>> oh, we got it. >> amazing. >> that was incredible. >> unbelievable. xx. i'm starting to realize putting this to a vote was a terrible, terrible idea. it really makes me question are we controlled by money? we as a town have been disingenuous a bit. in the end, who really wins

here? >> marijuana, pot, grass, whatever you want to call it is probably the most dangerous drug in the united states. >> i shall continue to oppose efforts to legalize marijuana. >> i inhaled, frequently. that was the point. >> what we are doing now is creating the next big tobacco of our time. >> this is a highly regulated business. we are talking about daylighting a black market activity. >> we are on the cutting edge of a brand new industry. >> this is absolutely the next gold rush. this is the green rush. >> now the dominoes are falling. especially when you see the economic revenue. >> there is $2 billion to be had next year. i plan to take more than my fair

share. >> where are you going to move sp. >> two miles away. down airport road. there are four there already. >> that's why i'm here. >> what if somebody was selling weed out front? >> i would go out back and buy it. that's how i did it before this was legal. >> hey, john. >> brian. >> what up is this. >> i don't know what makes you feel worse. this cold i have going here or the election result. that's pretty crappy. >> when the decision was passed along by the voters, town council said, all right. we'll move a business that's been a legal business and get them out. for legalization that's a slippery slope. >> is there anything that can be

done in the meantime to push back our deadline so maybe we can ask the voters the right question which is should the cannabis club be allowed to stay put? >> ask a lawyer, there's something we can do. i've got ten wrenches in my tool box that we can put to work. >> hi, ali. >> hi, y'all. >> i thought i heard you. >> hi! >> how you doing? >> okay. hi. okay. i brought you a present. i'm sorry. this isser for your staff. >> we're happy to do it. >> this is it. it's the southerner in me. nothing helps bad times like sugar, butter. >> that was nice. it all went so fast. we didn't have time though there were weeks between the meetings to step back and think about what it would do. i think we'll have some unintended consequences now when

we talk about it all the time on council. we thought, now we'll have drug dealers downtown. >> i believe even in the conservatively favored special election with record turn out for a special election but certainly tot -- >> it's order turnout for any election in breckenridge. >> okay. >> this is our largest turnout for any election ever. >> amazing. >> most of the people were asked to turn in their ballot. there was a strong, strong campaign behind that. >> it's one thing that i didn't think we needed a campaign manager. now i'm kicking myself in the butt. it paid off for them. >> i know people you can hire. do you know who hired them? >> the opposition. >> that's who they hired. they're local but amazing. they knew. yeah. i'm sorry, y'all. >> it isn't by any means your fault. >> i know. it sucks. i hate that i'm a part of it.

>> thank you. i'm crying here. i'm sorry. >> i just feel bad for y'all. this is your life. we we're essentially sending good people out of town. >> don't they realize? i think i'm a good person. >> yeah. it's a bigger picture people aren't looking at. you guys were such a big part of the vibrant downtown. i regret how our town acted. i regret people spent $25,000 on an issue campaign that was filled with lies. >> 70-30 is not a mistake. that's a clear message to the leadership in the community that for now people don't want to have retail stores on main street. when marijuana is main stream in the u.s. let's talk about it being on main street of breckenrid breckenridge. not before then.

>> i was surprised. i thought it was going to be close. people were concerned about the what if this hurts our brand? if we end up with four, five shops in downtown. >> the town council shouldn't cede their responsibility to voterers every time the question is hard. that's what they have done. they kicked it to voters where it was susceptible to political engineering by the rich interests in town. >> there are hard feelings out there. i hope we can put it behind us and move forward. we'dcitizenry to come with us. >> brian and caitlyn can't rely on politicians. they have a strong legal claim are. we need to stand up for that and i think we can win. totally shocking. every time we have gone to a vote it's 70% in favor. you got bamboozled. >> they lumped us in with mystery store s. >> it was about whether they

