the mystical fortune cookie or saying before he would associate himself with justice anthony kennedy's prose, i would hide my head in a back. in the end, scalia was not happy with the outcome of the cases, but we expect he was quite pleased with his decents. thanks for spending your sunday with us. fareed sa car ra gps starts right now. this is gps, the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zack ya. we'll start with the latest global terror attacks and what to make of them. we will focus on the kuwait attack and why it was a game-changer. also the iran talks. the clock is ticking and now

some obama faithful have turned their backs on the president. i will talk to one of those people. obama's former arms control andapons of mass destruction czar. and the troubled u.s. israeli relationship. who is to blame? the former israeli ambassador points the finger squarely at president obama. the administration's former middle east envoy responds. then double agents secret codes, russian intelligence the fbi, and a critical meeting at a hooters. the real life story of how to catch a russian spy from a man who helped to do just that. >> but first, here's mistake.

in thinking about america's enduring racial divide, i found myself intrigued by some lessons from an unlikely source. singapore. to help prepare myself for a trip there next week i asked the country's deputy prime minister what he regarded as the country's biggest success. imaged that he would talk about economics since the city state's per capita gdp now outstrips that of america, japan or hong kong. he spoke instead about social harmony. we were a nation that was not meant to be he said. the island expelled from the nation in 1965 had a population of migrants with a myriad of religions and cultural belief systems. more than economics, our social strategies. we respected people's differences, yet made a vantage

out of diversity he explained in an interview. how did singapore do it? by mandating ethnic diversity in all of its neighborhoods. over 80% live in public housing. every block has ethnic quotas. this is what people mean when they talk about singapore's nanny state. the most intrusive social policy in singapore has turned out to be the most important he says. people do everyday things together become comfortable with each other, and most importantly, their kids go to the same schools. when the kids grow up together they begin to share a future together, he said. this belief was at the heart of many of the efforts of the united states federal government

in the 1950s and '60s to desegregate schools and integrate neighborhoods. abandoned by the 1980s. the data shows an america that remains strikingly segregated. this residential segregation has translated into unequal access to security, basic health care and crucially, education. despite the fact that the supreme court ordered school desegregation 61 years ago, schools have actually become less diverse in the last two decades. a study last year pointed out that many black and latino students quote, face almost total isolation, not only from white and asian students, but also from middle class peers as well. these findings would not surprise singapore. the natural workings of society

rarely lead to diverse and integrated communities, he said to me. they more likely lead to mistrust self-segregation and even bigotry. he pointed out that in britain, half the muslim population lives in the bottom 10% of its neighborhoods by income. did that happen by chance he asks? singapore is an unusual case. it's a small city state. it has its critics who point to a system that impedes free expression and makes opposition parties face severe handicaps. they can do things western democracies cannot. all that said i believe that singapore is an example of a diverse society that has been able to live together and that we could learn something from it. to be sure singapore could learn some lessons from western democracies as well.

you cannot simply assume that the natural workings of the market or of society will produce social harmony or equal opportunity. government an elected government has a role to play. and it's not about speeches and symbols, it's about specific mechanisms and programs to achieve the outcomes we all seek. that's something to consider as america in the wake of the tragedy in south carolina debates flags and symbols. for more go to cnn.com and read my "washington post" column this week. and let's get started. let's dig into what the secretary of homeland security on friday called the evolving global terrorist threats after that day's attacks continents. joining me is phil mud, the former deputy director of the cia counter terrorist center.

phil what did you make of the biggest one, the tu knee shan one, does it strike you as isis inspired? i would say is inspired. i think we're seeing this across north africa, obviously libya. it looks to me that we're going to back to the future. we saw egyptian groups try to do this in the 1990s. i think there's a risk until these attacks. they're going to galvanize is supporters but they're going to leave people in tunisia to say why do we want these guys here. >> and the kuwait one struck me as significant because unlike al qaeda, this seems to be the i.s. methodology which is this has now become the standard operating procedure for isis. >> i think this is going to be the least visible in the united states and elsewhere around the

world. people will focus on what happened with the tragedy in tunisia. i agree with you. i think this is the most significant. they were trying to attack targets, for example, u.s. embassies and cultural facilities to get the americans and others to leave the middle east. this is isis trying to drive a stake in middle eastern society as they've done already in iraq. this is trying to draw a sharp line between sunni and shiite. >> so far, the one stable part of the middle east has been the gulf the gulf states saudi arabia. of course the big problem is now, they're going in kuwait in saudi arabia you have 15% shia. could this become -- could this sunni-shia thing start to destabilize the gulf? >> i think more likely in yemen. but the possibility in other

