luke a pied piper. >> they have said that. >> he knows -- he smell her vulnerability from across the room. he picked her out and knew she was the one. you don't need a huge quantity of people to help you with the escape. if the quality is so intense, especially if it was over months or years, then the actual priority of that in her life could make her lose all sense of reason. >> they talk about this all the time in the yard. they single women out and they talk about them amongst themselves who they will go after, why they will go after
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them. >> really? did you experience that? speaking which woman you will target? >> they plot all the time. maybe she had a little sense of low self-esteem. she had problems at home. the way she carried herself around them. as far as someone else helping them i looked at the photos of the cut, the precision of the cut into the pipe. it seemed like you have to have a certain amount of skill to do that. you have to see, who was she privy to? was she privy to blueprints? that's why i think it was more than her being in love that helped them get out of that prison. >> she might be the one that we know about now. there could be others. >> she could have gotten that without other people knows. had access to it. >> she's not being charged right now. maybe they think she knows something and they are holding off. >> that's what we are reporting. they aren't charging her because they think they can get more information. they won't do that until they
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get everything they need to get. thanks very much to all three of you. good to see you. two desperate men with violent histories. it has been seven days. are they together? can they work together to survive? could they have turned on one another? breaking news. two seconds for a police officer to stop and shoot tamir rice. open the door shot the kid. it took six months but today a judge finding probable cause and charging the officer with murder. that breaking news next. ting, long-lasting relief from heartburn with it neutralizes stomach acid and is the only product that forms a protective barrier that helps keep stomach acid in the stomach where it belongs. for fast-acting, long-lasting relief. try gaviscon®. so this beauty can be yours with a down payment and 10% financing. oh larry, lawrence. thanks to the tools and help at experian.com i know i have a 798 fico score. ♪ oh. that's the sound of my interest rate going down. according to this score alert,
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we're following breaking news. a break tonight in the hunt for two brutal killers on the lose. k-9 teams on the trail of two convicted killers. they picked up the scent of the men. they picked it up near the prison within a few miles. candy wrappers part of what they saw. residents on lockdown told to secure their doors and stay inside. just in the past half hour they now fear the men could take a hostage to use as a bargaining chip.
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we want to begin with miguel marquez. it's a small area right now that they are looking at right? >> reporter: it's about five square miles. that idea of hostage taking is fresh in the mind of everybody who lives in the neighborhood. people are on pins and neelddles to say the least. everything that people see in area they jump to conclusions. anything out of place, they are hypersensitive to. it's a little strange to be here. the area behind me is the area that's blocked off. we are four miles from where the area where they believe they bedded down is. it's an area in the grass that had been matted down with leaves and grass, looked like they stayed there the night. the food wrappers a boot print and because the dogs picked up a scent, they believe it was recent that they had been there. they believe that this is the best place to be. we have seen troopers pouring in here to replace other troopers. 500 searchers in total.
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helicopters up. dogs on the ground. it's a five mile square area that they are searching. concentrating in an area. that's where a lot of the activity is happening. >> thank you very much. a very strange place to be going through something like this. i want to bring in a criminal defense attorney and former assistance director of the fbi. tom, let me start with you. you heard what they are saying they are worried they could take someone hostage. these are -- it's a remote area. you have houses isolated. i was talking to someone earlier who said he is locked and loaded in his house with his guns. he is ready for them. how big of a risk do you think this is that they take a hostage? >> it's a huge risk because that could be their key to survival here. not requiring them to stay outside and deal with the elements for an extended period of time. if they go into somebody's home it would give them water, food
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shelter, clothes and possibly a vehicle to escape with possibly weapons that i'm sure a lot of people in that area have firearms in their homes. it's a very real possibility. very similar to the fugitive case two years ago in los angeles where he went into somebody's home was in there a week. they returned to the vacation home to prefairrirpare it for sale. fortunately for them he didn't kill them. he killed five other people but not them. >> paul they have been on the run for six days which is incredible in and of itself. the average time for an escapee is six hours. there has never been anyone who escaped from the maximum security part of this -- the clinton correctional facility. we're told they don't like the outdoors. david sweat was on back pain medication. are you surprised they haven't been caught especially if they left wrappers and are nearby? >> i'm astonished.
