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now that was an interesting conversation wasn't it? thanks for watching. see you tomorrow. good evening. thank you for joining us. we have breaking news in the prison escape. new information tonight about the search and a deadly detail of the escape plan one that might land joyce mitchell the prison seamstress known as tilley in a lot more legal trouble if she had a part in it. word that had she not gotten cold feet about being the
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getaway driver her husband might not be alived today. randi kaye just confirmed that allegation. joins us now with the latest. what have you learned? >> we are getting new information from a source with direct knowledge of this investigation. and this source telling me that escapees richard matt and david sweat did indeed have a plan to kill lyle mitchell. as you know, he is the husband of joyce mitchell the prison seamstress now accused in helping these two men get away from that prison. what's unclear is why they intended to kill lyle mitchell when they intended to kill lyle mitchell and how much joyce mitchell actually knew about that plan. we know she was aware of it. but the question is did she know all the details, that there was a plan in place to kill her husband. the same source also telling me that joyce mitchell was having a sexual relationship not just a friendship but a sexual relationship with richard matt. he is the escapee who killed and dismembered his neighbor. it's unclear, anderson, tonight how long how long that sexual
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relationship was going on. but all this new information coming to us tonight as we are learning more about their stunning escape. they could practically taste freedom. but that didn't stop convicted killers david stwet and richard matt were leaving a series of snarky post-it notes along their escape route for authorities to see. >> the only sticky i've seen is the one that says have a nice day on it. i have heard through the investigation that other notes were there. but that's the only note that i've seen. >> reporter: once on the outside, the plan was for the escapees to jump into joyce mitchell's family car. >> she tells us they said we need a four-wheel drive veechlk inc. i believe she has a jeep. what bran or model, i don't know. >> so they would have been using her car. >> they would have used her as car as the getaway car to leave the area travel at least on this first portion about seven hours away from here.
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>> and she was planning to go with them? >> up until friday afternoon or friday evening based on her statement she was ready to go. >> where is where they were supposed to meet this power plant is just a few hundred yards away from the manhole the men emerged from. the power plant smokestack is visible from the toiler shop in the prison where the two men worked with mitchell: that was the marker for their meeting place. the plan from there. drive. >> seven hours. she didn't know whether it was new york pennsylvania vermont, canada. >> reporter: why would a prison seamstress agree to help these men? a source with knowledge of the investigation says she had a relationship with both of them. and right hand matt in particular was able to charm joyce mitchell making her feel quote, special, all in view of her husband lyle who did maintenance in the tailor shop. lyle is also under investigation. he has been questioned about his knowledge of the escape and
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whether he helped plan. any more clarity on his role? >> not at all. >> reporter: meanwhile the hunt for the two men continues, authorities now expandsing the search zone. blood hounds are still picking up their scent, but it's considerably weaker. so search teams are resorting to other means, using motion detectors similar to this one. they have cameras on them and they can be attached to any tree here in the woods. when the sensors pick up activity they snap a photo. still, even with nearly 900 tips, and more than 800 law enforcement personnel on the lookout, no luck. >> randy, this idea that she knew about the threat against her husband -- i guess there is two options, or at least two that i can think of. one, she was not only aware of it but she was in on it and had maybe perhaps requested it, that they try to kill her husband. or that this was a threat by one or both of these men in order to get her to help them.
