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at we talked about so much jed, still partially shut down again today, open to residents only. also the school district cancelled classes again today for the second day as the search continues. a few new details emerging specifically about the trail that these two may have been on. apparently bloodhounds picked up a scent at a gas station about a mile or so away from the prison. they're going to be checking security cameras there. the theory is that they likely stopped at that gas station looking for food or supplies may have been gone into the dumpster there. the dogs traced their scent probably to an area about three miles or so away from the prison. we are now actually a little further down on 374. this is the spot where searchers found an area a spot where they believed these two men may have been for a certain period of
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time. the search well underway. but for now these two still very much on the run. >> we're also getting a sense of why a prison worker may have felt compelled to help the dangerous convicts escape. it turns out that the relationship between joyce mitchell and one convict had drawn complaints before. the question now is will prosecutors charge her and if so, when? good morning alexandra. >> reporter: the focus of course is on finding those fujgitivesfugitives. we have now heard from the clinton county district attorney. he says it is his intention to charge joyce mitchell at the conclusion of the investigation. she could face charges ranging from accessory to escape to promoting prison contraband. right now she is working with
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authorities. she is not represented by an attorney. authorities say it was her plan to drive the escape car, but she backed out at the last minute. a law enforcement official also says that her cell phone was used to contact some of richard matt's associates. we're now learning about why investigators zeroed in on mitchell after the escape. they had previously investigated reports of some kind to have relationship between mitchell and the two escapees. there was never enough evidence to prove that a relationship sbis existed. we also know that mitchell has told authorities about her rapport with matt saying that he made her feel special. at this point mitchell's family is speaking out publicly. they're coming to her defense saying that most of these allegations are simply untrue. >> thank you so much for all of that.
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we want to bring in the host of cnn's the hunt and my old friend john walsh. good morning. great to see you. >> good morning, allison. >> we should let people know that you and i worked together for five years at america's most wanted. you of course were there for more than daekda decade. the show helped capture 1200 fugitives. are you surprised these two have been on the loose for almost a week? >> well on the 25 years that i hosted america's most wanted and you were one of my best reporters -- it was a pleasure to work with you. we did a lot of escapees. i think people don't realize that about 6,000 people escape from prisons all over the united states in any given year. i remember profiling eric rudolph, fbi top ten fugitive one of the most wanted men in america. he was able to stay out there in
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the woods of north carolina for five years. these guys are dangerous. they're very smart. they executed one of the most elaborate prison escapes i've ever seen. they must have been planning it for years. i think they'll be hard to catch because they are smart. there's so many opportunities for these guys to disappear into the vast spaces around them. if they did walk across the border into canada there are great places to hide in canada because there are so many open spaces and the law enforcement community is drawn thin in some of those spaces. although i've done a lot of cases with the royal canadian mounted police they're great manhunters. i think they may have made it to a vacation home. >> in other words an abandoned home? >> yes. well a summer home. several of the fugitives we did
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on amw, if you remember, if they were lifers and they just wanted to go on a crime spree, they would try to rainpe pillage, hijack cars. in vermont very adjacent to this prison there are lots of summer homes that haven't been opened up yet by vacationers. we had a couple of guys who holed up for a long time in vacation homes. the way they got caught was because the neighbors coming to open their homes could see something unusual. maybe a light go off in a camp that they thought people were not in yet for the summer. they could be holed up. they could be ready for a long wait. i think the key and what you learned working for me allison, was that the public is the key to this. there is a $100,000 reward. that is incentive to anybodyping these
