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anthem. ♪ you can make it but please call it something else ♪ >> reporter: peacamole. >> guacamolepea. >> i am a pea person. >> reporter: that's good to hear. >> jeanne moos new york. >> i'm now, now i am just hungry. thank you for joining us. ac 360 starts right now. >> good evening. thank you for joining us. we're following tense developments as we go into this holiday weekend including a massive emergency response to the washington navy yard where 12 people lost their lives nearly two years ago. thankfully a false alarm. it is also a sign one of many today of the growing preparation for keeping people safe over the holiday in light of a string of attacks overseas. we'll talk about that tonight. the concern runs so deep a major air force base is canceling fourth of july celebrations to remain vigilant. first the new york prison break.
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new details including on the final deadly con trun ledeadly -- confrontation. jason carol its outside the clinton correctional facility in dannemora. what do you know about the standoff between matt and the border patrol agent? >> we know now it could have been much much worse. given what federal authorities are telling us. we have seen the aftermath of that. you have seen the graphic picture, we will put it up for you. we know some viewers may find it disturbing. it shows the what happened after the shooting. we are now, learning what happened in the moments leafeding toleafed ing -- leading up to the shooting. the border agent told richard matt to comply put his hand up. instead he pointed a 20 gauge shotgun at the officer. that officer then forced to shoot. so as deadly and as violent as the situation ended up it could have been much much worse. if not for the quick thinking of that border patrol agent.
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>> the claims by david sweat it was joyce mitchell's idea to have her husband killed lyle mitchell's attorney spoke about that, what did he have to say? >> he did. and we should say that joyce mitchell through her attorney she has denied that she said she had nothing to do with the murder plot. david swellat telling a different story. saying it was her idea, not his, not richard matt's idea. late today, lyle mitchell's attorney coming out saying the following, "lyle wholly knows what joyce told him and that was that he didn't want lyle hurt." joyce mitchell saying all along she did not want to go along with the murder plot. that she loved her husband. in fact i remember her attorney telling you in an interview that that joyce mitchell very much loved her husband and did not want to go through with the plot. lyle mitch mell out turns out he still loves his wife. and still at least in some ways
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standing by her at least emotionally. >> you are also learning more about the staffing shake-ups at the prizson itself? >> that's right. new superintendent here michael fitzpatrick. kirk patrick. he is now taking over for steven racit, former superintendent. he is on administrative leave with 11 others. this new superintendent what's interesting about what is going to be happening here at the correctional facility is going to have to oversee several new rules. some include inspecting the structure of each cell each week. what he what we mean by that are actually the walls and that catwalk behind the cells those are going to be checked each week. and executive level executive now must be on the 11:00 to 7:00 a.m. shift. and in addition. the number of cells searched randomly for contraband that's going to be tripled. a lot of new measures this new superintendent is going to have to oversee. >> jason carol.
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appreciate the update. the heightened state of alert going into the weekend. late word some members of the armed forces are taking seriously, canceling july fourth celebration celebrations. it began with police swarming washington navy guard yard. people getting a message, some have heard before. active shooter in the building. this time thankfully no shooter. a false alarm. there is however a lot of concern about that kind of attack or others. chief national correspondent jim sciutto, joins us. at the navy yard. the police response very quick and significant. >> enormous. dozens of vehicles. shuft down shut down major streets. you have the country on alert with july 4th weekend approaching. military base on their own level of alert. they're considered a particularly high target. the navy yard had the shooting in 2013. when the woman in the building heard construction work thought it may begun fire. calls 911.