praise places i suppose that could happen. the hand of security in shia neighborhoods is going to be tough. all those countries have a lot of money to spend on security. they've had problems in the past in bahrain with see ya. so i think before you see any further things you're going to see security forces come in with an iron fist in these places. >> what strikes me it does exacerbate the sunni-shia twied everywhere. this probably is going to make it much harder for iraq to stay together the iraqi army to stay together syria to stay together. >> i think iraq is finished as a state. i think you're going to see sort of a stand. i think that you have such a divide between sunnis and shias in iraq you will never further

absorb in the future the sunni population into iraq. i also think the fight down in yemen is significant because people in the gulf are going to believe iran is behind it. you're going to get an exacerbation of the divide the suspensions about iran are going to rise. >> so the middle east you know it's going to get worse before it gets worse. >> i think it will get worse on two fronts. first, the divide between moderate sunnis and extremist sunnis are going to last for decades. but that divide that historic divide that goes back centuries between sunni and shia is rising up everywhere. we've now seen it in syria. we saw it in yemen. as you mentioned we've seen it in bahrain. now for the first time we sigh see it in kuwait. >> would it will overly optimistic of me though to say

this has turned into an hell of a warfare in the middle east? they're killing each other, they're going to have less focus on western targets in the west et cetera. >> you lived my life at the cia for 25 years. when terror leaders of organizations like al qaeda or isis in yemen or al qaeda in iraq are either focused on fighting the government for example, assad or focused on fighting each other, the likelihood they expend a lot of energy on washington new york, or europe, declines. the number of foreign fighters is so substantial that to believe that none of them will bleed out back to western europe or north america i think is shortsighted. i think we're going to see implications of this in europe and america. most of the energy of these groups is going to be against each other. >> incredibly complicated.

>> it is complicated. >> so lucky to have you, phil. next on gps, at the 11th hour five former obama officials have published an open letter calling for caution on a deal with iran. what other concerns that caused them to make such a public statement? i will talk to one of them when we come back. cience. kellogg's®. see you at breakfast, tonight.™ ♪ ♪ if you want a paint that's tough enough to protect from the elements. if you want a paint flexible enough to survive the subtle cracking of time. if you want a paint that gives you a lifetime warranty... only this can. aura exterior from benjamin moore. paint like no other.

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it's getting down to crunch time after two years of western powers patiently trying to negotiate a deal on iran's nuclear program. so many were surprised this week when five former obama administration officials came out strongly against what they think would be in such a deal. those five are former cia director former vice chairman of the joint chiefs dennis

ross robert ion horn and my next guest. he served for your years as obama's principal advisor on gun control issues. >> hi. >> what prompted you to put your name to this letter? you're limiting the ability of the administration to negotiate and make deals. if you were on the other side of the table right now, if you were negotiating with the iranians i can't imagine that you would appreciate having a public -- what appears to be aub warning from your former colleagues telling you what you can and cannot make concessions on. >> we were very aware of the importance of not asking for things that are unachievable. i think if you look through the substance of the letter, you'll see that the positions we take on the key unresolved issues are

very much in line with current u.s. policy. >> but then i don't understand the point of the letter. the point of the letter is to say the united states negotiating position should be what the united states negotiating position is? >> and we should insist on it. i think we've seen the iranians making an effort to walk back some of the positions that they tentatively greed to in april. and in particular as i'm sure you know the supreme leader gave a speech this week and issued a fact sheet which, you know clearly contradicts positions that the iranians have taken earlier. this may very well be a negotiating ploy it may not be serious, but it's important for the u.s. to stick to our position. and in particular we shouldn't be driven to seek an agreement by the deadline of late june or early jewel. july. if we need to negotiate through the summer, that's something the administration should feel it

has the luxury of taking that extra time. >> let's talk about that for a moment. it has long struck me that the status quo, the current situation is actually much better for the united states than for the iranians. their nuclear activity has largely suspended. you know so the clock has stopped in a sense and we could negotiate for another year another year and a half. will they put up with that in your view? >> i completely agree with you. there's a myth in washington that somehow the iranians benefit more than we do from the status quo. that's completely wrong. the status quo is very much in our favor and as the letter says recognizing that the pressure is really on iran to come to an agreement if they want sanctions relief. and therefore we should take our time and ensure the critical details are resolved to our

