a gas factory in southeastern france. joining us to discuss there, -- let's start with you. a gruesome detail here. the one victim we know of so far, decapitated. his head posted on the fence outside this factory. >> absolutely gruesome. one thing this points to in looking at what might be the organization that inspired this is it tilts the balance in favor of this being inspired or attached to the islamic state. if you look at the two major organization that is are inspirational in terrorist attacks in france the islamic state and al qaeda for jihadist terrorism. the islamic state is more brutal. the beheadings are a signature for the organization. for them this is a sign of strength. al qaeda, tends to be a bit more

reasonable for the target audience. they want to target themselves and come across as the more reasonable jihadist organization. again, relative to their particular audience and sympathizers. >> this appears to be a multilayer attack. this victim who doesn't seem to be related to the factory was beheaded then the two suspects tried to drive a car into the factory, presumably to set off a large explosion. what do you make of the multilayered attack here? >> you are right, it's been multilayered is evident that the attack is to maximize publicity. having a beheaded person is going to capture the media's attention. it seems they are trying to create a larger explosion than the small one that is went off. it is clear to me clearly, this is an attack for publicity more than anything else.

>> we keep saying there's two sus specks inside the car. it's murky. there is a suspect in custody and has been identified. he indicates there may have been a second person involved. the suspect in custody and identified. that is a new development since we last spoke. >> absolutely. the fact that he's been identified as an attacker is significant. often in cases such as this he is more prif reel to the plot. the other thing is as i mentioned basically every time you have a major terrorist incident you have a flood of information. a lot of it proves not to be accurate. we have the sketch of what has occurred. i expect some details will shift

as we learn information. >> to be clear, we are saying what we heard from france. the president of france, a reliable source and what they know. >> charlie, what can you tell me about this remotish area outside an industrial city. we were in paris after the "charlie hebdo" attack. are there possible terrorist recruits all over that country? >> well i think we need to be careful in terms of what words we use in dealing with this kind of thing. i mean there has been a lot of agitation through propaganda of course in terms of whether there are recruits all over the country, it would be a stretch of the reality. now, in terms of the target itself it is interesting that it was a factory that was targeted. there have been a number of

studies of terrorist attacks in europe and commercial installations are low on the targets. it's short to be very very high profile and maximize casualties. it seems this was a target of well an easy target. of course it wasn't easy but something that is more vulnerable to attack than something at the "charlie hebdo" office's in paris. that could be the security in france. itis not easy to hit towns and cities anymore. >> i wasn't suggesting there are tens of thousands of possible terrorists running all over france i was trying to get a sense of the geographic activists inside that country. can you give me a sense in the battle against recruits isis and in france and other

countries in europe as well. >> a development is europe is standing up designed to take isis recruiters and get them off social media. this is very interesting. one reason isis has been so good at mobilizing people to its cause is because of its mastery of social media. terrorism in general is a group affair. to get somebody to carry out a terrorist attack where they could lose their life, their odds are they would lose their freedom. it takes group dynamics to reinforce and not allow them to back out. social media is playing the role of this group. one big change over the course of 2015 is that twitter has been much more aggressive at kicking people off twitter. one reason -- when i sakicingy kicking people off, people associated with isis and jihad activity. facebook will remove profiles of

terrorist supporters. they have to be reported by someone else. specifically designed to go after these kind of profiles to stop this mobilization technique that isis has been so effective at. you have a lot of other kind of measures done by france on both the community engagement and deradicalization that has been implemented before and in the wake of "charlie hebdo." looking to social media makes a lot of sense in how useful that tool is. >> we did have pictures moments ago of the factory in southeastern france. suspects tried to drive a car with explosives through the gate of a chemical factory to set off a larger explosion. the french president calls this a terrorist attack and the most gruesome detail there was a victim outside the factory, someone who was decapitated,

beheaded and his head somehow posted on a fence outside the factory with a note in arabic writing. we'll have more on the developments. appreciate you being with us. other breaking news we are following today. a deadly sightseeing plane crash in alaska. the small plane a float plane slamming into a cliff. eight of them were cruise passengers on a voyage. miguel marquez is here with the details. >> so sad. this cruise ship left seattle saturday. some wanted to take a flight to see the area east of the kachikan. now a team is on the way and searchers are trying to get to the crash site. overnight, a horrible tragedy. a plane crashes into a cliff killing all nine on board, including the pilot.