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this is the kind of response. this shows you just how seriously law enforcement and the military are taking this threat around the country. >> british air base used by the u.s. forces canceled its july 4th events. do you know why? >> this is the thing. spoken to european command. base as well. a base decision. decision by commanders that in effect the risks of holding the july 4 celebrations outweighed the benefits now. they did not have -- they have not said that they had a specific and credible threat. keep in mind. there are other bases around the uk. have u.s. forces did not cancel their events. same in europe as well. they heard something specific to the base that made them uncomfortable or simply the commander there, commanders have the right to do this. made his own decision. that he would prefer not to. risks were too high. keep in mind as high as security alert is here. it's equally or arguably higher in the uk. many more jihadis than here. country on alert as well. >> jim, let's talk alerts here
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in the united states. law enforcement across the country. upping security measures ahead of the weekend. they are, right? >> difficult thing to do in a country of 300 million people. they're focusing on publicplaces july 4th events. then you have cities -- washington new york los angeles. new york city putting out radiation detectors. thousand of cameras downtown to look for suspicious activity. you heard from head of counterterror in new york this is an unprecedented complex operation. just in new york city. but you can say the same around the country because you don't have specific or credible threats. you have a general sense that people who support isis might carry out attacks on the weekend. a very difficult thing to protect against. >> we have the chief of counterterrorism here. thank you. few places see the threats that washington does. new york obviously tops the list. leads the country in how much intelligence and counterterrorism on its own.
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the nypd possessesen house equivalent of a small country's intelligence agent. cia, fbi, as well as liaison officers in hot spots around the world. joining us james waters chief of counterterrorism for the department. thank you for being with us chief. >> thank you. >> how big -- is this really that different from previous fourth of juf lifeuf jufof july weekends in terms of preparations? >> as you know there is no credible threat to this event or new york torque city in particular. but our operating premise is that we are the target in new york city all the time. so the information that is out there is for awareness purposes and for people to go about their lives, enjoy the holiday weekend, come and enjoy the fires works. >> that is your message to people. don't worry about it. we'll -- >> we're well experienced in
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policing large events in new york city. this fourth of of julie will be no different. >> when you think about the variety of threats that exist out there you. know we just saw the concern over active shooter this morning at the navy yard. thankfully a false alarm. there was one two years ago. we have seen last week active shooter situations in a number of places. its that the biggest concern for you from a -- law enforcement prevention standpoint? you know an individual or several individuals? >> so we have a number of concerns. the lone wolf active shooter are certainly those concerns that we have that threat. down in d.c., the navy yard this morning, that just goes to show that there is a lot of planning a lot of training and in this case -- all of those authorities under kathy lanier they executed. they executed perfectly. >> that is what is interesting. i was down there talking to her a while ago.
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it used to be the idea was, create a perimeter. wait for tactical units to show up. active shooter. precolumbine. now it seems very much. nypd washington police around the country know -- this stuff gets dealt with very very quickly. the shootings take place in the first couple minutes. and you have got to go in with the officers you have on hand right away is that correct? >> correct. we have studied the active shooter going back to 1966. the amount of perpetrators amount of shots fired. and we train the officers to move to the shooter. move to the shooter quickly. neutralize the threat. >> that's a new way of looking at it than years ago? >> officers have to make a split second decision that it is an active shooter and not somekind of hostage situation or a barricaded situation where we would take time to negotiate a surrender, but an active shooter is moving his idea is to move in and kill as many people or hurt as many people as possible. and so the training is very specific. move to the shooter.
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neutralize the threat. >> fast as possible. some lawmakers are now saying this is the kind of the highest level of concern since 9/11. do you think that's accurate? >> i think it is one of the concerns. something that happened around the country unfortunately in many different places. and it gets a lot of media attention. but certainly you know we worry about -- many different things. many different types of threat. but, you know low cost low tech, high yield would be right in in the, framework of an active shooter. >> it is interesting because of social media, and the presence of cameras on cell phones. an attack doesn't really have to be a large scale attack in order to have a global impact. you know, the "charlie hebdo" attack was a confined event. though did drag on several days. but because people can video tap the. it can have a much bigger impact even if it is one or two individuals. >> that's right.
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i mean with social media, it's exponentially out there in the media. and it is covered. just like-- the events leading up to the fourth of july. so the tempo is raised. but we are -- we're, we're well prepared. >> that's the bottom line message you want to get across. en. >> jimmy: the weekk -- enjoy the weekend. >> if any one is intent on doing us harm. we are well prepared. >> great to have you on. chief waters. a busy weekend for the chief and officers in new york. a brief word on a picture in jason carol's report the officer that shot and killed matt. we showed you a picture of the officer that shot david sweat over the weekend. what made dannemora look like sunday school inmates sleeping with guard and having children with them. the man who tangoed physically
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with one of these creatures, a shark that could have easily killed him, killed his 8-year-old son in the water with him. tell you -- he is going to tell you what he did to get the shark away from his child. >> if i would have been in the ocean for another, you know few minutes. the other sharks showed up pretty quickly. i don't know if i would have made it out alive.