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>> absolutely. and we don't know the answer to that yet. we certainly know the d.a. has a lot more questions. clearly, she was made to feel special by richard machlt she was interested in possibly going away running away with these two guys. we also know maybe she got cold feet this coming from the d.a. because she didn't want to leave the area. she felt she did still love her husband. maybe she was looking out for him. he might have had knowledge this as well there was a plot against him. >> joyce mitchell was before a judge today. what happened in court? >> she was in court with her new attorney a private attorney. she appeared in the black and white prison garb. she was wearing a vest. the d.a. referred to it as a safety vest. we are not sure if it was a bulletproof vest. we don't know whether she was officially indicted yet. she was being held on bond and may be in court in another month as the case gets kicked up to
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the county. >> more on the picture of how inmates recruit people like her. we are joined by matt logan. also former corrections officer matt gagji, host of tear talk, a radio program, and senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. jeffrey, the news of this murder plot against joyce mitchell's husband, if she knew about it, how does that complicate things for her legally? could they bring additional charges against her? >> her legal situation is about as dark as it can get. i mean she has one option which is somehow to help them find these two fugitives. other than that, she really is not of any use to the authorities. and they are going to throw the book at her. they may well have an additional charge if she's somehow involved in a conspiracy to hurt her husband. but simply by helping the escape if it is true that she
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supplied the power tools, if she did this, she is in such a world of hurt from that that there is no way she can dig herself out. >> anthony, her alleged relationship with both of these guys -- obviously that's something that correction officers are trained to watch out for, to try to, you know prevent. if she is a civilian in this environment, does that make it all the more difficult? is it a different form of training? >> well, the thing is with civilians is that they come in with -- they want to help. that's their prescribed role. it's very important they do receive the training in regards of how to avoid the manipulation because it is a different environment. it's not the environment you would see out on the streets. correctional officers are trained to obviously look for certain signs like is she too close to that inmate what kind of conversations is she having. >> a correctional officer would be looking for an inmate being too close to a civilian
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employee? >> yes, but you have to realize we have a big area that we have to walk around. within that big area it could become routine. they could have lookouts. when they are focused over here. thel they are playing their game over here. it may start out subtle. if it's not brought to your attention our perspective is different. what do we see? we see everything back to normal. even when it comes to chaplain services they are allowed to interact with the inmates, but unless we are there listening to every word -- if we were they wouldn't be saying what they were supposedly saying. >> matt the inappropriate relationships that sometimes happen that's something you have seen happen several times. in your experience what are the commonalities? why does it occur? >> the first commonality is the perpetrator, the psychosomatic path is the one that we typically see that is able to pull the victim in this case over to the dark side. now, i can refer to her as a
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victim. obviously, she made bad choices. she may have been more involved. but it's amazing the charm, the con, the manipulation and the grooming process that goes on with the more psychosomatic pathic inmates to be able to pull fairly normal looking and seeming people that are employed there over to the dark side and help them and become involved with them sexually. and in this case to be able to help them bring instruments of escape into the prison. >> anderson? >> go ahead, jeff. >> it's not just psychosomatic pathic defendants who do this. i wrote a story for the new yorker about baltimore's city jail where the black guerrilla family -- they were not psychosomatic paths, just criminals. they took over the jail and they were sleeping with the guards all the time. one of the inmates impregnated four different guards in baltimore. i twoos it was completely widespread very well-known. and these relationships are far
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more common than i think more people -- most people think. >> anthony? >> with all respect, sir, we are got guards we are correctional officers. that term is insulting. i understand what you are saying. but we are not guards. we are correctional officers. psychosomatic pathic involves the identity of the individual and the situation they can actually make or we actually present sometimes. we'll put the inmate in the exact situation where manipulation can occur. but you have to look at the vulnerabilities of the target. when i train in manipulation we are going to train about situational factors as well as the person's vulnerabilities. if you need to work corrections, you need to be aware of your own vulnerabilities because the inmates will finds it out within a day or two. >> correctional officers which are law enforcement officers whatever training they may have and as much training as they may have just as they are watching prisoners, prisoners are
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watching them 24 hours a day and probably more motivated to watch every move they make. >> the number one rule is you are not going to outwith it a manipulator. they know more about the system they know how to play the system to work to their advantage. sometimes the policies and procedures become so routine they know exactly what they can do because they know our next step. we become predictable. >> matt the gloves that the woman apparently brought in in october of 2013 could that have been one of the early steps in the grooming process, bringing in something innocuous, gloves i want to use for boxing? and that's the first step it starts with something small? >> absolutely. i believe it probably started even before that. the grooming process is incredible. having been a prison psychologist for years, i can't disagree with what these other two gentlemen are saying but you do have to really look for the more psychosomatic pathic
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individual. they have that ability to charm and to manipulate that the normal everyday inmate doesn't. and it's true. there is only maybe 20% of the inmate population that might be psychosomatic pathic but in -- they use that charm in order the bring that person over to their side. i think that's what happened in this case. >> another point is that correction officers are often very poorly paid. and they are not very well trained. so you have people who are vulnerable to start with. and it starts with you know, very minor requests bring me food bring me cigarettes. and then as you say, the grooming process continues. and that's what leads to situations like this. >> anthony? >> first off, anybody can be manipulated. have you ever watched the movie shawshank redemption? did you not want them to break out at the end? why? because you associated with them more than you did with staff.