a sea plane was found against a granite rock cliff face 800 feet above a lake. the eight passengers on board, guests of the ms westerdam a cruise line ship that left seattle saturday for a seven-day round trip cruise. the flight was a shore excursion sold through the company. >> everyone on board is sad right now. we never like to hear news like that. >> reporter: the names of the victims with held until their family members are notified. this faa image captured around the time of the crash highlights the stormy conditions. the same weather now trying to recover the bodies in the terrain. >> a lot of ground to cover. they have their job cut out for them. >> reporter: looking to resume the efforts today. they have a long history in this area. 30 years they have been flying.

a pretty good record in terms of safety. there was an incident in 2005 where the hd 3 caught fire it landed safely. they said maintenance was one of the issues with that crash. >> not what you think about when grow on vacation on an alaskan cruise. meantime we want to go to south carolina where alisyn is. >> reporter: i am in charleston. clementa pinckney is the beloved pastor of the church behind me. he was one of nine killed in the massacre here. new details here this morning about the gunman and what he was planning. we want to bring in cnns victor blackwell. he joins us with the developments. what have we learned?

>> dylann roof wanted a more powerful gun. a police report from march 13th an off duty police officer who busted roof on drug possession charges weeks prior spotted roof sitting in a car in a park. he was wearing all black and was alone. this officer was off duty so-called in another officer who questioned roof. roof had, in the back of a vehicle, part of an ar-15 and six 40-round magazines. if you have been following the news you know an ar-15 is used in mass shootings. when questioned roof said he wanted to buy an ar-15 but didn't have enough money. he wanted to take it to a shooting range. roof was released that day. when you consider the damage that was done t attack killing nine people using a .45 caliber glock handgun and we know about the ar-15, i think it's best

said that we ought to be thankful roof did not get his hands on that ar-15. >> it makes you sick to think about the possibilities if he had. victor thank you so much. it's an active scene. you can see behind us people of the church are gathering here. we are four hours away from the funeral. many did not want to risk not getting a seat. seating will be limited and they wanted to be here. yesterday was an emotional scene. it was pastor pinckney's viewing. hundreds of people were in line. it stretched around the church and around the block. there was a men's church group singing outside a gospel hymn which lent and uplifting mood. maybe we can play a few moments. listen to this. ♪ on the battlefield for my lord

lord ♪ >> somehow those words, those words they are on the battlefield for their lord showing their faith is still strong and they are fighting through this. we met one family in line here who had driven 12 hours from mississippi. they felt called to be here even though they didn't know the pastor. they didn't know people at this church. they felt they wanted to come and the mom told us she wanted her sons they were about 20 years old, maybe younger, to experience this moment and to be a part of this moment in history for what they could learn here. at this hour this very tight knit community is preparing for president obama and the first lady also vice president biden and speaker john boehner will speak. they will all arrive in a matter of hours. we expect another emotional morning here and we will bring you all the developments as we get them. back to new york. >> we appreciate you helping us

feel what you are feeling there on the ground. this is a powerful emotional day. we know there's so much connection between all the people of charleston on this very special and important day. we are going to give you other headlines right now. the second prison worker charged in connection with the two escaped convicts in new york state admitted he provided tools and other items that unintentionally made their escape easier. this as state inspectors take a closer look at the security protocols at that prison. we are live with the latest. there's a series of security lapses happening there. >> reporter: that is right. good morning, michaela. a dozen state inspectors are at the state facility reviewing protocols and policies that made it easier for the men to escape. investigators are looking at a series of allegations by gene palmer. he said he made deals with the inmates, receiving paintings and

information from them in exchange for a number of things paint, paint brushes, information the inmates wanted including the movement of other inmates and hamburger meat. access to the electrical boxes. sources telling cnn those exchanges between guards and inmates were common at the prison. one more note gene palmer has not spoken out publicly since they escaped. he did a public radio interview in 2000 talking about the psychological ramifications of working in a prison. listen to what he said. >> with the money they pay you, you go bald high blood pressure become an alcoholic, divorce and then kill yourself. it's a negative environment. >> reporter: palmer spent 27 years working there. the experience hardened him.

