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understand hillary clinton of what is motivating her career, motherhood is a part of her story. will that be effective and endearing, do you think? >> i think so. and it is a way for hillary clinton to reintroduce herself to voters. it seems odd that such a well-known person is trying to put a new image of herself to the world. but they have to try to freshen up the campaign and dwelling on her mother's struggles after the great depression is a way to connect to hillary clinton specially. and also getting across this theme of hillary clinton being someone that really understands the economic struggles of every day americans. >> stephen collinson, thank you so much. be sure to watch tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. with jake tapper. the next hour of "new day" starts now. >> this is cnn breaking news. oh, my god.
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>> the breaking news this morning, a shoot-out and explosion in front of dallas police headquarters. officers say for the first time we are under attack. right now a standoff continues with a suspect. at least one. and the second big story we're watching today, images of joyce mitchell, the prison seam stress waking up in jail after her late night arraignment. this while texas authorities are issuing a bulletin to lookout for the new york murderers. good morning. glad to have you with us. i'm christie paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. we start with breaking news in dallas with the active standoff continuing in texas after suspects armed with automatic weapons we are told and explosives attack the dallas police department headquarters.
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you can hear everybody in the background. and there they go, that is what started the chase there. you see police car after car and the ones coming in behind it to go after that van that just rammed into the car. this is what else we know at this hour. this attack started at approximately 1:30 this morning. 12:30, i believe. >> 1:30 eastern. >> 1:30 eastern. windows shattered at police headquarters and bullets pierced squad cars. take a look at some of the video or picture that is the police department there in dallas have tweeted out. we are happy to tell you no one was injured. that is the good news. canine dogs, we understand, have searched the area. after more explosive devices were found, here again are some of the latest pictures we are getting. we just learned the headquarters is now all clear. now police chased that one or more suspects inside that armored van, cornered them in a parking lot near interstate 45 and i-20. and the suspects are refusing to exit the vehicle, at which point
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the s.w.a.t. team was called in. that standoff with police is still ongoing right now. one suspect told cops that his name is james boulware and is angry because they took away his child and labeled him a terrorist. listen here to the news conference where police were talking to him a short while ago. >> on june 13 at approximately 12:30 a.m., witnesses observed what they believed to be multiple suspects firing guns at the dallas police department's headquarters located at 1400 south lamar street. the suspects were parked in front of police headquarters as police officers arrived the suspects rammed the dallas police officer's squad car and began shooting at the officers. striking the squad cars but
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missing the officers. the officers returned fire at which time the suspect fled. the location of the witnesses is an armored vehicle. officers gave chase in their police car south of dallas to a parking lot near the jack-in-the-box in hutchins, texas. the car parked and stopped there at around 12:44 a.m. while in the parking lot, there was another exchange of gunfire between the suspects and officers. squad cars were struck during that exchange. however, no officers were
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injured. the suspects refused to exit the vehicle, at which time officers set up a perimeter. the s.w.a.t. team was called and has since began negotiations with the suspect. s.w.a.t. officers are currently talking with the suspect by cell phone and trying to find a peaceful solution. the suspect gave a name to identify himself but we have not confirmed that's him. that name he gave us was james boulware. b-o-u-l-w-a-r-e. he's a white male, 5'10", 200 pounds. witnesses at police headquarters gave preliminary information that there might be more than one suspect. there might be up to four suspects. and of these suspects, they were
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shooting at police headquarters and at police officers from different locations, possibly elevated locations. but we have yet to confirm that witness information. the dallas police headquarters and all seven of the police substations are secure. our explosive ordinance detonation unit is investigating four suspicious bags left in front of the dallas police headquarters. as i was walking out to talk to one of you all, one of the bags have been confirmed by the bomb squad to have explosives in them. pipe bombs is what has been described to me by the explosive unit. we are in the process of evacuating residents of the south side of the lamar complex located at 1409 south lamar street. i reiterate, no dallas officers
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have been injured. this is a preliminary investigation. this is an active investigation, meaning the police headquarter scene is an active shooter's scene until we confirm first that there are no other suspects at that scene waiting to ambush officers. and we have ongoing discussions with the suspect in hutchin. the suspect has told our negotiators that we took his child and we accused him of being a terrorist and that he's going to blow us up. and then cut off negotiations. we cannot confirm a motive at this time. what we are asking for from the public, we need their support. we need information.