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welcome back. between the sex, the raw meat and oil paintings. what went down at clinton correctional facility in dannemora sound more like the fall of rome than upstate new york. it happened. as outlandish and apparently out of control it was, the one thing it was not is unique. randi kaye has another story from a different lockup where the inmates essentially took over. >> reporter: before a sweeping investigation into the baltimore city detention center the inmates seemed to be running the place. a deadly gang called the black guerrilla family lorded over an empire of drugs and contraband in the jail. all the direction of the their leader inmate tayvon white. >> tayvon white is wire tapped as part of the investigation and a quote that stood out where she said "this is my jail." something along the lines his word is law. >> reporter: how is white and his gang able to gain a
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stranglehold on the system. largely through seducing female correctional officers into sexual relationships. according to the government white even fathered five children with four different officers all while behind bars. >> the sexual die nameynamic of the corruption was really important. of what the fbi thinks is that was a we to establish power over these women, to build these relationships, to strengthen these bonds. they really had a playbook for how to use sex essentially to ensure their dominance. >> reporter: this is one of those guards according to the government. tiffany linder #8 months into her pregnancy got into an argument with a guard pregnant with white's baby. according to court documents, she said did he tell you were were having a son. did you know about our baby? the pregnant guard responded, don't give a [ bleep ] about the baby that's y'all's baby not mine. we having one too. so what? two of the pregnant guards
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allegedly even got tattoo's of his name. up until the scandal broke wide open in 2013. 75% of the jail's 650 correction officers were women. and according to one inmate a witness for the government up to 3/4 of those female guards were involved in "contraband smuggling" and/or having sexual relationships with inmates. that all begin to unravel when the fbi and other law enforcement begin to investigate. >> they were able to tap the contraband cell phones that gang members were using to build up a picture of the network, who was connected to who and build their case that way. he said people will be held accountable according to "the washington post." more than 40 people were charged with racketeering related charges including tayvon white. he pleaded guilty to racketeering conspiracy.
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this past february was sentenced to 12 years in prison. 24 correctional officers were also found guilty including tiffany linder. and three other women who allegedly were impregnated by white. randi kaye cnn, new york. >> so given what happened at the prison in dannemora, new york you can't actually be all that surprised by a story like this one. still hard not to be shocked by the degree of it all. want to dig deeper now with two people who the know these stories. robin kay miller worked as corrections officer in reikers island complex, writ in a book about her experience "sex, drug thugs, the untold truth of new york jail krumenttion." comes out in september. and patrick dunleavy a corrections officer himself. robin, let me start with you, a lot of what went on in baltimore and certainly what we have been learning about dannemora surprises and shocks people. it doesn't surprise you.
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what were your experiences like? >> the stuff that is going on in all the jails has been going on for years. if it's been going on since probably before i started the job. >> you were on the job for your career? 20 years? >> 1983. retired in 2005. >> the problems existed, i mean you had, you were in a room sometimes with 200 inmates the only guard around. >> yes. who did you have problems with? >> the problems was never the inmates. once you set your ground rules with inmates. once you demand respect. you give respect. it's like i used to run my house in areas when i was on reikers island like we was in the army. once you show respect. they'll give you've the respect. it was my colleagues that gave me such a hard time. >> why? >> just -- just because they don't come to work and do what they're suppose to do. our jobs is care custody, control. we are suppose to be worried about the inmates. instead a lot of the colleagues
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worrying abut the inmates they was worried about the officers the what they got on. who they're dating. who is going to give me some. who is not going to give me some. they took the focus off the job which was the inmates. and put it on everyone else. >> patrick, the relationships between officers and inmates, you say they're actually often dictated by the inmates. why is that? >> well because the inmate is able to use different type of techniques to gain kind of an intimacy whether an emotional intimacy or physical one. it can start off with simply saying hi good morning. how you doing today, ms. jones? you are looking good? did you lose weight? officer smith would you like a cup of coffee? stuff look that. >> starts off small. and then manipulation takes off from there you are saying? >> that's correct. >> did you find that as well? i was reading an article you wrote. you would have inmates kind of try to kind of test your
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boundaries? >> sure. >> robin? >> they're going to test you. to me being in jail is just like being on the street you. have a male you got a female. they're going to test you. i don't care where you are at. >> you were saying you had to demand respect, you had to set the rules? >> you look good today? i'm look what? who you talking to? you got to put them in check. your hair looks like -- what? >> if it started off small. if you gave them an inch it would go further and further. >> it was occasions, ms. miller can you bring me in a sandwich? really? i'd be like really? ms. miller can you mail this for me? it starts out like that. but what they do is they look for the lonliest and most isolated? and i always say, the reason why i bring up as far as relationships, between officer and officer and officer and inmate. how i am getting all the respect from the inmate not getting it from my colleagues.
