the time of trial, just not now. >> innocent until proven guilty. >> always. >> there can be an explanation for everything. it always looks bad when you hear the prosecution's case it always sounds horrible at the beginning of a case. danny, joey appreciate it. thank you, everyone. my colleague brianna keilar is going to take it from here. hi there, i'm brianna keilar in for wolf blitzer. it's 1:00 p.m. in washington 6:00 p.m. in london and 8:00 p.m. in moscow. wherever you're watching from around the world, thanks so much for joining us. up first, he vows to make america great again and with that real estate mogul and reality tv star donald trump announced he's running for president of the united states. in true trump fashion, his off-the-cuff speech promoted him as the leader the country needs. >> our country needs a truly

great leader and we need a truly great leader now. we need a leader that wrote the art of the deal. we need a leader that can brick back our jobs can bring back our manufacturing, can bring back our military can take care of our vets. our vets have been abandoned. and we also need a cheerleader. >> well let's bring in our political panel. we have senior washington correspondent joe johns, he is in new york where the trump -- where trump kicked off his campaign. and we have national political reporter may haveeve rustin as well as s.e cupp. joe, if irs to you, was this all

ad-libbed? >> it wasn't all ad-libbed. i watched him, i was pretty close. it was clear he was going back and forth from notes to ad-lib. so it was donald trump. and if you can say anything about him, out in the country i think the take away will be at least at the outset that this speech was very authentic. he says what he thinks and he also made it clear that this is going to be a different kind of candidacy. you know how mitt romney in the last go-round had a difficult time talking about his wealth. well you know, this quote from donald trump essentially that "i don't need anybody's money, i'm really really rich." so that just shows you that this candidate is going to be very different from anything i think we've seen out there. and the question is how it will be received in places like iowa where he's going next or new hampshire where he's going after that. >> very big questions there.

okay so s.e, he starts off his remarks, he takes aim at his republican rivals. let's listen. >> and i can tell you, some of the candidates they went in they didn't know the air conditioner didn't work. they sweated like dogs. they didn't know the room was too big because they didn't have anybody there. how are they going to beat isis? i don't think it's going to happen. >> okay. that is -- i mean that's off the cup, sweating like dogs? it's colorful. >> i actually gotten a embargoed copy of the speech he was meant to give before he delivered it and it looks nothing like what we heard. it's clear as joe mentioned he was glancing at these notes. >> it was a suggestion. >> it was a suggestion he did not take. >> this is donald trump, right? this is the moment when perhaps the gop presidential race has finally turned into a reality show. we have as many as 20 candidates

running and donald trump just will make it a lot more fun. going after all of the republicans, one by one by their names? that's a totally new realm we're entering here. >> well it's colorful on the left as well. you're talking about the metric system with lincoln chafee or bernie sanders at the ben & jerry's event. it's a colorful election no doubt and donald trump's presence in it as we just saw today will make it all that more colorful. >> but lincoln chafee, to be clear, is at asterisk when it comes to polling. donald trump isn't right there in the top tier but he does okay. >> he's got a hugely successful reality show "apprentice" and "celebrity apprentice." it gets a ton of viewers as he mentioned all of his products in this announcement speech. he's very rich as he told us. so he'll get -- he has fans. >> the big thing to remember is that no matter how he does in the national polls, and we may very well see a surge really quickly here he really is

not -- his polling is not good in iowa. >> let's look at his iowa polls and how do viewers see him there? >> it was interesting. i was there a couple of weeks ago. there's a lot of voters out there who want to see him jump in for the entertainment factor but at the same time the "des moines register"/bloomberg poll showed that he actually had the highest unfavorable ratings of the republican candidates. and the highest number of likely caucus voters who said that they would not vote for him. so that's a huge hurdle for him going forward. >> you have some people who are questioning trump's ability to lead the country. he questions whether other candidates have what it takes. let's listen. >> all of these politicians that i'm running against now, it's so nice to say i'm running as opposed to "if i run, if i run." i'm running. but all of these politicians that i'm running against now, they're trying to dissociate -- i mean you looked at bush it took him five days to answer the question on iraq. he couldn't answer the question.