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guys. i want to warn them you want to do the right thing. when they got caught you'll get caught and do five years in a federal prison for aiding and abetting a fugitive. they could call my hotline, 1-866-the-hunt. you could remain anonymous. >> absolutely john. >> we will guarantee -- >> getting the public involved that's the key. i mean how many law enforcement thanked us for profiling a fugitive who had been missing for 15 years and then on the night that amw aired it we caught them. some new information that we just confirmed on new day this morning said that the woman inside the prison working in the tailor shop did provide these escapees with contraband
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presumably the power tools. explain how it is possible to transfer power tools to a prisoner inside a prison. >> well i don't think people are surprised that you can get almost anything in prison number one. there is always that weak link in prison. i've done lots of shows in the past in prisons. and wardens will tell me the prison is full of drugs. they smuggle in pornography,ling ling lingerie. 90% of the workers are professional and do a great job, but there's always the one that brings things in. i'm not surprised they had power tools. there's a guy who broke out of folsom prison and dug a tunnel
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from the prison up into the exercise yard. i'm not surprised they had help on the inside allegedly. i'm not surprised. they had a long time to plan this. it was elaborate and they did a good job getting out. there is a reward that if you wanted to call the hunt hotline, police don't answer that hotline. i know a lot of people are afraid of police. they don't want to be dragged into the trial. we have the ways to get you that reward. you can remain anonymous. a police officer will never talk to you. you just need to give us that tip of where you think these guys are. i know people say i was reluctant to call because it was so inconsequential. the tiniest little tip can break this case. >> we're just getting information in as you and i are speaking. this is breaking. cnn has confirmed that the woman told investigators that joyce
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mitchell provided hacksaw blades to the convicts. so that answers some questions. it's so funny. we used to have a private joke at america's most wanted that i can't count the times that we would write in a script in terms of describing the fugitives that that fancy themes ladies men. richard matt fancies himself a ladies man and has a history of being able to romance women. we're learning the other one may have had this relationship with joyce mitchell. what do you make of women having relationships like this with murderers? >> just think about it. they they're con men. they're sociopaths. they're expert at it. how many crazy women have
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married people in prison including charles manson. i don't know how many prison escapes we did on america's most wanted that women aided fugitives they had never met. they establish a relationship online or through mail with a prisoner. help them get out and almost every single time that prisoner abandoned them. they've got lots of time to work on these women inside the prison or outside the prison. the sad thing is she's going to pay an awful price for helping this guy. they're good at it. they're con men. they're sociopaths. when they get caught if she did this she's going to be in big trouble and it will destroy her life. >> do you think these guys are still together? >> well i think they're smart enough to stay together. usually prisoners will break out in groups and split up. but i remember when we caught
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the texas seven, those guys that escaped from the prison in texas, they call stayed together. they killed a police officer the first night they got out, broke into a sporting goods store and took 70 weapons. everybody said well four of those guys are mexico. those seven guys are going to split up. the mexican guys are heading to mexico. i really believed they were heading north to canada. as it turned out we were right. they were posing as christian musicians in a trailer park and trying to make their way to canada. i don't think these guys split up. i think they stayed together. they know if they keep a low profile, this will fall out of the news. the hunt will scale back down. resources will need to be deployed other places. the hunt will become expensive. look at eric rudolph.