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because the inmates they sit back and they watch that. and what happens -- i know it happens to a lot of females coming on the job, the guys, the male officers they try to rap to you. and when they can't get nowhere, then you are a bunch of -- stay away from her. and the inmates watch that. plus they probably have problems going on at home. now they come to work. once the guy stops speaking to the male officer. they've tell the female officers. don't speak to her. >> it's interesting to her. what she is saying. when you were a corrections officer earlier in your career. you had an inmate try to give you a $10,000 bribe its that right? >> yes, i was actually a sergeant. young sergeant. an inmate in prison for murder. and it started off small. and then one day he came to me and offered me a large sum of money if i would help him go out of prison. it was $10,000. i came forward. went to the inspector general's office. they asked if i would go under cover, wear a wire meet with
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stock brokers, lawyers. and i did. i accepted thousand of dollars. but the most interesting part of that is after the first payment was made. we want of on a wire and listened to the inmate talk to his stockbroker. as soon as the stockbroker convaincon conveyed to him he had given him the money. the first thing the inmate said is now i own him. that stuck with me for the rest of my career. you've don't sell for a price. >> yeah. >> eventually what we did, we locked up the stockbroker. locked up the inmate. locked up other individuals. confiscated money. >> you relate to that idea that they will feel they own you if you give them an inch? >> oh yeah. once they have some dirt on you. that's, that's just, human nature when you're dealing with slime. >> i look forward to reading your book in september. thank you for being with us. patrick dunleavy as well. >> i need them to go to robinkmiller.com to preorder my book.
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remember that robinkmiller.com. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> ahead, what donald trump said about illegal immigrants from mexico. take a look. this is what a shark can do. just if you are lucky. tonight i will talk to a swimmer who uh is more than lucky. he saved his son's life his own life. probably a lot of other people's lives as well. we'll be right back. leave early go roam sleep in sleep out star gaze dream big wander more care less beat sunrise chase sunset do it all. on us.
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donald trump pushed for boycott of macy's department store chain which parted ways with him yesterday over remark he's made. he retweeted this word of praise from a supporter. macy's stock drops after coming out in support of illegals and dust up with donald trump. the stock did fall by less than 1%. a fact. indisputably true. so the fact that mexicans mexican americans and latinos offended by what he is staying on the stump. the question how factually accurate are the words themselves. dan simon is keeping them honest. >> reporter: this is the line that brought donald trump so much attention and trouble.