he didn't know. i said is he intelligent? then i looked at rubio. he was unable to answer the question. is iraq a good thing or a bad thing? he didn't know. he couldn't answer the question. how are these people going to lead us? how are we going to go back and make it great again? we can't. they don't have a clue. they can't lead us. >> joe johns. it's very clear that donald trump will answer the question. i think the question is will the voters like the answer? so when you think of that what's the impact that trump may have on the rest of the field here. >> i think entertainment value, as i have sort of said before. but there's an unknowable here as well and that is the different kind of voice that he brings. the people surrounding trump think that he really connects with blue-collar workers, people who want straight talk out there, people who are concerned about their jobs people who want to see somebody who's already made it who they know

will not be on the take to have a chance. so that's the question. once you get past the reality show issues -- and, by the way, we've put in a question to nbc as to whether he'll be able to even host the reality show while he's running for president and i did ask the campaign about that. they said look there's a possibility that one of his children might have to host "celebrity apprentice" until such time as he's not considered a presidential candidate. but a lot of questions out there. but the bottom line is it's an unknowable as to whether he'll really be able to connect. we do know he has an ability to shake hands and talk with people and how will that translate? the people around him say once he gets out there on the campaign trail it's going to be a completely different story and you'll start seeing him rise in the polls. >> he said that america is becoming a third world country and he said this about the american dream.

>> sadly, the american dream is dead. for but if i get elected president, i will bring it back bigger and better and stronger than ever before and we will make america great again. >> that's not exactly -- i mean in a way he shifts to a more optimistic view of the future but to something like "the american dream is dead." sort of -- does that resonate? >> it captures people's attention and i think the other thing you hear voters saying throughout is that someone like trump, he's fired people. he can make snap decisions, that's what they like about him. >> he said he'd take negotiators, he knows the top negotiators, one for each country and he'd just have them work it out. >> can you imagine his cabinet meetings? "get me china on the phone." voters love straight talk as

joe was mentioning they love that. but they also look at a presidential candidate as a pilot and they want the pilot to fly the plane straight. and so they want discipline as well as straight talk and i'm just not sure that people are calmed -- having a calming sense of being on trump's airplane. which i'm sure is beautiful. >> if he does -- it is beautiful. if he does push other candidates to answer the question in a clearer way, that could create a really interesting dynamic in this race. >> we'll see sort of how he shapes it. maeve, thank you, s.e, appreciate it joe johns in new york following this for us. and a programming note donald trump will be jake tapper's guest on cnn state of the union at 9:00 a.m. eastern this sunday. sure to be very interesting. coming up accused prison escape accomplice joyce mitchell got a visit from her husband today just hours after cnn learned the escaped inmates planned to murder him. we'll have more on that and the

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it's being called the biggest blow against al qaeda since the death of osama bin laden. al qaeda's second in command has been billed in a u.s. drone strike in yemen. he was known as the man who ran the most violent and dangerous branch of the terror network and he had been plotting attacks against the west for years including the "charlie hebdo" attack as well as the underwear bombing plot that almost happened. this is the second u.s. attackinent

terror suspect. paul cruickshank is joining me. he's the co-author of the book "agent storm, my life inside al qaeda." paul thanks for being with us. give us a sense of how this impact aqap. this is a group known for sophisticated bomb technology. does any of that ability -- is it degraded at all because of this? >> well unfortunately not, because you still have this master bomb maker ibrahim al-asiri at large and it may be al qaeda in yemen decide to launch some kind of attack against u.s. aviation to avenge the death of nasir al-wuhayshi. wuhayshi was beloved. he had a very impressive jihadi resume. he was a close confidante of bin laden in the years before 9/11.

then he moved back to yemen and built up this group into a real powerhouse in yemen and at his death al qaeda in yemen is as strong as it's ever been with more resources than ever before to launch these kind of international operations against the united states and the west. and the successor to nasir al-wuhayshi is seen by some including saudi counterterrorism as more dangerous, even than nasir al-wuhayshi. he's seen as the brains behind the operation. so there's still going to be a big threat from this group in the months and years to come. but for the global al qaeda network, brianna, this is a very big blow indeed be uz he was tipped to be the long-term successor of osama bin laden, somebody who was a valuable assets to al qaeda in their global contest with isis because of his popularity inside yemen, inside the global jihadi movement. >> it's the second strike -- the