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he stayed in those woods in north carolina for five years. the only reason he came out was his drug dealer died of a heart attack and he was starving to death. an america's most wanted fan saw him coming out of the woods and eating out of a dumpster. these guys i think are just trying to keep a low profile and say if we stay out here long enough they'll scale back this search and it will drop out of the news cycle. i think they're close to that prison. i don't think they got very far. >> always great to see you. we look forward to the hunt being back on cnn next month. thank you so much. >> thank you, allison. >> if you have any informing on the whereabouts of these the escaped inmates contact the u.s. marshal's tip line at
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1-866-336-0102. if you don't have a pen, be sure to call 911. a cleveland judge has recommended charges against police officers in the shooting death of tamir rice. he was playing with a pellet gun at a reck center when he was killed. martin, what has the community reaction been to this announcement? >> reporter: so far the community reaction has been watching and trying to discern exactly what did this judge mean and what does it mean going forward? the municipal court judge said there was enough probable cause in his opinion. and this is a nonbinding ruling. but in his opinion these two officers should be charged in connection with the death of 12-year-old tamir rice. in the case of the officer who fired the fatal shot he said there was probable cause for charges of murder involuntary manslaughter negligent homicide
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and der . what they wanted was the arrest of the officers. the judge said he can't do that. didn't have the authority. said that power still rests with the prosecutor. that's where this case now goes back to the county prosecutor. he says look i'm not charging anybody. that will be up to a grand jury. and as of yet the grand jury has not heard or ruled on this case. the attorney who represents timothy lohman, the officer here he said all of this has been unfair to his client because they've been made to look bad and yet no ruling by a grand jury. i talked to him. >> i think his life will never be the same. he's a young man. wanted tor eded to be a police officer, is a police officer. depending on who you talk to everybody has a different version of facts. the only facts i would rely on the what the sheriff's department did. it's been assassination by unyou
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innuendo and speculation. >> reporter: no one has suffered more than tamir rice and his family. and that is a terrible tragedy. the only way to move forward here is with the justice system. and that he says requires a grand jury. >> so interesting the developments there. a virginia teenager faces up to 15 years behind bars for recruiting for isis. >> reporter: good morning. from honor student to high school drop out to terrorist recruiter for isis. 17-year-old stood in federal court yesterday in virginia and pleaded guilty to providing material support to terrorists. he admitted to being a secret isis propagandaist who wrote a
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twitter feed. he managed to help a friend travel to join isis in syria. while driving to dulles airport, he provided instructions on where to go once he arrived in turkey in order to meet up with other isil supporters in syria. >> reporter: he also told his online follows how to use bitcoin to provide money to isis. even though he's only 17 years old shehe's charged as an adult and faces 15 years in prison. this morning jeb bush is on the final leg of his european tour. he is in estonia today.
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back here in the united states the anticipation is building for his presidential announcement. he's been running for months but it all gets official on monday. dana bash traveling with the florida governor. dana joins us now live from estonia. good morning. >> reporter: and john behind me is where jeb bush is right now. he's actually having a meeting with some officials here talking about cyber security. this is the nato cyber security defense center. this is a key place where they are kind of on the forefront of figuring out how the keep all of what we do secure all around the world. this is kind of a prime example of the kind of meeting that he has been having along the way all week long in jurpeurope. talking about things where he can look presidential and comfortable on the world stage. he is well aware of the fact
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that there have been many a presidential candidate that have come before him that have stepped on some political mine fields while aabroad. the fact of the matter is in just two days he is going to be back in his hometown miami and is going to be giving the most important speech of his political life so far announcing for president. he is probably going to have to have one night of sleep before he can do that and try to get over that jet lag. this is interesting times of his campaign beforehand. it's kind of a reset moment for him to go back make his speech to go to the early contest states he'll even be on jimmy fallon. they hope he'll get some mojo back home. his republican rivals are
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now set to make their pitch to big donors this weekend as they all descend on utah for mitt romney's third annual retreat. sarah, fill us in. >> reporter: well if you are a republican running for president, this is the place you want to be to vacuum up some cash. about half does republican presidential candidates will be here to make their pitch over the next couple of days to 250 high dollar donors. today they're going to hear from wisconsin governor scott walker and chris christie. it gives them an opportunity to kick the tires on these can't candidates. there are also speeches. >> republican candidates are meeting at the mitt romney retreat. they're going to do hot air
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balloon rides, horse back riding and also skeet shooting. i wonder if they're going to do zumba. on the democratic side a huge weekend for the leading contender. hillary clinton gives her first big speech in her first big political rally. what will she say? and will she weigh in on the biggest issues. cnn learning moments ago that the president's big trade bill could be headed for defeat.
