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most of thighs items to actually violate federal laws. whole foods of course responded saying it disagreed with the city's findings. it said the agency had not yet provided evidence to back up its claims but instead took this issue to the media to coerce whole foods. now, for how this will all play out, we'll have to keep history in mind here. whole foods paid almost $800,000 in fines last year for similar charges in california. jake? >> christina alesci. that's it for "the lead." turning you over to wolf blitzer in the situation room. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com happening now, obama care saved. the united states supreme court, protecting subsidies for millions of americans. republicans vow to fight on. it's a huge win for president obama. i'll speak with the white house press secretary josh ernst. guard charged. a second prison worker tells police he helped make the escape
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of two convicted killers easier. why he's now facing three felony counts. mourning in charleston. the first two massacre victims are laid to rest and a viewing is to begin shortly for the reverend clementa pinckney in the emanuel ame church where he was murdered. trump rising. breaking news a cnn exclusive, donald trump's reputation is resonating now with republican voters in new hampshire. our brand new poll results. that's coming up. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." this is cnn breaking news. we're following multiple breaking stories starting with an eye opening new poll of republicans in the first of the nation primary state of new hampshire. a just-released cnn/wmur poll shows donald trump hot on the heels of jeb bush. bush has 16%, trump is at 11%.
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no other republican candidate is in the double digits. senator rand paul is in third with 9%. much more on this poll coming up this hour. we also have new details about the second prison worker charged in connection with the escape of two new york killers. why does his attorney want to be taken off the case and where are the escapees? we're following today's historic 6-3 supreme court decision as well a decision saving president obama's health care law. as people celebrated outside the u.s. supreme court, the president and his staff exchanged hugs inside the oval office. the reaction is continuing to pour in. in just a few minutes i'll speak live with white house press secretary josh ernst. there you see him. our correspondents and experts are standing by. let's get the very latest. justice correspondent pamela brown was at the supreme court when today's historic ruling was announced. tell us what happened.
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>> wolf, crowds erupted when the ruling came. this is a huge victory for president obama who nearly saw his signature legislative ruined by four words. justice roberts saying when you look at the law as a whole, it's clear the intent was for eligible americans to receive subsidies no matter where they live, not just in the states that set up their own exchanges. this means millions of americans can keep receiving subsidies to help them pay for health insurance. the government argued early on these subsidies are crucial and without them there would be chaos. now, in a scathing dissent, justice scalia from the bench sitting right next to chief justice roberts said the six justices in this majority opinion including conservatives kennedy and roberts were essentially rewriting the law by saying tax credits are available everywhere. he even suggested we start calling this law scotus care.
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he said this sitting right next to chief justice roberts. no doubt about it, wolf this is a resounding victory for the obama administration. >> a huge huge win for the president and his team. there's another major decision we're expecting from the u.s. supreme court as early, potentially, as tomorrow morning. >> absolutely. we're expecting the court to decide one of the greatest civil rights cases of the decade whether states are al lound to ban gay marriage. gay rights advocates are hoping that the court is poised to make history and say marriage is a fundamental right and gays cannot be excluded from that right, essentially clearing the way for same-sex couples nationwide to get married. supporters of the ban have been saying that decision should be left up to the people not the courts. the court could also go with maidal ground upholding the bans but saying states must acknowledge lawfully performed marriages in other case. all eyes will be in justice kennedy to see if he sments his legacy as a gay rights champion.
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>> anxious to see what chief justice john roberts decides on this historic decision as well. we assume those four liberal justices, the democratic appointed justices they will go with equal rights with gay marriage. we'll see what justice kennedy and justice roberts do as well. the court's ruling today is a huge victory for president obama who says it proves his health care law, quote, is here to stay. let's go to our white house correspondent michelle kosinski in the rose garden when the president came out to speak about the ruling michelle? >> for all the creative and confident posturing the white house has been doing leading up to this momentous decision calling this an easy case that shouldn't have even been taken up the sense of relief around here and celebration that things actually did go their way is more than palpable. >> aca is here to stay.