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my situation here is not that we are vulnerable not that we are getting paid less. first of all, we are profession and second we have a job to do. and sometimes when people aren't aware of who they are -- could be anybody. because there skrb psychologists that have been caught up there, higher status administration that has been caught up there. >> i think there have been attorneys as well. >> attorneys. for you to say -- my opinion, you are belittling a profession that's in the shadows -- hold on sir, because what you said it's insulting. you are belittling a profession in the shadows. mr. cooper brought us out to be seen in a light because we are not -- we are not recognized. when you say something like that to someone who has been in the shadows so long we get frustrated. >> matt? >> the corrections officers in baltimore which i wrote about -- >> one specific issue. >> were 18 and 19-year-old kids
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who were being paid absurdly low wages who came from the same kmuchbt as the inmates. and they were manipulated. i mean, that does happen. that's not an insult to the whole profession. i don't mean that at all. but it happens. and i don't think i would describe joyce mitchell from what i have seen as a professional anything. >> i don't want to get off topic. i appreciate all your perspectives. anthony, gangi great to have you on. matt loegan jeff toobin. coming up just ahead, more breaking news. new reporting on the intimidation angle. the possibility, possibility that joyce mitchell was the terrified victim of a horrible threat. that's one of really two options tonight. we'll look at that ahead. and later she stepped down from her post at the naacp. her brother speaks out telling us what she thinks of her claiming to be black.
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or was she cooperating as part of a coercive plan? what if she was forced? more on that from miguel marquez. what do we know about the possibility that joyce mitchell may have been forced by these guys? is that a possibility? >> it is. this is something she talked to investigators about and that the state sector is telling cnn. she may have started to help them started down the road to betrending them and this relationship they say existed. and at some point the relationship turned and they used that information against her to say if you don't keep helping us we are going to use it against you. essentially blackmailing her into helping them further. that's where she may have gotten into tubl. cold feet, couldn't move forward, couldn't move backward and didn't tell authorities. >> do authorities believe joyce mitchell's husband had knowledge of this escape plot. >> this may also be part of the problem. he worked at the prison remember.
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and they may have been threatening his life as well. so it's not clear whether or not he had knowledge of the escape plot or at some point they begin to tell her that his life was at stake if she didn't help them. state officials saying she had agreed to be their getaway driver but at the last minute got cold feet couldn't go forward with the plan couldn't back out, and literally just stopped. anderson. >> miguel appreciate the update. now a pair of individuals who know the challenges in tracking down fudgetives lenny depaul. he is former commander of the u.s. marshal service regional task for force new york and new jersey. and rebounded fernandez who currently runs a similar task force covering the washington, d.c. area. we were talking before we went on air. there was a lot of focus on the seamstress, what she knew, was she a victim of the plot? was she in on the plot? you brought up the whole idea that perhaps she was just plan b all along, that she wasn't the main focus there was a whole
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other get away plan. because essentially we are hearing the trail has gone cold. >> it's certainly the possibility. there is that intense manhunt going on. i hope i'm wrong. i hope they are caned within that prim term. there is certainly -- i know the marshal service and my task force they are certainly casting a wider net and taking a look in several states. canada down to mexico. so yeah it's just again, my opinion. i mean if she was plan b, they fed her everything. they gave her -- you know they let her hear what she wanted to hear. and they knew law enforcement she would be a target. she had a prior -- you know prior dealings with sweat and whatnot. law enforcement is certainly going to talk to her, they are aware of that. >> interesting, too. you could look at it as it would be smart to feed her stuff because authorities are listening to what she is saying and she has been apparently cooperating up to now, giving them information. if the information she's been giving them is a red herring, that would be a clever thing.