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what will voters think of that message? joining me now to discuss that senior spokesperson for hillary clinton's campaign karen finney. so nice to see you always. let's talk about this speech big speech big crowd, big rally, the first one of this campaign for this former secretary of state. we're told not a policy speech. she's not going to layout specific proposals. >> she'll talk about ideas. what voters want to know and where we want to shift this part of the campaign is to give people a sense of what motivates hillary clinton. what have been the forces in her life and the experiences in her life that have shaped who she is and how she thinks about where the country need to go. as you point out, it will be personal. you'll hear her talk a lot about her mother. her mother's experience really had a strong impact on hillary
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at a young age in terms of understanding -- her mother was abandoned as a child. by the grace of god, people came in and helped her mother achooeieve great things. hillary realizes kids are vulnerable. if you zroent the fortune of having someone look out for you or help you, what happens to those kids? that has driven to her to work at the children's defense fund. looking at kids and families and that's really driven a lot of her passion. >> the speech will be more rodham than clinton perhaps. what does it say, though that someone who has been in public life for a long time -- what does it say now that she runs for president for a second time that she's reaching back not to her own past but to her mother's past to find a story that
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connects with voters? >> i've known hillary clinton almost 25 years. she's one of the most unknown well-known people. by that i mean people think they know a lot about hillary clinton. there's been so much that's not necessarily about who she is and her values and her believes and what motivates perher. what people want to know is can i trust this person to do what is going to be good for my family and for me and for this country? part of when voters make this decision is having a sense of, okay i understand what motivates this person. i get that this person understands my life and concerns. >> you called her one of the most unknown known people. one of the things that's unknown currently in this campaign is where she stands on one of the big issues to the democratic party, the trade promotion
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authority, the fast track vote. there's going to be a vote today or we thought there's going to be a vote today. jake tapper reported that democratic sources are telling him there aren't the votes there to pass it. what would the secretary of state think of that? >> she's been very clear about this. she's said a couple of things. she's voted for trade agreements in the past and against trade eemt agreements. she wants to see the final language. number one, she's concerned about these issues of currency manipulation and she's got concerns about are we protecting workers. and number two our national security. does it keep america safe? given how dysfunctional congress has been to say i want to see the final language makes sense. >> today they're saying should the president have fast track authority? would hillary clinton, where she in the senate today, would she vote to give him that fast track
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authority? >> i think she would want to see the language. >> she knows what's in it though. >> saying you roughly know what's in something that could have huge implications in this country, that's not like saying i i want to see where we end up. how are we going to ensure against currency manipulation -- how are we going to do that. >> the difference here is that he's actually read where the trade agreement stand right now. that's the only difference you think? >> that's part of it certainly. i think the other piece of it is this is where she's coming from on this issue. but i would also point she's heard voters talked about small
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businesses and one of the things that this ramp up period has given her the opportunity to here what people want to talk about. it's been heroin and opiate addiction, which is a huge problem in this country. >> it is to important. we have heard the secretary talk about this. i think it's a very important issue. i do not think you're going to tell me where the secretary opposes or supports this measure. a number of small bases, perhaps sending in hundreds more u.s. troops. would hillary clinton support more u.s. troops training iraqis? >> her position she support's the president's position on this which has been that the united states needs to be in the role of training. and this announcement i think is consistent with that from her perspective, from her perspective. the idea being that the iraqis have got to dobe the ones in the
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lead. >> it's great to have you here with us. we're getting ever closer to election day. let's throw up the clock right now. 514 days 16 hours, 30 minutes and four seconds. practically tomorrow. thank you so much. what do you think about the trade issues right now? is the secretary saying enough? use the hashtag new day cnn or post to facebook.com/newday. a cleveland judge finding probable cause to charge the officers in the shooting death of tamir rice. the world is filled with air. but for people with copd sometimes breathing air can be difficult. if you have copd, ask your doctor about once-daily anoro ellipta. it helps people with copd breathe better for a full 24hours. anoro ellipta is the first fda-approved product containing two long-acting bronchodilators in one inhaler.