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>> reporter: celebration outside the highest court and in a far more reserved way at the white house. the president and his chief of staff -- >> today is a victory for hard working americans all across the country whose lives will continue to become more secure in a changing economy because of this law. the affordable care act is here to stay. >> reporter: administration officials beamed from the front row and the president spoke directly to his legacy clearly feeling it solidifying now before him on this. >> some day our grandkids will ask us if there was really a time when america discriminated against people who get sick because that is something this law has ended for good. >> reporter: the supreme court's majority opinion by conservative chief justice roberts no less mirroring almost word for word what the white house has been saying about congress's role. >> their interest is not in trying to protect the critically important gains that have been
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enjoyed by millions of americans across the country, but rather to dismantle them. >> roberts writing, congress passed the affordable care act to improve health insurance markets, not to destroy them. and on the same day, another victory on another key legacy item for this president, trade. >> the bill is passed. >> congress finally passing two contentious bills setting a stage for a massive trade pact with asia. president obama, though acknowledging that more battles lie ahead as republicans vow to keep trying to, quote, protect americans from obamacare by repealing it. >> my greatest hope is that rather than keep refighting battles that have been settled again and again and again, i can work with republicans and democrats to move forward. so this was a good day for america. let's get back to work. [ applause ] >> reporter: it's not over yet, not on obamacare, not on trade.
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keep in mind the deadline for the iran nuclear deal is coming up in only five days. that is going to bring plenty of fireworks as well as practically the whole world weighing in. wolf? >> lots going on. thanks michelle on capitol hill and beyond. disappointed republicans, and they are deeply disappointed promising not to give up the effort to try to repeal and replace the president's health care law. let's go to chief conditioningal correspondent dana bash who is getting lots of reaction. >> that's right, wolf. you know very well there's often a difference in politics between rhetoric and reality. for republicans on this particular supreme court case the gulf is huge. on the republican 2016 trail, outrage. >> i disagree with their decision. i believe obamacare is bad for americans, bad for the country. >> reporter: even though the supreme court's decision was written by chief justice john roberts, a republican appointee, conservatives like mike huckabee talked about an out-of-control
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act of judicial tyranny, renewing promises to replace obamacare. >> we need to replace and repeal obamacare. >> this election in 2016 for the house and the senate and the white house will give you a chance to stop obamacare. >> reporter: despite all that strident rhetoric behind the scenes in many republican quarters there is a giant sigh of relief. if the supreme court had gone the other way, ruled the government subsidies for obamacare are unconstitutional it would have been up to the gop-led congress to deal with the fallout for 6.5 million americans still required to have health insurance but can't afford it without government dollars. >> crocodile tears are flowing here in our nation's capital. >> reporter: ted cruz tried to jind up his tea party base by calling up his own republican establishment. >> quietly celebrating the court's decision. the if they believe this issue is now settled so they don't have to address it, they are sorely
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mistaken mistaken. >> reporter: in fact conservative activists say there will be even more pressure on the gop-led congress to vote again to repeal obamacare, especially the senate now led by republicans. >> the grassroots advocates, rank and file republicans, tea party activists, all those people are asked by the party, give us your votes, your energy walking precincts and get out the vote, give us your money and we will repeal obamacare and then it doesn't happen. >> senate republican leadership source tells me the gop-led senate does plan to take up the repeal of obama kaerks likely in the fall. they probably can get the repeal to the president's desk but will not have the volts to override his veto. the law won't change and that's the key here, the law will not change while president obama is in office. the votes simply aren't there. politically republicans feel a lot of pressure from conservatives to try and they're going to do it. >> they can make statements they can get it pass phd the shows rhouse