wanted the amsterdam five stores of breast canc of breckenridge. i think a judge would give us an injunction but it doesn't solve your problem. you have a february 2 shutdown date. >> current law si says february 2. can the injunction provide relief from that ordinance? >> yes. we would sue and say you can't treat bcc different from a t-shirt shop. anybody you allow and prohibit later you have to grandfatherer them in. that's what we would be asking the court. stop the shutdown by the february 2 deadline. >> we have a meeting with the m.e. d. to change loeks on the 29th. can we get an injunction before then? i don't want to start the ball rolling and have to unstop it. >> we can postpone the meeting. >> the only problem is if it takes three, four weeks to schedule an appointment to come and inspect and we don't have an appointment to schedule the inspection until the first week

in january we could be out of business for 7, 10, 20, 30 days. >> i could file suit by friday for you. >> i think we have to. it's up to you. >> i don't know what to do. >> i told you, look, here is the strategy. sue the town and let's postpone the shutdown date. >> i never liked the sound or idea of suing the town. after months of our livelihood being threatened, we have still played nice. this is what we get for it. we are getting kicked out of our location. i guess we're suing the town of breckenridge. >> as awful as it sounds that's what has to happen. ♪ ♪ ♪

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this facility that it's actually operation that and producing good weights. this should be close to a 24-pound harvest. >> this is hopefully going to spear our concentrates and kitchen into cull effect. >> after we run the bud through the trimming pa charlie sheen it goes on dry aks over here. when the bud is dry it has to be weighed again, placed into packages with a batch number. >> from seed to sale there is always a camera are on me. the m. echt d. can look at the capras any time. they will see us dancing, having a good time. >> shake it. >> yeah. >> final electrical inspection was today. we passed. >> okay. >> pretty close to done. >> obviously we are going to be waiting on licensing. >> basically, we realized we

have been talking to the wrong people, getting the wrong information. the assumption we have been operating under is we had to partner with a dispensary. everything we have been told is completely false. they said it is 46 to 90 days for approval. they said to expect more like 90 now. say a month before we even get an appointment, three months before the paperwork is approved and processed. then plants go in the next day. two months to first or veharves? >> no. >> six months? >> two months of flowering. we're look willing at three to four months. >> seriously, all i want to do is get home, get high and crawl into bed, so desperateliment eight months if everything started tomorrow. >> right. >> when i originally got into

this deal, the date we spoke about was halloween. >> just to give you an idea, when i first got in the building i was looking at having a sellable product last the december. >> i don't know what i'm going to do. i have no money left. i have basically zero dollars at this point. if we had been on our timeline we would be bringing in something like $250,000 a month out of this facility. >> yeah. bottom line is we are still a good ways tr having are a product to take out to the dispensaries. [ bleep ]. >> it's so white. >> it is white. >> i want it to be green. >> me, too. >> i want it to be green. >> it will be. >> they are looking sexy. >> definitely quality. >> now it's getting important since we got booted off main street it will paycheck competition stifferer. we need to always have the best

product. >> the first harvest out of the garden, great outcome. >> smells so good. this has such a loud bubble gum smell to it. the herb should be beautiful. >> oh, yeah. i can't wait until the next flowering is built out. we can double this harvest? >> oh, my god. >> 50 pounds a week rocking. you can see the fruits of your labor. >> think about getting a snowmobile? >> i would like to. that's my next big purchase. >> i think so, too. >> yeah? let's go shopping. >> the town of breck does a million a month in marijuana sales. >> mm-hmm. >> we'll take a million a month and split it roughly four ways. if revenue is cut in half, we need less than half of the employees we have now.

it will be difficult to get moved in 60 days. there may be a period where the wreck ridge cannabis club has zero sales for several days or weeks. >> in the middle of winter. >> in the middle of winter. this is how i feel about council right now. this is exactly how i feel. total bull [ bleep ]. >> they had an american dream. today did everything perfect to get themselves there. when it was that close to being here the rug was pulled out from under them. they are being punished to be on main street and take the risk. >> two years ago today it was a peaceful pot shop. i was selling to the med patients. i never would have guessed two years later i would be here not knowing if i have a future with this company anymore. >> i got 20 employees whose jobs apparently aren't as important as the image of breckenridge to

tourists. how do i pick who isn't good enough to make the grade? do i ask council to fire pi employees now? >> remember when we had this built? >> it was exhausting thinking about the work we have to do. >> my head hurts. >> we have to the tear down the ducting, get a demo permit. >> the mural will go. we never did paint joints in the mouths of the animals like we talked about: >> we have to tear this the down. the lights and situation really. >> i hope we can sell it all. >> i don't know. it's so much. where do you have so much for sale? >> like a hundred pieces of lights. >> we just need to move forward with the process of getting moved down here. it takes over a month to schedule an appointment with the m.e.d. we have to start the process. >> i agree. >> hope that if we go through with the lawsuit it works out in our favor. if something goes terribly wrong with the other plan we won't --

