9:30 eastern for the d.c. mansion murders. make sure to follow me at jake tapper. that is it for the lead today many i'm jake tapper. wolf blitzer in the situation room starts now. manhunt, searchers race to sur round the rugged area near a new york cabin. the escaped killers left behind traces of dna, boots and provisions our searchers finally closing in? flag debate after the racially motivated massacre in charleston south carolina lawmaker as degree to discuss taking down the confederate flag other states may follow. major retails are vowing to stop selling confederate themed merchandise. a 19-year-old from north america is charged with plotting to kill up to 1,000 people. he's the latest of dozens of americans accused of isis inspired plots.

one top u.s. lawmaker says the threat level has never been so high. let's get to the breaking news there are new leads in the hunt for the two killers who escaped a prison in upstate new york. law enforcement sources now say the escapees were taken by surprise after they broke into a hunting cabin some 20 miles west of the prison. the sources say they fled in a hurry, leaving behind boots and provisions and traces of dna. it's thought that one may even be barefoot in the rugged terrain. the husband of the accused accomplice is speaking out about his wife her relationship with the two prisoners and the part she played in helping them break out. also breaking now. as new video emerges in the charleston south carolina slaughter. south carolina lawmakers will debate whether to remove the confederate flag from the capitol. there are moves in other states

to do the same thing. and national merchants are taking it off their shelves. our correspondents analysts and guests are all standing by with full coverage on these stories and much more. let's begin with jason carroll. he's at the center of the search area right now. jason, what's the latest and tell us about the dna discovered in the cabin? >> there was just a bit of an uptick in activity in an area called wolf pond road. we saw -- we heard about a number of choppers in the air, armed officers on the ground in that particular spot you can imagine there was a flurry of activity that tip ended up being unfounded. one tip ends up being the best out of the 2000 leads that law enforcement has received so far, that's the tip you mentioned, it's about the dna found in the seasonal cabin in that area that really has investigators saying this is their strongest lead to date. they found a pair of boots

there, they also found other personal items that investigators believe belonged to both david sweat and richard matt. cannot emphasize enough what a strong lead this is for investigators, and the reason for that is because it gives them a pinpoint on this trail. and for the past three weeks that we've been up here we heard about so many false leads. again, this is the strongest lead they've had to date. >> has the search area basically shifted? >> >>. >> i would say it's narrowed. that has to do with the dna, this is all in the area of owls head what it does it gives all of this law enforcement that's out here on the ground. have you nearly 1,000 member of law enforcement that's been out here the largest number we've seen in the past three weeks, what this does it enables law enforcement to narrow the search. and so what they're doing is focusing on that rural area it's a tough task they have in front of them to try to find these two men, but this dna

basically gives them the best lead that they've had to date. >> jason carroll on the scene for us thank you. while these two fugitives are ill equipped to deal with a rugged terrain. the thick undergrowth, searchers are making use of the latest technology in their hunt. let's bring in our law enforcement analyst. a former fbi assistant director. take us to the big picture where this search has gone on. >> first of all it started obviously at the prison the correctional center in danamora up here shortly after we had searchers in wells borrow and katieville. in the beginning, that's where the 800 officers were searching. then this past weekend we had multiple sightings the police had to check out, one that we heard about was down near the pennsylvania border friendship and irwin, which the police refer to as a credible sighting not confirmed. almost simultaneously, we were getting a sighting at another

location back closer to the prison. >> clinton county up there, its with a relatively narrow area where that cabin was, now it's expanded? >> right. the new search areas there's the original search area we have the nine mile perimeter, there were 330 cabins homes they had to check out in is this narrow perimeter, that proved to be unsuccessful now, with the latest sighting they get a sighting at 10:30 in the morning, the police go to check it out, the cabin was burglarized, they check out some of the items in the cabin send it to the lab, and get confirmed that both fugitive's dna matches, this is not just a credible sighting but a confirmed sighting. now, the problem with this is by the time they confirm that and by the time they get hundreds of police officers there, these guys could have walked easily in any direction a long way from that location. we just don't know if they did,

initially. what we're hoping for is that they bring in the dogs they go to the cabin, they get a fresh scent and the dogs can track them to a specific area, and they can narrow it down further. >> there's some high-tech infrared devices that can be flown around to try to get some sense of where these two guys might be? >> right, it's very difficult, they'll put infrared equipment and helicopters, they've been using it all along in this investigation. the problem is they're looking through trees and there's other animals and warm blooded beatings. you have hikers backpackers. all of that will show up on the infrared screen. >> it's new technology relatively speaking. tsarnaev they found him that way? >> yes. the human's body will be warm

the surrounding ground area colder. the idea is that a body will show up and stand out for the inthat red. the problem is they're searching a wide area they put the helicopter on top, you're searching a wide wooded area you know such as this to pick out one body on the ground and separate if from other bodies that belonged there, other bodies of animals as we said it becomes very difficult, to zero in the investigators to go to that location. we're really hoping the dogs get a good scent, they have had 48 hours to get that scent, and we don't know every detail we are hoping they're closing in. >> we hope they are closing in. don't go too far away the prison employee joyce mitchell is behind bars charged with helping the convicted killers escape now her husband also a prison employee speaking out about the escaped on an alleged plot to kill him.