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and senate. they don't have the two-thirds override that would be required when the president vetoes any piece of legislation. thank you, dana. >> thank you. let's go to white house, press secretary to the president josh ernst is joining us now. would you say, josh today is one of the two or three happiest days of the presidency for barack obama? >> we didn't really have an interesting confluence of events here. the president had been fighting for months hire to try to get this bipartisan majority built in the congress to finally pass the full trade package he was looking for. we finally got that through the house. that's headed to the president's desk. look i think what today validates is the president's willingness to take on really tough issues. a lot of the pundits in washington, d.c. said i don't understand why the president is taking on health care reform in the midst of this challenging economy and a lot of people were skeptical that democrats and republicans would come together to advance trade legislation. because of the president's determination, both of those
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things happened and both of those things in the mind of the president will be important for the future of middle class families. >> the president says he wants to improve the affordable care act, make some changes, work with republicans. is that realistic? >> wolf it will be realistic if republicans abandon the strategy they've pursued for the last five years, which is that several dozen times republicans in the congress have voted to repeal to undermine take away weaken obamacare. the fact is if republicans are willing to work in genuine any bipartisan fashion to try to strengthen the law, the president would eager to work with democrats or republicans who have ideas on how to do that. that's not what we've seen from congress. instead what we've seen is a repeated partisan political effort to dismantle the signature domestic policy achievement even though it has important benefits for millions of americans all across the country. >> millions of american have benefited. other millions of americans say the cost of their health care has gone up because of the
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affordable care act. to them what do you say? >> i say since the affordable care act went into effect the growth in health care costs is lower than it's been in our nation's history. before the affordable care act went into effect it was commonplace for it to skyrocket, increase by double digits. if an insurance company has to raise their rates by double digits now they have to file papers with state regulators and try to justify exactly why they want to raise rates. there are a variety of mechanisms in place holding down the growth in health care costs. that's having real benefits for middle class families across the country, real benefits for small business owners across the country and it turns out to be good for the fiscal situation for the united states government. so the irony is if you really are concerned about deficits in this country and trying to get our fiscal situation under control, that should make you a strong advocate of the affordable care act because it's having that effect on the government's budget. >> as you know the u.s. supreme
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court could rule as early as tomorrow morning on same-sex marriage in effect validating same-sex marriage not only those states that approve of it right now, but all over the country. how optimistic are you that the court will rule in favor of gay marriage? >> wolf we believe in the power of the arguments of those who believe people should not be discriminated against because of who they love. and the fact is the president has made his views on this made known pretty clearly. i think what's really fascinating about this is this is an issue where we have seen rapid change all across the country, and the country is waiting to see if the supreme court has changed, too and we should find that out in the next few days. >> we could find that out as early as tomorrow morning. as you know, the deadline for the iran nuclear deal is june 30th although it could slip by a few days. are you optimistic there will be a deal? >> wolf that's a tough one. our negotiators have been hard at work for the last several weeks in vienna. tomorrow secretary kerry and
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secretary moniz are prepared to fly to vienna to begin the high-level negotiations required to try to move this deal across the finish line. the fact is, there are tough issues they have to work through. i think it still remains to be seen about whether they'll succeed. the president will only accept an agreement that will shut down every pathway iran has to developing a nuclear program. it will seek a commitment for iran to cooperate with the most intrusive set of inspections ever imposed. that will be required for an agreement. iran agreed to all of this in principle in april. the question is if they'll lock in the details here at the end of june. that's the open question now. if iran is not willing to live up to those commitments, we won't be able to get a deal. if iran will verify in a verifiable way, we could get a really important agreement. >> josh earnest, thanks for joining us. as the hunt for two escaped killers reaches its 20th day, a
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gene palmer faces three felony counts. let's go to brian todd with the latest details on this obviously very disturbing development. >> wolf just moments ago, this officer's attorney gene palmer's attorney andrew brockway resigned from the case. he said he's a small-time lawyer who simply doesn't have the resources to handle this case. the new attorney identified as william dwyer didn't immediately return our calls. tonight we have new details on how at least one inmate referred to this corrections officer and on what he told investigators in a police interview. >> clinton correctional officer gene palmer begins his legal fight. palmer faces charges of promoting prison contraband misconduct and tampering with physical evidence relating to the escape of killers richard matt and david sweat. palmer is expected to plead not guilty. according to court don'ts palmer said he didn't intentionally help matt and sweat, that matt provided him with information on crimes committed by other inmates and gave him paintings