second u.s. strike against a prominent terror suspect that we've seen just here in the last few days. you have the one in libya, now this one in yemen. what does it tell you about u.s. intelligence? especially in these areas where we thought maybe it wasn't so good places where it was difficult to have assets on the ground. >> well, it suggests that they may well have assets on the ground both in libya with their strike against mokhtar belmokhtar over the weekend which may or may not have killed him but also in yemen potentially with strikes not just against wuhayshi but other leaders in the group. but in yemen i think it's possible there's been a sudden ament of bravado from some of these aqap leaders. they saw all the reports about the united states pulling out back in the early spring away from yemen and perhaps felt a bit more comfortable about venturing out in the open. well i don't think they're going to feel that anymore. >> do you think because of what's happened in yemen with the u.s. pulling out you have

this saudi air campaign against the houthis there who are in power. do you see this group becoming more powerful because there is this vacuum that the government used to fill in yemen? >> brianna, that's exactly right. there is this political vacuum this complete chaos and al qaeda are able to exploit all of that. but they're also able to exploit heart felt anger amongst sunni tribal factions in yemen because of this houthi/shi'a takeover of territory in sana'a and other parts of the country. so they've had a real recruiting winfall from that so they have more fighters really than ever before and they've been able to take control of quite a lot of territory, including the southern port city where it would appear thats in aer al-wuhayshi was killed in this drone strike. >> paul cruickshank, always a pleasure. thanks for being with us. and still to come the search for the escaped inmates in new york and the woman who

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now to new developments in the new york prison break case. joyce mitchell, the prison worker who allegedly assisted the two convicted killers, were received a jailhouse visit from her husband today. and this all comes after sources tell cnn that the fugitives, richard matt and david sweat,

had planned to kill lyle mitchell but later abandoned the plan. the source also told cnn joyce mitchell was having a sexual relationship with escapee richard matt. alexandra field is in west plattsburgh, new york. alexandra, tell us what investigators have told you, certain will i as it seems like the trail has gone cold here. >> sure, that's right, brianna. at this point the confidence that we saw last week that they were closing in on the fugitives, that they were in this area near the prison seems to have deflated yet they are still keeping a heavy presence here. you can see the security checkpoint behind me. they're looking at every car that passes through here. so nobody is ready to pull out yet. they're pursuing every lead they have hundreds of law enforcement officers but they haven't had a clear sign indicating the suspects are still in this area since late last week brianna. so now a lot of the attention turning toward the investigation. >> do we know how joyce mitchell is doing behind bars alexandra?

>> we are definitely getting a picture of that. she did have her first jailhouse visit today from her husband lyle. the couple appear to be sticking together at this point. the sheriff says the two had a one-hour visit. she's permitted two hours worth of visits over the course of the week. it was a non-contact visit so they were separated by glass, speaking to each other on the ento. but it was a private phone call it was not a monitored phone call. we also heard from joyce mitchell's attorney today who says husband lyle is standing by her. the attorney describes joyce mitchell as being remorseful and tearful. but the sheriff's department is saying that in her cell where they are having her under constant surveillance closely monitoring her that she has kept her cool that she has kept her composure. i want you to listen though, to what her attorney had to say about his impressions. listen to this. >> all i know is that he said that he's standing by her so that's what he told me when i spoke to him. i don't know anything more about their conversation than that.

>> she will be transferred to another jail? >> that's what i was told by the sheriff late morning today. it may be happening now. i don't know. >> you heard it there. joyce mitchell could be transferred to another jail. the sheriff here has said she might create too much of a distraction here while this search goes on. as for lyle mitchell investigators have questioned whether or not he had any kind of role in the escape plan and the plotting or if he had any knowledge of the plan. we do know that investigators have spoken with him, he has not been charged with anything at this point, brianna, but we know he has now retained an attorney to represent him. >> he has an attorney. very interesting. alexandra field there for us in west plattsburgh, new york. thank you. rachel dolezal now almost a household name right? apparently she has no regrets about letting people believe for decades she was african-american even though she is white. dolezal, who resigned yesterday as head of the naacp's spokane, washington chapter says she's

identified as black since she was a little girl. here's how she explained it this morning on nbc's "today" show. >> are you an african-american woman? >> i identify as black. >> you identify as black. let me put a picture up be you in your early 20s, though. when you see this picture, is this an african-american woman or is that a caucasian woman? >> that's not in my early 20s, but -- >> a little younger, i guess? >> yeah 16 in that picture. >> is she a caucasian woman or an african-american woman? >> i would say that visibly she would be identified as white by people who see her. >> but at the time were you identifying yourself as african-american? >> in that picture, during that time no. >> when did it start? >> i would say about five years old. >> you began identifying yourself as african-american? >> i was drying self-portraits with the brown crayon instead of the peach crayon and that was

how i was portraying myself. >> dolezal is estranged from her parents. they told cnn they were disturbed by the interview because in their view she refuses to be truthful about her identity. just ahead, a proposal to boost nato capabilities in eastern europe provokes a chilling response from russia. are the u.s. and russia headed for a new cold war?