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a cleveland judge is backing charges against officers in the shooting death of tamir rice just 12 years old he was shot at a reck center while playing with a pellet gun. still a lot of question marks about whether it's going to pass the house. some new information about german wings copilot andreas lubitz. lubitz feared going blind. he saw 41 doctors in the last seven years. and the golden state warriors are back on track, tying the nba finals at two games apiece. they the game last night 103-82.
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police officer timothy lohman talking about the probable cause to charge the officer in the shooting death of tamir rice. rice was shot and killed last november by the officers while the little boy was playing with a pellet gun. we bring in the attorney for the rice family. thank you so much for joining us mr. madison. first i want to get the family's reaction to this announcement from the judge. >> they're encouraged. their enthusiasm has been renewed. trust has been the touch stone issue here with relationships between african americans and law enforcement. i think the family can see their way out or at least see they're on a path towards justice. >> i want to bring up the specific charges that this judge recommended. we're talking about murder charges perhaps for one of the officers the one who pulled the trigger. and that is timothy lohman. he could face murder
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manslaughter wreck lastreck lastless homicide. important to note this was just an advisory decision by the judge. these men have not been arrested. the prosecutor really does have control in this case. do you expect the prosecutor to move this case forward? >> well, the historic nature is a wonderful blueprint worthy of emulation throughout all 50 states. what it says it says that the public the people have engaged in a system is. they can see the transparency. and the senior most judge in the municipal court of over 30 years has agreed there's probable cause that there should be an arrest. and another set of public servants who also work for the people they have a choice now. the people have been validated
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and vindicated in the judge's ruling. let's see how much deference they give to the people if they truly want and are interested in building a good relationship between the african american community and law enforcement. >> you talked about that importance of trust. do you trust the prosecutor to handle this case fairly? >> well clearly the cleveland eight and the community and the international community does not. we know that there should be an independent prosecutor. that's been recommended by not only our president but by our governor as well. the community, the family doesn't understand the reluctance to let this go and do as the people wish. public servants apparently needed to be reminded of that. and the cleveland eight did just that. they serve the public. >> let me read you what the prosecutor has said about what could happen next in this case saying this case as with all
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other fatal use of deadly force cases involving law enforcement officers will go to the grand jury. that has been the policy of this office since i was elected. ultimately the grand jury decides whether police officers are charged or not. now, i know it's been more than six months but the prosecutor just got this case in the last couple of weeks. do you feel like maybe it's taken so long because all the people involved in the case are trying to dot i's and cross t's as they continue to pursue justice? >> well i do know that the judge in this case agreed with the people and the other 4 mill people who see the video. he was thunder struck as the world is. policy is not law. whatever policy this particular prosecutor may have had since he's been in office which has not been that long nowhere near as long as judge adrian has been on the bench, must give way to
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law. also bad policy in the police department lead to a lot of fatalities and deaths in the community. so that culture will always eat policy for lunch. >> now the police union has responded. i'm sorry. i didn't mean to step on your toes there, but i do think it's important the bring up their response because they feel like perhaps they've been unfairly targeted. it was sad how miserable the lives of these activists must be. i can't imagine being so very consumed with anger and hatred trying to coerce public officials into filing a criminal charge under direct or indirect threat of mob rule. it's a very dangerous game. what's your response? >> ohio is at the heart of it all. in ohio for years longer than that individual's been alive, it's been the law that citizens may participate in their government as it should be.
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that participation leads to transparency which ultimately leads to trust and legitimacy. you would think if he were truly interested in that he would encourage this because when you have legitimate authority you have individuals more likely to obey. when they obey there's no need to have a fuselage of 137 bullets dispatched into a car to unarmed citizens. >> we'll have to leave it there. i know this is still going to be an ongoing case. thank you so much for joining us. >> you're welcome. so she was given months to live. now valerie harper is opening up about her battle against cancer. the important message she has for all of us. that's ahead.