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>> it's certainly something you can't rule out. i know the investigators, i'm sure that's coming up in questions in the round tables they are having. you can't just focus -- again, there is an intense man hunt but there is also a fugitive investigation going on. they will leave no stones unturned. i hope they are in the perimeter. >> commander fernandez how convinced are you that joyce mitchell was their primary accomplice? >> as time goes by it looks more and more possible that they either slipped out of the perimeter or did have help somebody else gave them help. i'd like to address anybody directly who may have given them help. i mean we -- you heard the major. law enforcement will not stop until these guys are caught. and once they are caught anybody who helped them, from the point of their escape to the point of their arrest, all of that is going to come to light. and anybody who helped them they could be possibly prosecuted and also possibly held liable for any crimes these two commit after their escape. the best thing for you to do is to go talk to the police right
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now. because i can assure you that the state's attorney is going to like favorably on the fact that you came in voluntarily. because if not, once we arrest them and everything comes to light, the heavy hands of the law is going to come down on you. and you have zero option at that point to help yourself. so be smart and help yourself now. >> lenny, not only is the tip line on the screen right now. there is a $100,000 reward out there which obviously is huge inducement. >> absolutely. people do -- hopefully with all the leads that are coming in any tips that the task force is receiving, that's huge. the public needs to stay diligent absolutely. >> diligent not just in this area. this is the point both of you gentlemen have been making. >> right, no tunnel vision. >> you talked about it transitioning to a fugitive operation. what does that obviously entail? it's not the large numbers of people in a concentrated area. how does it broaden out. >> manhunt is aviation support, canines, car checks checkpoints, perimeters being
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set up and shifting as they are hearing things from aviation or law enforcement doing the sweeps. they are looking at 5,000 homes in that area. cabins lot of homes that haven't been opened up locked up until summer arrives in that neck of the woods. that's the intense manhunt. the investigation itself has been ongoing since day one. as an agency the u.s. marshals do it best. we are looking at everything friends, family who is who in the zoo. >> what? >> who's who in the zoo. yeah, now how. >> the cast of characters that are involved. >> absolutely. >> commander, you think about the idea that given all this length of time if these two guys are just out in the forest i mean that seems highly unlikely given not only the huge numbers of people looking but just the conditions that they would have to deal with without having been able to as far as we know preposition any supplies. i mean just the elements the rain that's been up there. the bugs you know without
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having bug spray, it sounds like a minor thing but you anyone has spent time in the forest for days at a time it can be brutal. >> absolutely. and as time goes by it looks like more and more that maybe they are not going to be located in this area. i mean we hope they are. and they still could possibly be you know hidden away in some honey comb hideout that we have yet to find that i'm sure the new york state police are being thorough with their search up there. but as time goes by it does seem to lead to the possibility that they either slipped away or maybe even the night of the escape they might have just called somebody else to come pick them up. there was a time lapse between the time -- >> or had somebody else there waiting. >> correct. >> as you said she have plan b. >> they had a six to eight hour headstart. it's awful quiet. no carjacks no robberies, no
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robberies, nothing that anybody is reporting. >> let me thank you for joining us. just ahead, rachel dolezal steps down from the naacp from her post but hasn't answered the allegations that prompted her resignation that for years she has identify herself as black when her parents say she is white as they are. plus two shark attacks within a span of 90 minutes on the same north carolina beach. i'll speak with a paramedic whose quick actions kept one of the victims from bleeding to death. introducing otezla apremilast. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. some people who took otezla saw 75% clearer skin after 4 months. and otezla's prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't take otezla if you are allergic to any of its ingredients.