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we have learned through social media that several witnesses used their cell phones to video the suspects shooting at officers from various locations in and around police headquarters during the first gunfire exchange. so we are asking any and all witnesses to forward any video or to contact us from social media to give us that information. i'm going to give several ways the public can do that. first, anonymously you can send us information through the iwatch dallas app available in the app store or on google play. you can use twitter @dallaspd. dallas police department, you can also see us on facebook. we'll be updating the public on
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the dpd blog. and you can e-mail our public information officer information about any information you have regarding these suspects in this incident through the pio @pd pio @pdd@dallas.com. >> reporter: can you confirm there is one suspect in the van? >> we can confirm there's one suspect in the van. we hear from eyewitnesss there's a suspect who failed to get in the van, so there potentially are four suspects according to witnesses. >> joining me now from our
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former new york city police commissioner and cnn law enforcement analyst and former fbi assistant director tom fuentes, it seems they are trying to determine how many suspects they are really dealing with. help us understand how they move forward at this point? >> i think one of the most important ways is getting the video and getting the communications and cooperation from the community. and the people who have seen this firsthand, they will be doing a background on the guy that they think they have in the van. it's strange if this guy listening to this story, if this guy's child was taken, he was accused of being a terrorist. but he has three accomplices. i don't know, it seems a bit strange to it. i think there's something more to it but time will tell. >> if there are, indeed, three more accomplices, tom fuentes, as we look at what happens here,
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they are processing two scenes. they are in the middle of the standoff and dealing with 911 calls coming in for other issues and trying to deal with evacuees. they are reaching out to the red cross to get refreshments for those who can't go back to their homes yet. they are seven hours into this thing, help us understand how the department is dealing. >> christi, the department has those coming off the midnight shift extending and those who come in on the early morning shift will coming in early. and they can bring in people who are on vacation time in early if they are available. so they can do this for a short time, 24 hours to 36 hours pending. for the long time, they need supplement from other agencies but they just have to ask and will have hundreds of officers from the department of public
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safety, which is basically the texas state police equivalent. fort worth p.d. nearby. all the suburban dallas departments nearby. so there are many resources out there for them to call on. and particularly, atf and fbi to help with the bullet holes they have in police stations and police cars, the bomb site and the explosive residue and all that which will have to be transported to a lab for further examination. so there's plenty of resource out in the middle somewhere. they can get all the people they need. >> it is interesting, they did tweet out this is the first time dallas police department headquarters has been under attack. those are two important words they used with that, commissioner karig, that they are under attack. you just talked about how you have questions of them looking possibly for four suspects but there's one man that seems to have his own issues.
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how could he -- coerce somebody else into this with him? how do you think they are going to be able to determine that if they are still in the middle of the standoff with him? how do they get answers from this? >> well, i think the most important thing right now is the negotiations. they are ongoing. they don't know what is in that van and already know he's had explosives. i hoknow we have seen damage do by the explosion when they tried to move the package with the robot. they have to be extremely careful. the main thing right now is to get him out of that vehicle to determine what is in the vehicle and determine if there's anybody else in the vehicle and secure that vehicle itself. because he could have explosives in there. zblm yes, tom fuentes, we do understand that's one of the things we are concerned about, explosives possibly in the van
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as well. help us understand the conversation they are trying to have with him to get him to exit the van. >> hopefully he's still talking to police. we don't know if he's caught off. also, if by cell phone with the engine disabled, he'll run out of battery and won't start the engine to renew the battery. whether he'll accept a negotiating phone, and that is doubtful. but if this is occurring, police are telling him, you have not killed anybody. nobody has died in this incident. yeah, you have a couple bombs and will minimize that and say to end this peacefully. you can still survive and your friends can still survive. there's no reason to go down in a blaze of glory here. let's surrender, call it a day and nobody's harmed. >> all righty. and there are seven, all of them, including the suspects. seven hours into this, you have