>> we'll have somewhere to go. >> we aren't shut down. i will be furious if we are shut down for a day. >> me, too. unbelievable. ts. out on the veranda, we enjoy finger sandwiches and other assorted dainties. i wear nothing less than the finest designer footwear. wherever i go, the paparazzi capture my every move. yes, i am rich. that's why i drink the champagne of beers.

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that we could win and if there is a clear injustice then we're in. is. >> i talked to the town attorney. some things, more of the facts have come out and i am a little concerned. the point is we had this medical system for these years when you guys started. then the recreational thing came around. it really is a new regulatory structure. we are fighting an uphill battle in front of judges that i have spent 50 years putting people this in prison for marijuana. now we are asking them to treat marijuana dealers like other business people. i think there is danger that they will say, we told you from the beginning you couldn't be here. we though that will be their argument. look, i'm not saying you don't have a lawsuit. you do. i guess what i'm saying is the more i see the facts i'm a little concerned that we are not going to have as strong of a case. what i think you guys should do is start gathering the

signatures. put together a ballot petition which we basically already have. sue the town. you have to decide what the bottom line is. but even keeping you open through ski season will be hundreds of thousands of dollars. if you say, we have the lawsuit and a ballot. if you keep us open until the the end of the season we'll drop it all. >> i feel like right now, you know, everyone already pit much hates us. on one hand it's like, why not go ahead and sue. on the other hand, i don't want to make them hate us more. >> i don't know if they hate us. >> i feel like they do. what's your confidence rate we would win the suit if we wenter forward? >> the likelihood of litigating this to the end and winning is probably a toss-up. i feel like you can't win if you don't play. i'm not pushing you in that direction. i'm not the one doing the day to day stuff. i think that's the only hope if you want to stay longer.

>> i don't like the language he was using. i don't want the sue just to stay for a couple of months. we're going to piss off everybody in town. we have been fighting for so long. i don't want to take on a battle or a fiegtd we may not win. >> i don't want to go to council and say, we are suing you unless you give us three, four more months. >> i don't want an extension. i want the to stay this the location we chose five years ago. that's all i wanted. i'm sick of people saying, you know, you're not planning. they already gave you an extension. they were already nice enough. that's not what happened. we were supposed the to have stayed there forever. it's pretty short-sighted to only be concerned about the next two months when we are trying to be in breckenridge for years. we are trying the to be in colorado for years. >> our business plan has been bigger than breck.

we have crested butte, oak creek, plans for expansion in both areas. [ sighs ] >> if we were to sue frivolously or just as a way of dragging this out for short-term profits our long-term profits would suffer. people would not shop at the store just because we sued the town. we don't want to sue the town and now we aren't going to. instead, we are continuing to focus on just moving as quickly as possible. 60 days to move. here we are three or four weeks into that. >> that's [ bleep ] bull [ bleep ]. >> i think our plan is pretty solid. we will retain the majority of the sales we have on main street. when we go to to airport road we'll also take advantage of the parking lot market. it was half the market. i think it's win-win. i don't want the to call it

giving up. i want the to call it the end of the road. there is nothing else to do that's appropriate at this point in time. >> i don't really want to sue anybody anyways. >> that chapter is over. our store is no longer on main street. we are going to airport road and we are going to compete down there. >> we only have three and a half weeks to tear down these walls, build the new place, get it inspected and be open for business. >> whoo! look at all the damage i did. >> coming through. >> i'm a soccer player. >> mm-hmm. >> starting to bring down the ceiling.

