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website. he says the stray von martin killing inspired him and explains why he picked his tart. the "n" word spoken aloud by the president of the united states as he talks ownly and honestly by racism in the united states. will it change anything? i'm wolf blitzer you're in "the situation room." we're covering two important breaking stories. new york police have a confirmed lead in the hunt for a pair of escaped murderer. dna has found on items in a burglarized cabin. also breaking now in south carolina governor nikki haley frankedly her state's top officials called for the confed real flag to be removed. the call comes as we're learning more about the the south
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carolina congressman, he was in today's announcement. also or corresponds. the very latest on all of the news that's breaking. >> today we are here in a moment of unit without ill will to say it's time to move the flag to remove the flag from the capitol grounds. >> let's get more from brianna keilar. what's going on? >> a whole loss has change edd this include lindsey graham. he was there but certainly the
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times have changed. the initial agreement to have a flag on the grounds there coming in the early 2000s. you've seen a number of republicans, including graham who have made the shift in rhetoric. listen to what he said a few days ago. >> this is part of who we are. the flag represents to? people a civil war, and that was the symbol of one side. to others it's a racist symbol and has been used in a racist way, but the problems in south carolina are not because of the symbol but because of what's in people's hearts. >> today graham backed governor haley's call for the flag to be gone from the statehouse grounds. he said this -- after the tragic hate-filled shooting it's only
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propose we deal one and for all with the issue of the flag. that's quite the reversal. >> how are candidates dealing with this? >> it's been difficult for them. in fact you've been seeing them -- having some troubles as they have tried to navigate this. at issue here is some of them are aid frayed they will lose support from their base from white conservative republicans and that they're not going to make up that support from african-americans who may support their opinion, but aren't going to swing around and vote for them. for instance from jeb bush he says he doesn't support the flag obviously in general. when he was the governor of florida, he worked to have the flag pulled from the statehouse grounds there, but at the same time he didn't explicitly say that south carolina should make this move. rubio, he did not support bush's
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move when he was governor. he said this was an issue for the states to decide. we heard that from rick santorum. we heard from mike huckabee. he said this isn't even an issue -- you also saw ted cruz rand paul they had accepted money from the leader of this white supremacist group, dylann roof, the shooter was linked to. they are now either giving back the money in the case of ted chris, or they're giving the money to the hope fund that the emanuel church is putting on to benefit victims' families. all issues are out there on the table. thanks very much. today's call to move the confederate flag from the south carolina capitol grounds comes as we're learning more about the hate-filled rant posted by that murderer. the 21-year-old who confessed to killing nine people the charles -- posted on the website
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along with dozens of him burning the u.s. flag. elf lavandera has more. >> reporter: he might be sitting in a jail here but he has left plenty of clues describing his mind-set mind-set which in many ways is extremely disturbing. investigators tonight are looking into the motive for the murders and focusing on a 2,000-word racist rant posted just mowers before these rampage, the pictures are alarming. roof is seen burning an an american flag and posing with a .45 caliber glock pistol. in the words he writes a pattern of anger and bigotry. roof states the trayvon marting case triggered his decision to
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kill writing it was obvious zimmerman was in the rightings but more importantly it prompted me to type black on while vile also on google and i've never been the same. he chose cars stone for his act, and at one time had the highest ratios of black to white -- we have for skinheads, no kkk, no one doing anything but talking on the internet. someone has to have the bravery to take it to the real world. i gill that has to be me. >> what is your age? >> 21. >> roof is being held on a million dollar bond awaiting his next court appearance on murder charges, set for october. wolf dylann roof also wrote he was inspired in part by a group called the council of conservative citizens which has been described by the southern
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positive law center as a hate group here. the leader of that organization has donated thousands of dollars to a number of republican candidates across the country. >> thank you very much ed. joining us is one of the south carolina's more prominent and longest-serving elected officials, james clyburn. he was there with the governor at today's announcement. it was a pretty moving moment for you, wasn't it congressman? >> absolutely. governor haley and i have been talking about this issue since last thursday. we were together friday at the church and on yesterday she reached out to let me knows that she had reached the place that we heard from today.