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to wonder what the suspects are thinking. we'll check back in with you, thank you. we just learned from a major in dallas with the dallas police department that the other packages, you remember two of them were confirmed to have explosives. the other bags were filled with trash we learned from the dallas police department. again, two with explosives and others turned out to be trash. we'll get more on that story and the other breaking news story we are following this morning. new images of top prison employee accused of helping the prison escapees. we'll take a look at the charges filed against her and what her punishment could be. plus, as hundreds of officers take part in a search for the two inmates from upstate new york. officers in texas are being asked to be on the lookout for
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this video just into cnn of an armored van slamming into a police vehicle. and now you see a police chase ensue. now there's a standoff in the parking lot near two interstates. we'll go now to a reporter from "the dallas morning news" that has been with us all morning following developments in dallas. what is the status of the negotiations now? have negotiations resumed or what is happening through? >> reporter: we are told the negotiations are still ongoing. we are told the suspect in the vehicle is disavailabled, so we are just sitting here waiting out the conclusion of it. >> we heard from the dallas police department chief this morning in the news conference that this suspect, one of them has identified himself as james
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boulware, white male, 5'10", 200 pounds. police have not confirmed he is james boulware and know there could be up to four suspects total involved. we'll talk about boulware specifically. what have you learned about this man? >> reporter: james boulware was arrested back in 2013 for making threats against churches, his family. he was wanted here in dallas on a felony warrant. he was arrested in paris, texas, which is north of here, but he was arrested and he was also -- he had a possession of marijuana charge. so he has a history that would suggest someone that would be involved in this. and from what police said, the suspect told them something about them taking his kids away from him.
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and they had labeled him a terrorist. so this matches that story. >> again, i want to tell you that police have not been able to authentically confirm the name or confirm the man they are negotiating with or attempting to negotiate with. he said he is james boulware, so we thank you for that, tristan. we also heard from the major with the police department that the headquarters has been cleared, meaning there's no longer a threat to that facility. however, we understand there is still a search ongoing for explosives in other locations, is that right? >> reporter: right. they had their bomb-sniffing dogs out here searching all around. obviously, two bags had explosives in them, initially they thought it was five. two of them had trash in them, but they are concerned there could be some more elsewhere.
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five were initially suspected. they only knew about four. they ended up finding the fifth one beneath a police car. so they are being very diligent in trying to find, make sure they got everything. >> okay, tristan, stay with us. i want to bring in a cnn law enforcement analyst who is chief of the de kalb county police department in georgia. cedrick, as investigators try to learn more about james boulware and potentially up to three other suspects here, what is the work that's being done that we don't see? >> well, what you're seeing not done is the confirmation of the name. at least the name they are given, they do have to make verification. also, they are going to be looking at particularly known persons associated to his past and present as well, too. so there will be a lot of behind-the-scenes work going on, victor, in terms of trying to get a positive identification of
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that subject or subjects that are involved in this event this morning. >> last word from the chief there, david brown in dallas, this man who identified himself as james boulware has not been confirmed by the department, but he cut off negotiations. we don't know if those have resumed. but what is the give and take? what could james boulware want? and what would the department or negotiators be willing to engage in to get this to end and bring it all to a safe ending here? >> well, one thing we have to be very careful of here, victor, is we don't want to be too speculative in all of this. and we also want to be aware of the fact, too, that as this continues to unfold, and even if they have lost contact with him, there's this possibility that reengaging that conversation with him telephonically is going
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to pick back up hopefully at some point. but i think it's just too many things that are happening right now that we cannot answer. and we want to be careful not to speculate too much of. in addition to that, as well, too, in your first question, a lot of behind-the-scenes work is going on. and dallas pd was straight-forward with sharing the information with you all as it continues to break. so i think if we give ourselves a little time this morning, the more information we receive i think we'll be better able to draw a little bit more conclusion or at least be able to speculate a little bit more accurately as we continue throughout the morning. but this is a full-scale attack placed against the dallas police department. and here again, we want to encourage the community here at large in dallas, that if they have additional footage, get that to chief brown at which he's requesting from the community to be supportive of
