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this morning even nascar, the sport of many people across the country, it looks to rid it of that familiar sight. >> we are always so grateful to have your company. thanks for sharing your time with us. >> we're starting in northern new york where weather will make the search for convicted killer david sweat even more difficult today. you can see the road is wet.
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it's starting to rain there. police will be fighting heavy rains as the day goes on. even a flood watch until monday, which will make the terrain even more treacherous. we're getting a closer look at one of the cabins that make a temporary hiding spot for the escapees. >> we want to focus on today's search. this is an area about 22 square miles. what's the weather like there and what are they saying about how it may either hinder or help them in some way? >> reporter: you'll see those weather maps in just a few moments, but this is what it looks like on the ground here in malone, new york. now we're getting to see these showers now move into the area.
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search crews here very familiar with having to do their jobs in the rain. in the dannemora region not far from here search crews immediately following the jailbreak itself had to deal with rain 80% of the time. today, search crews beginning to intensify their efforts. in fact, in numbers growing to about 1200 law enforcement officers here as they continue to search for david sweat. his alleged accomplice was shot and killed, richard matt. don't have any information to indicate that sweat is not in the area. officials, particularly the local police officials here are renewing their call to the public. they know if they're going to track down this dangerous
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individual, it's going to be with their help. >> he's been on the run for a few weeks. he's tired, he's fatigued, he's hungry. he's going to make a mistake. those calls we get in from the public, that's what's going to tip this case. it was a number of calls yesterday that helped to lead us to where matt was. >> reporter: they're going to be able to track this individual down with the eyes and ears of the people that really know their property and notice anything out of the ordinary. at this point the evidence they have that suggest he could be here is a set of tracks and bullet holes that was left behind on a camper. again, a lot of questions about how this individual is still on the run at this hour. >> more on the weather conditions that you're experiencing. and i think one of the biggest
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concerns is how long does this last, how heavy will it be because it could erase any trace of him. >> hopefully the weather is making it miserable for him out there. the temperature is 58 and a cold wet rain has been ongoing throughout the night. 5:13 is the sunrise. that's when we'll get some good light throughout. let's focus in on the radar and we'll be able to check in on the conditions here. my magic wall is having a fit here, but we'll go ahead and pop it in here and show you. the radar will continue to see some rainfall over the next few hours here. we're talking about not just a rainfall, but today we have the potential to get a half inch to as much as an inch of rainfall. temperatures today are going to be stuck in the 50s. i think we'll have wind gusts this afternoon, anywhere from 20 to 25 miles per hour. visibility is not going to be
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good, down to a half a mile for the searchers out there. we're going to remain cold and continue with this rainfall out there. it will hinder the search for the fugitive out there unless he's in shelter. very cold and very wet and that's going to continue throughout the day. >> thank you so much. we appreciate it. >> for more now, let's bring in tom fuentes. also new york city police commissioner bernard carry. how does the weather impact the search crews? >> they're going to have difficulties following any trails, any tracks. it's going to drive him into cover. he's going to be looking for other cab wins. he's going to be looking for shelt shelter. he's going to be looking for somewhere to get out of the weather, get out of the cold
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especially now throughout the night. and that is going to lead to lead that can give the law enforcement agents something to track him by later. i think that's what you're going to see now. >> so you bring up cabins. let's look at the new video of the exterior of the first cab win, the first respite for these escapees. we're seeing a remote area. and as we look inside at new pictures we have of the inside of the cabin, i wonder what can investigators deduce from the state of the escapees -- by what they used. if they used a blanket, may they were cold. what can you deduce from what they used or did not use? >> not just from what they find. but when they got the owner of the cab win up there -- he woul
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be able to say what clothing he left up there, fresh boots, socks, outer gear, that type of material. also they might have running water, electricity, television. they might have some amenities. the problem is that the fopoor officers don't have that, they're out in the cold, out in the rain. the commanders have to figure out how to maintain the perimeter and care for their people out there. they have to be fed and get rest and shelter. >> fatigue for the law enforcement officers there a concern as well. bernie, considering that it was just friday night after the death of richard matt and now the search, they said hot pursuit of mr. sweat, does it
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suggest to you that he's already escaped this perimeter considering he has not been captured in the last 36 hours. >> i'm not sure what they meant by hot pursuit. because as it stands right now, there are no real leads. hot pursuit in my terms or what i think -- and i think tom would agree -- it's, you know, you're right behind them. you have a visual. you have some sighting. i don't think they really had that type of pursuit going. firstha and if there's no indication he was actually with him, it's going to be interesting to see where it goes from here. >> we'll continue the conversation throughout the morning. thanks. >> thank you.