brian todd is joining us with new details. >> new details on this plot. joyce mitchell's husband loves his wife but is angry with her, and doesn't know if he will stay with her. if she had picked up the inmates, and if he had been with her, they would both be dead. >> lyle mitchell claims he had no idea of the plot until the day after richard matt and david sweat escaped from the clinton correctional facility. in an interview with nbc, joyce mitchell's overwhelmed husband said there was another piece of news he got that day, at least one of these two killers had planned to kill him. >> she told me matt wanted her to pick him up. i would never leave without lyle. never. and he said well i'll give you some pills to give him, to knock him out, and then you come pikus up. she said i am not doing that i love my husband, i am not hurting him. >> she may have loved her husband, but lyle said three

times during the interview, he wasn't sure he loved her. she had a sexual relationship with one or both of the escaped inmates. lyle mitchell said absolutely not. >> he gave her a little attention, and it went too far. he tried to kiss her a couple times, she said no. and she said that's when he started threatening her. >> joyce mitchell's lawyer could not be reached for a response to her husband's remarks. joyce mitchells pleaded not guilty to charges of aiding the escapee escapee. the tools matt and sweat used may have been smuggled to them inside a frozen chunk of hamburger meat. a key question tonight, if mitchell helped them did she have help? >> i would be shocked if there was no help beyond this lady. >> jean palmer has been placed on administrative leave. palmer knew matt and sweat, got a painting from matt and used

the two inmates. the lawyer says palmer knew nothing of the escape plot. investigators may want to look at whether clinton had trustees inmates trusted by the prison staff who are allowed to move around freely. trustees are allowed to carry and work with tools. >> it is possible that they could have brought the materials to where these men were digging. and they could have transported them away. so that they wouldn't be found on searches. >> the clinton county da's office did not respond to our calls or e-mail about possibly investigating clinton's trustees neither the new york state department of corrections nor the state police would comment on that wolf? >> ryan tonight there's some extraordinary video of one inmate richard matt from the late 1990s, tell us about the incredible to watch. >> newly surfaced images showing matt's resistance to pain. this 1997 video obtained by abc

shows matt demonstrating a blow dart gun. at one point a friend shoots matt through the arm with it, and he doesn't flinch. take a listen. >> we're going to shoot a dart into ricky's arm. >> went in there, started to come out there. >> now, that was videotape in 1997 just months before richard matt murdered and dismembered his former boss. the detektive who put matt away for that is described as psychotic. that former detective david bentley told the new york times, i have seen him inflict wounds on himself, cut himself, break his collarbone and not seek any treatment. he's just totally fearless and doesn't respond to pain extraordinary video, wolf. >> certainly is. >> joining us now once again, our law enforcement analyst tom

fuentes fuentes, matthew horace who's joining us there he is from new york. retired chief deputy u.s. marshall here with us in washington. matthew, let me start with you, the franklin county sheriff believes these two guys are still operating together they haven't split up based on all the searches that you've conducted, what do you believe? >> it's amazing to me i believe they would be 13r5i9ed by now. if these guys were together they would find their way around. most of the time they would separate, knowing they would be targets. >> if you see two guys walking around people are going to get nervous, much more quickly than if you see an individual right tom? >> well that's true. i think they're still in the mode of needing each other for their own survival if they're trying to get food break into cabins keep a look out for somebody coming toward them it's easier with two people than

one. >> matt horace. you heard a prison guard said security was lax. do you think it's possible that tools could have been hidden in this frozen hamburger meat by passed through a metal detector? >> based on what we're hearing, it's almost possible that anything could have happened as tom fuentes pointed out. last night, this stuff is beginning to sound like a circus so it's very possible that could have happened. in addition to other things. >> we also know a pair of boots, provisions were towned in this cabin, where these two guys left in a hurry, is it possible that they knew about this cabin in advance, and the stuff had been left there for them by some other outside accomplices? >> it's possible. if they knew about this cabin and it had provisions placed there for them. they could have abandoned their old boots, clothing or underwear, take new clothing and