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right now. >> let's talk about it from that perspective. you are police chief there. we have the video here on the screen from the skies. this area appears to be shut down here. the first daylight live video we see here from the sky of the situation there in dallas, but we just received this tweet out from the major there thanking everyone for their well wishes. fortunately, no officers were injured. i mean, you have been on cnn's air talking about unfortunately several attacks on police officers in the last six months to a year. and now you see what appears to be a highly coordinated attack against dallas officers. aside from the details here, back up a few steps and look at the whole picture. what is your reaction to what we're seeing play out? >> well, i mean, what we're seeing playing out, you know, normally over the last few months police have come under a
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great deal of scrutiny. but here again, we have this particular situation, which i don't know if we can necessarily tie to any of the past events, but what we do know is that we have someone who is saying that he was personally affected by the police in terms of his son being arrested. if i recall correctly. here again, we have to make sure we look at each and every one of these situations. they are looked at very differently. this is a very challenging time in american policing at this very moment we are living in. but we also have to take into account, there are a lot of things going on around the country and around the globe that might be directly or indirectly related to this. we don't know as of yet. and that's what we have to be very cautious of. is to allow time for the dallas police department to do their work and investigate this. they are reporting information they feel is pertinent for the
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public to know and are doing a good job at that. and they continue to take that information and share as much as we can with the public. but we need to be very supportive of them at this very moment because here again, this was a full-blown attack on the american police department and that is totally unacceptable. >> cedrick, i want to reiterate to our viewers what they are seeing. this is live video, live aerial footage of what we believe may be an area where that suspect may be holed up in a van. you can see some police lights there. you can see them flickering just a little bit every once in a while on the left-hand side of the screen. and it looks like a lot of police cars there as well from certain vantage points as this continues to change angles here. but i'm wondering, one of the things that needs to be nailed down first and foremost to get a grip on this is how many suspects they are dealing with. there were reports, the police said a witness reported, someone tried to get into the van and was not able to do so and
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perhaps ran off. how do they determine other than trying to talk to whoever is in the vail right now. how many people may have been involved at this point. how do they figure this out as they are 7 1/2 hours in? >> well, at this point in the active investigation, i think it's going to be important to consider a number of things. one, they have witness statements in which they are going to use to assist them. in terms of making that determination. we don't know what has been described as of yet. two, to the police when they had the one suspect on the telephone, i think things continued to unfold this morning more, but we'll learn more on what that number is. we'll look at dallas being a potential four to five people involved. >> you think potentially four to five people are involved?
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do you think that because you don't believe that one person could pull off what we have seen so far this morning? and again, just let me say for our viewers just joining us and looking at this, you might see in the middle of the screen there it looks like that black van. we believe that was the van that police were chasing. and you can see some police lights going off as well. but i just wanted to give viewers some sort of context as to what we're looking at right now. but cedrick, please go ahead, what makes you believe there may be so many suspects involved here? >> here again, we are talking about witness statements very early on, police statements and the witness statements you reported there on the scene that it may be more than one person involved. what i need to be very clear about is that dallas police is going to approach this, i'm quite sure, that there may be multiple subjects involved. until there's some verification of that. now, what we know based on what we have been hearing and seeing so far this morning, is that they were or still are or still is in contact with one person on
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the phone. should that be the case, they may have more information that we are aware of at this prticular moment. but to your question, did it take more than one person to launch that assault and to be able to put explosive devices in and around that police station. it probably took more than one person to do that. and it very well could be. it very well could be multiple subjects involved. >> let me ask you something as we are looking at this video and we believe this is where negotiations are happening right now. although i should say, we don't know. there are questions as to whether the negotiations are still ongoing or whether they have stopped. what happens if talks break down? what happens if whoever is in that van doesn't start talking. then what? >> well, if the van has been disabled, they are not going to go anywhere until this comes to
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some end, whatever that may look like. but they are not going to go anywhere. hopefully communication will pick back up. it is not unusual in a situation like this that communication is broken off. we have to be patient. those negotiatiors are very wel trained. hopefully the communication will pick back up so this comes to a peaceful end. but we'll be briefed on that eventually, i'm quite sure. but it is not unusual for communication to be broken off in a situation like this and to later on be picked up again. but one thing in all of this, they are surrounded and not going anywhere. >> all right. i just want to get in here, we have some new information in. you see in the center of your screen live here from our affiliate there in dallas ktvt. video of the situation in the