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♪ don't settle for u-verse. xfinity is perfect for people who want more entertainment for their money. welcome back a. big twist in auto story that remains kinds of confusing as ever tonight. rachel dolezal has resigned as president of the spectacular spokane washington chapter of the naacp. for days she has been asked to answer allegations by her parents among others that she has lied about her race. dolezal says she is black. her parents are white. in a letter dolezal, a civil rights activist wrote please know i will never stop fighting
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for human rights and will do everything in my power whether it means stepping up or stepping down. this is not about me convict. this is a continuum. dolezal was expected to explain herself today at a meeting which the naacp postponed. stephanie lee elam joins me now. what else did we hear from her today. >> reporter: it's lengthiest note we've seen from dolezal since this scandal broke. it is a lengthy letter where she talks about what she has accomplished. she also says she should not be detraktding from the work that needs to be at the forefront of what the naacp does. her letter in part says she has waited in deference while others express their believes absent the full story. what she did not do is apologize, nor did she explain the peru hawaii about whether she is black or white. there is one sentence.
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it says quote while challenging the construct of race is at the core of evolving human consciousness -- that's the beginning of a sentence. i think that may be what the focus of her defense will be when we hear more were her because this goes back to the idea that a lot of people have been putting forth, this idea of being transracial, that one can flow between races as they feel an afinty towards them. what some people are saying about that is that it's not up to one person to decide when we are over as americans race even though it is a human construct. >> what is the naacp saying about all this? initially they had come forward, didn't address whether or not she had lied. they simply said that she has done good work. >> they said they have done good work, also said that you don't have to be black to work within the naacp. they are standing behind that. the president and ceo of the naacp was on cnn earlier this afternoon and saying that she has done good work but at the same time anything that has
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distracted or detracted from the work that the naacp is doing is something that does hurt and is pain fl. and anything that would help them ghent beyond that ie an apology would be helpful as well. but overall sounding supportive of dolezal. >> stephanie, i appreciate it. it's not just dolezal's parents who are speaking out. dolezal has five siblings four of them adopted. tonight her brother zach who is african-american assistant sat done with gary tuchman. >> reporter: there is zero ambiguity when zach dolezal describes his sister rachel. what race is rachel? >> she's white. white. german german. a little chechnya i believe on my mom's side. >> zach was born in haiti and adopted by larry and ruth ann dolezal when he was an infant. he now services oil wells in north dakota.
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>> you love your parents, oh, yeah. >> this is a photograph of dolezal. her brother zach is on the right one of the four children the zoel zalls adopted. >> when you first heard her describe herself as african-american to somebody else what you heard about it, what was your feeling? >> confusion all the way around. i mean it's -- it didn't make sense. >> zach says several years ago, rachel told him -- >> she didn't consider them her parents. and, you know if we were to talk about them, they were larry and ruth an, not mom and dad. >> she told you to refer to them as larry and ruth ann? >> yes, larry and ruth ann. i mean, i was old enough to know what i was doing. but at the same time it was my oler sister and i hadn't seen her in a while. and i was just there. and so i -- water off a duck's back. >> so -- but she told you that
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you believed it because you didn't want people to know that she is white people were her parents? >> yes. >> zach attended north idaho college in door delane idaho a couple years back. he says it was the same time his sister was an instructor there. he eventually left to work on the oil fields where hard work leads to good money. zach says his parents taught their children the importance of being respectful. he says he feels his sister rachel has forgotten part of that lesson. zach says doesn't know why his sister has been misleading. he says she could have been successful because she is smart, successful and creative and he says he misses being a part of her life. do you still love rachel? >> most definitely no. doubt about night what would you like her to do right now? >> come back and be part of our family. >> gary i mean he told you that rachel mentioned to him not to
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call their parents mom and dad. did she say anything else to him about what he should do? >> zach told me he had a conversation with rachel a little while back that concerned him. he says his sister talked to him about his tendency to wear cowboy boots, to wear wrangler jeans and to ride bulls. he likes to ride bulls. he felt the implication of that conversation -- he felt she was trying to tell him that he acted too white. either way, he still wears the boots, still wears the jeans still rides the bulls, and he still wants his sister to come back to the family. >> fascinating, just pass nagt. gary, i appreciate it. just had a care free day at the freech takes a near deadly turn. two vacationing teenagers attacked by sharks possibly the same shark along the same stretch of ocean. i'll talk with a paramedic who's quick thinking and skill help saved one of the victims' lives.