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cancer. >> i'm fighting and winning by the way. >> yes, you are. you're winning your fight. >> against cancer. who knew? i was real di ready to goly read did to go. i said it's incurable and terminal. and my husband says so far. something's coming. >> i've had the pleasure of meeting you. have you always been a positive person? i sense that's what made a difference in your health battle. >> i absolutely urge people don't give up. don't be negative. there's so much you can do. mainly it's just to trust your own intuition and try things. do what your doctor says. in my case it's broken very easy because it's working. and my doctor i go to him all the time. i said please this one --
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please i get so tired. i waste -- not waste, but kind of waste two days of the week a day and a half. >> nobody would fault you for that. >> no no one would. i get exhausted and i lay there watching television and i see all your shows. >> you're talking about that cute chris cuomo. i heard about that. >> oh god, he's wonderful. >> he really is. how do you deal with the days when you are tired? what do you do? people are suffering out there and they look at you as a shining example, valerie. you're not letting this diagnosis rule you. >> i'm working with a great group called the american lung association. they have an initiative they built from the ground up. it's called lung force. it's aimed at women because more women are dying of lung cancer than any other kind of cancer. and they don't know it.
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only 1% think it's a threat. get screened find out what's going on work with your doctor. if you want to go yoga -- >> exactly. find some peace. >> i do intuition stuff. the drug is working. it's to aggressively remove cancer everywhere. value valerie al nouns announces. >> i've living for him because he's so adorable. nobody said to me don't accept it. here's the thing, with this particular disease, i could drop dead in the street tomorrow because there's very little space where this cancer is.
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and i don't have any tumors. >> but you're at peace with it? >> well yes. you know what i'm at peace with darling? dying. most of us aren't. most of us avoid it. we don't want to look at death because that means we're going to die. if you do if you say oh my god i have to take this pill and do that if that's that that's that. then i thought to myself we're all there. we're all terminal. >> we don't get out of this alive, do we any of us? >> exactly. don't go to the funeral until the day of the funeral. i would have wasted two years and four months saying oh i'm going to die, i'm going to die soon. i don't wake up that way anymore. it's gotten better. i guess success will keep you on the right track. it's a real important thing to know that you're going to die and not rush to it do all you
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can to stay. but when it is time to go just go. but then you have to go that day, that hour that minute. you don't have to live your life in fear of dying. >> valerie is an inspiration to be sure. you can learn more about lung force. you can also join walks to raise awareness at lung force.org. >> that is an inspirational message. great to here it. the good stuff, that's next. ♪ one on the left and one on the right. ♪ ♪ can't tell them apart try as you might. ♪ ♪ but a wise man once said that the secret to life ♪ ♪ is to find one that don't look the same. ♪
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come see what the new angie's list can do for you. it is time for the good stuff. a police officer and a game of hoops made all the difference in tacoma washington. listen to this. after a frightening domestic violence call into police, a lot of neighborhood kids were on edge. the officer took time afterwards to make sure the kids were okay. >> i remember when i was a kid and you see a cop. you think they're the coolest guys in the world and want to talk to them. i thought i would play them in a game of horse. i didn't do that to try to do anything other than show kids
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that not all cops -- you shouldn't be scared of them. they put the video on facebook. and it went viral. the kid say it made them feel better and it changed their opinion of police for the better. >> community policing right there. >> and looked like a lot of fun to boot. it's time for "cnn newsroom with carol costello." good morning. you guys have a great weekend. on the best day of all. it's friday. "newsroom" starts now. happening now on the "newsroom," bloodhounds chasing the scent of escaped killers. >> we hope to be successful within the next 24 hours. >> new information about what they would be eating where they may be sleeping as police seal off an entire town. >> i feel like i'm going crazy being indoors. i feel like a prisoner in my own home. >> and did this prison worker offer them help for love? >> there is
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