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parking lot of the jack-in-the-box restaurant. that armored van there with police cars surrounding it. on the left of your screen you'll see a picture of a van that was sold on e-bay last week. and here's what we know about this van. a source familiar with the ongoing investigation says officials are looking into whether a van that resembles a van sold in newman, georgia, last week could be the same quote/unquote armored van used in the dallas police attack. they are investigating who may have purchased the vehicle. again, if you look in the picture on the left and it's a tiny, tiny little shot that you have because it's so far off from the aerial shot that we had. but they are trying to determine, the investigators are trying to determine if the van you see live on the right here is the van you see on the left. which is a photograph from
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e-bay, an armored van sold last week in newman, georgia. and this, of course, will be a large part of the investigation. not only determining the purchaser of the van, but hopefully having conversations with the seller of the van on e-bay. how important is this detail for the investigation, cedrick? >> it's going to be critically important. if it is determined that this particular van may have some tentacles attached to it. back in my home state of georgia, you can be certain that dallas police will be working very closely with the georgia authorities there in this active investigation to follow this information that you all have just aware d become aware that
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this is an active investigation as you heard chief brown state earlier. this is a very active investigation. a lot is going to unfold over the next few hours. and we want to know more about that van and its origination. it may have been acquired and made its way to dallas. >> we discussed with tom fuentes this morning, another cnn law enforcement analyst, kind of dissecting and taking apart these explosive devices that reportedly either detonated or were found near police headquarters would eventually lead police to a suspect. now having possibly the handle, the screen name on e-bay, could also not -- obviously not lead them to a person, but other purchasing over the last several days and weeks. >> yes, absolutely. scene this is part of the investigation.
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they don't have their own particular set of finger prints on them, meaning this. how they were designed and developed, all those experts in the field, atf, dallas police bomb squad, everyone is going to play a significant role in tracing that evidence down with the help of federal authorities and local authorities in and around the dallas community. so there's a lot of active investigation that is actually taking place here in the area as we speak. and this is going to continue throughout the night, but this is a very active investigation in dallas this morning. >> excellent point. we heard from major max garren there on the scene that a few miles away in the parking lot of a restaurant the standoff
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continues. we don't know if negotiations are active at this point, but the standoff certainly is. cedrick alexander and tristan hallman, thank you for your reports. we'll be right back on the manhunt across new york and across the country for two suspects killers. stay with us. ned... every day... using wellness to keep away illness... and believing that a single life can be made better by millions of others. healthier takes somebody who can power modern health care... by connecting every single part of it. for as the world keeps on searching for healthier... we're here to make healthier happen. optum. healthier is here. i love making sunday dinners. but when my back hurt, cooking all day... forget about it. tylenol was ok, but it was 6 pills a day. but aleve is just 2 pills all day. and now, i'm back!
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about the negotiations. this morning the driver of the van rammed a police cruiser, shot at police headquarters, and there were two explosives discovered. at least one detonated. and we just got an update from the dallas police department through their official twitter page in which they say the suspicious package that was investigating in a dumpster at the northeast substation has been cleared. it was not an explosive. we know that one of the four bags that were found outside of the headquarters, one did detonate on its own. the others were trash. we learned from major max garrett. and the major is tweeting this morning that the effort is always to secure a peaceful resolution in these situations. but that is not always possible. we'll continue to follow this developing story. it's breaking all morning long. we are waiting for an update
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from dallas police. but we should expect that in the next couple of hours. >> and we'll bring that to you when it happens, of course. and you can see there, too, a note that i-45 is closed in both directions if you do happen to be in the area near i-20. they are closed. and we have another breaking news story this morning, the hunt for the two convicted killer who is escaped from the upstate new york prison. their alleged complex joyce mitchell is waking up in jail after pleading not guilty. here are the first pictures we are seeing of her now as she's accused of helping richard matt and david sweat escape. court documents now reveal she gave them hacksaw blades, chisels, drill bits. that helped them to break out of prison. plus texas police officers are asked to be on the lookout for inmate richard matt specifically. why? apparently he has family ties in a south texas border city and officials warn that matt may have intentions to cross into
