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loves them and opens his arms to everybody. >> will you be marrying gay couples? >> that, i won't do because that violates the skreupchures, and i met with governor o'malley right before it went legal in maryland, and i said, just make sure that i am protected, and that religious freedoms are protected and he did, so i am okay with that. >> we are hearing from some that oppose this vehemently, and so many support it, too, and some that oppose it are pushing for the only thing that could change it state by state, which is a constitutional amendment to put the power back in the state's hands. are you somebody that wants to see that, or are you saying this is the law of the land now and i am not agreeing with it. >> because there is a difference between morality and legality, i wouldn't say let's legislation morality. guess what, you used to have to kill people because of adultery
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or because of other moral behaviors that you didn't agree with. we don't do that today. my goal is not to stop anybody who disagrees with my biblical views to not be able to enjoy the life they want to live in a secular country. this is not a christian nation. it's a secular nation, right? so people who are atheist and from different relations and people who are from my same faith but don't believe what i believe, they should be able to live freely just like me, and that's what makes america beautiful, right? >> that w >>. coming up next, he has been in the willerness on the run in upstate new york for 22 days. david sweat trying to evade police, desperate now, and how long can he keep this up? next we will talk to a survivalist about what it really takes to survive in the thick
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police in upstate new york are hopeful they have contained david sweat near the canadian border but they admit they do not have eyes on him and their dogs have not picked up his scent at all. meantime, the body of fellow escapie matt has been taken for an autopsy after he was killed. he was shot by a border patrol
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team and that means sweat is out there alone in the wilderness with 1,200 officers trying to find him. joining me by phone, survivalist, shane hovel. you teach people to survive in the wilderness with tough conditions, and assuming he is in that area in upstate new york in the adirondacks, what could he do to evade police? >> we are talking about an area filled with nooks and crannies. it's easy for any of these patrolmen to walk by anybody hiding in the bushes there and there are outcroppings in low-lying areas, areas that you can climb under. this guy is at such a desperate place. we have to understand in a normal survival situation, you
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are looking to make shelter and fire, and so these are obvious things and clearly he is not doing that. the most desperate thing he needs to do now is basically evade the police at all costs. he's desperate. >> how long can somebody go without food or water, assuming he is operating under that scenario? >> you know, there is an old saying, three minutes without air, three days without water, and three weeks without food. you know, he has been keeping a high tempo pace that is filled with the adrenaline rush and it has been going on for many, many days. this is exhausting. he is probably not dressed properly or resting properly, and he is deteriorating on all angles here. >> you pointed out thermal imaging, which is one of the technologies from some of the planes flying overhead, thermal imaging is not a perfect
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technology. what do you mean? it's not very effective in something like this? >> as the authorities reported before, there is an admittance to all of these technologies having a fault, if somebody is underneath a roof line it's hard to pick up an image through a roof or building, and that is the same occurrence under rocks, it's a cold environment and if that individual is inside a rock alcove, it's going to be difficult to read with thermal imaging. >> no kidding. it's unbelievable how he has been able to evade police. does it surprise you how long these guys were able to go without one of them being spotted until yesterday? >> you know, i have to say it's quite surprising, but i also understand the environment by which they are moving through.
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it's thick. the police have had a tremendous job up there. they have been doing a rock-solid job cornering off all the little exits, and really moving tighter on to the area so i have to hand it to them for holding up that pressure, due diligence, and that's what is keeping the pressure on. he is running out of options and out of territory. >> thank you very much for being with us. appreciate, sir. >> you are welcome. three horrifying terror attacks in a single day. also, just days ahead of the fourth of july holiday a. new warning to the united states. we will bring you the details next. ♪ a good host, is a good host no matter where he's hosting. ♪ an hors d'oeuvre for the table? ♪
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in three different countries, lingering shock and fear after three separate deadly terrorists attacks on friday. a suicide bomb in kuwait city, and a mass shooting on a beach resort in tunisia, and explosion and beheading at an american-owned factory in eastern france, and the man
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accused of that has been arrested. >> the public prosecutors told us the suspect remains in custody but is not answering any of their questions, and meanwhile the investigation is continuing. this was the scene that triggered fears of a terror attack. a decapitated head staked on a fence with islamist flags on both sides, and then an explosion at a nearby factory. a known delivery driver to the company remains in police custody, and his wife and sister and a third person was also taken in for questioning. this is the apartment where he lived with his family, and he and his wife had three children. we have spoke to neighbors here, and they said they were a normal family, and the kids played with other kids and the wife was friendly, and they did not stand
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out in any particular way. two elderly neighbors taking their dogs for a walk, they said hello and good-bye, they were not a remarkable family, just normal. cnn learned the victim was a family man that built a small trucking business serving industrial clients in france. he had employed the driver for less than a year. now, this is the delivery company, and it seems clear at this point that the owner was killed before the driver attempted to explode his vehicle at the factory, but what is not clear is where that murder took place. he had no criminal record and those security services monitored him at the fringes of
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islamist extremist groups, and he was not deemed an imminent threat. the factory is less than 100 meters behind me here, and police are still here blocking the area off as the investigation continues to find out what exactly triggered this attack. >> thank you very much. back in this country, federal agencies including the fbi are urging police departments all across the country to be aespecially vigilant for any kind of terrorists activity on the fourth of july. this came out yesterday. it just said be aware, this could happen, extremists could launch an attack, but there are no known active plots. things like this can really scare people, but you are former fbi, why do you put something out like this without specifics? >> because the possibility and probability get mixed up.