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>> when mexico sends its people they're not sending their best. they're not sending you, they're not sending you. they're sending people that have lots of problems and they're bringing those problems with us. they're bringing drugs. they're bringing crime. they're rapists. and some i assume are good people. >> now let's go through it line by line. >> when mexico sends its people they're not sending their best. they're not sending you. they're not sending you. >> first of all, mexico as in the government is not sending anybody. that's problem number one. but moving on. >> they're sending people that have lots of problems. and they're bridgenging those problems with us. they're bringing drugs. >> drugs coming in from mexico is certainly a well documented problem often times through underground tunnels. experts say there is certainly an overlap between human and
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drug smuggling. the vast majority of undocumented people caught at the border are nabbed on immigration charges. 89%. while drug trafficking charges account for 5% according to politofact. >> trump's statement may be true but far from the complete story. >> next. >> they're bringing crime. >> keeping them honest. not a fair generalization. many data points "the washington post" reported shredding the notion. the post cited numerous studies including one from northwestern university that concluded there is essentially no correlation between immigrants and violent crime. the public policy institute also found that immigrants are under represented in california prisons compared to their representation in the overall population. in fact u.s. born adult men are incarcerated at a rate of 2 1/2 times greater of that of foreign born men. on this other highly inflammatory remark. >> they're rapists. >> the data does not support the
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categorical statement undocumented immigrants from mexico are response bum for large number of rapes. sex crime stats are difficult to track because 65% of rapes are reported. trump double downed on the rape comments. >> 80% of central american women and girls are raped crossing into the united states. now i mentioned this and they said how could you mention a thing like this. i had no idea it was this bad. it's horrible. >> the author of that investigative report says trump completely misread the article. she says many of the women are being raped by traffickers and officials before they reach the border. not immigrants entering the u.s. >> we're not talking about mexican immigrants. that's a pretty big jump to make. >> why did you have to say they were rapists? >> when presented with contrary facts, trump didn't back down when speaking with cnn's don lemon. >> somebody is doing the raping
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don. somebody you think it is women being raped. who is doing the raping? >> worth pointing out when making generalizations, trump followed up. >> mexico is smart. >> like comments like this. >> i love mexico. i like the mexican people. i do business with the mixexican people. >> these comments on mexico may be hurting donald trump with univision, nbc and macy's. they don't seem to be hurting donald trump with the voters. at least not at this point. but if past behavior is a future predictor of current behavior then maybe no one can be too surprised by donald trump after all. he went after obama on the birth certificater to though presented with facts all day long to the contrary. perhaps doing the same thing now. >> very extremely high polls in new hampshire. thank you. >> fears of more shark attacks this fourth juf lifeof july weekend. and hear from a shark attack
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beach-goers on edge this fourth of you life weekend on the course of north and south carolina. ten shark attacks this year in recent weeks. up from six all year long. the latest just yesterday in north carolina's outer banks. 67-year-old andrew costello bitten by a gray shark.
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injuries to hands, rib cage hip, lower leg. incredibly his niece says he is doing well. in a moment a survivor called a hero but first cnn meteorologist jennifer gray joins us from writesvilleghtsville, north carolina. any plans to close the beaches where the attacks occurred? >> not at all. the park service is responsible for the beaches they say they have jurisdiction up to the shore. after that once you get in the water it is out of their control. they have no plans to close the beaches they say they will stay open throughout the weekend. >> it is easy to hype shark attacks and do it an awful lot. there really has been an unprecedented number off takes in this area in the last few months? >> absolutely. it is a little unusual to see this many bites. just in the past couple of weeks we have seen 10. but researchers are saying they can't really pinpoint it to one thing or another. look sharks are wild animals. they're constantly looking for
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food. they're actually a lot of tiger sharks off the mid-atlantic right now looking for turtles. if you are in between the shark and the food source, you could possibly get bit. it is obvious we are not on the men up menu they bite and let go. they tell people be smart about it. try to stay pretty close to shore. do not go swimming where people are fishing. a lot of the surf fishermen are targeting shark. you don't want to be swimming around them. definitely don't want to swim around structure, piers, people are fishing off of. fish like structure. look to hang close to that. stay away from those. and just be aware of your surroundings. >> jennifer gray. thank you very much. >> patrick thornton was in shallow water. friday swimming with his 8-year-old son in avon north carolina. niece, nephew many others in the water the tonight hailed as a hero. you will see why. he warned others and fought off a shark that was biting him. pulling his own son to safety. getting others out of the water. patrick has wound to his leg and back. he joins us with his incredible story.