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>> thank you. we're getting incredible pictures from a water park that turns into a fiery escape. look at this. all right. and look at the people. they are literally running through the flames. and the big question at this point, besides the fact that hundreds of people are in the hospital, is why did this happen. fighting over the flag. and the woman busted for cutting down the flag in south carolina is now out of jail. also, we're going to hear from the survivors in tunisia. they share with us how they got to safety when that gunman opened fire at that crowded seaside resort. can a business have a mind? a subconscious. a knack for predicting the future. reflexes faster than the speed of thought. can a business have a spirit? can a business have a soul?
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new information about the deadly terror attack in kuwait. it was a saudi citizen. and police have arrested the man who they say drove him to the mosque. they say he was an illegal resident. the attack killed at least 27 people and injured more than 200 others. isis has claimed responsibility for that bombing. kuwaiti police say people have been arrested. one minute people are relaxing on a beach, the next they're running for their lives. at least 38 people were killed, nearly 40 wounded. the gunman was shot and killed. the police say isis might have inspired his attack, but there's
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no evidence the terror group orchestrated it. thousands of people are leaving the town of souse. most of the victims were europeans there on vacation? >> reporter: that's right. tunisia is denouncing the violence that led to the 38 tourists being shot to death. 15 of those at least were brits. and from britain the message is this is the most significant attack on britain since the transit bombings of july 7th, 2005. this is a mediterranean coastal resort in shock still some 48 hours now after the attack. it's a quarter past 11:00 in the morning here on sunday. the prime minister plans to crack down on what he calls
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illegal mosques. we are seeing the evidence of the crack down in security just on the road outside the hotel where horror was visited on friday. many peoplere saying too little too late. others saying let's not go back to the security days of the old regime pre-2005. those who were caught up in the horror and the chaos, it seems they will never forget what happened. have a listen. >> what were those moments like? >> i couldn't believe it. he was bleeding so heavily. i was laying in her blood, trying to keep her awake.
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>> reporter: meanwhile, the student who carried out the attack being described as a normal young man who loved soccer, dance and music until he was radicalized most likely online. the question is how many more of that sort of young man are there in communities like these and in countries like this and across this region and beyond? >> we know the tune tunisians a fighting back. thank you. let's talk more about the latest developments in kuwait and tunisia as well. the internal security director of the asia pacific foundation joining us from london. let's talk about kuwait, first of all.