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what i mean by that, there is no known threat and people think the threat is known because the numbers are not there, they are not saying it's known, but around different celebrations and soft targets, the possibility is high because we know people want to attack us. when we start to hear chatter against a certain celebration like the fourth of july, it's better to put it out and have the public be more aware when they go down to see fireworks now, because they put that out f. they see somebody put a bag down like in boston, maybe for the next two minutes and that bag in boston sat there for two minutes and people saw it there, maybe now will say, that's not right, that's odd, and they will move or tell somebody. >> it's an issue of see something say something. we hear it all the time, and it's important to be vigilant. security measures around the
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fourth will be adjusted, seen and unseen. what do they mean, seen and unseen? >> there is going to be a heavier police presence. anytime in new york city during one of these events, you see a massive amount of police presence. but, there is going to be other things done, whether it be undercover officers in the crowds, and can you have certain sensors deployed to sniff certain things or dogs, for instance, but none of that technology is as good as human eyes, none of it. the reality is, if there is, you know, a million people in new york or around the country at these celebrations, most people know what is right and what is odd, and they just have to be willing to just look around and not be so comfortable. i think tunisia is a great example. >> these were people just laying around, innocent people.
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you have france and what happened in kuwait city, and what does that tell you about the new state of terror and these attacks right now around the globe? >> it tells me, poppy, like you just said, we have to feel comfortab comfortable. unfortunately, the world we are living in now, they are looking for where people feel comfortable. it's been growing towards that, and we have been saying malls and religious institutions and schools, for instance, they have always been huge targets and now the beach where you completely relax, and people have to have more of a sense of awareness in this day and age, and you have to realize the possibility is always there. >> are you saying, because peter was talking earlier with me,ing a national security analyst, and he was saying it's smaller targets than big 9/11 type of attacks --
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>> believe that. we have been predicting that for years and years, that eventually it was going to turn, and we didn't know when or how, and what happened was a whole new group came along, and al qaeda focused on the big attacks that made a worldwide difference, but now you go to tunisia and kill 20 people with a gun and now when people go to the beach they will be more hesitant. that's the day and age we live in, and i am not fear mongering, but if i can instill in somebody they have to react, then we have done our job. thank you so much as always. appreciate it. also, switching gears, a remarkable film ahead on cnn for you tomorrow night. you don't want to miss the premiere of "glenn campbell:i'll be me" a look at the music
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legend's battle with alzheimer's. every 67 seconds somebody in this country is diagnosed with the disease. most of them will be about 65 and 5% younger than that and still in the prime of their lives with jobs and families and responsibilities. sanjay gupta has an intimate look inside the life of one of those people.
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everything is gone. the thought is gone. it's gone as if it never even existed. >> even as doctors, we rarely get look into what's happening in the mind of someone who's suffering through this. who's suffering through dementia. i wanted to meet sandy myself, talk to him, try to better understand what was happening. hey, how are you? >> wow, what a treat. >> we'd only been together a few minutes before i got a glimpse of sandy's struggle was his memory. >> that was -- i forget what i'm saying in the middle of what i'm saying. now -- i'm sorry. i just lost my train of thought. >> one of the first and hardest decisions sandy and his wife gail had to face is whether it's
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safe for him to get behind the wheel. they've decided to limit sandy's driving to short distances from their home and reevaluate his skills frequently. >> it's not physicl obviously. you can do that fine. it's not so much memory as it is attentiveness? >> it's i get distracted. when i took my driving test, i went for a three-hour driving test, and -- >> in jacksonville. >> jacksonville. and the first two parts of the test, from what i understand, i basically failed. >> is that right? >> yeah. i didn't do well. i know i didn't. >> okeydoke. then keep going forward. whu get to the next stop sign, we're going to go left again. >> but even though sandy couldn't remember, he had in fact passed the driving evaluation and shared the happy news with gail at the time. >> did you pass? >> yes!