>> we are down here tearing insulation and walls down to build out the store on airport road. meanwhile, on main street. >> flying out the door. that's in front of the store now. >> out the door? >> out the door. go get him. i hope we have a line the that long out here. >> i know. ♪ an hors d'oeuvre for the table? ♪ perhaps even an elegant gesture for the neighbors. ♪ stella artois host beautifully

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no one in their right mind would build out a new store before the election in preparation for a no vote. they would wait until the vote happened, wait for it to be certified and start building out. we are going to try just to get it done this 60 days even though i can't imagine they would ask another business to move from one location to another with 60 days' notice. i'm not 100% sure we'll make it. i'm fairly certain. for now, everything is the same at the cannabis club until february 1. we'll probably close early that day at 8:00 or 9:00 p.m. so we have four or five hours to get everything here before midnight. we'll have a permit from are the state to move the product from there to here. we can do it only one time. we can't have it in both places. it has to go with the permit and

that one is no longer ever again open as a weed store. i think we'll try an experiment to keep the cannabis club where it's atment use it as a rethe feral program. doing business as breckenridge cannabis club. >> vieright. >> the sign is already qualified. i think it will remain hanging. >> we use that space as a gift shop and it's a different business with bcc stickers, hats, smoking accessories. >> people will expect marijuana. when they get there and they are disappointed we don't sell weed anymore we can tell them how we got kicked off main street but they will allow a shop that sells cannabis-related materials to be there and we give them a map with directions and the bus route to the store on airport road. on the other side, good for 10% or 15% off. they come down to airport road. if they have the 10% off card why go to the other shops?

the biggest benefit is certainly marketing to tourists. >> they won't know where are to go unless someone tells them where to go. we have to do it. do you want to do an 8th ounce? okay. so we'll still be the breckenridge cannabis club but it will be a head shop. >> you don't sell it? >> not here . two miles down the road. >> in the other store. a little farther away. no big deal. >> cool. you'll still shop? >> i get it. it's a family environment, right on main street. i can respect that. i disagree. i do understand the other side of the coin. if i have to walk two blocks down the road to pick it up, i'm okay with it. seems like a fair compromise. i would have preferred to have it stay here. >> it's actually two miles is. >> two miles? i thought it was two blocks. that's a drive. having to walk to the industrial district wouldn't have been

feasible for me today. there you go. >> in the last 24 hours, we learned that we may not be able to open on february 2 like we initially anticipated. we went down to the marijuana enforcement division. we applied to change from the main street location to the new location. they told us it might be 45 or 60 days to approve an application we thought would take only a couple of days at most to approve. >> it's tuesday. we have six days to move. 45 to 6 0 days is just not doable for us to have the to shut down the store te, not be open. >> that's 12 employees of ours that wouldn't have an income for two months during the time of year when they have their best income. >> i don't know how i feel right

now. >> we are now going to go to the town council in breckenridge and ask for an extension beyond february 2nd. >> i really, really wish we didn't have to show thup council chambers tonight to asker for an extension. besides shutting down it's the last thing i want to do. >> okay-. the breckenridge town council regular meeting will come to order on tuesday, january 27. come down, state your name for the record. we'd like to hear what you have to say. >> just me. my name is brian rogers. the breckenridge cannabis club is formally asking the town council to consider an emergency ordinance granting an extension to the cannabis club to remain in its current location for 60 days or 48 hours after the cannabis club receives its permit from the marijuana enforcement division to change locations, whichever is shorter. we have never been closed one day many the history of the

company and i would hate for something other than market forces the bureaucracy of the situation to close us down for our first time ever. we have been in for a modification of premise applicationer four times. they have all been approved while we sat there during the application process. this was very new and surprising to us that it was not happening immediately. i'm here tonight asking to please not shut us down down or help us not be shut down. >> there is some language into what constitutes an emergency ordinance. the extension for a retail organization may not fit that bill. >> it's unfortunate. i wish we could have predicted the days better. >> i personally do not feel it rises to the level of an emergency. >> i don't think anybody's intention is to put anybody out of business. i hope not. i don't think that's anybody's situation. this is a tough situation,

brian. i think we thought you would come the last meeting is. >> i appreciate there is no room for the opposition. i appreciate that. i was hoping there was room for the fact that it was the on is sigs who asked for 60 days after i asked for 90 and we brought it down to 60 because i was trying to anticipate this. now i feel a little jaded that we asked for 90 to be fair and honest to the process. and this process is long and unknown. it's arduous. we have never been through it in this town ever. this is a unique situation. i was hoping you could find a way to unite around an emergency to employ the 12 people for any number of days they may be out of work and for a situation that's never been seen this this town before. >> i would like to see if anybody would like to make a motion to add this to our agenda. >> i'm sympathetic to your situation. i don't think it rises to the level of an emergency. or an emergency ordinance. i'm sorry. >> so we will close the matter, brian. thank you for coming to us and