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welcome back to our viewers around the united states and the world. we haven't heard saber rattling since the cold war. russian president vladimir putin said today russia will add o 40 long-ranged nuclear missiles to its arsenal by the end of the year. this announcement coming days after the u.s. revealed it might send more than a thousand tanks, bradley fighting vehicles armored howitzers and other equipment to eastern europe to deter russian aggression. cnn contributor michael weiss joining me now from new york and michael, when you see what's going on here, people say, hey, this has echoes of the cold war. do you see things moving really in that direction? >> yeah i think, you know, with the invasion of ukraine, the annexation of crimea what we've mean? the last year or so has been a return to first principles for

nato. nato has spent the last several years, decades, really intervening in places that it wasn't really meant to intervene. namely the middle east. and the whole purpose of the alliance is to fortify europe and it was designed to help contain russia, we thought those days passed with the collapse of the soviet union. recall being in estonia in 2013 a few weeks after the last american tank but some 60 plus years since the end of world war ii and i remember the estonian official quipping "it won't be long before they're invited back." the baltic stakes are very nervous about russia which even before ukraine had been provoking them militarily rhetorically, diplomatically the estonians themselves would like to see not just abrams tanks but bradley fighting vehicles but nato soldiers in those tanks and fighting vehicles so this measure falls just short of what our eastern european and baltic and nato

allies have asked for. but it is indeed a method of deterrence. the question is is it going to work? what putin does rather effectively is what i call the double bind. he create asset of circumstance wrbs he s where he says if the west does x, i will do y but if the west doesn't do x, i'll do y and a little bit more. >> meaning if the u.s. -- so if you think the u.s. doesn't do something he's emboldened to do more? >> yes. but if the u.s. does something he's also emboldened to do more. it sounds paradoxical but welcome to russian foreign policy. so for instance the threat now is the placement of nuclear missiles in kalin grad. there have always been noises about the placement of them in crimea which would put them not only right against the ukrainian mainland but north of turkey our other nato ally. so this is how the game is played. and i'm not convinced that a couple hundred of pieces of even

heavy american-made equipment is really going to alter current state of play which includes by the way, russian fighter jets russian long range nuclear bombers coming perilously close to nato airspace and in the case of non-nato airspace such as that of sweden penetrating that. there have been several sin stances all documented of some of these russian aircrafts: they turn off their transponders and nearly collide. so you're looking at the possibility of more mh-370 disasters perpetrate bid russian aircraft looking to test the limits here. >> and it's not just air it's also by sea as well submarines. they're poking around they're trying to see what europe's defenses are. what's the reaction of european nations in their waters? what's his end game though? i think that's the question. what does he ultimately want? >> well i was at a conference

in sweden where a woman said "for putin, tactics is the strategy." it's not the end game with respect to europe. keep the european nations, particularly nato and the e.u. countries divided amongst themselves against eacheer. some of these parties are taking money from the kremlin. stall ininists and neonazis are in support of what putin is doing. keep ukraine destabilized whether or not there's going to be a push the to connect crimea to the russian mainland through mariupol remains to be seen but they don't need to do that. just keep a roiling sort of conflict going in the don and with respect to these other countries, russia has sizable ethnic minority populations scattered not just throughout eastern europe and the baltic states but also in central asia.

and the goal with them is the propagation of propaganda and disinformation. put ethnic minority russians on notice that their livelihood and lives are under threat by this european and american-backed juggernaut which is all sorts of fascistic and anti-russian groups. so now what powers are trying to do is push back against this information war. i would submit that's more of a threat than the possibility of russia invading lithuania tomorrow. >> all right, michael weiss, i could talk to you all day about this. thank you for the great insight. appreciate it. up next already hard hit by flooding you remember this texas once again bracing for some bad weather. a tropical storm. we'll take you there live and find out how bad it could get.

we have some very dangerous weather hitting the coast of texas. tropical storm bill is now along the coastline there and torrential rain is starting to slam the already flood-weary state. millions of people are in the path of this storm. sara sidner is in webster, texas, just outside of houston and, sara we've already seen some of the evacuations in galveston to the south of you are taking place. what are conditions like in the houston area right now?