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>> yes! >> right now, this is an important test and i can't remember -- i can't give you in the years of -- years ago i could tell you the details of the test. >> what happened? >> yeah. >> are you nervous at all, gail? when you hear the stories? >> no i like it when he drives. he's a very good driver. he knows what he's doing. the problem is when that changes. >> i'm broken. you know, i'm not missing a limb, but i've got a defect. but it doesn't mean that i can't live my life with that defect to its fullest. >> like sandy and gail, every family must constantly reevaluate their loved ones' driving ability. as alzheimer's progresses. signs to look out for include failing to observe traffic sign and driving at odd speeds, hitting curbs and of course forgetting familiar places or getting lost. back to you. >> sanjay, thank you very much for that. we'll be right back.
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>> manufacture mourners paying their final respect to the church massacre victims in charleston. for a brief time, skirmishes
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over the confederate battle flag threatened to overshadow the services. martin savidge spent the day in charleston and has more on both. >> reporter: it is another extremely painful day in charleston, south carolina, with three funerals taking place back to back and inside of emanuel ame church. cynthia hurd was the first one this morning. she's a librarian, a woman who was known not only for her desire to want to help people but also working for the housing authority, too. all of these live that's were lost were extraordinary examples of helping and loving others. then came two funerals that were actually held together. that was for 26-year-old tywanza sanders and 87-year-old suzy jackson. suzecy is the aunt of tywanza. he according to witnesses jumped up and tried to protect his aunt when the gun fire broke out.
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he was killed. she was killed in that bloody rampa rampage. meanwhile, down in columbia, south carolina, there was an attempt by activists to hold down the confederate flag. they succeeded in doing that. one of them climbed up the pole, unhooked it and brought it down. they were immediately taken into custody. it wasn't long after the flag was actually put back up on the flag pole. they've been charged with defacing a monument and both have set bond at $3,000 each. many people across the country are offering to pay their bond because, of course, the confederate flag is being seen now as a great source of contention, especially since it was seen in photographs that the gunman had taken of himself prior to the attack. martin savidge, cnn, charleston, south carolina. >> martin, thank you very much. we should point out that the flag removal was orchestrated by an activist group that shot and
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released the video themselves of that happening right enough. now back to the manhunt in upstate new york. as many as 1200 officers spent the day searching for convicted killer david sweat. he's been 0 on the run for 22 days. yesterday his fellow escapee richard matt was shot and killed by police. no break in the case to track down sweat. bloodhounds have been unable to pick up his scent. alexander field spoke with the sheriff of the town about what he thinks is likely to do now that matt is dead. >> clearly the survival strategy that these men was to go cabin to cabin. could david sweat still be doing that alone within this perimeter? >> yes, but i don't think the availability of cabins within this perimeter is the same as what they've had until they've gotten to this point. because of the area, it's not as backcountry as what the original cabin was. so any hunting party that goes into this particular area during hunting season doesn't really need a cabin to use as a base. they can go from their vehicles an whatnot. perimeter they are in now
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doesn't continue the cabins or outposts the areas they've been through previously did. >> officers are manning roadblocks, checking homes within the 22-square-mile perimeter. this is all happening in malone, new york. that is where richard matt was killed yesterday afternoon. it's just 11 miles from the canadian border so obviously officers are wondering if daifd david sweat trying to make it over the border. remember, for all the latest on the manhunt, we will keep you updated, break in with breaking developments or you can get the latest on cnn.com. that will do it for me tonight. i'm poppy harlow in new york. thanks for being with us. coming up next "the seventys: peace with honor." vietnam is the most
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divisive, morally abrasive war americans have ever fought anywhere. >> it's time for the great silent majority to stand up and be counted. >> how do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake? >> we will refuse to do it. you may be in jail, but you won't be dead. >> military pressure will continue until a peace settlement is achieved. >> we can achieve peace with honor. >> the americans are leaving. the vietnamese must stay and face uncertainty. >> in vietnam we've reached the end of the tunnel, and there is no light there. ♪

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