of the state capitol every day, behind the confederate war memorial. it's the state of prom nance that caused so much debate and contention over the past week. anna cabrera has been here following the political shifting sapd sands. >> reporter: we are seeing racism and that's what this flag controversy is to so many that believe the flag represents a racist mentality that is rooted in history. as you pointed out, the flag stands in front of the state capitol today. the fight is not over yet. >> take it down! >> reporter: hundreds of protesters demand the confederate flag be removed in the wake of the shooting at the ame church in charleston. >> to keep human beings as

slaves. >> reporter: inside south carolina lawmakers allowing a debate to do just that. >> mr. bennett? >> reporter: ten did not vote. >> i think that misuse and miseducation of the flag is what pushed it to this point. >> reporter: he says we shouldn't let hate groups dictate how we feel. >> we are focusing on the wrong thing here. we need to focus on the nine families. people use the flag as a symbol of hatred. >> reporter: in mississippi where the confederate battle flag is part of the state flag the speaker is calling for it to be removed. georgia and a state sponsored confederate license plate of the flag. governors in tennessee, north carolina and virginia are saying they will support removing the

plates from production entirely. >> today, i am calling for actions to be taken and the removal of the confederate flag. >> this, as ebay walmart and amazon are banning the flag from their shelves. >> we don't want to sell products that make anyone feel uncomfortable. we felt that was the case, the right thing to do. >> reporter: now, at this point, it's unclear exactly when the state legislature is going to take up the legislation to take down the flag. they are likely to focus on it after fourth of july but today, it's all about the victims. one of the nine killed as you know was state senator clementa pinckney. at this point, it's unknown whether the flag will be flying during that time. >> thank you. today is a pivotal day here and a very intense day emotionally

as well. we will talk to people in south carolina and how they feel. back to new york. >> we will be watching for it. we want to let you know this morning, there is new information. police told us the charleston terrorist was arrested without incident. now, we are getting a look at the pursuit that led police to nap the confessed killer. we have the latest on that. what do we know? >> reporter: when you look at the video, you get a sense of how calm dylann roof was hours after he walked into this church and shot and killed nine people. >> confirmed it is the suspect. >> reporter: newly released footage from police dashcam along with 911 dispatch calls give a fuller picture of the moments leading up to the capture of dylann roof. >> black hyundai, white male

traveling northbound. >> reporter: police were on the lookout for roof after killing nine people inside an historic african-american church. the next day, an officer in south carolina some 250 miles away received a tip from a woman driving to work who spotted roof because of his hair. the officer called 911. >> i got a call on my personal cell phone. a lady called a friend of mine and said he was behind the car matching the description of the charleston killer. a south carolina tag on it. white male early 20s with a bowl haircut. >> reporter: the dashcam shows police closing in epding the 14-hour manhunt. they ordered roof to step out of the vehicle, placing his hand on top of the car. he was checked for weapons but none found on his body. roof was traveling with a

handgun in the backseat. now, officers found that gun underneath a pillow in the backseat suggesting that roof spent the night in his car following the shooting. meanwhile, a federal law enforcement source tells cnn roof purchased the weapon in west columbia south carolina not far from where he lived. alisyn? >> okay thanks so much for all of that background. we want to bring in a cnn contributor and former south carolina state representative. we want to talk about what's happening. thank you for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> when is the flag going to come down? >> that's a good question. i'm optimistic about it coming down. there has to be a vote but hopefully -- >> that's the way you think it is going? there's still obviously resistance and some will fight it. you believe, ultimately this flag is coming down? >> i think that's the goal. i think it's the way south

carolina is moving. i think that's the way the world is moving. i had a conversation with a few legislatures yesterday. there are two pages in history, the right side and the wrong side. i think many legislators want to be on the right side. we have some outliners, some in my generation. we look forward to south carolina moving into the 21st century. >> should governor nikki haley do something? she had it within her power to temporarily take the flag down. there's a loophole in the law. >> there's a gap. >> it says it can come down for wear and tear. is that what's going to happen? >> you actually caught me off a little bit. i hope that she does it for a moment. i hope while myself and a few others are escorting our friend's body into the row tundra today at 1:00 the flag

is not there. that's my hope. will she do it? i don't have any insight into that that's my prayer. >> if ultimately the flag is removed permanently and goes to a museum what does that change? how does it change racism? >> it doesn't necessarily change racism. it does begin the discussion. many teem in south carolina many people throughout the south, whether here or mississippi, we have been echoing the chance that we want to have this debate. we want to have this discussion. in south carolina we want to have a discussion about economics. we want to pivot and talk about economics and a court of shame where children of color go to school where heating and air-conditioning don't work. i had a school where the cafeteria roof fell down. these are things we want to talk about. these are opportunities we have. with the flag coming down we can begin the discussion.