satisfaction. >> what did you make off that speech by the supreme leader? you've been watching this for years now. do you think it was a negotiating strategy? what struck me about it is it was very specific and totally contradiction to what the iranians appear to have already greed on. >> so we've seen this before last july as we were approaching the deadline of the negotiations at that time the supreme leader gave a speech that laid out very unreasonable red lines. that really threw a monkey wrench into the negotiations at the time. it delayed an agreement. eventually of course the iranians conceded. i think this is probably the same thing. this is probably a negotiating ploy intended to strengthen their bargaining position. it may mean we don't meet this deadline of early july. because i think it will be difficult for the iranian

negotiators to agree to something that contradicts these red lines from the supreme leader. so my best guess, unless the iranians cave in in the next two weeks, we're probably look at several more months of negotiations. >> pleasure to have you on. >> thank you. next the u.s.-israeli relationship is on the rocks and fingers are being pointed. i'll talk to former diplomats from both sides in what is sometimes an undiplomatic debate as you will see coming up. d edition metallic droid turbo by motorola. water-repellent. up to 48-hour battery life. that's your first "win." plus, it's only on verizon. the #1 network. there's your next "win." now for final "win." get $250 when you trade in any smartphone. and get 10 gigs of data for $80 a month and $15 per line. the win-win-win. hurry in, offer ends june 30th. and save without settling. only on verizon.

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in the last few years, the u.s.-israeli relationship has been brought to the lowest point that many can remember. there were deep disagreements between president obama and prime minister netanyahu. and by most accounts the two men just don't like each other. my next guest was israel's ambassador to the u.s. under netanyahu. he's written a controversial new

book called "alley." in the book and in subsequent articles, he explains all the way he thinks the obama administration lost the trust of israel from allowing public daylight on the disagreement between the two nations and much more. i asked martin to join me as well. he was president obama's special envoy for israeli palestinian negotiations. on that job he was on the other side of many of the issues. he was also u.s. ambassador to israel under bill clinton. we begin to talk about the daylight in the speeches but i want to pick up the conversation about where i asked about one other criticism that he made of the obama administration. listen in. >> let me ask you about another decision that you seem to have certain -- some problems with which was the decision to appoint martin special envoy.

you say in the book you thought it was counter productive because netanyahu didn't like him. >> martin and i have discussed this -- >> it says it was counter productive and made me think if kerry was serious about the peace process, why did he seem intent on shaking israelis faith. why should they worry about the sensibilities of israel. >> i've known for many years and appreciate his knowledge and his experience in diplomacy. but -- and i think it would not disagree with me he had a famously strained relationship with netanyahu. his appointment was i thought an unusual one to say the at least if you're trying to establish trust. my mantra was that israelis respond to feeling secure. they do not respond to threats. they do not respond to pressure. i would always say try love.

if you embrace us make us feel secure we will go that extra mile. it seemed to me pretty much early on that that message was not being internalized. with martin's appointment we discussed ways that he could build that trust. that trust was not established and that the relations ended up being famously strained. >> martin? >> well, famously strained is michael's characterization. i simply don't agree with that at all. my relationship with netanyahu had its ups and downs. i would say something that michael doesn't know, this goes to a lot of the things that are in his book he relates something where he has partial knowledge and the ambassador has criticized him for not knowing everything that was going on. he did not know that my

appointment to special envoy was cleared by secretary of state kerry with prime minister netanyahu netanyahu. as for building trust, michael doesn't know that the extent to which i went to build that trust with the prime minister. indeed following michael's advice on this. and we did work closely together during those negotiations and i followed certain understandings that the prime minister and i reached about what i would and wouldn't do. and during those negotiations i think we had a relationship of trust. when those relations broke down i criticized both sides for the failure of those negotiations. so i just think that this is another case in which michael in the process of trying to build wa case against president obama has misconstrued what actually

happened. >> i think it's an odd response for ambassadors to say that another ambassador doesn't have a full picture but they do. of course ambassadors don't have the full picture. we have our insights our perceptions and that's what this book is about. the book does not claim even to know the entire picture. the book is about what the -- the situation look the unfolding events, how they seemed from the perspective of the israeli embassy in washington d.c. there's no claim to omnipotence here. but, the end of this process, now we're talking about a process, at the end it took place for the most part after my term in washington. in israel the only blame that israeli heard was the blame that both martin and secretary of state kerry put on israel for

settling building in areas which are not considered settlements by the people of israel. they're considered the jewish neighborhoods of jerusalem and that the prime minister of israel specifically chose to release palestinian terrorist killers who had killed hundreds of israelis to keep the settlement issue off the table. to condemn them was simply unfair and under -- from my mind was another -- >> that's not what happened. that's simply not what happened. as a historian you're not giving an accurate account of what happened. >> as a historian and -- >> let's give martin a chance. >> please. >> when both of us care deeply about the u.s.-his relationship and both of us can at least agree that the relationship is in crisis why you would want to come out and pour flames on the