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what are you doing? >> we're going up. >> is there an emergency shut off involvalve? >> you know what i'm saying. >> we have neutral arized the name. now it's back country cannabis company. it's a shame to change the name but it help it is momentum moving forward as far as expanding into other mountain towns. >> it's hard to bring in the name breckenridge. everyone is proud of their own ski town. they don't want to advertise for the ski town next to them in the same state. so new beginnings. back country cannabis. >> looks great . >> people from out of town will wonder why there are so many weed stores in oner parking lot and nowhere else in town. imagine this was all liquor stores is. >> it's dangerous to cross the street here. >> we don't have are sidewalks or a bus stop. the bus stop is almost out of sight all the way up there. the sidewalk we have is on the other side of of the street. everyone has to cross.

>> i have planned a speech to go to council and say i know you don't care about the marijuana community. but this is a public safety issue. >> did you hear about the woman hit on airport road and the lady was like, you put the marijuana stores down there of course some stoned driver hit someone. they tested her. she was drunk. >> right? >> well with, it's up, looks great. we have 48 hours to go. >> basically waps is if the m.e.d. can't issue a license for the new location so we can open on monday morning we have to be shut down. we basically just stop make money. this place could sit collecting dust for 60 days. just sit, doing nothing. >> if they don't come through for us and it doesn't work i'm going to have to probably lay off 12 people. >> if we are shut down for 60 days we'll go bankrupt for sure.

>> do you need to lock up is this. >> we'll lock the door after us. >> okay. >> front door is locked. >> you have been working your butt off. >> yeah. >> does this mean you can retire now? >> i don't know. i don't know. will there's part of me that wants to keep fighting. part of me knows i can't keep going at this pace. i feel like i have hr already gone crazy. it's been years of me being stressed out, telling brian i don't want to do this anymore. >> do you think you can walk away from it? >> i don't know. maybe it's one of those things where i can't walk away. this is our baby. it is something i put my heart into and something i care about. it doesn't matter that i'm burn out because the company needs me. here we are. as much as i would love the to walk away it's not going to happen right now. >> i want to see something change for you.

>> okay. >> i want the to see you happy, not stressed all the time. you were so happy . you were my sunshine. >> yeah. >> got to have attitude. clever gent has attitude. >> in no way shape or form do i doubt clever gent will be the premier brand of bud. i don't. >> no one stepped up to be a brand get. i'm sure people are waiting in the wings to do so. we have time now. we want to be the first brand out there. >> i'm catherine. >> greg. >> fies to meet you. >> this is very soft. this is our soft lush. it's the opportunity to say here is what we are doing. this is what we are doing. we have a growth facility in fairplay prepped and ready to go but licensing is extensive, miserable, takes forever.

this industry sucks. it's expensive and i'm broke. 500 at the liquorer store that was rent. whatever. i am a strong-willed, ambitious businesswoman. i'm a risk takerer. i should have some sort of caregiver to say, catherine, those are terrible choices. stop taking risks. sit down, take a breath. i don't slow down. i don't take breaths. we haven't even started the licensing process. we are, what, eight months? eight months from harvest. this whole [ bleep ] building is empty. >> excuse me! could everybody gather in here? >> we are here to introduce clever gent. we are here to introduce the very first brand of cannabis. the perception in this industry

is definitely this, there is so much easy money to be made. they're drugs. drug dealers are all rich. come on. that's not even remotely true. what we are here to do is ensure the consumer can find a consistent quality product. make sure no matter what dispensary you walk into, you can pick up a little bud you know you can trust. >> clever gent represents passion. passion is what got us here today. >> in this industry you get thrown a curve ball left and right all the time. you have to figure out how to accommodate the situation you're sitting in. this is situation i'm sitting in. sitting in an empty room. >> to lie. this industry is [ bleep ] hard. this industry is [ bleep ] hard. right? that said, clever gent is here to stay. clever gent is going to stand the test of time. >> when all is said and done and everybody is added up together