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which palmer is now accused of destroying. in exchange pam her said he gave rich chart matt paint, paint brushes and the infamous hamburger meat. in a police interview palmer said he gave david sweat a needle nose pliers to work on the catwalk. he said he supervised their work and took the tools back. he and fellow prison employee joyce mitchell could face more trouble. >> the worst case scenario is they both get charged with conspiracy to break out of prison to help these two individuals break out. if these two people convicts that are on the lamb commit further crimes say they murder someone, kidnap someone, rape somebody then i think there will be severe punishment for both ms. mitchell and him. >> reporter: palmer's former attorney said he didn't know the hamburger meat he carried to at least one of the inmates had tools in it. >> he was continued by joyce mitchell. she duped him. looking back on that he can't
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believe someone would take advantage of him. he knows he made a mistake and shouldn't have done what he did, but i think at the end of the day he's a man of integrity. he admits he made a mistake and he's willing to do whatever he can to make it right. responding to the comment that joyce mitchell conned palmer into giving the inmates the hamburger meat. his attorney says it's hard to believe she could tup an experienced officer who matt referred to as his boy. palmer's side didn't respond to that. in an interview with north country radio 15 years ago, gene palmer described working as a corrections officer as a, quote negative environment. with the money they pay you, you'll go balled, have high blood pressure you'll become an alcoholic, divorce and kill yourself. >> one said that could be something palmer might want to use in his defense, citing the stress of the job. the new york state department of corrections would not comment. >> you're also hearing from experts this is likely to go
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beyond joyce mitchell and this corrections officer gene palmer right? >> that's right. a former warden and criminal defense attorney both told us they believe there is no way it could have only been joyce mitchell and gene palmer helping these inmates escape. they say the trustees of the prison should be investigated. the trustees are the inmates allowed to roam freely, good behavior allowed to work with tools, work with contractors. when we asked if the trustees at clinton are being investigated in this case neither the prosecutor or the department of corrections would comment. >> brian todd, thanks very much. they arrest hundreds of fugitives every year we're talking about u.s. marshals. responsible for protecting judges operating the witness security program. let's discuss with the director of the u.s. marshal service, stays yeah. thanks for coming in. >> thanks for having me. >> what's the role of the u.s. marbles? >> a long relationship with the
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new york state troopers. they've done an exceptional job in inviting us in right from the beginning because they're bringing the bear all law enforcement. >> you've decision patched marshals to help with the search? >> that's correct. >> what are you hearing, what's going on? >> you're seeing it unfold over the last couple weeks. long hours, working with everyone they've done a fantastic job. what we're seeing as a result of their investigation, we're watching pieces unfold and everyone is chasing down leads, both domestically and globally. >> it's day 20. >> reporter: these guys these two killers are still on the loose. they might be armed right now. this is an extremely dangerous six. >> of course the nature of their crimes you saw us put them on the 15 most wanted. we take the worst of the worst and put them on our top fifteens because we want to bring to bear all those assets. the very nature of the crimes
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this is something that law enforcement entirely across the board want to get these guys off the street. >> you think these two guys are still in the general vicinity -- only about 20 miles or so from the canadian border. >> in general in all these cases there's no set pattern for this. what you want to do is lock downey perimeter on these cases, but chase down every lead. in this country, outside this country. really there are hundreds of leads coming in. >> is it the working assumption these two killers are together or they've split up? >> in general, they'll do whatever they that works for their advantage. they'll look for opportunities, seek opportunities, take advantage of situations. >> stays yeah hilton i want you to stand by. we have much more to discuss. you're bringing new information to us. much more with the director of the u.s. marshals when we come back. we choose to carve our o ath, in the pursuit of exhilaration. the 306 horsepower lexus gs.