fire in this way is really something i find quite incomp helpsble. >> the administration was very, very disciplined -- i actually said this with respect -- in israel we have a rambunctious democracy where every member of the cabinet is a potential prime minister. but the obama administration was exceedingly disciplined in its messaging. that line that you heard, why would you want to pour a bucket of fuel on a fire i have now heard from four dichbt people briefed by the administration. i'm glad your guest has been briefed by the administration. >> that is simply not true. >> you just chose those words randomly. >> of course you have -- you couldn't have chosen those words randomly. they appear -- >> it doesn't require anybody to be told what to say to know that that's what you're doing.

>> i think you're well briefed. let's get to the heart of this -- >> how can you make -- >> we are missing the huge forest for the trees right now. this book was scheduled to come out in october. and it would have been much easier for me. but i purchased my publisher to bring it out now before the faithful vote on iran. this is not about books. it's not about fires. it's not about pouring fuel on fires. it's about the security and the future survival of the jewish state. it's not about legacy. it's about my childrens' lives, my grandchildrens' lives. i am not speaking as anybody's spokesman except for myself. this is a bad deal that endangers -- >> you got the first word. i'm going to give martin the last. >> look, i think that the issue

of the iran deal is being exaggerated in a way that distorts that is happening here. the purpose of the deal is to prevent iran from getting nuclear weapons, to put meaningful curbs on its nuclear program and should be assessed in that way. instead, the way that michael portrays it is that it's going to produce an iranian nuclear weapon that's going to be used to destroy israel. i think that's a vastly emotional approach to the problem that's being focused on here. and if that is in fact the case then it behooves israel less leadership and michael to find a way to work with the administration which the president is willing to do. i think that the critical -- the critical issue here is that the united states is israel's second line of defense, its most important strategic ally and the

relationship needs to be repaired not further damaged. and what michael is doing is causing it further damage for no good purpose. >> gentlemen, a spirited conversation. i thank you both for being frank and honest. that was michael oren and martin indyk. to see more go to cnn.com/fareed. up next reports recently have suggested that isis is searching for the materials to make a dirty bomb. we will dig into the problem of loose nukes next. at audi we know one thing to be true. the proper footing... makes all the difference. that's why we're partnering with toms to help them give 55,000 pairs of shoes to children in need in the us during the summer of audi sales event. [engine revs]

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the problem. over two dozen nations, many of them u.s. allies have weapons usable nuclear material some of which is not secure. a watchdog group called the nuclear threat initiative which keeps a meticulous record of these materials around the world. 25 countries have them, the group says and there's nearly 2,000 metric tons of it. the dangerous materials are stored in hundreds of different sites, both military and civilian locations. and shockingly there are no strict international rules for keeping the materials secure, they say. some sites have their own security forces to ward off possible attacks, but other sites simply rely on local

police for protection or must call in military units. and make no mistake, the threat of nuclear theft and terrorism is real. the international atomic energy agency has said that more than 100 incidents of unauthorized activity including thefts are reported every year involving nuclear and radioactive materials. in 2007 gunmen broke into a nuclear research center? south africa that had enough to build several nuclear bombs. the incident was very concerned. in moldova, six people were arrested in 2011 with bomb grade uranium in a sting operation and said they had enough to supply one-third of the amount needed for a nuclear bomb. isis has already procured radioactive material from research facilities and hospitals in iraq hoping to make a dirty bomb according to one

report. a terrorist only needs enough highly enriched uranium that would fit into a 5 pound bag of sugar to create a nuclear weapon. and nation states about the only entities that have the knowledge. there is some good news. since 2012 seven countries have eliminated most or all of their weapons usable nuclear material including ukraine. the obama administration has spent billions and spearheaded three international summits to address nuclear security. and earlier this month, congress finally approved two treaties that will improve standards for protecting nuclear material. still, worldwide, there remains an alarming lack of oversight over the most dangerous materials on the planet. there will be one more nuclear summit before the end of obama's term. the president needs to push harder to strengthen security measures that protect nuclear materials from terrorists.