this is a [ bleep ] million dollars. a million dollars sitting here that can produce nothing. if we had just taken the million dollars and invested et in a [ bleep ] cd we could get 3% back on that now. else am i going to do with this facility? anybody want to grow tomatoes? i don't know. seriously. is that something that's going to be as profitable as marijuana? i don't know. marijuana marijuana isn't [ bleep ] profitable at this point. seriously. maybe we should look at growing something else in this facility right now. no matter where he's hosting. ♪ an hors d'oeuvre for the table? ♪

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license number two. that we don't have. we'll go there. i only got off the phone with investigator forest like ten or 15 minutes ago. i keep refreshing the page every few seconds. >> do you see it? >> here it is. per our conversation this morning attached is the kaeng of location permit for the breckenridge cannabis club llc.

yes! >> is this all pretty much pot here? >> everything in the room is thc-related. >> for now before we unlock that door let's get everything to the bottom of the stairs that we are taking. that way it's that much closer. it's bittersweet. we got to be here and that's more than anyone else has gotten to say at this time. where are lids to these things? >> we did about 50% of all of breckenridge's sales out of this one store. we acquired the crested butte center in that time period. we acquired a building to grow our new garden and put the lab in, kitchen in. went to brand the wholesale line. none of those things would not have happened if we weren't here on opening day like we planned. we feeded this situation to spring board us into big competitor status. you have to have that ideaed to

go from small potatoes to big player. this is not the ideal ending to what we have been trying to accomplish for the last year and a half. we have the edibles, concentrates,er dw concentrates, garden, wholesale stuff and that's bigger than this store was ever going to be. we are always dreaming big. sometimes bigger than maybe is possible. if you aim high and get close you're still way up there. ♪ there is no looking back. after today that's behind us. it's full steam ahead. >> slowly but surely getting over to the new location. are where are we at? one more minute on main street. >> this is a sad moment. >> i don't want to watch that.

♪ >> february 2, day one, new location. yep. the image was the big question of this all along. breck cannabis club was ruining our image of downtown. the irony at the end of the day, that sign is not going anywhere. the tourists still see this this. they still see it. nothing has changed from that aspect. by them staying here and selling souvenir-type things, they will have a larger visual impact of marijuana than they did before. this is crazy.

a year of so much money spent on this campaign. all the heart ache. it was heart ache. all of that seems to just be a waste now. because that sign is still staying there. i kind of just want to look at the opposition and say, you probably never thought about this this, d did you? in the end, who really wins here? >> we are not a cannabis shop ni anymore. we got moved. we are on airport road now. >> it's way past? >> city market is probably a mile from here. then just a mile down airport road. this will give you 10% off. >> i hope when we see discount cards we'll know the referral service is working and the thousands of dollars we're paying to rent downtown is paying for itself. we are referring people to the

airport road, to our business specifically. >> this is not a repudiation of the decriminalization of marijuana by any means. it is only a repudiation of the location. >> we as a town have been disingenuous a bit. here we supported legalization of marijuana. but then now we don't want our visitors to know we support it. instead, we are losing some of our identity to look perfect. >> we are trying to craft a community that is a sustainable economy and this crafting may homogenize our community. it may detract from that quirk yness that we have embraced for years and years and years.

it is a government reaching in and saying this business doesn't belong. are we putting our guests, our tourists on some sort of pedestal? and valuing that person more than a downtown business? the short answer is yes. >> the time has come to say no more. >> i'm not a crook. ♪ >> dynamite! >> don't with b a wise guy, huh? ♪ we will rock you

>> good morning, angels. >> good morning, charlie. ♪ i didn't even think about it. about death. but shooting at those things, anybody in the camera was shot. immediately. by a russian soldier. at that time, i didn't think about that. but i found that i had to think about it. >> you were alive and holding a camera at a very important time in history. you had to think, i'm doing something important. >> it's very easy to make pictures, but pictures mean something, what's in it. that's a totally different story.