>> i went over and read the inscription on the war memorial. this is people's ancestors. they bravely fought for what they have. at that time they believed in what they were doing. what do you say to people who say it's about the pride of my ancestors. >> i respect that. tough have respect for that especially growing up in the south. i can tell you, my father was shot 60 miles away from here in south carolina in what's known as the orange massacre. 27 other students were wounded and three were killed. i can also tell you, i understand the history of jimmy lee jackson of the 16th street bombing and the nine people killed last week. the wounds are very real and deep. my father is 70 years old. hopefully he can have peace. >> thank you for sharing all of

that. hold on we want to bring in ronnie musgrove. he was governor when voters decided to keep the state flag. thanks for joining us this morning. >> thank you, alisyn. pleasure to be with you. >> governor sorry for the delay. what do you think about governor nikki haley coming out and so unequivocally saying it's time for the flag to come down? >> well now is a time for healing. certainly, it is time to retire the confederate flag. but, if all we take away from this horrible tragedy is that we have done terribly little for inequality in america, that's not a good sign. i think it's time to move forward with the discussion that matters. getting rid of the flag in mississippi won't end racism. keeping it shows we are not

going to try. >> let's talk about mississippi. your state is in a worse predicament than south carolina because your emblem is part of the flag. this is something you tried to do as we said in 2001 but voters rejected it. do you think that today, voters in mississippi, we are putting up what the flags look like. that's the proposed flag in 2001 but they didn't like that. do you think the tide has turned? >> barnes georgia and myself had it used against us by republicans including mark sanford. we all three lost. if republicans want to say they are doing something, then address education in the south. level the playing field.

expand health care. create opportunity. then you will know we are serious about the real problems behind the flag. that is the issue to address. the problem of institutional racism has caused us a loss of opportunity all across the south. that's where we want to get to is greater opportunity for all of our citizens. >> governor you are making such a good point. obviously, the flag is just a symbol. there's real work to be done on the ground. does that symbol in your state of mississippi, need to change first? >> our state is last in educational achievement, income lack of job opportunity and health care. that's not a coincidence. the flag is a part of it. but, the real problem is the attitude it represents.

we must change the attitude if we are going to move forward and give all of our citizens opportunity. that's the challenge. that should be the goal for all of us as elected leaders, to provide opportunity for all our citizens. >> former governor ronnie musgrove thank you for sharing your perspective on the flag in mississippi, south carolina and beyond. nice to have you on "new day." we will be talking about this all morning. we have all different perspectives for you as i send it back to you in new york. >> we'll get back to you shortly. now, up state new york where the hunt continues for matt and sweat. they are on the run nearly three weeks. a source says one of the escapees may be barefoot leaving behind a pair of boots at a cabin where dna was found. we are hearing how joyce mitchell may have swayed other

guards. we have joined from kativille, new york so many developments for us. >> reporter: good morning, law enforcement officials are just starting to arrive at the man post. they are hoping for better weather today. it's been raining and law enforcement sources told cnn that rain was slowing down the investigation. they are getting ready to go out for another day of searching, learning about joyce mitchell's involvement. law enforcement sources telling cnn he admitted to sneaking hacksaw blades inside frozen hamburger meat. she convinced a guard to pass the meat through without going through a metal detector. that is a violation of prison policy. he says his client was duked by mitchell. we are hearing mitchell tried to gain favors for the inmates offering pas pastries to the