go from there. >> you would agree? >> yes. >> also this was just a holdup spot for just a temporary spot and then they moved on that is possible. i mean the bottom line is if you're in that same area you have no place to go you would have a spot where you would go lay low for a while and take off. >> there's a lot of cabins up in that part of upstate new york. people have their summer cabins but they're usually empty, other than in the summertime only now are people beginning to go back to some of those cabins. >> that's right. i don't think these guys knew that. we're going to take a quick break, much more on this developing story. we're getting closer and closer to these two guys, we'll see what happens, stay with us. ♪ ♪ if you want a paint with no harsh fumes. if you want a paint without harmful chemicals. if you want a paint that's safer

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you look at the elaborate escape how these guys got out, you wouldn't have thought they just went out there and got cold feet being out there, and expecting someone to pick them up that never picked them up. i believe it is a great possibility they could have had a pot, they went to a spot at first and they left. that could have been the spot and told somebody let's just make this we fooled the police make them think you've been here all along, leave stuff there so the police could stay on the trail. >> do you believe they planted dna there, knowing it would divert the police? >> maybe not intentionally plant dna, but go to this cabin and have provisions put there by some other ago politician that was going to help them they would get fresh clothes, boots, some food whatever else they need and take off. their dna would still be there as of three weeks later, saturday when the cop went there, we don't know that's possible.

>> matthew horace what do you think? >> a lot smarter criminals have made stronger mistakes than these two. i think one lucky break in this case and we're going to have both those gentlemen in cuffs, that's regardless of the complexity and the elaborateness of their plan. >> i wouldn't call them gentlemen, these guys as you well know better than anyone these guys are convicted killers, they're hardly gentlemen, but they are obviously pretty intelligent and sophisticated. they seem to know what they're doing, and by all accounts they must have had and they probably have some outside help. what do you think? >> i have said that from the beginning, there had to be more help than just the one suspect who's in custody right now. there are too many elements of support and health throughout this case it's very complex, a lot of unanswered questions and questions that the law enforcement authorities know now, that we don't. >> let's say they catch these guys today or tomorrow. what are they doing with them? they're not going to send them

back to clinton correctional facility from which they escaped? >> absolutely not. it's going to be serious interrogation, trying to find out everything they get. they will be taken to another -- >> is he legible to go to that super max prison in colorado even though they're not charged with federal crimes? >> i would say, i mean the bottom line is where are they going to take -- it's going to be somewhere -- it's a super max. they're going to be somewhere where they don't escape again. >> let's hope they're not in the honor role if you will. they're not going to be able to mingle and do whatever they were doing. >> all right, guys thanks very much. there's also breaking news in south carolina where the effort to take down the confederate flag at the state capitol got past a major hurdle today. we have details. also another american is now charged with supporting isis. he was actually plotting to kill up to 1,000 americans.

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out in the legislature today, both at the house and the senate they were able to approve a resolution that says they will begin -- they will allow the discussion of possibly bringing down the confederate flag that's really no small debt. they needed a two thirds majority and they got it. just saying you're going to talk about it is a long way from passing any resolution. meanwhile, there was a very large demonstration on the state house property today. right in the face of the monument where the confederate flag flies. it got a bit testy for the moment. but it shows you emotions are strong on this issue. and we have a long way to go. >> we certainly do. the debate in south carolina certainly sparked a huge debate in other states as well. tell us what's going on? >> it was really amazing about how quickly this has caught fire across the south. for instance the state of mississippi. it actually has the confederate flag emblem of it built into it's state flag it was last

night that the speaker of the house republicans said that it is probably time to have that removed. he didn't say probably about it it is time to have that removed, because it is offensive or deemed offensive to some. that's a major step forward on the part of mississippi, however, just saying you're going to do it and acting upon it it could be a long way before that happens. other states have that emblem. virginia is one example of that north carolina is another. they're taking steps to remove that as a possibility of someone buying if and putting on their automobile. in many ways the confederate flag is woven into a lot of states and now trying to extricate it could be a difficult and tricky process, has begun. >> it certainly has, and will be tricky in many of those states. as you also know major retailers, businesses they're stopping the sale of confederate flags, tell us about that. >> well, and that's another issue here you know just showing you how fast people are