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they're dealing with their worst terror attack in years. the bomber we know now is a saudi national who arrived by air friday morning just hours before committing this attack. the fact that he was able to get on a plane, does that indicate he was off their radar? >> it seems very much that the aim was to bypass border security at the kuwaiti saudi transit point. the fact that they spent money on an airline ticket just shows how much they wanted to carry this out. unfortunately now a dangerous precedent has been set with this attack in one of the gulf arab kingdoms. this could stir communal tension in the region. >> what does isis have to gain by attacking kuwait? >> keep in mind that isis's goal
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is to spread its tentacles. it's wanting to expand and conquest further territory and bring it under its fold. the isis movement is lead by a sunni muslim faction that has a very warped ideidealogy. now it seems it's spreading into neighboring kuwait. >> i want to get to tunisia real quickly as we talk about this 24 that they believe -- described as a normal young man. one of his neighbors went onto say, he couldn't have done it. it's like some radicals kidnapped his mind. do you believe that's an accurate description of what's happening with these recruiters. >> a lot of these people that are getting recruited, they are
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all getting ral cdicalized and indoctriçk trictrinated throug internet. isis is a death cult. and the fact that these individuals would give up their way of life, their jobs, their family, their security in order to carry out these attacks just illustrates how dangerous the brand of isis has become. it's superceding al qaeda when it comes to the brands of terrorism. a big celebration quickly turns into chaos. look. and then people start to run. you see here shots ring out at a san francisco gay pride event. we'll tell you what police say this was really all about . and wet, muddy, maybe even flood conditions are really
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we want to give you a look at some stories that are making headlines now. >> what you heard there were gunshots near a gay pride event in san francisco. you see the crowd running. one of the bullets hit a
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64-year-old man but he's expected to be okay. a group of guys near the event got into an argument and fired several shots. police say they don't believe the shots were related to the gay pride celebration. in charleston, south carolina, hundreds of people are expected to attend the funeral for depayne middleton doctor today. the funeral is set for tomorrow ev evening. funeral plans for the last victim haven't been announced yet. . secretary of state kerry says he is hopeful that iran will find a comprehensive plan for the nuclear deal. come to terms by tuesday deadline set by the u.n. security council.
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we just got some breaking details about the killed escapee richard matt. we're learning for about his physical condition and his mental state just moments before his death. we have that for you next. also a taiwan water park. now it's an inferno and you see people running literally through the flames trying to save their lives. we'll tell you what happened. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla, apremilast. otezla is not an injection, or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. some people who took otezla saw 75% clearer skin after 4 months. and otezla's prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't take otezla if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. otezla may increase the risk of depression.
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>> reporter: those local reports now being sited by -- or at least they're citing one unnamed law enforcement source that provided some crucial information that may tell us what life was like for richard matt in the moments leading up to that deadly confrontation with federal agents friday. we're now being told that richard matt was not only intoxicated when he faced off with federal agents but also likely sick. they don't go onto say exactly -- a possible autopsy revealed on richard matt could tell us when he was surviving on before he faced off with federal agents and maybe even where he was hiding out before that deadly confrontation on friday. meanwhile, the search continues
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and in fact is intensing ffying his alleged accomplice david sweat. yesterday officials did have good weather ahead of them for a whole day. but today a very very sharp contrast as we continue to see these showers. they're likely to intensify. visibility will likely be very limited especially for officers in the air searching the very tough terrain below. and for officers on the ground while this will be very difficult, don't expect them to pull back some of these efforts. in fact, they're very familiar with having to search in the rain. about three weeks ago they had to do this job in similar weather conditions. so as we continue to see the search intensify for david sweat, not only will law enforcement have to deal with the weather, but also the people here in upstate new york as well. >> let's talk about that. dealing with this weather. we have a survivalist and a trainer. he knows what it's like to live
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off the land and how to track down escapees especially in really rough terrain. he shows rosa flores exactly what they are looking for. watch. >> immediately things are already popping out to me. >> like what? >> i know there's a track right here. this has been pushed down. this group right here and this group has been pushed forward. look at the color. and as the foot left it lifted this stick and it pushed this into its place, because this is clearly not natural behavior. this was not how this plant was showing. >> shane says this would technically be called a run, a series of signs showing someone ran through the wood. but not every clue is left on the ground. shane also looks for clues at shoulder level. >> if i moved through her swiftly, i may have moved it in such a way that it did grab it.
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and this is the type of thing that we'll look for. it's the thing that doesn't make sense out here. >> there's a lot to talk with you about, shane. it's good to have you with us live now. let's talk first about the breaking details this morning reported by the buffalo news citing an unnamed law enforcement source that matt, when he was killed, was possibly ill maybe from consuming spoiled food or bad water. i'd imagine water and food the greatest concerns when you're out in these types of conditions. >> absolutely. there's the cardinal four when it comes to survival or disaster type scenarios. and that is shelter, water, fire food. and clearly water and fire share a symbiotic relationship.