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my next guest wouldn't strike you as a spy, but he was one. a spy for the russians in fact. so why isn't he in jail? it is a fascinating tale. he's a first generation american who when he took over the business his parents owned, got a whole lot more than he bargained for. i'll let him explain. so your parents own add research business for decades.

in the pregoogle era, they bought books and papers for people. and one of their recurring customers was the russian consulate. >> that's right. >> so talk about that. >> so it all started one day in the late '80s, my parents had a small office. a man walked in and said i'd like to buy some books. he showed a card quickly that said soviet something alongs my father thought, great, we have an account with the united nations now. these books were academic types. he left and my father went back to work. not more than 15 membershipinutes later, it was two men from the fbi. they said, that man was soviet intelligence. >> how did you ramp up this relationship over time? >> so my parents took the approach of sort of status quo.

they got the books for the russians and shared that list with the fbi and really had no interest in sort of moving the needle in either direction. i approached the fbi with a simple request of asking for a letter of recommendation to apply for the navy. that was my goal i wanted to get a star on my resume. that was it. >> what exactly were you doing for the russians? the russians would ask you for designs, technology about various military products even sometimes open source. >> yes. they wanted to get whatever i could give them. so part of what they had to figure out was first what i actually had access. what was my value to them. so part of it was, as you said they would give me lists towards the end of titles of military equipment that they wanted me to collect documents on. but then secondly they also wanted to check i was able to do this. as i progressed and had access to larger systems, i would be able to retrieve higher and more

sensitive information. >> who was the russian oleg? >> he was a diplomat at the russian mission to the united nations here in new york. i believe he was

es stranger than fiction. >> what would happen at these -- did they ask you for documents? drawings of f-22s, cruise missiles? >> the russians -- i think, you know the goal of any intelligence service is not just information. it's in fact human beings. it's assets. the russians were looking at me as a long-term source. part of that was to gauge whether i was willing and able to get them information. yes, i was passing them documents. i mean it was controlled by the fbi. clearly, the russians knew i was applying to join the military and they could gain information for over 20 years. >> how does it end? >> oh goodness. if you're the bad guy, i hope at some point you get caught. for me it ended, oddly enough back at hooters. i guess i can say i'm here. i don't want to ruin the book.

it was an adventure, and i never thought i'd get in the middle of it. >> do you worry that now that the whole thing is exposed, you've written this book the russians are going to come after you? >> it's interesting. the russians really are a professional military intelligence service. it's almost a gentlemen's game. chess on steroids. there is an underwritten luolrule. i have a lot of respect for oleg. he railroad he considered himself in military territory. i don't think it would benefit thing to do anything to me. >> next on "gps," the debate over the confederate flag is heard thousands of miles south of the mason dixon line. st miss. and ones you never thought you'd make. we help connect where you are.

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this week south carolina governor called for the removal of the confederate flag from the statehouse grounds in columbia. the state's official flag does not contain confederate imagery, but there are several southern states whose flags have symbolism, and calls to change the flags have started to come in. of course, the american flag has changed many times over the years, too, and it brings me to my question of the week. when was the last time the american flag was altered? 1958 '59 '60 or '61. stay tuned, and we'll tell you the correct answer. this week's book of the week is jonathan tropper's

"everything changes." he writes about life love sex and loss in a hilarious way. he can get surprisingly deep. all his books are worth reading, but this is the one i'd start with this summer. now for the last look. the debate over the confederate flag was heard beyond the borders of south carolina this week. farther than you might think. it's been 150 years since the end of the civil war, but take a look at these pictures of a celebration earlier this year. men, women and children wearing 19th century style clothes are partying like it's 1869. confederate flags abound in the air, on people's clothes even decorating the dance floor. this happens every year deep in the heart of brazil. let me explain. after the civil war, southerns flocked to the promise of a fresh start in a place that offered economic opportunities

and still practiced slavery. they found that in brazil which promised the american southerners cheap land. one colony's descendents throw an annual confederate party. they serve fried chicken and biscuits and play country music and enjoy southern style dancing in cowboy hats. when asked about the current con controversy controversy, the organizer said we do not accept any discrimination. he said the flag teaches us about the history of our ancestor ancestors. the correct answer to the gps challenge question is c. hawaii and alaska were admitted to the union in 1959, but it wasn't until 1960 that the flag added its 50th star. happy almost 55th birthday to the latest incarnation of old

glory, and happy almost july 4th to all the americans watching. tune into the show next week when we'll air my latest special, "blind sided: how isis shook the world." thank you for being a part of my program. i will see you next week. happening now in the newsroom david sweat eludes police for another night. >> he could be anywhere. the last time he was seen was at the time of the escape. >> on the run in the cold and rain. experts tells cnn sweat is likely worn down and will make a mistake. >> logical instability. >> moments after its launch, the spacex exploded. >> appears to