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patrick, this is so incredible you had the presence of mind to not only fend off the shark but to save your son and probably other people as well. take us through what happened? i know you were swimming with your 8-year-old son jack. when did you realize that there was a shark around? >> when the wave you know when the rip curl of a wave comes down and it is like white caps. >> right. >> that's kind of the, the shark must have been in that because when the wave crashed down i stood with my back towards the wave. and as the, as the -- as the surf if you will was getting pulled back into the ocean, that's when the shark bit me. >> in the wave? >> it actually must have come in the wave. because i didn't see anything. and -- that's when it started to pull. i thought it was really odd because it was a pretty big pull. the last thing i thought in my mind is there was a shark there. but i really noticed the shark when it it actually came around
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my back and then it -- it started. it actually came around and i saw its fin. >> i have got to ask, that is probably everybody's nightmare, seeing a fin in the water coming towards them. what went through your mind when you saw that fin? >> well it happened so fast. the very first thought i had was -- i have got to get jack out of here. number two, my niece and nephew were also in the ocean. i just started, i started shouting, shark, shark. everyone out of the water. at the same time i'm punching the shark trying to get the shark away from me. and then went over to you know to obviously grab my son. >> i assume jack heard you shouting shark. i don't know if he saw the fin as well. how was he? was he in shock? did he know what was going on? >> he just looked at me our eyes met. and he knew by looking at my eyes that i was serious and that he needed to listen and we needed to get out as soon as
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possible. >> you have no doubt it was the same shark that bit you each time? >> i never saw it but the folk that were on the beach at the time said there were two or throw sharks that came up afterwards. so i believe it was the same shark. but it could have been -- it could have been a different shark because, by the time i got out of the ocean there were two or three sharks swimming in the same area. if i would have been in ocean for another few minutes. the other sharks showed up pretty quickly. i don't know if i would have made it out alive. >> when you were punching the shark. do you think that had an effect on the shark? >> i do. you know the force at which i was punching the shark would have been hard for him to hang on. i was punching him as hard as i could. i do think that's the -- why he was -- i believe that's the way he disengaged from me. i have learned since that that was supposed that's something you are supposed to do. and by happenstance and just being alert and reactive that's
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what that's what i did naturally, actually. >> you were flown to a hospital. how, how is the healing process going? >> yeah thanks i appreciate it. a couple things, the avon first care responders did a phenomenal job. they were there within within 10 minutes of me being on the beach. and then they, they like you said they air lifted me right to the norfolk general hospital. and as soon as i got, as soon as i came in on the helicopter, they brought me right into surgery and operated immediately. >> does this change the way, is it mountain vacations from here on in for you? >> a good question. i really haven't thought about going on another vacation. >> you deserve another vacation i got to tell you. >> well thank you, i appreciate that. you know i don't think i am going to take a different approach. i think what happened happened. having said that the biggest
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surprise here was the shark attacked me at what i thought would be you know very shallow water. and was sur priedprised. the next vacation i take will be in the mountains not the beach. >> i can understand that. patrick again. you are obviously a great dad that you were able to be be so kind of rational in the midst of all of this. and save jack and your nieces and other people on the beach. i know i have seen interviews other people on the beach credit you with with possibly saving their kids as well. so there is a lot of people very thankful for what you did. proosh you appreciate you talking to us tonight. thank you. >> thank you, i think i am here by the grals of godce of god. thank you. >> two men who have been together for 27 years. they want to get married. as the it is now their right how to do so. but the county clerk, someone we told you about this week still isn't making it easy.
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been less than a week since the supreme court made marriage equality in all 50 states. in one county in texas we have been telling you about hood
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county clerk katie lang who said he will noter to licenses to same-sex couples despite the supreme court ruling. she seemed to back down from her position a bit. that doesn't mean she is making it easy for gay couples who get what is their legal right a marriage license. we want to introduce you to one of the colors. cnn's ryan noeblzbles has their story. >> reporter: this may be the epicenter in the fight over same-sex marriage. a small town roughly 65 miles southwest of dallas boasts the first town square in texas. >> welcome to god's country. >> reporter: the town may be the last to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. >> it's one man, one woman. >> they have been together for 27 years and were prepared to get married on monday. it was their first opportunity after the supreme court declared gay couples have a constitutional right to marry.