guards. intriguing revelations. we got word one of the inmates may be barefoot because of the boots discovered inside that broken into cabin. investigators are hoping they are getting closing to the men. chris? >> thank you very much. we are going to follow that throughout the morning with information as well as what went into the caper to begin with. the northeast is waking up to major damage this morning after a round of really strong early storms. some of the weather got caught on video. this guy shooting this you have to be careful with the cameras. this guy got too close. this is a possible tornado in long beach island new jersey sending debris flying and tossing the guy as well. more severe weather is on the way. let's get to meteorologist chad myers with what lies ahead. what do you see, my friend? >> all the way from nebraska to south of chicago, along the same

line we had so much severe weather yesterday. 200 reports of severe weather across the country and here are some of the pictures. overnight, the supercell storm system that ravages much of the midwest and injured a dozen people is tearing through much of the northeast. the severe weather knocking out power for thousands across the region. pennsylvania bearing the brunt of the storm. >> devastated our backyard our neighbors. the shingles were blowing off, the trees falling down. >> i grabbed my kids ran into the basement. it was terrifying. >> reporter: powerful winds splitting homes inside. >> i have never seen anything like this as bad as this. >> reporter: in central maryland one driver killed after hitting a tree that fell on the road. >> weird looking up there, isn't it? >> yes. >> reporter: storm clouds over fenway park casting an ominous

backdrop. the downed power lines caused numerous accidents. there's good news at the end of the tunnel. by the time the cold front goes by a trough is going to change everything across the northeast, shut off the severe weather, guys and look at the weekend. new york, the high will be 71. we go back to spring for a few days and get out of this muggy mess. >> i like that you know how i operate. i always need good news at the end of this, chad. good work. thank you very much. president obama's fast track trade deal expected to pass a final senate vote. after that it will head to his desk for signature. it passed tuesday by the slimmest of margins. the fast track authority president obama can negotiate trade deals when congress won't be able to amend them only vote

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day 19 in the search for the two escaped killers. here is the latest. joyce mitchell admits to putting hacksaw blades in frozen hamburger meat and sneaking it to the inmates. this as the search heats up. that's one term for it. let's bring in sheriff david. thank you for joining us. the search heating up. i'm probably exaggerating a little bit there. you have cause for optimism because you found dna in this cabin. is there any reason to believe you are close to getting these guys?

>> the area they are in is very rugged very very dense terrain and rocky. it's difficult to move through quickly. we hope to keep them confined into this particular space. the enthusiasm and optimism on the ground is higher than it has been. >> that's good. i feel better reporting that then. if it's so rugged and tough, especially for people who aren't accustomed to being there, not just talking about the killers, but your guys any thought to having hunters from the region and professional trackers to come in and help you guys? >> i have heard that response a couple different times. i think that poses a few problems. one is communication. if you put people that are not law enforcement in the wooded areas searching and law enforcement comes upon them now, you have a difficult encounter that could add

unfavorably unfavorably. we don't want that to occur. >> you could give them temporary shields and vests. it's not like if you have an outsider you are going to necessarily kill the guy. >> it's true. in the small area when you can see exactly how dense and mountainous it is we are approximately 1,000 members from multiple agencies. i don't think it's the volume of staffing that's difficult it's the ruggedness of terrain and hiding among thousands and thousands of areas. >> it would be better, people used to moving the terrain because they hunt there. i'll leave it to you to figure out the best way to do it. when we hear that frozen chopped meat was used to smuggle it in, that was a shock. where they were housed, they were allowed to cook their own food then the prison guard

never ran it through any type of detector. joyce mitchell says she doesn't think the prison guard knew there was anything hidden in the meat. does that make sense to you? >> it doesn't make sense to me but an awful lot of things certainly can occur. i don't have a lot of knowledge on what's going on inside the walls of the state prison. but, as far as our facility goes you know, it's very difficult for something like that to get through. >> you have joyce mitchell there. you are the custodian for her. are you surprised at the timing of what she's been telling authorities or is it just the timing of how we are learning about it in the media? it seems like she's been stringing along the information she's giving them. or do you think it's how it's being released and that you have known all this for some time? >> i don't have any direct knowledge of exactly when she told the investigators the information that is now getting

out. but, i do know with any investigation, you have to be careful of what you put out to the public because it can hinder future leads from the investigation and prevent other people that may be involved from speaking up and saying something. we have to be very careful while it's going on. >> we know as the hunt continues outside, it is also continuing inside. there certainly will be more developments. good luck catching the two men. we are rooting for you putting them inside without injury. thanks for joining us as always. >> thank you. >> let's go back to alisyn in south carolina for our other big story this morning. alisyn? >> chris, ahead, we'll have more on the confederate flag controversy. it's not just happening in south carolina several states taking up the issue. how will republicans navigate this? our political panel, next.