he is looking for a new attorney and due in court on monday. a big victory at the supreme court. health care subsidies for low and middle income americans are valid, even in state that is don't have their insurance exchanges. republican opponents will keep trying to get obamacare appealed. today, another decision day at supreme court with four cases, including whether gay marriage is a constitutional right on the docket. secretary of state kerry heading to vienna. tuesday's deadline to reach a nuclear deal. even if sanctions are lifted, sanctions related to human rights abuses will remain in place after a new report slammed tehran for cruel treatment of citizens. cameras rolling as famed

musician chris angel jumped to rescue an escape artist trapped inside a water filled box on stage. do not try this at home. after the escape from the supernaturalist show that opens tonight. thankfully he is alive and well this morning. it is unclear if he will join him for his show. >> he's got talent and lucky. >> how frightening. we are following breaking news on the terror attack. president obama has been raked more on that coming up. let's head to alisyn in south carolina. >> the south carolina church massacre here at the church behind me is spurring a lot of soul searching on race relations in the united states. will this lead to actual change? we'll explore that, coming up.

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a few hours from now, president obama will deliver the eulogy here for pastor clementa pinckney one of the nine victims gunned down at the historic black church behind me. the vicious attack may be classified as a hate crime by the department of justice. some say that's not enough. what happens after this funeral? what happens next? we want to talk about that with

van jones as well as john a former director of the department of economic development here in charleston. great to see both of you this morning. thanks for being here. >> good morning. >> before we talk about what is next let's talk about the eulogy. what do you want to hear? >> people don't understand the emotional roller coaster the community is on. people want to talk about forgiveness. the process is deep grieving, a lot of anger and pain. people come out with the forgiveness, but the president needs to help people get through the pain and how much hurting is going on and why we have to deal with the racial injustice as well as poverty. >> john you are in a perfect position to do that. you are running for mayor. it feels to me as an outsider you have reached a tipping point. there's a real grief and real

energy. something has to happen positive out of this. where do you start? >> that's right. there's a lot of work to be done. we do mourn this incredible loss but there's hope and joy we can make charleston and south carolina a better place and be a model to the world, not only in the way we have come together in unity in hope and love in the last week but in the way we deal with solving disparities going forward. disparities in education and economic opportunity. we are going to work on those problems here in charleston and south carolina. >> let me put up illustrations of that disparity. in south carolina the poverty rate these are the latest numbers from 2013. for white's, 13%, blacks almost 30%. the south carolina per capita income white, 28,000 for black, 15,300.

south carolina unemployment rate white 5.3% black, almost 10%. van, there are issues here beyond the confederate flag that's gotten so much attention. >> it has gotten a lot of attention, i think understandably so. first of all, people have to understand the whole region not just south carolina but the south overall is lagging. it's been lagging overall. segregation, two schools, two neighborhoods, two -- when you divide everything by two, you have less of everything. you are recovering from the segregation. you don't have the technology sector. a lot is holding the region back then you have the added overlay of the long term still present with us racial pain of the region. put it together and it requires leadership. it could bring us together. we are going to have to come together to solve the problems.

>> charleston is a gem, it is a gem of a city and the beacon of south carolina. what has gone right here? >> we have great elements for economic infrastructure here including the poor. mostly our people are incredible people. we are doing well in charleston with high-technology and technology based businesses and attracting industry including boeing and volvo is coming here. we want to see the whole state enjoy that future. we have to address these disparities. i believe it really comes first to our education system. there's been a disparity in learning and funding in this state and our state legislature really needs to deal with that. >> as mayor, could you do anything about that? >> we could. there's a lot of leadership that needs to be done locally to focus on those schools and we have some here in the city of charleston that have learning