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they want their license to read hood county where they live and pay taxes so. far the county clerk is holding up the process. >> we want to be the first people in hood county to be married. we thought monday. >> reporter: lang said he would noter to the licenses because of her religious objection. later in the week she said she would allow other members in the office off to do so. couples like jim and joe, have been told the proper paperwork has not arrive. in small counties in texas, the logistical issues have been worked out and gay couples like jonathan means and jason white successfully obtained a license. while jim and joe continue to wait. >> when do i comen your office? she said i didn't know. everything she didn't know t lang's reluctance sparked a battle in this quiet town. religious freedom supporters on one side of the street. gay rights activists on the other. one side defending lang's right to object. >> we have a message for katie
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lang. you are not alone. your community is here with you. >> reporter: the other demanding she abide by the supreme court's order or quit. >> get on board with equality or reseenign today. >> reporter: as many americans come together to celebrate independence a texas sized battle remains over an issue the highest court thought they settled. >> ryan nobles joins me now. has the clerk office explained what's holding up the paperwork if that is something that is being held up? >> no they haven't. that's frankly one thing that jim and joe are frustrated. they don't know exactly the reason why their marriage license is being held up. they printed out an example of a marriage license from another county, yy issuing same-sex marriage licenses that wasn't enough for hood county. they may file a lawsuit monday if the issue isn't resolved by then. >> is this woman, k.d. lang making any public statements
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this alleged paperwork problem? >> well she is represented by an outfit called liberty ns to the which is a nonprofit law firm based in plano, texas, near dallas representing her in the case. she talked only through the lawyer. i spoke with her lawyer earlier in the week. tried to contact him tonight to find out what the status of the situation is. they continue to maintain it is her right not to issue those same-sex marriage licenses herself. but that she will do it for everyone when exactly that will happen we are still waiting to find out. >> ryan nobles appreciate the update. thank you. ahead. cnn films, glen campbell's i'll be me and the singer's jrny yjourney across america after he was diagnosed. i'll speak with campbell's wife and daughter about their journey of love and music. next.
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saturday, ccnn will air "glen
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campbell i'll be me." follows his tour across america after he was diagnosed with alzheimers disease. >> glen last night you sometimes forgot what key it was in but you could remember the melody. how is that? >> i couldn't answer it. but i can do it. i can do it when i want to do it. it is amazing. sometimes i don't want to do it. >> no it's just something that is in your system that's -- i really don't know what it is. i wish i wish i knew. >> really extraordinary documentary. i recently spoke with glen campbell's wife and daughter ashley. >> kim, i think it was so brave of -- of you and your daughter and your husband to go public with with your husband's alzheimers diagnosis and for him to go out on the road and -- why did you want to do this? and to make this film about it? >> well glen had just finished
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doing an album. he was all set to go out and do a tour to promote it. we got the diagnosis of alzheimers. we did have a discussion about it, you know is this something we should do? i asked the doctor about it. the doctor said if glen is still function and he enjoys it i think it would be good for him. glen said i feel fine. i am going to go out and do my show. we talked. we said. well what is going to happen if you mess up or if you start forgetting lyrics or just doing something odd on stage. he said i will just tell them i got alzheimers. awe saw tow so that's what we did. he was open and honest about his life. i think it really worked out well. because when he was honest about his condition and opened himself up. people just came out in droves to support him and root for him. >> yeah. ashley you were performing with him. what was that like to -- to do that to be on the stage? there would be 15 standing ovations in a performance? >> well he made it easy just by being so great.
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but just getting to play with him and watch his musicianship and see how much love the fans had for him. that's something that you don't experience a lot in modern day. just that kind of long-term, almost unconditional love for some one who has created beautiful music and has great talent. >> to you what is the message, so many people are going to experience alzheimers so many people have through, having a loved one do it you, you still find joy in every day with with glen? >> yeah. you just have to make the most of each day. and we, we have a since of hume mr. as a -- hume mr. asor as a family. glen led the way. and with a support team. and care givers. care givers need support for each other as well. there is a lot of sadness. a lot of depression can go with it when you are losing somebody that you love. but also just to no one person
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can take care of a person with alzheimers 24/7. it take is a team. >> such an amazing thing you have done. proosh you appreciate you coming in. >> glen campbell i'll beme. saturday. the cnn original series "the seventies" starts now. >> tonight television takes a look at itself. >> who is is on the idiot box. it is only an idiot box if someone is watching. >> our obligation is to entertainment. we have left something to think about, so much the better. >> charges were leveled at the commercial television networks. >> congress has no right to interfere in the media. >> excuse me! >> we have the responsibility to