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mexico. cnn investigations correspondent sarah gannon is joining us live in west plattsburgh, new york. that is near where they are searching. what are you learning this morning? >> reporter: we are learning the eastern edge of the search perimeter has a sense of urgency here. every week that comes through the intersection is searched by law enforcement officials. and in this search area, there are more than 800 law enforcement officials, local, state and federal searching, chasing leads. more than 700 leads so far. but those two convicted killers are still on the run. however this morning, the woman who police say helped them escape is now behind bars. >> the department is charged here with two offenses. >> reporter: shackled and appearing terrified, prison taylor turned prisoner joyce mitchell was arraigned late friday night accused of helping
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richard matt and david sweat break out of the corrections facility. she is charged with misdemeanor of a criminal facilitation charge. >> bail will be set in the amount of $100,000 cash, $200,000 bond on felony. and $10,000 cash and $20,000 bond on the misdemeanor. >> reporter: the two killers have been on the run for a week but joyce faces years behind bars. she provided hacksaw blades, chisels and drill bits to cut their way out of prison. but she got cold feet, authorities say, when it came time to get behind the wheel as the getaway driver. since then, joyce has been cooperating with police. she told investigators that matt made her feel special, but sources tell cnn she had a relationship with both prisonerers. and it gets even more complicated. joyce is married to a fellow prison worker who is now also under investigation. lyle mitchell who worked in the
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maintenance department of the same tailoring block where he worked and where both fugitives worked. >> we have information that is coming through through interview interviews for our investigation that he possibly could have been involved or had knowledge of what was happening. >> reporter: any idea what his role might have been? >> we have information on what part of his role would be. and i hate to keep saying this to everyone, but this is an investigation that not only is focusing on, obviously, taking matt sweat back into custody but pursuing other people involved. >> reporter: blood hounds picked up a scent a mile away at a gas station but nothing has panned out with an intense manhunt continuing. this is the eighth day of searching. and residents here are tired of this and are scared, quite
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frankly, when this first happened. they believed the two would be long gone, far away from the community by the time that law enforcement officials realized that they had escaped. but now evidence seems to show that they are probably still in this area. there's a strong possibility. and they are nervous about that. this is a highly wooded area. now yesterday the search seemed to intensify for a few moments when a woman posted to facebook that two men were seen scaling a wall near her parents' house and authorities responded with atv-altering vehicles and other equipment, but ultimately nothing was found. >> sarah gannon, we appreciate the update, thank you. we'll talk more about joyce mitchell and what is next for her. we'll get insight into the charges against her. we have hln legal analyst and criminal attorney joey jackson. joey, good to have you with us this morning. we'll look at the charges here. pleaded not guilty to both felony and misdemeanor charges with the most serious being promoting prison contraband.
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how do you start to build this defense with a client who has been so forthcoming with the information about what she is handing over to these escapees. >> sure, victor, good to be with you. and that certainly will play in her favor, ultimately. and just taking a step back before moving forward, there are very strict rules in prison regarding even, you know, speaking with inmates, establishing relationships with inmates. and that goes for correction officers who i represent in my other life in addition to other civilian employees who are there. it is for this reason because the closeness of that relationship makes you vulnerable. so here we have a woman charged with the charges, which we should look at and examine, but the question then becomes how does she get out from under this and what the potential penalties will be. it's a felony, a d-felony. the way it works in new york state anyway is you have eight
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felonies, most serious, eight years to life. she's facing a d-felony and could serve up to seven years with. whenever you introduce prison contraband, that's something illegal into a facility that could otherwise injury someone or worse, help a prisoner escape from a prison. you have to be very accountable to that because we see what it can lead to. i think what the defense team will do is continue that cooperation with the authorities in an effort to mitigate and lessen her punishment and to give each one information helpful to their capture. i think the defense will also speak to issues of her psychological state. i'm not at all giving the indication that she's damaged or crazy, there's no such information out there like that, but certainly i think they preyed upon her vulnerability. and preyed upon perhaps her n