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there has been a stunning turn around on the right when it comes to this confederate flag issue. after initially hedging, to put it nicely republicans are lining up to get the flag taken down. some say it's just for the state. there are polls in new hampshire that are going to be motivating discussion in politics. let's discuss it. alisyn is in south carolina. jeff it's good to have you there. alisyn you are part of the panel. i'm going to put a lot of questions to you you don't want to answer. >> go for it. >> this turn around. let me play this sound of lindsey graham.

i think he's provided a good metaphor for the turn around. look at lindsey graham when he said what he's saying now. >> the problems we have in south carolina and throughout the world are not because of the symbol, it's because of what's in people's heart. i can't fix every problem in the world, in the state, in the nation but we can start with the flag. it needs to come down and go to a museum. south carolina needs to get this right. i'll do whatever i can, along with my colleagues to get the number of votes necessary. >> one was friday one was yesterday. what happened? >> what happened chris, was all the republicans in south carolina beginning in south carolina joined hands and made it a decision to go forward with it. they knew it was the right thing to do. lindsey graham felt this way for a long time hid aides tell me. he was concerned about the south carolina primary voters and how they would react to this. by doing it together and joining forces it made clear this is

the way to go. i'm not sure this is leadership. this is following something that happened. the chamber of commerce in south carolina has been calling for this almost 20 years here. not exactly on the front edge here of leadership. >> i want to ask you more about lindsey graham. i interviewed him on friday down here in charleston. at that point, he said he was comfortable with the set up behind me. he was comfortable the flag was taken down from the top of the statehouse the dome to behind the confederate war memorial here. that was on friday. in the space of four days he's pivoted to thinking it should come down all together. is that okay that he's evolved quickly on this? >> well i think there's a lot going on behind the scene that is we are not seeing necessarily in interviews. a lot of hesitation within all the presidential campaigns over the weekend about exactly how to

handle this issue. it's a very sensitive issue in south carolina. obviously whens lyly republicans want to make sure they are doing it. many think the confederate flag does not belong in that framework. a lot of candidates were careful how far they stepped out in front of south carolina leaders. lindsey graham canceled his event and flew down and spoke to you on friday. i think he's been struggling with it for a long time and talked about wanting to reopen the discussion. what happened with the massacre moved people along more quickly. of course nikki haley gave candidates political coverage to come out and say what they did yesterday. >> i think that is definitely the positive spin on the dynamic at play here. i think there's a more cynical and realistic spin which is

jeff they are worried about the conservative voting base. it can't be a coincidence that the people on social media are popping up saying this isn't a hate crime. why is everything about race? maybe if you mean against christians or those saying the flag doesn't need to come down you are making it something of substance when it isn't. i think they are plain scared. that's why you see the state's rights. am i off? >> i think that's exactly where this was in the beginning of this on friday. you heard marco rubio saying this is up to the states. i was waiting for some of them so many republicans running for president, one to break out and say, no no no this is what a president does he leads or she leads on this type of issue. not anyone did. it took the leaders of south carolina joining hands and agreeing here to actually sort

of make this decision together. nikki haley probably was leading the way more than any presidential candidate. >> she should it's her state. mitt romney came out because he has nothing to lose by coming out. that boot straps it. there's no irony it's about state's rights versus a moral impairtive. it is the conversation that started the major conflict that birthed this flag in the first place. let's talk about the poll in new hampshire. donald trump says i'm number two? i can't believe i'm losing to bush. >> i can't believe bush is in first place. some people are thrilled. i'm not thrilled. how could bush be in first place? he can't negotiate his way out of a paper bag. >> i tell you, if we had trump doing the marketing for our show we might be the highest

rated thing on television. >> let's consider that. >> yeah the most important thing to understand here though with trump, is he has a very quick ceiling that he's going to hit. a lot of this second place finish for him right now is about name recognition. he also has the highest unfavoribility ratings of any candidate in iowa and nnew hampshire. unlike bernie sanders who has a lot of room to grow as a candidate, trump doesn't have much room. a lot of people say they would, under no circumstances vote for trump for president. >> if he's being honest here he's thrilled he's in second place. this is as high as it's going to get for him. he knows that. we love listening to him. we certainly love listening to him. second place in new hampshire is not so bad. if that's where he is right now he's got to be feeling good.