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if you come across food, assume it's already bad or tainted. and you literally stake your life on your water source. i'm sure they've comed dysentery and probably a few other things. they've been on the run in hypothermic conditions, especially today and rough terrain. in terms of survival or at least the mind set you're not in a normal survival pattern. most people want to be found and take timeshelter and cleaning out the water. >> we've got video from that cabin. i wonder when you look at this now going to the fourth week of this escape for these two men. most people look at it as four weeks on the run in the wilderness. but how much of a respite could
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this cabin have offered? >> a tremendous amount. we actually don't even know how many cabins they actually visited. there are a number of structures and out buildings scattered throughout the adirondack region. it is a vast region for sure. knowing that these two were not survival experts -- and if they were they couwouldn't be coming back to the cabins and police would have a much harder time finding them. we know that they've been skirting in and out of these cabins that are seasonal. they're shared hunting cabins. in terms of their needs, they're clearly getting it from any of the man made structures. he's just using the woods to either move through or hunker
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down for the night. >> we had a flood watch. you're a survivalist. how does it impact being able to survive out there in these conditions? >> without the skills, it makes it brutal. just standing out there in the wind, you're creating hypothermic conditions for yourself. you're already depleting yourself just by standing out there. let alone not having enough water and food. and of course this high paced tempo of constantly on the move. it makes it quiet for them to move through the woods. it makes it difficult for them to hear movement from sweat. in terms of tracking, the rain is a good thing and it's also a bad thing. the rain will hold certain trac tracks, like field tracks that you see in a guide, which is a
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very rare occasion, but the softer the soil, the easier it's going to be to see it. but the rain is also detrimental for washing tracks away. look at protesters here waving confederate flags in alabama and south carolina to support its presence at state capitals. in the meantime, remember the activist in south carolina who climbed a flag pole to remove the confederate flag? well, she and her accomplice are out on bail this morning and they've become social media celebrities of sorts. also ahead, an explosion at a water park in taiwan. and look here at the people running through fire to try to save themselves. [music] ♪ defiance is in our bones. new citracal pearls. delicious berries and cream.
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it's just horrifying to watch, isn't it? you can't imagine what these people went through running through that scene, an explosion at a water park. this was yesterday in new taipei, taiwan. >> reporter: it was supposed to be a fun night out dancing with
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friends, partying at a water park, music, flashing lights. then this -- a massive fire ball engulfing the stage, terrified people screaming, running for their lives through flames that seemed to come out of nowhere. the injured carried in the arms of others, some dragged out on inflatable rafts. fellow party goers doing what they could to cool the skin of those who had been burned in the blaze. hundreds rushed to nearby hospitals. beds made available in military hospitals across the region to accommodate the casualties of what the local mayor says is the worst ever incident of mass injury in new taipei. it's believed colored powder that was sprayed on the crowd as
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part of the theme of the event ignited causing the midair explosion. these events have been held here before. video on the organizers facebook page shows bags of the powder for sale, people throwing it in the air and on friends, a bit of fun. similar to the indian festival event or running events around the world. they said in a statement, it is very regretful for this accident that caused injuries to many victims. it said a marketing company had leased out the space for the event. the mayor immediately shut down the water park and ordered an investigation. we've got an update to breaking news we covered here in the show yesterday. this woman and her accomplice arrested for removing the se confederate flag from the state house grounds in south carolina.