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naivity. i think because she was so vulnerable, the defense will use that to their advantage in addition to the fact that she was helpful. that can help in the plea deal. and the other charge is criminal solicitation. what we should be remember about that is when you provide material aid to someone and give them the means and opportunity to commit a crime, you're on the hook for that. so i don't know she'll escape liability here and criminal responsibility, but she shouldn't because it's a deterrent to others. but her continued cooperation could bring them in and potentially find their whereabouts. so she's a valuable witness at this point. >> yeah, i'm sure you have been to the criminal solicitation there. >> facilitation, thank you. >> yes, just to clear that up. joyce mitchell is back in court on monday. what should we expect in that
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appearance? >> not much at this point. remember what's happening, there needs to be after the charges the matter to be presented to a grand jury. we are not there yet. and certainly there's going to be a conference before the court. i'm sure her attorneys will be speaking with and continuing to speak to the prosecutor in terms of how to further cooperate. whether they should get indictment if she is cooperating, they want to continue to keep her close, continue to keep her in custody and continue to keep the pressure on her to give all the information available. because at the end of the day, certainly she needs to be held accountable. but the bigger picture is capturing the fugitives so they do not endanger the community any further than they potentially have. >> joey jackson, thank you so much. we'll follow that case and the search for two escaped inmates. >> we are following breaking news out of dallas. we have a live picture of the
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all right. we are bringing you back to breaking news in dallas today. but first we'll go to hillary clinton giving her first major campaign speech today. she's speaking at roosevelt island in new york. bill and chelsea clinton will also be there. breanna keilar is there as well. i understand she's going to be talking at her rodham roots over the clinton roots. what's the strategy here?
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>> reporter: that's exactly right. she's trying to show she's a candidate in her own right. and she's really defining herself. not so much in the shadow of her husband but with her own accomplishments and also with her own story. this is really the first big pitch that she is making to a wide array of americans since she declared her candidacy a couple months ago. she's been going through the early states of iowa, new hampshire, south carolina and nevada. having the small roundtables, this is a rally of not the biggest size of rally venue i have seen, but this is going to have the real campaign feel as you can see behind me. and we will see, we're expecting to see hillary clinton really looking back in time. talking about her mother, dorothy rodham, who since she last ran for president has passed away. dorothy rodham had hard scrabble roots and really relied on other people and certainly on herself to get by and succeed in life. she'll also be talking about certainly the message of franklin and eleanor roosevelt.
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this is, after all, four freedoms park on roosevelt island. so that imagery of the roosevelts fighting for the middle class is going to be something we expect her to evoke. but this is certainly an inspirational message she's going for at this point to try to pull the focus away from what would be a clinton dynasty, christi, if she is to become the nominee and perhaps to be elected. because here you said bill clinton and chelsea clinton will be here. bill clinton is not going to speak. this is the hillary clinton show here today. and even though she's the frontrunner, she's not without challenges. a lot of americans in recent polls show she's competent but has troubles proving she is trustworthy. >> she is not getting deep into policy with this one, is that right? >> reporter: yeah, that's what
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we're expecting. that's what we have heard from the campaign, so i think we are going to hear policy items, but i think they are managing expectations. the question is, is there going to be enough meat on the bones? there are a lot of americans who want to hear what her policies are going to be and she doesn't outline them very detailed today. we expect that that's something she'll doe in the coming weeks and months. >> breanna keilar, thank you so much. we are following breaking news happening out of dallas. we have a live picture of the ongoing standoff. you can see in the center of the screen that blue van that's been described as an armored van. you can see the flashing lights of dallas police cars. this is happening after 12:30 local time this morning with the reports of shots fired at the police headquarters. then the driver of the van rammed a cruiser. there was a chase to this location. there has been a standoff there
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ever since. for more than seven hours now. we're expecting a news conference at 9:30 eastern. we'll bring that to you live. >> stay close. i'm michael smerconish, welcome to the program. we are thrilled to have senator lindsey graham joining us today. thank you for your time. >> thank you. i think i make it an even 40. >> senator, i'm eager to talk about the affordable care act to get into the status of your race. can i the tell you in doing my own research in anticipation of your being here, i learned to google lindsey graham is to have to get through hundreds of links about your marital status before you get to any substance. why in the world are people so
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