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headlines for you. lawmakers in south carolina agreeing to debate an initiative to remove the confederate flag at the capitol. states like mississippi, tennessee and virginia discussing changing their flags and banning license plates with the offensive symbol. ebay amazon target and sears will no longer sell confederate flag merchandise. joyce mitchell says it was

in the meat. she put hacksaw blades in meat and got a guard to pass it along, helping them escape. she made a mistake of bribing other guards with baked goods to do favors for the convicts. one of the escapees left boots behind in the cabin. it is possible he is barefoot. >> the 911 call after a son destroyed religious figurines and poured gasoline in the house. listen. >> i don't know if it's isis or what but i come home and he's destroying figurines and stuff. we are scared to leave the house. >> his son can be heard yelling in the background. he's accused of trying to support isis. he told an undercover agent he planned to kill as many as 1,000 americans. he faces up to 40 years in prison. it takes a lot for a father to do that to turn his son in.

>> a parent's job is not to protect their kid from the law. you know what i mean? what about everybody else? whether it's bullying or what up to this level, too often, parents protect their kids and deny. who know what is happens after that. ten hours. it was supposed to be four hours tom brady was given. the appeal over deflategate lasted ten hours. he gets the toughest defense he's ever faced in the nfl and the commission. ten hours, that's a long time. >> it is a long time. i thought we talked ant deflategate a lot. that's what brady and goodell did yesterday in new york. brady giving his side under oath to the commissioner. sources telling espn he gave an a plus performance. it is up to goodell to uphold the suspension. if he does brady's next move is

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welcome back to "new day." i'm here at the state house in columbia to find out how people

in south carolina feel about the flag and race and gun rights following the tragedy last week. we have voters at the house museum. they are men and women white and black, some are students some business owners democrats and independents. we hoped to have a retiree, but she canceled to go to a funeral for a friend killed in the massacre. here is what they are saying starting with the confederate flag. can i get a show of hands for those of you who think the confederate flag should be moveed from the state capitol? all of you. i'll start with you, why? >> since oppression slavery days. >> i agree. i think what governor haley said yesterday, we are looking at the future. put the past in the past and move on. >> i don't think it represents our current state. i believe, i'm a proud south

carolinian but it doesn't need to be at the capitol. >> why do we have to be reminded of a terrible event in history that divided our nation and continues to do so? >> what do you think the state legislature is going to do? what do you think is going to happen here? >> i think, given the fact it's been brought up after this week's tragedy, i think it will come down especially with the national attention we are getting. >> were you surprised governor nikki haley, in short order came out and said unequivocally, it's time for it to go. >> i'm not surprised she came out. i'm not surprised lindsey graham jumped on board. >> the public opinion that's come out on social media talking about it. it shows that our elected officials are listening to the people. it's a fantastic platform we have never had before.

>> the fact that that flag wasn't lowered during the ceremony this past week for the victims. the fact that it is locked in place at the top. i think that was more hurtful than it had ever been to certain groups of people. i think it's to do with igniting the conversation again. >> you are saying it wasn't lowered to half staff because it couldn't be? >> it's chained, padlocked up there. >> why didn't they lower it? >> it takes a two-thirds vote of the senate and house. >> to do anything? >> to move it in any sort of way. it's up there and staying until someone does something about it. >> it's a joke that we have to call a session to do this. send somebody up there, take it down and be done with it. >> let's talk about the issue of gun control. before this happened gun control was not at the top of your list or what you will be deciding on in 2016. because of the tragedy that

happened here last week are you revisiting your attitudes about guns? >> no. i still think, as individuals, as citizens we should have the right to bear arms. there needs to be more regulation. >> who is comfortable with more stringent background checks. >> absolutely. >> did you feel that way before this tragedy? did this tragedy change anything for you all? >> it changed my outlook on living in this area and just kind of realizing the deep seated racism that still lives. being from up north, i really wasn't exposed to it. coming here i hadn't seen those examples until this happened. it was shocking to see that somebody felt that way, i mean felt that intensely motivated to go out and kill people because of the color of their skin. >> can we blame charleston? can we blame south carolina for what this gunman did?