disparity both on income and race per amarameters. we need to focus on the schools and make them better. >> pastor pinckney walked the walk. i feel like i know him even though i never met him. i have been here a week. he was from a different cloth. everyone talks about him, it's not exaggeration. there was a men's group, who were singing out here last night outside his viewing. they were saying we are on the battlefield of the lord. there was a men's group that came together to be role models. here they are singing and to support other men and to show them the way. it was a powerful moment. >> part of the thing to keep in mind is so many tragedies happen at one time. you have the desecration of a holy sacred site and one of the most famous churches in the black community. you have the murder of nine

people which also is the assassination of a political leader. this church was not picked at random he was not picked at random. that's one of the reasons why when people say hate crime, this is an act of terrorism. you are going after a political site a political leader trying to intimidate a community. when you say hate crime, it's not enough. it was an act of racial terror against a community that's been suffering from those kind of acts of violence for too many decades and centuries. >> how do you define the state of race relations here? what we see in these long lines are neighbors. neighbors comforting each other and sharing bottles of water. it can't be all just kumbaya. what's going on with race here? >> south carolina and charleston has been steep in racism for centuries. it is part of our heritage. even though the civil rights

removed many parts of racism there's that inherent racism that exists in how economic opportunities and so forth. reverend pinckney was an incredible man of god. i met him 20 years ago. he was the kind of man that lived the word. and he extended that to his congregation. even though we have had this tragedy, the most beautiful thing was the families of the victims calling for the assailants mercy and forgiveness. that's just the kind of thing that reverend pinckney taught his congregation. it's beautiful. it's an opportunity for us not only to continue a dialogue to bridge racial divide and come together going forward. >> there is an opportunity. thank you for being with us on

"new day." let's go back to new york and michaela. >> wonderful conversation on this important day in charleston. we are following breaking news a terror attack on a factory in france. one person is dead. we are going to give you a live report in a few moments. big week for president obama. perhaps more done in the last few days to shape his legacy than any week in recent memory. today will be another big part of it. an emotional eulogy for a fallen pastor in charleston south carolina. john king has that and more "inside politics." ♪ mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys ♪ ♪ don't let'em pick guitars and drive them old trucks ♪ boys? ♪ mamas, don't let your babies...♪ stop less. go more. the passat tdi clean diesel with up to 814 hwy miles per tank. hurry in and you can get 0% apr plus a one-thousand dollar volkswagen credit bonus on 2015 passat

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back to our breaking news. the terror attack at a gas factory in southeast france near leon. president hollande confirming a severed head was found near an islamic flag. a terrorist is in custody. they are being investigated for

radicalization. other accomplices are in custody and president obama has been briefed. jim bittermann is tracking the latest for us live from paris. jim, what can you tell us? >> reporter: well one of the reasons president obama may have been alerted is this is an american company. it is based in pennsylvania was attacked around 10:00 local time. one man, apparently only one man drove in a car at high speed, crashed through the gates. there was an explosion. there were no secondary explosions but may have been a fire. the most chilling detail is that the police found a decapitated body nearby with a head attached to the fence of the factory along with an islamist flag and another flag with arabic writing. all the suggestions of terrorism. both the president and the interior minister in france confirmed that.

the interior minister was on television a minute ago and gave more details about the perpetrator. he identified him. he said he was from the leon area. reports saying he's about 30 years old. what is interesting is that it kind of points to the difficulty in tracking individuals like this. he was under surveillance from 2006 to 2008 by the interior minister and police and dropped after 2008 because he had not shown any kind of radicalization or radical tendencies and so was not under investigation. now, it's a kind of thing that would give investigators a headache to see someone they had been basically out of the picture for now seven years and then all of a sudden springs into action. the police were tracking him before but they had not been tracking him up to today. >> not dissimilar to the

brothers who staged the attack at "charlie hebdo." thanks very much. let's get "inside politics" with john king. >> we'll go back with you if there's breaking news out of france or elsewhere. help me with what we can say is a defining week a big week in the obama presidency. he was pushed aside for the presidential campaign. he used the "n" word in a podcast in how the country needs a bigger investigation in race. he's fearless. he's better at his job. he had two huge victories. lost a vote on trade, then revised it. he gets a win on trade. then yesterday, the supreme court says the subsidies in obamacare are constitutional and the president celebrates. >> five years in this is no longer about a law. this is not about the affordable