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day 20 in the hunt fourfor the two escaped killers. a prison guard facing serious charges relating to the escape and a second guard facing charges. we're back with the director of the u.s. marshal service stacia hylton. you believe other prison guards may be involved as well? >> i don't want to speak to specifics of the investigation. generally you'll go all out on this look everywhere and exhaust every single possibility possibility. each piece will bring new information. >> it doesn't look to me as if the stuff that was snuck in in
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the pros n hamburger meat hacksaw and chisel could that get through concrete could that get through steel? >> it's interesting, when these guys get to a point where they're planning an escape, you will be unbelievable what they can get accomplished with what. every time you look at any escape situation and you're on site at the point of where the escape took place, sometimes you're amazed what they can accomplish. the perseverance of an individual a hardened criminal trying to get out of an institution, they will take all kinds of risks. >> it looks to me based on what i'm hearing, this so-called maximum security prison the clinton correctional facility in upstate new york they seem to have run it almost like some sort of frat house or college campus or summer camp if you will the way these two convicted killers, they were in this honor lock. they could run around. they could eat, walk around. basically were doing a lot of stuff that i didn't netsly think convicted killers would be able to do in a maximum security prison? >> i've not been to this prison
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so i can't really speak to this prison. in general, i will tell you in the world of corrections it's hard to find the fine balance between civil liberties and detention. we have an image from the public of what we expect. i have not seen this prison. i can't comment. >> civil liberties, con viced murderers, they have civil liberties if you will? >> we do live in the united states of america. >> even though they're convicted to life in prison they're going to have civil liberties, is that what you're saying? >> all our corrections systems -- >> civil liberties to be able to gout and fratd niez with a final mall prison guard is that a civil liberty? >> in general, not speaking the this investigation. i don't know what came about in this specific investigation. what i'm talking about is the environment in which they live in, the access that i have to law libraries the access they have to food. >> i understand you have to feed them in a humane way. i don't think you have to let them roam around almost freely inside those walls.
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>> but the other takes place in the regulatory system prisons have inspections, protocol we have to follow. as a nation we detain at least 1.5 million prisoners at any time. while we see this instance and will be concerned about it, you have to remember how many are detained every way in a safe and secure way. >> i guess the thing that bothers me the most is convicted murderers are allowed to be in what they call the honor block. doesn't that bother you? >> i think for me i'd rather wait until i get all the facts out to comment on that. i think you can appreciate that. my focus right now is giving the new york state troopers everything they need for the 3457b hunt. for us to bring to bear our fugitive investigator skills both ground and air assets so we can hunt these guys down. that piece takes place in a different venue outside the marshall marchshal's service. >> when we refer to the cost
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associated with this, is this anything that's too high a cost to get these guys off the street? public safety does haven't a price tag. at the end of the day, we exert all efforts because we have to apprehend those individuals. that's our number one priority. >> the u.s. marshal service i know you're working hard. we hope you find these two guys. let's say you do find them where do you put them? >> at this point they come back in the court system. there will be an investigation surrounding the entire escape and they'll make the right decision. this escape like it is in every situation in corrections, these individuals get classified so they may get classified differently based on the escape and they'll be handled differently. >> assuming they're found alive, they won't be sent back to this clinton correctional facility right? >> i can't speak to what new york would do. >> would they be technically eligible to go to the super max prison in colorado that the federal government runs sm. >> depends on what they'll be charged with. they will be apprehended. iet ace matter of time. if they're charged federally, they'll be put in security all their behavior surrounding their escape will be assessed, cla classified and success.