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so i proudly toot with her while she made that announcement. i hope that all of us can march off into the future together. this is a tremendous first step to doing something we left half done back about 15 years ago. >> they were with her as well. you have the entire republican leadership of the state of south carolina with you. reince priebus, the republican national committee chairman was there as well issued a statement of support, but here's the question a lot of people are keg, congressman. did it really have to take the deaths of nine very lovely wonderful, prominent african-americans of charleston for this to happen? >> i just have to admit, wolf
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that's the way it looks. look a lot of us -- i started writing about that flag back in 1987. i did a tremendous amount of research on the flag. i was shocked to find out that the flag that was on top of the statehouse was not even the flag that they said it was. it was a tennessee flag flying on top of the statehouse. that was a flag of nathan forrest, the founder of the ku klux klan so when they took the flag off the statehouse they did not put that flag out in front of the statehouse. the flag you are showing now, that is the flag that's in front of the statehouse but even that -- that is the battle flag of northern virginia. south carolinians did not fight under that flag. for people to run around talking about all of their ancestors that fought and died under that
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flag they're not telling the truth. what's so unfortunate about it they don't even know that they're not telling the truth. they have been perpetuating this myth that someone told them just like this young man got all this stuff off the internet and somebody has told him and started living by it. so i was pleased that the governor took a position because it does two things. it allows all of us black and white together to march into the future celebrating only the american flag and that proud blue with the palmetto tree and crescent state flag of south carolina and secondly it will allows a lot of my friends to top -- >> and it will have to pass by two thirds the legislation that would be required to remove that
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battle flag from the grounds of the state capitol. do you have any doubt it will pass congressman? >> i don't think it requires two thirds. it requires two thirds if you remove the flag under the current law. however, the legislature can rescind that law by a simple majority vote. that's what needs to happen because that law is so broad, it would not allow the citadel to remove that flag out of chapel. the attorney general the south carolina told the administration of the citadel because of that law, they cannot take the flag out of the summerall chapel down there when they say they want to take it out. so we need to rescind that law. you can do that with a simple majority vote. the moment you do that you're not required to have two thirds.
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democrats and republicans, called for the confederate battle flag to be removed from the grounds of the state capitol, we're speaking with james clyburn, one of the leaders at that governor's nouncement. if you read the manifesto, he says he wasn't raised in a racist home but was truly awakened by the trayvon martin case when he realized he had to do something to deal with blacks in your state. what's your reaction when you read that manifesto, when you hear what he had to say. >> well i take him at his word but i don't think that's all there is to this. the organization that seems to be giving rise to a lot of his background reading is much broader than trayvon martin. it's been around before trayvon martin. the fact of 9 matter is he has a
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relative who is now tweeting out for the last several days that he went over the edge because some young lady that he was attracted to was dayton an african-american guy. so he doesn't mention that in a manifesto, but the more i find out about him, and how he interacted with other people i'm not too sure that this young man isn't making all this up. i just don't believe he wrote it. he may have posted it but i don't think he wrote that. >> presumably we'll find out. i read that manifesto, and it's really ugly in many respects he goes after not only african-americans, but jews hispanics. it's disgusting. i know you have to run, congressman, but i want to get your quick reaction. today the interview the president gave over the weekend,
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he publicly used the "n" word. what did you think of that? >> well i think the president was being the professor that he used to be. i said earlier today to someone, i remember when i was treeching back in the '60s in the charleston county public schools, we had a big controversy going on at the time that president lyndon johnson and others debating the civil rights act of 1964. a lot of those lectorselectric legislators were having trouble trying to pronounce negro. so in my class one day i made a statement trying to teach, and a young lady i will never forget her, bernadette lucas, she now lives high in columbia she cried because i used the "n"
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word. i was just trying to teach. so i know that that word can be misconstrued. the president was trying to teach, and i think it was used properly but in the sound bite world that we live in if you pick the one sentence out without the full statement, you will come away thinking that it may have been inappropriate. you read the whole statement, it was the appropriate thing to do. >> all right. i think you make a good point, as usual. thank you for joining us. >> thank you so much for having me. we're going to continue to follow the breaks news including the breakses news in new york. there's a confirmed clue for the manhunt for two escaped murder murderers. we have details on how they broke out of prison. i'm caridee. i've had moderate to severe plaque psoriasis most of my life. but that hasn't stopped me from modeling. my doctor told me about stelara®
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to break into a car or home. now investigators bled they have the smoking gun, the stronger -- it was dna discovered on personal items inside a cabin broken into over the weekend. that dna matching to -- however, investigators have yesterday to reveal what those items might be. the dna found yesterday, the strongest indication they are still in this area. there are a lot of cabins that people use for hunting and skiing in the winter. there's a lot of property that's empty. investigators are asking anyone to come check it out and if anybody is out of place, they scuff to give them a call. investigators tell us no lead is too small. >> we ask the public to remain on alert. and remain vigilant about reporting anything that's other ordinary.