care act, as legislation or obamacare as a political football. this is health care in america. >> this is health care in america. today, i should note we have been talking this morning, he'll be in charleston to give the eulogy to senator pinckney. we will see if he decides to add policy things he talked about like revisiting. >> i think we are seeing you know in the fourth quarter of the obama presidency. you see a legacy come into view with things like health care. on trade, he puts it in the legacy category. the republicans did a lot of heavy lifting. there aren't a lot of those in sight for him. i don't think we can look down the road and see a lot of momentum continuing in a concrete way on priority. the confederate flag coming down across the south, there's a

sense of maybe moving into a new era on the racial strife. this is something obama would like to be part of his legacy. >> with the supreme court and health care that is set in stone. what does it mean going forward for the next year and a half? probably not much in terms of legislation. no a big discussion on gun control. no action on gun control. you have to give him, without question this health care was so controversial. a lot of people said it wouldn't happen. now, it is cemented in stone. >> he probably can't get much done legislatively. can he use the bully pulpit when you have conflict in both presidential fields can he be a figure that is messy? to that point, let's move on. a poll out of the state of new hampshire. a guy named donald trump is in second place. people laughed and dismissed

him. jeb bush at 16 trump at 11. if you look deeper spoo the poll why? they give him the highest marks on handling the economy among republicans. this is the key point. they are disgusted with politics. which candidate is not a politician nearly half say it is trump. they don't trust, they don't believe the politicians of their own party. is this a flash of panic or real? >> i think what we are seeing is in a republican field that is so fractured and poorly differentiated trump has a clear brand. a lot of other candidates don't. a lot of others, it's a mismatch of where they are on policy and what is their thing. trump, you know what their thing is. that small core of republicans who like that who like that brashness and that you know ability to sort of tell people off and be brusque. you know it's very much a

protest vote against the political season. a guy that is clear. >> donald trump is none of the above. >> he's the bull in the china shop. he calls people losers. >> is that what we need? >> maybe people think it is. let's move on to the democratic race. this is interesting, as well. hillary clinton was supposed to be it. she's it. bernie sanders and martin o'malley was going to have fun. clinton 43 and sanders 35. that's something. people think she's more experienced. they think she would be the stronger general election cant. where bill clinton won is the empathy thing, i feel your pain. hillary clinton, sanders beats her by 11 points. which cares most about you, sanders by 20 points. >> overall, what is happening in this poll is the elizabeth warren factor with sanders.

the last new hampshire poll has elizabeth warren in it. he is consolidating the left of that. how they are going to tackle this is the most interesting. are they going to go after bernie sanders, no they are not. she is going to go after the republicans to remind democrats she is a fighter. bernie sanders is the candidate of the summer. will he be the candidate of the fall and next year? he had a lot of support. >> the democrats, without a doubt, they like her. they think she is a substantial figure. they love her. >> in the poll 75% still have favorable feelings for hillary clinton. it's not the case there's this antagonism for hillary. it's that democrats heads may be with hillary, but their heart is with sanders who can articulate. the issue he's winning on is the

corporations and the rich. hillary is not doing that. she is not going after corporations and the rich. there's a feeling on behalf of the democratic base that she's a little too cozy. >> michaela we get back to you in new york and we'll keep an eye on this. we are going to watch charleston today, the president and the republican leadership as well. it will be an interesting day to see the president's remarks as they file out of the church. >> this is the moment we see him come alive. we'll see examples of that today. all the nation is with charleston. let me promote your show. >> i'll take it. >> watch john king break down the very best in political news every week that is sunday every week at 8:30 eastern. also another story we are