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tempers flaaring in south carolina. this moment came hours after this. two activists were arrested at the state capital tearing down the controversial flag there. during her arrest, the 30-year-old said she did it because it was the right thing to do and it was time for people to step up. you're a former south carolina house representative. you heard that argument there and emotions are running high. wondering if you are concerned at all about potential violence
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amongst people there. and what can authorities do to make sure that freedom of speech is heard without that? >> south carolina is not a powder keg by any stretch. we've gone through a series of traumatic events whether or not we're talking about the killing of walter scott to the massacre last wednesday that happened where nine people were murdered, including one of my good friends clementa pinckney. we're still in a state of mourning. but by no means is south carolina a powder keg or about to explode. that flag breeds such great tension in this state. for many of us it reeks of hate. that young man he shrouded himself with the hatred in that flag. i look forward to that flag coming down forever in about two weeks. we do look forward to that day soming soon. >> what makes you believe that is what will happen in two
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weeks? >> i'm cautiously optimistic, but i do have faith. i think the momentum is there. i saw dale jr. come out and support -- we look forward to our end goal. my goal is not to have the flag down for a moment. my goal is to have the flag down for a lifetime. we've been working at this since 1962. there's this belief that south carolina has just been sitting on its hands. but we've been marching. we've been marching from charleston to columbia. we've been filing bills in this process. right now our goal is within reach. >> she was trending on social media, the hashtag free bree.
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she's facing up to three years? >> it's a misdemeanor. it's punishable by up to three years. there's fines associated with it of up to $5,000. but i think the prosecutor will look at the end game. she there look at the intentions. certainly we have a society and a government of laws. you want to defer people from committing any acts. but attend of t the end of the have to look at a deterrent factor, but at the same time civil disobedience has a long history in this country and has a long history of changing for the better. do i see a prosecution? potentially. certainly she can get away with potentially a noncriminal offense. i think the legislature is going to address this issue in a
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couple of weeks. i think it's likely that it will come down. and i think the public sentiment will factor in. as a former prosecutor i'll tell you that prosecutors are elected officials. and i was an assistant district attorney, meaning the elected official is the prosecutor himself. you obviously want to look at any public interest served, you want to look at the law. but prosecutors are not immove m -- immune from looking at what the public is surrounding that. >> do you think that she has a real voice in this to inspire, to influence and did she do the right thing in the way she was making her believes known? >> she definitely is a voice in this. her courage and her strength both literally and physically to
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climb that pole and take that down is something that is resonating throughout the community. joey talked about civil d disobedience. this type of civil disobedience begets change. yes, she has courage and strength. and we hope and i hope that my colleagues in the general assembly when they come back in two weeks will be able to show similar courage and strength to that black woman who went and scaled the top of that pole to take that flag down. maybe we'll get it down for an hour this time. maybe we'll get it down for a lifetime. >> the fall-out over the confederate flag is extending to
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but you can count on our 1,000 americas and canadas best value inns for room discounts, upgrades, instant rewards, and a home town touch. nascar could be the next battleground in the fight over the confederate flag. >> yeah. fans, are they going to get on board is the question for a lot of people. >> flying that flag is not going to fly anymore. nascar released a statement supporting the removal of the confederate flag from south
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carolina state house. and they're reaffirming their stance against the flag at that event. he called the flag quote an offensive symbol. nascar has banned the use of the flag from their events for more than a decade. but it's still found its way into events. nascar has taken strong stances against it in the past, like in 2012 when it banned pro-golfer bubba watson's plan to drive the car because the car had the confederate flag on its roof. they're going to ensure that that flag doesn't show up at any of their events. that includes the campgrounds, the track, et cetera. nascar started in the south. some hard core fans are unhappy about this. we want to know what you guys think. should nascar put the hard brakes on the confederate flag? use the hashtag new day cnn. love to hear from you.
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>> thanks. thank you so much for sharing your morning us. >> we've got much for ahead in the next hour of "new day." it starts now. breaking new details about the capture of escaped inmate richard matt moments before he was killed. and weather conditions, they're taking a turn for the worse. even a flood watch could make it even harder to hunt down escaped killer david sweat. horrifying video from an explosion at a water park. people were on fire running to get away. more than 500 are hurt, many in critical condition. we have a live report coming up. two activists arrested in south carolina for removing the confederate flag from a pole on the grounds

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