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call 911 immediately. of course the other big news in the case reports that the men got tools into their cell via frozen hamburger meat. >> boris, thanks very much. we'll check back with you. meanwhile, there's other breaking news. the white house just announced that the president and mrs. obama and the vice president are heading to charleston on friday to attend funeral services for the reverend clementa pinkney, the pastor who was leading bible study when a gunman killed him and eight others. michelle kosinski update our viewers. >> pinkney is one the president had met and knew personally. the president will deliver the eulogy. it seems like we're entering a
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new period how the president is engaging on and addressing race. he's given speeches lately using direct language. speaking of which this hour-lounge interview for a podcast called "wtf." . the headline though is that the president use the "n" word. >> reporter: the president is one word in a comedian's garage for a podcast hits nor bluntly than any speech. it's not just a matter of it not being polite so say nigge rismtr. societies don't overnight completely erase every that hand 200 to 300 years prior. the shock value lost on no one, but the white house
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desnides that that was his intent that it was even planned. he it just came out. >> the president was merely making an argument. >> he had to have known this was going ton a reaction right? >> i don't think he was surprised by that but i do think it has prompted careful consideration of exactly what he said. >> it's the latest of several strikingly emotional statements after the charleston shootings. >> i rye fuse to act as if this is the new normal. >> the president spoke directly personally enough that it was controversial. >> if i had a son, he would like lie trayvon. >> often trying to carefully temper his words to trike a perfect balance.
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>> there is not a black and white american and latino america and asian america. there's the united states of america. >> as for the surprise overhearing the president saying the "n" word. he did write it and refer to it more than a dozen times in his book how that word affected him, shaped his private views on race more of which we are hearing now. >> and we're hearing analysts say it's about time we hear the president speak to directly on this issue. it is hard to imagine that the president didn't think about the provocative power when he decided to use that word even if it was on the spot. this is a world we don't fee comfortable sail this kind of discussion is clearly what the white house wants. >> michelle kosinski at the
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white house, let's dig deeper with an important civil rights leader. joining us is president president and ceo of the national urban league. what did you think about the president's decide. >> let me say the president's broader statement and that it is -- and remains an important different issue for the nation i welcome that. i wish he had chosen to say, quote, the "n" word as opposed to saying the world. i've been long on record that coarse language yoon in any context in the public squaring is not the best way to talk about these types of issues. whether it's the use of the -- that word the "n" word has never had a positive meaning. it was designed and that word
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deserves to be alongside the confederate flag the hood the noose in a museum to remind people about the difficult days we've been through as a nation. but here's the point. i think part of the president's opportunity at this stage, given all we are dealing with as a nation is to help the nation understand confront and recognize that the division of race is a division that we have to address, that by not talking about it by sweeping it under the rug, by ignoring it we don't put it to bed. we allow it to fester and persist. >> the criticism he has faced from some in the african-american community, he hasn't been blunt enough over the past six years, to that criticism you say? >> i say this -- important to recognize as president, it's not only what a president says it's
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what the president's administration does. i think that address health disparities through the affordable care act. seriously and addressing civil rights they are all important contributions that this president has made. i do believe, however, that it's timely and important now, as he faces the final year and a half of his presidency that helping the nation confront, by speaking forcefully forcefully and i think in a positive way, about the challenges of race and how we as a nation can get beyond it will be one of the legacies of his administration but with 18 months to go i think it's time for him to perhaps give another
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major speech give a speech on race give a speech that helps the nation move beyond. today the national urban league launched its one nation one flag initiative. one nation one flag wolf is about ending the confederate flag flying in a public space in south carolina but it's about bigger than that. it's about us unifying america around the american flag. not only in language but also if you will how we think about public policy so one nation one flag is an online petition that you with go to our site and sign. eliminating the flame is important, and important to do it in respect and remember yang of the nine marser who lost their lives, but that we also have to work on how we unify
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this nation how we bring those toes who want to get beyond the pass and move into we've seen what the governor wants to do with the confederate flag in her state, but there are other states like mississippi, that still incorporates the mississippi state flag makes part of that confederate battle flag on the mississippi flag. what do you say about that? >> i think it's time to remove all vestiging, which was about hate about intolerance the promotion of a rebellion again the united states of america. it's time to relegate that symbol to museums, to south carolina today, perhaps -- and i think, yes, those other states tomorrow.
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wolf this is an important time because we finally saw in this young man down in south carolina the active use, the active use of the rebel flag or the confederate flag to promote the ideology of hate. and to act as he did was take the lives of nine innocent people. i say the confederate flag belongs in a museum. if it's a part of history, it belongs in a museum and what we ought to fly in this country is the starts and stripes. what we ought to fly is the symbols that help us unify ourself. assh, thanks very much. coming up photos of the killer may hold clues into the confessed charleston gunman's mind.