is this indicative of the south or south carolina? or are we misplacing that impression? >> you can't blame the state of city because something happens, but you can blame the way that people not think, but the way people raise their kids and interact with one another. >> the boy was 21 years old. a lot of it he was raised in this manner as well. you know so it's education. it's teaching the proper way to you know raise your children. >> do you think racism is alive and well in the south? >> yes. yes. based on living here and moving away from here and living in different states it's alive and well. in charleston we are more liberal. outside of charleston it's a different animal, going into small towns and experiencing overt racism the way they try to talk condescending and take a step back. once they realize you are sort

of educated they fall back. >> i think charleston is not so filled with hatred and racism because a lot of people are transplants. it's a new energy in the city. i know coming from colorado it has been a culture shock seeing that there still are some places in areas in the state, not within the city of charleston that are really racist. >> john you are nodding. you grew up around here. what is your take? >> i wouldn't necessarily say racism is prevalent, but it's underlying a lot of interactions between people. i don't have an answer as to how that can change. i think it's indicative all of us we live in charleston. we are not racist. we are getting better. >> so tomorrow we'll have much more of that conversation with these voters talking about all sorts of other issues they think should be at the core. chris and michaela i was struck

they all felt the same way about the confederate flag. again, we had republicans, independents and democrats. some felt it should stay up at the state capitol, but none felt that way. >> it would have been interesting, but it was poignant to note the retiree you wanted to join it would be interesting to get their perspective, but she lost a friend in the mess for the very reason some of these conversations are so very very important and urgent right now. >> younger group, also. >> yeah so true. >> there's certainly a diversity of opinion in this flag. we are going to have on show a man who wants to be president. he has a message for those fighting for the flag. dr. ben carson is coming up with other news we are following this morning. let's get to it. >> take it down! take it down! >> walmart, kmart, sears, amazon and ebay decided to stop selling

the confederate flag. >> god help south carolina to achieve the goal in removing the flag. >> the suspect looks like the suspect on the news from the charleston shooting. >> new video showing the arrest of dylann roof in north carolina. he's actually quite docile for a man accused of being a mass murderer. >> the results of freddie gray autopsy. >> "the baltimore sun" saying the injuries occurred while in police custody. >> they have an obligation to treat you a certain way. >> good morning, everyone. welcome back to your "new day." i am live in columbia south carolina. chris and michaela are in new york. we will be with them momentarily. when you are here at the state capitol in south carolina you see a couple striking things. first, the confederate flag is directly in front of the capitol building. remember it was moved in 2000

off the dome of the building. ironically in some ways it is more prominent. now, it is the first thing you see when you drive up. also today, it is the one flag that is not at half staff. the u.s. flag and the state flag are at half staff to honor the victims of the massacre but the confederate flag cannot be changed. its position cannot be changed without the general assembly approving it. there is a lot to debate here in south carolina this morning. cnn is covering it from every angle. we want to bring in anna cabrera that's been here for days about the shifting political sand you have watched. >> it's a cultural switch. that really is what this whole flag controversy is all about to so many people who believe the flag symbolizes a racist mentality that is rooted in history. of course the flag still stands here in front of the state

capitol today. this fight isn't over yesterday. . >> it shouldn't fly anywhere. >> presidential hopeful, hillary clinton, applauding the growing momentum for the removal of the confederate flag in south carolina. >> recognizing it as a symbol of our nation's racist past that has no place in our present. >> take it down! >> reporter: on tuesday, hundreds of protesters demanded the flag be removed in the wake of the vicious murders at the emanuel ame church in charleston. >> fighting to continue to keep human beings as slaves. >> reporter: inside south carolina lawmakers overwhelmingly voting to allow debate on a bill to do that. lawmakers digging in their heels voting against it and ten did not vote. we shouldn't