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i was with a client yesterday who was in this facility for three years. he was astonished that it could be pulled off. he knows the interior of this prison. the fact that they have not been captured is also very very surprising. when i look at their profiles psychopathic killers. who would be supplying them with support from the outside? i don't see it happening in order to have them escape to another state. i'm betting they are close to the prison. >> they are in the area. paul used the word psychopaths. that's a word you used as well. it's important when you talk about two men who clearly planned this for a long time together. no matter how you look at it it was complicated. are they together? are they able to work together? are they going to turn on each other? >> they might turn on each other. then again, they might realize that they need each other to survive. an extra pair of eyes to keep
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lookout, an extra person with them if they try to kill animals to eat or forage in the woods to survive. it might be better that they have both of them to do it together. i don't know. they could turn on each other at some point. you could have an argument. i told you that person wouldn't pick us up. this is all your fault. then kill each other. that's possible. i don't think they would have reached that point yet. they still have to survive and get through it. >> one thing i noticed that sweat was charged with killing a deputy sheriff. the reports were that he shot him 22 times. that sounds like a guy with a temper problem. do you really think he will get along over a long period of time with another psychopathic killer who has killed two people? i think their relationship would break down most likely. >> so tom, you counted just looking at the area -- miguel is reporting it's five square miles. you have looked at the area.
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you counted 330 structures in that space. >> right. >> is that a lot? is that a little? part of me says that seems manageable. i've been in this area. it's remote. you have mountains and valleys. it might be the opposite. what do you think? >> well the problem we can't get an answer to -- i asked this question earlier today -- is that when the police searched and came across these 330 structures if they found residences that were locked up no one answered the door did they go in and search? did they break through the lock? did they just move on? the reason is, again, christopher dorner went into a house that was unlocked made himself at home for a week within a mile the police command post. and again, it took the family returning to the residence for him to be discovered. the police checked the residence. the door was locked.
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moved on. >> you know before we go one thing that they did this escape. part of me says why would they take any risk of getting caught again? it would be better to die than go back to jail. if you have gone through all of this. do you think that's possible that's their plan? they will go out in flames? >> no i don't think so. >> interesting. >> they are in prison for life, obviously. the punishment is another seven years. you know what's going to happen? they will be put in the box, solitary. they will remain there for an extensive period of time. but they have become adjusted to prison life. they are risking death by trying to escape. i just don't see them getting -- allowing themselves to be killed. who can say? they are psychosychopaths. >> it's hard to tell. you have seen fugitive cases like this end both ways. end up in a blaze of glory or surrender and say, take me home i'm hungry thirty cold, i'm
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readied to go back. >> we will see. we could see any time in the next hours. they are zooming in on this area of about five square miles. thanks to both of you. a judge says there's enough evidence to charge the police officers you see in this car -- remember this video? opening the door and shooting the 12-year-old boy point-blank. tamir rice died. they got charged with murder today. a republican senator in hot water tonight after calling presidential presidential hopeful lindsay fulful lindsey graham a bro without a hoe. you will see what happened to him when i played that for him.
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breaking news. a cleveland judge ruling there's probable cause for charges against the police officers involved in the shooting death of tamir rice the 12-year-old boy who was shot in that snowy park. we have been following the the story closely. last year police said that rice's toy gun, they thought it was a real weapon.
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they shot him within two seconds. it was caught on tape. martin savidge is out front in cleveland. this is a huge development. a lot of people did not expect this would happen. months have gone by. they didn't think there would be probable cause for charges. what does that mean? probable cause for charges, it's not actually charges. what happens next? >> reporter: no it is not actually charges. in fact the ruling that came down from this municipal court judge is non-binding. it's not compelling. there's no arrest warrant out for the two officers in this case. as you said the judge did seem to find there was probable cause that the prosecuteor should charge these two officers with including the charge of murder, at least in one case that's the one who did the fatal shot. the thing is this is seen as mainly a symbolic effort here. the prosecutor says he has always said it will go to a grand jury. that's the way the prosecutor
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works. he says this ruling by a judge changes nothing. it will go to a grand jury at some point. it's not there yet. the investigation is continuing. he says the prosecutor, it changes nothing. >> you know one of the things is this took months. months and months and months. i talked to tamir rice's family. it almost seemed like there never was going to be a decision. how did they finally get this to happen? >> reporter: this really is a brilliant piece of legal work as far as bringing attention to the amount of time as you point out. family members and those who support the family of tamir rice are clearly frustrated it has taken so long especially when this was captured graphically by videotape. so what they thought was a very obscure law -- only 13 states have it -- where it is says if you are a witness or if you know the facts of the case any citizen can go before a judge and ask that there be an arrest.