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trauma ward with by standers in bathing suits scrambling to help the young victims. we've heard the statics, that tell us shark attacks are extremely wear. they are that is true. but when they happen they are certainly terrifying. >> reporter: at 4:40 p.m. the first call came in a 13-year-old girl attacked by a shark while swim together popular oak island beach in north carolina. >> the left arm is completely missing. and also a bite to the left leg. 13-year-old, weak pulse. >> left arm is completely missing, weak pulse, and what was the other? >> bite to the left leg. >> reporter: terrified beach goers try to help the young victim after she is brought to shore. one onlooker borrows the cell phone from a family member to call 8911 the family too distraught to call themselves. >> are any of the fingers completely amputated? >> it looks like her entire hand is gone. i don't have details. >> if you can can, make sure they take a clean, dry cloth and wrap it around the wound and
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place pressure on it. >> reporter: and the nightmare didn't ends there. less than 90 minutes after the first attack another one at the same beach. this victim a 16-year-old boy. >> what is it? a shark >> bitten his arm off. >> he has three people around him holding pressure on his arm. >> tell them do not use a tourniquet. i'm going to tell you how to stop the bleegd. listen carefully to make sure we do it right. tell them to makesurethey have a clean dry cloth or towel and place it right on the wound. >> okay. if you can, let him rest in the most comfortable position and keep reassuring him help is on the way to him. okay? >> both victims were air lifted to a local hospital. both in critical condition. >> they said the head was about that big i think the kid said. and estimated six to eight foot -- no seven to eight. blood in the water. coming over with the whitewash.
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kid was in shock. he was still coherent. lost -- took it clean off. >> you saw that? >> i shaw what was left of what he had. >> reporter: this beach is not only a popular swimming spot but also the site of a busy pishing pier. that means bait in the water and a lot of fish to draw sharks in. authorities do believe that one shark was responsible for both of these attack. although they don't yet know what kind it was. both victims are out of surgery. each lost a lim. the 13-year-old lost her arm below the elbow and suffered damage to her leg. the 16-year-old lost his arm below the shoulder. >> i've been here 16 years. this is the first time something as major as this has happened. >> tom foreman joins us from oak island north carolina if it is the same shark that attacked these two teens, what if anything can authorities do about it? >> really they admit anderson they don't know. and probably not much.
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this is probably one of the primetimes that a shark might attack twilight. but there is a lot of water out here. and actually after these attacks authorities say from helicopters authorities say they spotted two sharks about the size of the sharks believed to be involved in the general i vicinity of the attacks. they don't know if they were the sharks. even if they were they are not sure what they can do about them other than to try to warn people further away from the water. right now they are watching to see if there are more warning signs. >> the quick action of by standers is being credited with saving both teens lives. marty hillbre teh is one of those. she was at the beach vacations. in the moments after the 13-year-old girl was attacked she began first aid using whatever was possible. take us through what happened. i understand you were swimming and someone close to you yelled
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shark. what happened next? >> well they basically -- a lady came running down to where we were and yelled shark. we were throwing footballs in the water. we all got out. in the state of north carolina we have a duty to act as a paramedic. so i had to go over to -- i i had to but i also wanted to go over to where it happened and i noticed that nobody else was trained or had an ability of helping. so i jumped in and saw what was going on. i saw the injuries, and based on the hemorrhaging that was happening to reduce the bleeding i decided to put two turn cats on her on two different limbs which stopped the bleeding and reduced that. and then continued talking to her, continued trying to do things. someone else provided me with iv material. so i was able to get an iv started. >> that's critical. obviously moet deaths from shark bites occur from people bleeding out before they are able to get help. it's not that the shark actually