trying to move walmart certainly one of the biggest if not the biggest retailers says no you won't be able to buy the flag any more belt buckles that have the confederate emblem or shirts or any kind of clothing apparel. sears is the same way, amazon says you won't be able to buy it online. it's not to say you won't be able to buy this. there are millions of outlets across the country. small ones mom-and-pop places or other outlets where people will be able to purchase that merchandise if they so choose remember it's not trying to stop the -- anyone buying the flag in the state of south carolina returning it here it's merely saying it shouldn't be flown on state or public property if someone wants to do it in their own home, that is perfectly fine. wolf? >> martin savage on the scene for us thank you. let's get perspective on what's going on in south carolina right now. across the nation with us is the president of charleston branch of the naacp. thanks very much for coming

back do you expect this will successfully pass through the south carolina state legislature? the governor the two republican senators they're all in favor of removing the flag from the state capitol grounds? do you expect it will go through both houses? >> i'm consciously optimistic we have our governor and the momentum going that could surely have the flag removed and no longer fly on the premises of the state house. >> it took nine people dying for south carolina ace top elected officials to finally call for the confederate battle flag to be removed from the capitol grounds. why did this come with a steep price? >> everything it seems to me the civil rights the price for our -- what i call equality the dignity for african-americans,

it's always been pricy, this is an awful price to pay. why this had to happen maybe we'll understand it at some point. right now, i'm glad that as a result of the -- i mean the horrendous loss of life that we're having to deal with now, that there will be something positive that will come out there. maybe not only the confederate flag will be removed from the state house grounds, but maybe some hearts and minds are going to change and say, enough is enough in terms of reminding african-americans that simply by flying the flag that was the picture of why -- we had to suffer the loss of the civil war. so i'm optimistic that at this point there's some good that will come out. >> let's see, as you also know. major retailers, including walmart and sears. ebay among others they announced they will pull

confederate flag merchandise. not sell any more since those announcements, sales of confederate flags, related paraphernalia, have skyrocketed on amazon. amazon decided this afternoon to pull the merchandise from their sight as well. just before pulling it they noted that the number of people buying confederate flags had gone up 3,000, 4,000 p%. what do you make of that. >> i think we've had some issues with the duck dynasty. the very same thing happened. i don't know if people are buying it because they feel they won't be able to get it but that does not surprise me at all. and maybe instead of walmart after the good deed saying they were no longer going to sell it someone's going to buy it from them so as long as it's gone and it doesn't come back, we'll be fine with that. >> the confederate flag a big

problem, how do you get to the problem. >> that begins with honest conversation around race and exactly what is underneath all of this. when we look at the issues of education in south carolina we look at what we deal with here in charleston. the divide that continues to separate kids and schools. the rumors of schools that are equalization schools until we deal with those issues hearts and minds must change in order for us to truly be a state we can be proud of. >> as you know the president, president obama, the first lady the vice president joe biden, they will all travel to charleston this friday the president will deliver the eulogy for the reverend

clementepincknen who was one of the victims of the church massacre. what would you like to hear from the president of the united states. >> the idea is to eulogyize senator pinckney he walked the talk. he was there 234 an elected capacity but also he was an activist in terms of dealing with the issues of civil rights i think our president, i have all the confidence that he will say all of the right things that needs to be said. >> dodd thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> coming up here in the situation room we're getting some alarming new details about yet another american isis suspect. police say he was plotting to actually try to kill 1,000 americans. automotive innovation starts...

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richard matt this happening just about a week before the prison escape. in terms of how that hamburger meat was passed through to richard matt. it was through a guard. it's a violation of prison policy for that meat not to go through a metal detector. his client did not know what was in that frozen chunk much meat. he at this point is under investigation. a little more information coming to us about joyce mitchell we've been hearing so much about her and her husband. she had personally vouched for richard matt and david sweat for several months bringing in baked goods, giving them to guards there at the prison these two inmates were good guys and could be trusted and in fact we're also hearing sources telling us

that joyce mitchell went as far as going to prison officials and convincing them and saying it would be a good idea to move david sweat's cell next to richard matt's cell. we all know what happened shortly after that. we reached out to prison officials to get their comments on all of this. they said this is an ongoing investigation, they were not able to comment on it at this time. but, you know today when we heard so much from lyle mitchell talking about his wife and she was saying so much of this was fantasy, and she got in too deep. it appears that for several months she was vouching for these two inmates, once again going as far as telling prison officials she thought it would be a good idea to move david sweat's cell next to richard matt's. >> shocking information. jason carroll, thanks very much. >> we keep hearing so many different stories, i don't know what to believe, that she says. i don't know.

>> the same wolf when you talk about somebody getting that involved she's filing every type of right you can think of. how much can we trust her, those prisoners were manipulating her to do what they needed to do to get out of there. >> putting hacksaw blades into frozen meet and getting that meat through the prison without going through a metal detector. >> we maintained there had to be more pan one person involved. the reason why investigators go back and reinterview and reinterview suspects sometimes we get more information with each interview, it seems to me like tom said this story keeps changing by the minute really unknown at this time what to believe and what not to believe. who knows what we'll be hearing a weak from now. >> we'll get more information.