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. we're following the breaking news in the wake of the charleston church shooting south carolina's top leaders today called for the removal of the confederate flag from the grounds of the state capitol. this comes after the finding of a manifesto where the shooter confessed to the shootings. hatred of blacks jews hispanic and the whole notion of patriot im. rich area cohen is the president of the southern poverty law center. what do you think of the
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manifesto? how unusual was it? what jumped out at you about it richard? >> we've been told he's a high school dropout, but it's obvious he's quite a student of white supremacy. he hit all the notes, particularly african-americans in our country. we also saw this martyrdom complex. he's is kid who says my life might not be worth a speck of dirt but i'm going to do something great for society, because i'm a brave man and there are no others. so we see in megalomania that leads to violence. this person came to the hate group, but by being self-radicalized on the net. i'm afraid there are a lot of other people like him out there. >> he writes in that manifesto, assuming he wrote it the first website he says i came to cause the council of conservative
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citizens. what do you know about this group? >> the council was build on the mailing list of the old white citizens council, called klansmen in suits, calls for racial segregation, demeans black people at every turn. i think something important to understand wolf is that it's not just a hate group in the extremest world. it's also had support in the political world. in the late '90s and through until about 2004 2005 many many southern politicians supported the group by speaking at its rallies, speaking at its annual dinners. the most famous example being trent lott who spoke before the council five times. >> how unusual was it most of this manifesto as you point out accurately deals with the
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hatred of blacks but he also lumping in jews and hispanics, how unusual is that? >> i don't think it's that unusual. most hate amongest nowadays are equal opportunity haters. black people you know have special ire for them but you know there are no other minorities order than white people and what they see is a white genocide afoot. if you go to the council's website, you'll see it repeated the notion that white peel are losing the company is becoming increasingly diverse and as i said before once president obama ran on a platform of change but he represents the kind of change that so so many people in our country are scared of. >> he probably didn't realize that gold's gym t-shirt was founded by joe gold who himself was jewish but that's a little
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irony right there in this whole -- he probably didn't realize it himself. thanks very much richard. coming up it's the best lead police have yet. the surprising new details on how they escaped. it's evening again. time for the perfect night time snack. ♪ beautiful on the tongue, easy on the conscience. kellogg's®. see you at breakfast, tonight.™
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an important isis stronghold with the help of u.s. coalition air strikes cutting off a key supply line for the terror group. arwa damon among the first journalists on the ground gained exclusive access inside the battle and what isis left behind. here's her report. >> reporter: for two years, isis reigned with impunity over this rural landscape. a vital frontier to defend and supply its stronghold now beaten back. >> there was a coalition air strike on that side of this underground tunnel that goes around the entire village. isis had moved into this particular area about two years ago. this obviously dug out with heavy machinery about three feet
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three inches a meter wide and pretty high as well. then you can see the metal ceiling, roof that was put into it running throughout. isis' tunnel is fairly crude. but still highly effective when it comes to giving them freedom of movement throughout the entire area. this is the road that runs parallel to the turkish border and berms like this one had cut it off completely. this was just one of isis' many defenses that they had put into place. the air strikes that happened here were key, they took place just a few days before forces advanced. they were highly effective. in just four weeks the air strikes allow eded ypd to advance
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some 80 kilometers 50 miles, taking over key territory, including the border crossing cutting off one of the main isis supply routes. "when the coalition against isis was formed we were the only force that was committed in the fight against isis," this commander says. "the coalition saw this and coordinated with us." he won't disclose specifics. here the u.s. can say that its strategy has delivered a blow to isis. but the battlefield is vast and the blueprint for success hardly easy to replicate. arwa damon, cnn, syria. let's get more with our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. how wig of a blow is this to isis the loss of this border area? >> it's a big deal because those supply lines, it's not just about arms. the key is it's about foreign
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fighters. that's the way they replenish their ranks as they've been getting december mated by coalition air tribes. it's a major issue. they're going to have to find new supply lines in. as a measure of how important they are, the u.s.-led coalition was striking this area for two months before this attack went in to soften up those defenses there. it's interesting, they weren't talking in public, they weren't talking about the importance they placed on this. kind of as a way to hide before that ypg offensive went in and took it away. it's nice to have that gain from the u.s. perspective after the losses in ramadi tikrit et cetera. >> a long way to go. the effort to blow up the afghan parliament today by the taliban? >> significant attack. but could have been worse. this attack was meant to penetrate those defenses. there was a car bomb. they tried to get six fighters inside. those six fighters could not get invied, they were killed. two civilians killed 25 people injured. this follows a series of attacks that you see particularly on
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western hotels there, as well as some territorial gains by taliban. >> awful, awful video that we're seeing. could have been as you say, a whole lot worse. jim sciutto, thanks very much. more coverage of the breaking news of the manhunt for two escaped killers. officials say they now have a confirmed clue.
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