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eats somebody. the turn cats i know you made one for the leg, one for the arm, what did you make them out of? >> i took strings, i think one from a boogie board and one from an actual tent that was sitting in the area. i yelled for help. and everybody was wonderful on the scene started grabbing things and helping me out. so i just took the strings and tied them as tight as i can based on my training until i had the appropriate turn cats that the fire department was -- i used those and took off my makeshift equipment once the proper equipment arrived. >> you have had training but have you everh to jump in when you are off duty and deal with something like this before? >> nothing to this extent. you know you will see a traffic accident here or there. usually it's not a big deal. but something like this definitely it's a whole different situation. you know of it's -- one thing when i get up in the morning and put on a uniform i'm ready know what i'm putting myself into. this caught me out of left
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field. >> i know you don't consider yourself special. but i'm certainly there are two parents out there who are thankful to you and consider you very special and i'm sure a lot of our viewers as well. >> i appreciate that. i really do. i have to say that the parents were amazing. they were so strong. and they did such an amazing job for their daughter. they kept calm which kept her calm which is the biggest difference in taking care of a patient. the other is you know there is people all along the way that helped save her. first responders nurses doctors, surgeon. you know? i feel like i was one piece of the whole puzzle that helped save her life. >> i have got to ask, having seen this and having been so close to where a hark was, does it make you fearful of getting back in the water? obviously you know the statistics? >> yes. to be very honest, my family and i are probably not going to go any farther than ankle deep for the rest of the week. it's probably not going to prevent me for the rest of my
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life but it's just so close, i'll give it time before i get my knees wet again. >> i understand that. thank you for talking with us and thank you for your quick response? >> yeah, no problem. i appreciate it. and i was grateful that i was able to help. >> well, enjoy the rest of your vacation. >> thank you. >> lucky she was there. up next breaking news. where two terror master minds killed in separate air strikes? also bears, big cats hip pot must on the loose after escaping from a flooded zoo.
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this comes after the pentagon confirmed another terror master minds was targeted in libya. he was targeted in a gas facility in algeria in 37. you may remember 37 hostages were killed including 37 americans. the drone strike that killed the number two leader of al qaeda, what do we know about that? >> u.s. intelligence is telling cnn the u.s. is still looking to confirm he was killed. no confirmation from the u.s. but you have yemeni officials saying he was killed and many jihadi website and supporters saying not only he is dead but also been replaced. he is number one in the al qaeda arabian pens cla. one of the two chief terror threats to the u.s. in terms of capability. he was a lieutenant of bin laden going back to torah bora in 20016789 replaceable in name but difficult to replace in credible if he is indeed dead.
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>> the separate air strike in libya over the weekend, officials are saying a key terror target was killed. u.s. officials not confirming yet? >> they are not confirming yet, but u.s. officials are confident in their intelence jens. they have been watching the compound. they believe in the compound having a meeting at the time he was killed. they don't have hard evidence he was killed but the u.s. traditionally takes longer to confirm with certaintity when you have targets with drone strikes. if you look at the last several weeks you have major leadsers in isis and syria killed, abu sayyaf. this group in the al qaeda killed in libya. and now the leader of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula killed in yemen. remarkable timing and remarkable victories against key and
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principle terror threats gens the u.s. relatives of a 17-year-old british boy say they were devastated and heart broken after isis released photos of him. in one he is smiling in front of an isis flag. here at home jeb bush feshlly launched his campaign with a speech in miami. the former florida governor hopes to be the first bush to move into the white house. he face as tough battle but so far ten other gop contenders. a system in the gulf of mexico that could become a tropical storm is taking aim at texas just a couple weeks after massive flooding in the state killed about 30 people. and over seas raging flood waters destroyed a zoo in the country of george georgeia setting many of the animals free. this includes hippos lions tigers and more. the hippo was subdued by a
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new york prison break. the trail is cold for the escaped killers, but there are new details about sex behind bars. another claim that an airstrike took out a dangerous al qaeda leader. the embattled head of a naacp chapter steps down after she's outed as a white woman. tonight her parents speak to cnn. welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. i'm rosemary church. >> and i'm errol barnett. this is
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