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>> stays yeahcia hylton, with the u.s. marshal service for over 30 years. thank you for your service. >> thank you. amid stepped up efforts to remove fon fedconfederate flags, a wake for the pastor of emanuel ame, the church where he was murdered. a cnn exclusive. donald trump is on the rise among republican voters in new hampshire, our brand new poll results, we'll show you why. stay with us. vo: today's the day. more and more people with type 2 diabetes are learning about long-acting levemir®. as my diabetes changed it got harder to control my blood sugar. today, i'm asking about levemir®. vo: levemir® is an injectable insulin
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of the nine charleston massacre victims. ethel lance was enjoying retirement. sharonda coleman singleton was a speech therapist and high school track coach. meantime there are stepped up efforts across the south, indeed across the country to remove the confederate flag from official display. joining us now, democratic congresswoman terry sulo of alabama. she calls the flag a symbol of hate not heritage. thanks for coming in. >> absolutely. >> governor bentley decided to remove some of those confederate
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flags from official premises in the state of alabama, your home state of alabama. he's a republican. were you surprised he decided to do this? >> no, not really. i applaud governor bentley for removing the flags even without being prompted. but having said that i think that, if we are to change racial behavior we have to change policies. and so i urge my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to do meaningful changes like voting rights restoration, sentencing reform criminal justice reform. while i'm very happy that my governor chose to remove from the grounds the confederate flag that's but a symbol. we really need action i think. >> in alabama he had the authority to do that on his own didn't have to wait for state legislature to do it which is a different situation in south carolina. he also said this it was a pretty eye opening quote. he said the confederate battle flag this is governor bentley, is offensive to some people because unfortunately it's like
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the swastika. some people have adopted that as part of their hate-filled groups. swastika that's a tough comparison. >> it is. i think he's right. the symbol of the confederate flag has always been one that was about fighting against slavery or -- fighting for slavery and not necessarily trying to abolish it. it's always been a symbol of white supremacy. kudos for my governor for saying that. i do hope my governor will work with me to expand medicaid and other things that i think will change behavior which is what we ultimately want. >> you're originally from selma, alabama. >> i am. >> that's your hometown. >> on the 51st commemoration of the birmingham baptist church bombing, four little girls were brutally killed you said this when our brothers and sisters of color suffer from some of the same injustices suffered 50 years ago, we cannot ignore that their work has now become our work. how do you move on beyond the
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symbolism of the confederate flag and take some of these other steps? you're going to have to work with republicans, democrats, get the country going. what do you need to do? >> wolf today is actually the second anniversary of the shelby case. voting rights started in selma and is actually underlined by the shelby case. i, along with senator leahy have introduced a bill to restore the voting rights pre clearance protections, called the voter advancement act. i really hope we can galvanize meaningful legislation to change behavior. we can start by protecting everyone's right to vote. >> you're going to go tomorrow, the president, first lady vice president, you're all going to go to the funeral of reverend pinckney the president delivering the eulogy. we'll have live coverage. all nine of these people who were massacred in that horrific attack what wonderful people as we're now getting to know them even more. what would you like to hear from
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the president? >> well i'm sure the president will respectfully mourn those who lost their lives way too short. i think he'll also make a comparison to the fact that churches -- african-american churches have always been under attack. it's erie that we can celebrate or commemorate the four little girls losing their lives in birmingham just three years ago and to have this now. so i really hope the president will talk about meaningful actions that we can do to change behavior so that we're not always struggling with race relations. i know it's hard. i know it's hard fought. every generation has to be vigilant in its fight against racism. i think it starts with the home. we have to not only teach our children to love and not hate but we must also as elected officials try to produce policies that promote equality. >> you think the president has done enough? >> i think the president has done a lot, and i think he's truly inspirational when it
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comes to the fight for equality and justice, and i think he will deliver a speech like no other. >> i'm sure he'll deliver a wonderful speech tomorrow. representative terri sewell thanks for coming in. coming up breaking news we're following here in the situation room. a cnn exclusive, donald trump's reputation as a very successful business leader is indeed resonating with republican voters in new hampshire. stand by our brant new poll numbers are about to be released. for more than 30 million patients? or that our software helps over 20 million smartphone users remotely configure e-mail every month? or how about processing nearly $5 billion in electronic toll payments a year? in fact, today's xerox is working in surprising ways to help companies simplify the way work gets done and life gets lived. with xerox, you're ready for real business.