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there were eight activists in this community who swore affidavits and did that. the judge said yes, he felt there was probable cause. but stopped short of the arrest. they see it as support of their case but they didn't get what they wanted which was these officers arrested. that's not happening yet. it will still wait for a grand jury. >> thank you very much martin savidge. more to go. a big development and one that surprised many people. a republican senator joking that lindsay graham is a bro without a hoe. yes, that was said by a senator today. i have rick santorum on my set. you will see what he had to say and what he did when he heard it next.
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tonight, hundreds more americans may be headed to iraq. the pentagon looking to send u.s. troops to at least four more iraqi bases near the front lines of the isis fight. this news comes a day after the obama administration announced another 450 troops are being added to the fight. the numbers could keep growing. the total at this point, more than 3,500 americans in iraq. rick santorum great to have you with me. i appreciate it. you know have the president saying another 450 troops they might have more to support the bases, that's what dempsey was saying was possible. you have talked about 10,000 american troops. on some level, you must think the president is going in the right direction. he is increasing the number. >> right. but he is not effectively fighting this war. that's really the problem. it's not just the number of
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troops. it's the number of sorties being flown. there's 14 a day of which 70% don't drop. we aren't arming the people who really want to fight. not the folks we have to train and encourage to fight. but actually people who are willing to fight like the kurds. we are not but people who are willing to fight like the kurds, not giving them the weapons they need to be effective. the jordanians. we do give aid to jordan. they need more military support. we are not giving it to them. egypt which i know this is near and dear to your heart, but egypt is a country that also wants, wants to fight. and we have we are denying them military hardware that we have promised them in the past and not giving it to them. so there is a lot we can do to help everybody engage the fight who wants to. allies that want to fight. and we're not doing it. much less our own. >> when you talk about 10,000 troops. the pentagon will say that could mean 30,000 americans, you know you need support staff and need
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to run the bases. so the numbers could get higher right? >> look i'm not a military expert. i used the term 10,000 troops because someone who i do respect testified before congress a few weeks ago, general jack keane who knows the area well. he suggested that's the force necessary to provide proper support for the iraqis proper support for our air missions and defeat isis at least begin to push them back. >> today the republican senator mark kirk was speaking at an appropriations committee meeting, he said he was joking with colleagues when he made a comment about lindsay graham running for office about his bachelorhood what he would be like in the white house. and i want to play it. did you see that? he's going to have a rotating -- >> he's a bro with no ho. >> i see the look on your face? >> locker room conversation.
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today you don't have the privilege of having locker room conversations can't say anything off mike or off camera. guys will be guys when they're sitting up there on a platform. mark kirk is a good guy. mark kirk is i'm sure wishes he hadn't been overheard in making some sort of funny remark. lindsay graham is a good guy. and i just think this is much adieu about nothing. and both are decent folks. this doesn't have anything to do with the fact whether lindsay graham is qualified to be president. >> should mark kirk apologize to women for making calling women hos, essentially? what he did. >> again, to me it's -- disappointing some one would say something like that. i will leave it up to mark kirk to determine whether he wants to apologize. >> when bruce jenner came out as transgender, he also said in the interview with diane sawyer noticed it did a look over his shoulder yeah i am a
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republican. is it okay if i say that? sort of making a joke about it. here's what lindsay graham said to cnn about caitlyn jenner. >> i haven't walked in her shoes. i don't have all of the answers to the mysteries of life. i can only imagine the torment that bruce jenner went through. if caitlyn jenner wants to be a republican she is welcomen my party. >> do you welcome her? >> if caitlyn jenner wanted to endorse me would i accept the endorsement? the answer is if that's how she feels about my candidacy, sure. look there are all sorts of people in this country of all different positions in life. >> you don't care? a gay man who is married to a man, a transgender, doesn't matter to rick santorum? >> here is the thing i always say -- never ask anyone why they're voting for you. because you probably won't like the answer. because people vote for you for all sorts of reasons. and that's fine. and i -- i accept whatever
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reason anybody wants to vote for me who ever they are. of course i accept their vote. >> you accept their vote. do you accept them? do you accept her? >> my, my job as a human being is to treat everybody with dignity, respect, period. full stop. no qualification to that. >> rick santorum. appreciate you taking the time. thank you. good to see you. >> my pleasure. thank you. >> and we will be right back. the promise of the cloud is that every organization has unlimited access to information, no matter where they are. the microsoft cloud gives our team the power to instantly deliver critical information to people, whenever they need it. here at accuweather we get up to 10 billion data requests every day. the cloud allows us to scale up so we can handle that volume. we can help keep people safe and to us that feels really good.
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