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every sunday at 9:00 and noon. gps starts right now. >> the questions haunt us. each time we witness a terrible new savagery. >> the images are horrifying. >> each time we mead the face of evil. >> we ask how, why. how could they come out of nowhere and slaughter innocent and threaten the world.
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>> cop off the heads of whoever you may bring. >> and what happens the most important question how could we not have known? the answer is we did. this is the story of what we knew about isis and when we knew it. it is a story that has not been told before not in its entirety. told by the people who meat the journey into the mind and heart of isis. >> we begin with an extraordinary chance to look into the islamic state. not a single reporter has dared to venture there. since the gruesome beheadings of juniorists happened. >> i am the citizen abandoned by my own government. >> these to be my last hours this this world.
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>> heading straight into the heart of darkness. that is precisely what this man did. >> i was preparing the trip and every night i felt a knife on my throat. i felt it physically. >> this is a german journalist. last year he crossed the borter into into isis territory. >> he went to an iraqi city about the size of philadelphia. population around 1.5 million. >> this extraordinary video gives us a rare look into
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everyday life under isis. isis has its own license plates and cop who is give tickets and friendly shopkeepers. >> i never in my life met people like this. >> this of course is the mosul officials wanted to see. they gave permission to come to the city and they believe they needed to leave alive to make a point. they wanted to show that this state is working. it's not a perfect state and not like the united states but it's a state. >> it's getting bigger. he saw new recruits pouring in
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every day. >> in this we had every day more than 50 new fighters. they can't lose fighters. they don't care. the amazing thing is they are completely enthusiastic. it's the time of their life. they think they are part of a historical event. changing the whole mideast. >> among them were americans. >> i met many americans. i met many germans and french people and english people but many americans. guys from new jersey. >> there were also american weapons. so just carry them like a badge of honor, even the children. >> how old are you in. >> these child soldiers 12 and 13 years old, now go to what isis calls schools.
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>> we started a new school system that i found is completely wrong. completely crazy. it's a system. >> isis officials trotted out a few officials to talk to. this man is one of a group of captured kurdish soldiers. he said he was afraid. shortly after, isis put them in tames dressed in orange jump suits. they were paraded through the streets and isis made a propeganta video out of it. it's hard to believe, but according to him, there people in mosul who said they are burden off under the iz ma'amic
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state. they suffered at the hands of shiites. >> first of all, instead of anarchy, they have law and order. people don't like it but they like the security. they take taxes and take care of the poor. >> bizarrely, isis even reaches the disabled. this is a video for those who wish to join isis. that kept him away from one group. he was not permitted to speak to or go near a single woman. perhaps the most astonishing thing he heard from soldiers and leaders is this. >> they want to provoke the united states to bring ground
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troops. they want american boots on the ground. they want to fight the americans. that's their dream. the ultimate fight against the americans. that's what they want. what they hope. >> they want to fight the americans on their own turf. isis has a different cream. osama bin laden wanted to perpetrate large scale terror attacks against the west. isis may do this but to further the aim at building a state. you cannot understand isis without going back to the signature moment. the most spectacular attack.
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19 al qaeda operatives hijack four planes and knock down two sky strainers and crash into the pend gon and kill almost 3,000 people. >> the people who knock these buildings down will hear all of us soon. at that moment the american government searched for a mitting response to this attack. at that moment the seats were planted. it would take years and untold numbers of dead before they would get al qaeda. you can see it is horrifying with the american response to the creation of the islamic state. that line begins 18 months after september 11th. the united states invades iraq.
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>> my fellow citizens, this hour american and coalition forces are in the statements of military operations. to disarm iraq and free its people and defend the world from grave danger. >> when the u.s. invaded, it hasn't thought much about the day after. it was very much focussed on overthrowing saddam. what happened in the initial weeks was a power backing. >> as they devolved into chaos, one man sees the moment. that man is al zarqawi, the got father of isis. in 2004 he swore allegiance to
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osama bin laden and became the leader in iraq. >> he is one of the world's most dangerous terrorists. >> his ultimate goal was to create an islamic state. events in iraq were going to give him the chance to realize his dream. >> the old military needed to be disbanded. saddam hussein's military was out on the streets and captured himself. >> we got him. >> sunnis were out of favor and out of jobs. they had guns and organizational prowess. al zarqawi began recruiting them. >> he was a major celebrity in 2004. he became a rock star. >> some of the worst violence americans saw on their tv screens were courtesy of al zarqawi. >> he was like a psychopath.
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>> he blew up a holy shrine. >> the murders of innocent civilians and human beheadings focused on not just on foreigners but shiites. other muslims and tactics that are hauntingly fam. >> no one the u.s. wants to kill more than him. >> the cia was track his every move. u.s. forces killed him with two 500 pound bombs. >> he is killed in a massive air strike. he was e limitiated. >> his death is a severe blow to al qaeda. >> as it turned out, the
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movement he began would survive that blow. when he come back, the rise of the leader of isis. he was not considered. >> inside an american prison.