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let's get back to the breaking news we're following. look at this donald trump is clearly on the rise among republicans in new hampshire. our brand-new exclusive cnn/wmru poll shows the billionaire is second behind jeb bush in that first in the nation primary state. push at 16%, trump has 11%, the other candidates are in single digits. senator rand paul's in third place with 9%. let's dig deeper with our chief congressional correspondent dana bash. high numbers, impressive numbers for donald trump in new hampshire. >> i think the biggest factor is the economy and the fact that the vast majority compared to other republican candidates nobody gets a full majority compared to others, think that donald trump would do better on the economy. 29% say so. jeb bush is pretty far behind at 13%. and then it goes down from that.
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now, he's a billionaire so it's not that far-fetched for people to think a well-known billionaire who has amassed that much money for himself could do well for the country. the other thing that you cannot discount is the fact that he as reality tv star. based on the show which has been on for over a decade "the apprentice," on his prowess of handling business and the economy. there's no question that is a big factor in this. >> james carville once said, it's the economy, stupid. back in '92. if it's the economy, stupid that should help donald trump. not everyone looking at the numbers in this poll look at donald trump favorably. take a look at this. which republican candidate do you personally rule out among republicans as a nominee in 2016? 23% trump, 10% bush 10% christie cruz -- all the others barely rolled up. trump is pretty high there. >> very high. you have almost one-quarter of the republican electorate at least respondents in new
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hampshire, saying anybody but donald trump. that is not a gad sign. it really does tell you a lot about the feeling out there about donald trump. that a lot of people think he's interesting, a lot of people think that he would do well obviously in the economy and other issues like leadership. but there are also a lot of people who say, are you kidding me? no way. much more so for him than any of the other candidates. jeb bush chris christie are way below him on that 10% only say no way to those. >> one-quarter, that's a high hurdle for him to get over. we also asked in this new cnn/wmur poll, which research candidates can best handle immigration? rick perry, former governor of texas, 16%. bush and trump both at 13%. rubio 11%. >> let's keep that poll up and talk about it for a second. 16% for rick perry, let's give him his due. he leads the pack when it comes to immigration. probably because of the fact
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that he has been governor of texas until january and he dealt with a lot of immigration problems. however, the numbers for bush and trump, the fact that they are tied for 13%, is so telling wolf about the republican party. trump, who now famously or infamously talked about members cap rapists coming illegally, wanting to build a fence with mexico. him having one very serious slice of the republican party. and jeb bush who has a members condition-american wife and thinks very differently how you should reform the immigration process. that shows the very deep divide within the republican party that both can get an equal number of supporters on immigration. they're so so different in how to deal with the problem. >> in the next hour we have a brand-new exclusive cnn/wmur poll on the democratic race for the white house. our viewers will be interested in that as well. a quick note. donald trump will be jake tapper's guest this sunday on
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"state of the union." tune in and see the interview, 9:00 a.m. eastern. coming up u.s. supreme court may have saved obamacare. but republican presidential candidates they're vowing to get rid of the health care law. i'll talk with one of those republican presidential candidates the 2016 hopeful rick santorum, he's standing by live. a guard the second prison employee charged in the escape of two convicted killers. did he make their breakout easier?
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after multiple challenges to this law before the supreme court. the affordable care act is here to stay. >> supporters of the president's health care law are celebrating after a huge win at the u.s. supreme court. tonight, many republicans are refusing to accept defeat. i'll speak with the republican presidential candidate rick santorum. prison guard talks. cnn has spoken with the second person who now stands charged with helping two killers break free. here to tell you what we're learning about his alleged role in the escape. charleston mourns. the first funerals are held for the church shooting victims. another service is about to begin as the president prepares to head to the city to honor the dead. and threatening clinton. stand by for an exclusive surprising brand-new snapshot of the democratic presidential race. one challenger now gaining ground another front-runner in a key battleground state. we want to welcome our
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