>> you know they're doing what typical tropical storms do where you have bands of rain and bands of wind coming in sometimes it's quiet then suddenly you get this. we're obviously in one of those rain and wind bands. i want to give you an idea. the estuary is here. just to the right of us is actually the bay, the galveston bay. but these places here are in very low-lying land and so what you're seeing are people just making sure -- how are you doing? just making sure that they have some of their stuff picked up and folks -- they're used to this. we've talked to a lot of the resident here who have said look we know when there is a rain event that we are probably going to get flooded if it's really heavy rains so they know to usually pick upmost of the stuff in their garages and not put too many things there. there are some folks in town who are laughing about this saying look after we went through ike which came through and devastated this area we're pretty much used to this.

and this is nothing compared to what we have been through in the past. people though, are taking it seriously. most folks are at home. there's not a lot of traffic on the roads but, look these rain bands are coming in and they are getting stronger and stronger throughout the day. back to you guys. >> you can see them just coasting across the standing water behinded you while the scene of that man where he's chopped up chairs in the garage it does seem routine but i know they're used to this sarah but you've seen rain in the past couple of months. is flooding the biggest threat going forward here? >> yeah. that is what the harris county emergency management folks have been saying that you know, if you see a sign that's up that says "high water" or a blockage of a street which they have blocked off some streets, do not drive through it, you're putting yourself in danger. and we saw that happen this past memorial day where folks were you know driving along and suddenly flash flooding.

so they're worried about flash flooding and general flooding this. place obviously floods more thannors because it's low lying and surrounded on two sides by water, galveston bay to our right and this estuary here. but folks are taking it in stride. i have to tell you, i think they're used to these weather events and this one doesn't seem as scary. however, harris county emergency management mentioned they were concerned because some folks went out and cleaned the shelves in some areas, buying things like water and snacks and they said look this is not a hurricane. this is a tropical storm, it doesn't look like it will be as terrible don't panic. just do -- be careful and try to stay inside if you can. don't go out on the road. >> but certainly so upsetting to an area just economically and to all of those homes that are already dealing with cleanup there. sara sidner thanks so much for giving us a view there. coming up next jeb bush is taking his new campaign message to new hampshire. we'll have a live report from the town hall meeting he's at.

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i know the one thing that ties us together in this diverse country is we want a better future for ourselves and, more importantly, for our children and for some of us our grandchildren. that's what defines us. we can be liberal and conservative republican democrat we're diverse in every way, that's the unique nature of our country, that's what makes us extraordinary in some ways. but we all want something better for our families. >> i want to bring in my colleague jeff zeleny now to talk about what we've been hearing from jeb bush. jeff as you listen to jeb bush, do you see him setting himself apart from other republican candidates? is he able to do that effectively? >> brianne, that good afternoon. i think at this point jeb bush is in the introduction phase of his candidacy. and i detected so much humility from him. he knows that he has to make his case to these new hampshire voters. it's a fickle set of voters no question about it. and his family has a bit of a mixed history here.

his father won the new hampshire primary in 1988. his brother got second place in the new hampshire primary in 2000. so jeb bush enters this race here with all of that in mind. but as you sid, he takes question after question after question. i would say it was polite and enthusiastic applause but he knows this is just the very very beginning of this process. >> he's working, he's really working to try to reintroduce himself and the polls show he needs to do that. you got outside of this event because, with jeb bush comes controversy with the family name. you spoke with some protesters. what did they tell you? >> there were a small group of protesters out here which is typical of campaigning in iowa and new hampshire and they of course, are focused on -- are concerned about common core his education proposals. and several signs that says, you know bush and clinton, we need something new. i they is to be expected but brianna, one thing is clear from his first town meeting, he had

no confrontations inside this town meeting. he answered all the questions. he had an interesting exchange about the pope actually. he's somewhat of a new catholic in the second part of his life. he was baptized into the catholic church and someone asked him if he agreed with the pope's upcoming message on climate change and he sort of in a comment that was reminiscent of john f. kennedy said he does not take his orders from the vatican. he praised the pope as a strong leader but he said he would not take his orders from the vatican. but overall, i have to say, brianna, he was met with here enthusiastic applause and his meeting was not interrupted. he had no immigration confrontations or anything like that. so as he heads to iowa he certainly is happy about his new hampshire visit here today. >> all right, we'll keep watching as he travels through these early states. jeff sellny there in new up next we have more presidential politics for you

with donald trump joining the crowded field of republican candidates. what does this mean for jeb bush's campaign and for the crowded gop primary? stay with us.