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s an american prison. during the iraq war, the most
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dangerous were locked up here. up to 20,000 of the angriest men. some americans called it camp hell. it wasn't just crowded, it was violent. from 2 thousand 5, riots broke out. detainees went on a rampage, taking over whole sections of the camp. they were firing into the crowd and at least four were killed. >> the major general was brought in to fix the camp. even he was wary of the inmates. here he is giving nick robertson a tour in 2008.
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>> we have about 2000 thousand identified. >> we have she'lls to protect us and everyone is looking at us now. >> we don't want to stay here that much longer. we will organize around us. >> there were beatings and unexplained deaths and several dangerous ji hathadis escaped. day in early 2004, a newman man arrived arrived. he was the leader of isis. and yes, he was in american custody during the iraq war. he has shown his face publicly only once. last year. when he gave a sermon to his
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followers. but back when the u.s. had him under lock and key, he was seen as believe it or not, a man who could be trusted. >> the americans seem to see him as somebody who could keep the prison quiet. there 24 camps within the sunni side. he was allowed open access to all of them. >> he was noft considered from everything we know now a high level. he was allowed to lead prayers and allowed to give religious lessons. >> the future leader of isis was giving other inmates lessons on islam. those inmates were jihadists or former baathists or common criminals. >> it was a jihadist university.
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unquestionably. >> put them all together in the baking heat of southern iraq a man who dreamed of a new kind of terror. it was a recipe for isis. >> they were playing soccer together and strategizing together. >> one thing is clear. he went through a transformation at the camp. >> he was an average person and he was arrested by the americans. >> by the time they left he was someone else. all we know is he became a different secreture in terms of rat calization and in terms of building a huge network and militants in the prison. >> he networked with hundreds of jihadis, at least some of whom would join isis and the day
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would come when he would need military expertise. enter saddam hussein's army. men and then set free. # he was recommended for release by a review board in december of 2004. they did not consider him a threat. whether it turns out he is the mastermind of isis or a figure head the fact remains the united states put a $10 million price tag on his head. when we come back the dangerous way that isis is using us.
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. >> evil just a click away. thousands of videos are strewn across the internet. much of it is unbearable to watch. the awful beheadings and the fiery murders. all of it may add up to the single biggest reason for the success of isis. like so much of what the group does, this is a terror tactic we have not seen before and it is frighteningly effective. >> 20 years ago, you could never find the three people in minnesota who would be attracted to the isis ideology. today you can and they can find you. isis has used facebook twitter, and the worldwide web as the command and control system. >> the violence is enhanced by
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artful editing and special effects and powerful music. some videos really are like small films done with real skill. ironically it is the barry:ism that makes the clips go viral. no one has seen anything like this. most of us look at this and this and wonder how it could possibly attract recruits. but for some young men raised on violent video games and shoot em up movies it's a powerful lure. >> actions speak louder than words. it is savagely and viciously all of us here. we look at the horrible evil. of course it is evil, but this is part of the strategy to convince young men and women who are on the fringe and have no purpose in life and suffer from torn identities come to us.
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>> now brothers and sisters, come to jihad and feel the happiness that we are feeling. >> they want killing machines. that's why you see them doing these videos and making kids watch these videos and making kids commit crimes and kill. because they are trying to establish a new generation of killers. >> the mixed mentality. >> the gang idea is important. isis uses it to manipulate kids. a lot of the propaganda mixes the violence with scenes of camaraderie and friendship. the people in isis videos seem to be saying we did not belong where we were. but now we have found a home. a powerful message to the millions of unemployed disconnected young muslims across the mideast and even in countries like france and germany. >> i originally come from
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canada. >> i think like i'm still dreaming. i'm thinking like i'm in the dreamworld. you have to be here to understand what i am saying. >> isis manipulates us television news. they put their videos online and we put them on television. in a bizarre twist, isis turns around and makes clever use of what it sees on tv. this video is called victory in kobani. it chlorifies the isis capture of that syrian city while mocking president obama and other western leaders. >> first of all, there is no military solution to isil. i had military only solution. >> the angry rhetoric of cable news fits right into the script. >> we have proven it. we cannot defeat these people. we are so incompetent in terms
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of conducting a foreign policy and in terms of military operation. >> cnn makes an occasional appearance and fox news is a favorite of isis. with commentators who demand boots on the ground and playing into isis dream of a grand battle. >> when kobani falls and by all accounts it is going to the united states will look absolutely foolish for doing some strikes that had no effect on the out come and isis will come out more empowered than ever. isis will be the big winner and the united states will be the big loser. >> all of it is frighteningly effective, creating a 21st century machine designed perfectly for the young and built to recruit followers from across the world. >> they were raised on twitter. they were raised on you tube. they were raised on this.