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year we've seen a number of suspects arrested. the fact that this is coming on the same day as a brutal new isis video, shows the exact reach of this organization all the way into the u.s. >> he's a teenager a muslim convert from north carolina and allegedly the latest isis recruit in the u.s. the criminal complaint 19-year-old justin sullivan told an undercover agent that he was blotting to obtain a semiautomatic a.r. 15 rifle to kill as many as 1,000 people. he also threatened to use biological weapons, coating bullets with cyanide and setting off a gas bomb. >> did you know any of this was going on? >> no. >> it was sullivan's father who first alerted authorities. calling 911 in april after his son apparently dowsed the house in gasoline. >> i don't know if it's isis or what. i come home and he's destroyed buddhas and figurines and burning stuff. we're scared to leave the house.

>> sullivan can be heard in the background. >> you put gasoline in the house. >> i didn't do anything. >> his arrest and more than 30 others like it so far this year demonstrate isis' growing reach on the u.s. homeland. as well as a major effort by law enforcement to act quickly. >> isil has spent about a year investing in trying to reach troubled minds in the united states through >> now there is a new fear. one senator telling cnn, there is concern over time lone wolves may no longer act alone. joining together in teams, increasing the ability to carry out larger attacks like the killing in texas. >> you had a couple guys linked up for the attack. it is absolutely a concern. >> so far this year there have been at least 35 arrests for material support for terrorism. many of them for isis. that's an enormous increase from

last year and that is due in part to greater attention. law enforcement is going after these cases more aggressively but also because isis is radicalizing more young men and sometimes women in the u.s. a great concern. >> is there a new concern with paying ransom? >> this is formalizing what had been the policy and practice. officially it is illegal to pay ransom to hostage takers but in effect the white house looked the other way. now they are saying openly and publicly you're okay to do this. we won't prosecute you. they're forming a fusion cell had will allow the white house to deal with the families. there are complaints from many of the families. we're also getting a closer than ever look at the fearful and brutal realities of every day life under isis. the correspondent made her way into the border.

here's her exclusive report. >> no one is around to tell us who was held here. or what horrors transpired at the prison. there was a stench of sewage on one solitary confinement cell's floor, splotches of red. >> a scrap of paper. an idea of what is considered a crime under isis. in this case taking god's name in vain. among the many draconian directives of isis rule. another forbidden act, smoking. this is the first time in two years that cigarettes are being sold in tal abyad. this is the first shipment that he's brought in. he is saying there is a cage of a roundabout down the street that they would put people in for punishment for doing things like selling cigarettes. we're taken to see it and told

the story of a man who spent three days here for playing cards. also banned. the streets of tal abyad obviously very clean. isis also ordered perpetrators of crimes to pick up trash. at one of the isis security offices, the ominous black flag dominates every wall. lest anyone forget who is in control here. and we find a handful of blank pads. of official forms on an office shelf. shuttered store front after store front is spray painted red with a word meaning it was claimed as property of the islamic state. >> there is a group of men back there. they don't want to appear on camera because they have relatives living in the isis stronghold but they were talking about how wretched life under their rule was. how they didn't dare stand up to them. how no one dared to speak out. but they say they chose to

continue living here because what they have here that was everything they possess in life and trying to survive as a refugee would be too difficult. and all of them we were speaking to then pointed to this roundabout. this was called the roundabout of death. it was here that isis carried out that its executions. the remnants of life under isis plagued this town where it seemed like reality was worse than what anyone could imagine. cnn, tal abyad, syria. >> thanks a lot. coming up searchers surround a rugged area where sources say two escaped killers left behind dna traces. also the suspected accomplice joyce mitchell has admitted hiding hacksaw blades in a chunk of hamburger meat. after the racially motivated massacre in charleston south carolina southern lawmakers are working to drop the confederate flag and retailers are banning

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happening now, breaking news. a flurry of new activity in the hunt for two escaped killers. and we have new details about

critical clues they left behind in a hunting cabin. we're also learning about a shocking statement made by a prison worker who helped them he is came. and a passionate new push to remove the confederate flag from the state capital and some of the largest retailers say they'll no longer sell merchandise bearing the emblem. i'll talk about the debate. stunning new revelations from the medical examiner report on freddy gray. what impact will the new information have on the police officers charged on his death? and trump rising. the outspoken billionaire presidential candidate surging in a new poll showing him near the top of the republican path. cnn catches up with him as he steps off the campaign trail and on