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white house two hours ago after years of playing the will he or won't he game. this announcement comes less than 24 hours after jeb bush announced his campaign. what does this mean in the race for the republican nomination? shawn spicer is the communications director and senior adviser for the republican committee. this is the campaign kickoff for don nal trump. and he said in it america is in decline. let's listen. >> this is going to be an election that's based on competence. because people are tired of these nice people and they are tired of being ripped off by everybody in the world and they are tired of spending more money on education than any nation in the world per capita. than any nation in the world. and we're 26th in the world. 25 countries are better than us at education. and some of them are like

third-world countries. but we're backing a third-world country. >> what's your reaction to that? that sort of thesis of his argument for getting in the race and just to his announcement in general? >> well i think, number one, we have a historic crop of candidates seeking the republican nomination. the number of quality candidates is actually his store rectoric. it's going to give the voters an opportunity to decide which direction they want to go and which vision is best. we're definitely giving the voters throughout the country an opportunity to look at several different ways that we can go and it's not going to be without choices when it comes to our nomination. >> technically you are not supposed to play favorites here. that's just part of the deal when you work for one of the party committees. i want to ask you about something that we heard donald trump say, especially in light of the fact that a lot of republicans say, hey, this party needs to broaden its tent appeal to hispanic and other

minority voters. this is what he said. >> when mexico sends its people they are not sending its best. they are not sending you. they are not sending you. they are sending people that have lots of problems and they are bringing those problems with us. they are bringing drugs, they are bringing crime, they are rapists and some i assume are good people. but i speak to border guards and they tell us what we're getting and it only makes commonsense -- it only makes commonsense. >> there are a lot of hispanic voter who is will not be happy, shawn, with donald trump saying something like that. let me read from the postmortem autopsy. republicans take in the hispanic community and beyond we must embrace and champion comprehensive immigration reform. how does that need square with the kind of rhetoric that you

hear donald trump using? >> well i mean as far as pinning mexican americans with that kind of a brush, i think that's not helpful to the cause. but i think to the issue of illegal immigration, mr. trump and others have addressed that we need to be very firm on border security and look at ways to make sure america has fixed its immigration problem and allow for people whether it's from wherever to enter the country in a more systematic way for our economy. >> i want to ask you about jeb bush now. he touted his experience as governor he seemed to really take a swipe at his rivals like senator marco rubio who doesn't have that experience. let's listen. >> as our whole nation has learned since 2008 executive experience is another term for preparation and there is no

substitute for that. we're not going to clean up the mess in washington by electing the people who have helped create it or are incapable of fixing it. >> he is taking aim at establishment washington. many of the candidates on his side in addition to hillary clinton, do you think that helps him break out of the pack? a lot of people are surprised he hasn't yet. >> look as you mentioned at the top of the show mr. trump becomes the 12th candidate seeking election. i think other senators business people i think at the end of the day each one is going to try to figure out a message that they think resonates in a vision that they want to articulate the country. they are going to talk about their strengths, their vision is the best. i think in the case of governor bush that's playing off his years as being a successful

governor. i think senator rubio, senator paul, senator cruise andz are going to talk about their solutions that they have found here in washington. i don't think it's a bad thing. i don't think there's anybody running for president or sitting at home that's pleased with the things going on in washington. one thing that all of the candidates are talking about is trying to find a pathway forward to some of the problems that people in this country face and make america a better country than it is today. >> all right. real quick, in just like a couple words, are you worried there are so many republican candidates? no. i'm glad. the more candidates the better. they are bringing more people into this party and they are out there campaigning in places that we don't go talking to additional voters. this is a very very healthy thing for this party. i'm glad and i hope more people get into it. >> sean spicer with the rnc, thank you for being with us.

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