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>> isis is cnn to somebody's home tv. these guys are very sophisticated. they are a whole different generation. >> in just a moment isis and the white house. the story of what we knew about the terror group and when we knew it. >> we failed to understand the enemy that we faced. what do a nascar® driver... a comedian... and a professional golfer have in common?
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it is a moment americans will never forget. u.s. contractors brutally murdered. their bodies burned and hung from a bridge. >> four u.s. civilians butchered, dragged through the street. >> this was fallujah iraq. the year was 2004. the atrocity aroused deep
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american anger and brought promises of retribution. >> we will hunt down the criminals and kill them and capture them and pacify fallujah. >> the u.s. forces for two long and bloody battles to retake the city. nearly 70 americans lost their lives liberating fallujah and hundreds more were left seriously wounded. ten years later fallujah falls back into the hands of an enemy. this time it's isis. just a few days after fallujah fell the president talked about the threat from the terror group in an interview with "the new yorker" magazine. he said the analogy we use around here sometimes and i think is accurate is of a jvt puts on lakers uniforms that doesn't make them kobe bryant.
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>> i was disappointed. i was disappointed he said that. i don't think he was well-served. >> the need for intelligence -- >> michael flynn had a front row seat to the rise of isis. he led the defense intelligence until late last year. >> we failed to understand the enemy that we faced. >> flynn said intelligence officials warned the administration that isis was growing more dangerous before the president made his infamous comment. the president has said the intelligence on isis was inadequate. here he is on 60 minutes. >> how did he end up where they are in control of so much territory. was that a complete surprise to you? >> well i think our head of the intelligence community, jim clammer acknowledged they
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underestimated what had been taking place in syria. >> you were a dia at the time. do you think it was an intelligence failure? >> no i don't. it's easy to -- i will take one for the team. the president has to decide who he is going to listen to and what information he is going to use. i think that he was poorly advised to say that. >> the president makes no apologies for being measure and deliberate about committing u.s. military resources. >> benjamin rhoades is the security adviser and a close to president obama. >> do you think we should have alerted to the threat isis posed earlier? >> you know, it's easy to look back and say you could have been alerted to a specific threat at a certain time but what action would that have triggered?
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part of his approach is some degree of restraint in saying we are not going to chase every rabbit down every hole in the mideast. >> the white house did under estimate isis and they seized on the issue, growing increasingly stridened. >> the strategy will fail yet again. this president needs to rise to the occasion before we all get killed back here at home. >> even former top officials in the obama administration had tough words. >> it's more than an intelligence failure. it's a policy failure as well. >> the solution offered by most critics is the one thing isis wants the most. american boots on the ground. >> we don't believe as a matter of policy the insertion of ground troops is the right way to go. what we learned from iraq and other experiences is there is more legit masimacy for people
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fighting on the ground for their own future. >> the biggest policy failure, the biggest underestimation was not of the strength of the self style islamic state, but the weakness of the iraqi state. in the middle of 2014 when isis started taking town after town in iraq the iraqi army essentially laid down its arms and ran away. remember this was an army that the united states had spent more than $25 billion building up. an army more than 200,000 strong. more than six times the size of isis and maybe more. it was all rendered useless against the isis assault. why? well, much of it can be pinned on one man. >> if you ask me what's the
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most important factor behind the insurgence of isis, i would say al maliki. >> they helped put him into power in 2006. >> i appreciate your commitment to representing the people of iraq. >> back then maliki's appointment was touted by the administration as a triumphant moment for the newly democratic iraq. >> i appreciate you recognizing that the future of your country is in your hands. >> maliki a shiite needed to heal between shiites and sunnis in iraq. he never did. so when asked by the shiite abusers to fight against isis the sunni soldiers and the iraqi army simply said no. >> for many sunnis they look to
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iranian-backed regime and looked at isis and some of them made the disastrous calculation that isis was the lesser of two evils. >> the last american soldier left the country in 2011. after the u.s. account not reach agreement with maliki to maintain a military presence. >> the question we asked when people look back is what would we have done with 10,000 years of troops. would they enforce security and would we have wanted them to be fighting in places like mosul? >> republicans have criticized president obama for not leaving troops in iraq. some said if american forces had stayed there would be no isis. emma sky believes that was never in the cards. iraq's prime minister maliki had a new set of patrons. his fellow shiites in tehran.
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and they made him an offer he couldn't refuse. >> that was part of iran's deal with maliki. we will give you a third term but the conditions are no american soldiers. that was what tehran demanded and no way we were going through the parliament. >> one thing is clear. it was only iraq's army that could have stopped isis. instead, iraqi soldiers threw down the weapons and ran. next on blind sight, what drives these? what makes them tick? you will go inside the mind of a radical. meet a man who was prepared to die for a fantasy. the idea of an islamic caliphate.