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we have big questions developing in the escape of two killers. how did prison guard gene palmer form relationships with them in the first place? joining us is ed gavin. thank you for being with us. >> the pleasure is mine. >> this prison guard provided a screwdriver and tools for them to fix a circuit box in the cat walk behind the cells. he took them to the cat walk behind the cells. he was provided with artwork from these prisoners. i don't know if i'm naive or not, but this sounds bonkers to me that a prison guard would give a screwdriver, among other things to convicted killers. >> i agree. i said on the anderson cooper

show he might as well of handed them a shank. we try to control contraband not provide it. >> it's not happening all the time and we don't know about it? this is highly unusual? >> i think it is. i would like to talk for a minute about the control and search for contraband and the security protocols brought up earlier in the broadcast. i don't think they were following the protocols. the commissioner of corrections, i want to refer to security inspections inspections, page 11. it directs the corrections officers conduct regular inspections of locks, mechanisms and lights. the superintendent shall ensure this is being done at least once a week. >> whatever gene palmer was doing, there should have been someone above him who was inspecting his work or looking through these cells, going into the cat walks and taking a closer look? >> absolutely. there were redundancies built

into the system. the searches should be conducted and time varied not to establish a predictable pattern. >> they knew when to put the dumbies in the beds so they would be there to begin with. if you are investigators, gene palmer is not out on bail. what would you ask him? >> when was the last time you, gene palmer 27 year vet, steady honor block officer, when was the last time that you conducted a thorough detailed search of the cells inhabited by inmate sweat and matt? in my opinion, in one correction officer, just one, in the last 12 weeks did one thorough search i'm sure they would have detected the breach in the vent and foiled that escape. common sense isn't very common.

my father taught me that and he is right. >> there was a number of art dealing going on where art was being given to the prison guards or at least given to gene palmer. is that unusual or suspicious to you? >> absolutely. it seems inmate matt is painting surreal impressions. this whole thing is surreal. >> why is it a bad idea for a guard to get pieces of art from a convict? >> corrections officers and inmates, they are not allowed to have a degree of familiarity. that's undue familiarity. you can't become a friend of the inmate. the up mate's job is to escape. that's what they are there for. the officer's job is care custody, control, supervision. it's that simple. it's basic stuff. you know if mr. palmer did his job in the first place, he never would have allowed that contraband into the facility.

the frozen chopped meat with the hacksaw blades. i would have taken that. if a civilian worker gave that to me i would have taken it ran it throw the metal detector and arrested her. it's that simple. >> there's the contraband smuggled in. he says he didn't know the hacksaw blade was in there. had protocol been followed it wouldn't have gotten in. >> it's that simple on the part of the seamstress joyce, and the officer. >> again, thanks so much for being with us. >> the pleasure is all mine. >> michaela. >> more updates on the terror attack. details emerging. the terror attack in france just near leon we'll have details. stay with us. you probably know xerox as the company that's all about printing. but did you know we also support hospitals using electronic health records for more than 30 million patients? or that our software helps over 20 million smartphone users remotely

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. good morning everyone. welcome to your "new day." i'm coming to you live from charleston south carolina. michaela and john berman are in new york. the pastor clementa pinckney of the mother emanuel church that you see behind me will be laid to rest today. this community is preparing for the arrival of president obama to deliver the eulogy. we want to get back to new york because we do have breaking news this morning. >> a terrorist attack is our breaking news at a factory in southeastern france near lyon. gruesome deeds aretails are emerging.

one man has been beheaded. several others have been injured. the prime suspect is in custody while the interior minister says that man is being investigated for possible radicalization. over accomplices have been detained. we know that president obama has been briefed following revelations that that factory is run by an american company out of pennsylvania called air products. >> new developments all morning long in this attack just a few hours old now. cnn's jim bitterman following this for us. good morning, jim. >> reporter: this is going to be a subject of much concern here all throughout the day today. the president is rushing back from brussels. there will be a meeting with the interior minister prime minister and the president talking about what further needs to be done here. the most information we've got both from the president and the

interior minister interior minister saying just a short while ago that the suspect has been identified. he's believed to be in his 30s, from the lyon area, about 20 miles away from where this attack took place. the lyon area has been a hotbed for radicalization. he was under surveillance from 2006 to 2008 for possible radicalization. but in 2008 after no signs of further trouble from this young man, he was dropped from the surveillance rolls. and there was no indication he was with any radical groups until this morning, of course. >> president obama we know has been briefed on this terror attack. so the president has been made