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the 1980s and 90s in pakistan were crucial years for jihad. bin laden was there, it's where al qaeda and islamic terrorism as we know it today was born. foreign fighters were constantly flowing in. now incredibly foreign fighters are flowing in even faster to iraq and syria. an estimated 20,000 of them in total. what drives these people there. what makes them leave home to go far away and fight for an idea? a fantasy? you are about to find out. in the days that followed 9/11
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just about everyone in the world seemed to be standing with the united states. but not this man. >> i'm very, very sorry to your viewers for saying this but i lacked empathy with the victims. >> he didn't start his life as a radical. he grew up in essex, the beneficiary of a middle class upbringing upbringing. the son of hardworking pakistani parents, but he didn't feel at home and had no other place to call home. no community to call his. he read for us what he wrote after seeing the towers fall. >> do you think we would be crying like you are now for years? do you think we felt no pain and bombed our cities. what cities you ask? your arrogance is only compounded by your ignorance. you chose your side and we have
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chosen ours. the world of islam is under constant and brutal attack from the west. muslims had to fight back. the chosen army was a radical group. the day before 9/11 he landed in egypt to recruit which in in some ways was a forerunner to isis. >> it's the first in the organization responsible for popularizing the notion of resurrecting the so-called islamic state. the caliphate is what he has been dreaming of since 1953. >> the trigger was a muslim slaughter he saw every night on tv. every morning in the papers. the jen size in bossnia. it made him perfect for the
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local recruiter. >> i was prepared to die for it. >> >> in the months after 9/11 he was arrested in an egyptian jail with what he called the cream of the crop of jihadists, he was thrilled at first about all he could learn from them but then he had a jailhouse revelation. >> living close to them, i came to the conclusion that if these guys ever of them got to power and ever declared the so-called caliphate it would be hell on earth. it would be a living nightmare. >> recently his journey almost took him from prison to parliament. he ran for a seat in this year's british elections. he's currently the chairman of a thinktank he co-founded to study ex-tremeism and challenge it.
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>> people that join isil think they're bringing about an end of day scenario and genuinely believe they are working on behalf of god. >> his story sheds light on one crucial aspect of this picture. but what about the others? why are hundreds thousands of people streaming from four corners of the world to fight for isis? thomas friedman has a simple explanation. >> none of them ever held jobs power, or a girl's hand. and when you put large numbers of young males together and you offer them a wife a salary and the ability to lord over someone else that's isis' proposition. >> next on "blindsided," is isis a threat to the united states
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>> you've heard so much and seen so much about isis that it's easy to get anxious. it's trying to scare you and confuse you. with that caveat let me offer a free tentative thoughts about the group. isis is clearly about religion and about its version of radical islam. but it is also about power. there's increasing evidence that the military backbone of isis is made up not by a group of islamic zellists but high ranking officers from saddam hussein's army baathists who are secular. isis presents itself as a global organization but it has thrived because of a local cause. the group has gained territory, cash and recruits primarily because of the rage and rebellion of the sunnis of iraq and syria. that sunni cause is going to endure for some time. the sunnis of the region will remain in rebellion.
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the sunni dominated areas will remain in turmoil and isis will be able to capitalize on this chaos. in the long run, isis might find its greatest foes lie within its so-called caliphate. the few reports that are emerging from areas controlled by isis suggests that people do not like living under a brutal dictatorship. they have allure in the abstract but once they are actually governing in the mid evil the disenchantment builds and ever increasing repression. no one voted isis into power anywhere. they slaughter their way to victory. is isis a threat to the west? the group's leaders declare that it is every day but their ambitions are centered on their arab enemies, on building a caliphate in iraq and syria. they are opportunists and they
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ask and hope that their followers would act in america but their main focus is not to come here. they want americans to go there. no matter how one rates the level of the threat isis poses, the group has changed the nature of terror. the leaders are isis have recognized that above all they are a messaging machine which in turns becomes a recruitment machine. their grusesome videos would seem a turnoff and are to most people but they work on the web. the shock and awe they produce makes them go viral and thus are seen by tens of millions. that ensures that these videos attract those utterly alienated young men, a few thousand among the world's 1.6 billion muslims who seek revenge, glory and gore and as long as those young muslim men scattered across the globe are attracted to isis and
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stream to its cause, the group presents the world with a danger that's impossible to fully assess and a danger that grows by the month. hello, everyone. thanks so much for joining me. i'm fredricka whitfield. we begin with this breaking news out of greece. polls are new closed and we're getting the first early results on the greek referendum. at issue, if greece should accept financial help from europe. tens of thousands of greeks have taken to the streets on both sides of the vote as the country slips closer to the edge of collapse. so far we're seeing early results leaning toward the no side but again it is still very early.