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thank you for joining us. be sure to set your dvr to record out front. watch us any time, anywhere. back here tomorrow night same time. and "ac 360" starts now. thank you for joining us. a lot to get to two hours on the air. tonight for the very first time after so many allegations from so many women, we can report that bill cosby himself has admitteded to obtaining drugs, drugs known for erasing memory for women he intended to have sex with. knowledge of the admission comes not from sources however reliable they may be but from mr. cosby himself from records of testimony he himself gave in a case he settled out of court which we have just now obtained. randi kaye has been reading the documents and joins us now with details. randi what have you learned? >> what we are learning tonight. bill cosby testified in 2005 he
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got quaalue with the intent of giving them to young will hen wanted to have sex with. not only that but he admitted giving the sedative to one woman and other people according to these court documents weep just gotjust -- we just got. cosby is asked when you got the quaaludes was it in your mind you were going to use the quaaludes for young women you wanted to have sex with? his response is this yes, period. >> where exactly are the documents coming from? >> they come from testimony just unsealed, ap associated press pushed the court to release the documents though the ap says cosby's lawyers fought it. the testimony of cosby under oath, i want to point out, related to a lawsuit formed by former temple university employee, she want to police telling that cosby. the district attorney did not bring charges. later he explained that she waited for a year before going to authority. that hurt her case.
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he wanted to go forward, because she waited so long he lost the ability to test her blood for intoxicating agents and figure out if she had been drugged. tonight we know from the court documents, the 77-year-old comedian testified and admitted all those years ago he gave employee, three half pills of benadryl. we can see from the testimony that her lawyers didn't buy that. he also admitted in the testimony to wanting to use quaaludes to getting women to have sex with him. the documents show on the night in question, cosby offered her three blue pills, saying "i have three friend for you to make you relax." her lawyers argue in the court documents. benadryl as cosby claimed it was would not create the immobilization effect. cosby did settle the lawsuit for an undisclosed term in 2006. >> as we noted a few seconds ago this does fit into the narrative of other past allegations? >> absolutely it does.
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cosby has been accused by more than two dozen women of sexual misconduct. many allege that he drugged and raped them in cases dating back four decades. here is just a sampling of what some of the women have said. >> i never saw any drugs. but i would wake up completely confused, half dressed. and knowing that my body had been touched without my permission. >> we went up to his -- bungalow afterwards. he made me a drink. very shortly after that i just, i palgs i passed out. i woke up or came to very grogily with him removing my underwear. >> he had gone from helping me to groping me kissing me touching me handling me. and you know taking off my clothes. >> has cosby ever talked about these recent allegations? >> sort of. back in 2005 andersen he toeltdld
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the "national enquirer" this i am not going to give into people who try to exploit me because of my celebrity status. cosby has never been criminally charged. for most accusations statute of limitations has run out. >> randi, appreciate it. >> attorney legal affairs commentator, and a medicine specialist, host of "dr. drew on call." drew pinski? >> is this proof bill cosby is proof of what some of his many accusers said he did to them? >> absolutely. he makes an admission under oath. it is really important to put the context here. he was being deposed because he was being sued civilly by some one who said that he gave her a drug and then he raped her. and under this you know under oath statement he makes an admission. which is why when you look at his lawyer's argument about why the documents should not have come out. are really laughable. they said this would embarrass
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bill cosby. the judge said why would he be embarrassed by giving his own account of what he did. i think this is vindication for two dozen women who said something similar happened to them. he can no longer continue to hide behind the denials the denials, the denials. >> dr. drew first let's talk about medically. quaaludes, what do they do to a person? >> very much like what the women describe. they cause, sud earnden intoxication sleep, and also causes a, let's call the a flopiness. people aren't sort of unable to propagate through the world. their muscles become so severely limp they almost can't lift their limbs up and come to their own defense. as you notice some of the women describe that kind of thing, consistent with quaaludes. >> does it make sense to you, dr. drew, if somebody's motivation for giving somebody's quaaludes is it to incapacitate them to be able to sexually assault them without their permission or without even asking? or is it some sort of interest
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where he wants to have sex with somebody who is incapacitated? >> there is such a thing, there is actually a fetore erish of having sex with people who are aslechltep. you don't know if it is. whatever it is the same phenomenon. you mention in the tapes the women said they don't remember anything. quaaludes can cause memory problems especially when combine with alcohol. many people report their really lose their ability to recall what happened. >> areva, this deposition was for a civil suit. could it not have been used against him in a criminal case? >> that's what's puzzling. when we hear that a victim went forward and filed a claim with the district attorney in philadelphia, there was not enough evidence, she waited more than a year. we have the admission made in the deposition testimony. you have to wonder did that district attorney drop the ball? did something go terribly wrong with the prosecution? you have an admission what more
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would a prosecutor need to go forward with charging someone? so i think this is a case that someone needs to go back and re-evaluate and figure out how come there weren't criminal charges brought against him since apparently the statute of limitations had not run in this case. >> dr. drew when you add miss to all of the accusations out there again, dozens and dozens does it fall in line with the behavior of some sort of serial sexual assaulter? >> i personally have never seen anything like this. yeah, if you remember there is all this footage of him talking about men being preoccupied with being able to find some magic pill that made women sort of aroused where they can't say no. it's weird that he brought that up a few times in a few of his interviews. i remember thinking when i saw those interviews, no, most men do not preoccupy about that. this is some sort of preoccupation. this is not a way of explaining or dismissing what he did, my understanding is he had a very
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traumatic childhood alluded to here and here. would be interesting to know what happened to him growing up. may be some insight to what we are seeing created in the present. >> lot's just be frank here a lot of people have traumatic childhoods and don't end up doing this kind of thing. >> absolutely. this is not dismissing. it is so hard to get your head around. how could this man do this? what is this all about? the average, normal person cannot understand what this is. i can't understand what this is. so i, need to understand what kind of circumstance might have set this up. i don't know. but it is something that i have never seen. it's really something astonishing and awful. >> i want to bring in legal analyst criminal defense atopper o'mara what do you make of this deposition? >> it happened ten years ago. now finally coming out, the truth is coming out after the on going denials of six, eight months. what areva said a moment ago about reopening the criminal case. not sure it will be that easy to do. i have to believe the prosecutor
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ten years ago did not have this information available to him or her because it was part of a confidential settlement i am sure part of it was she would not cooperate or go forward with cooperating testimony with the prosecutor. >> you can make that part of a confidential settlement between two people? >> you sort of can. you are not supposed you are not supposed to interfere with the proper administration of justice and convincing a victim of a crime not to testify might be argument of obstruction of justice. but in confidential negotiations this does happen where people you buy silence. and i think that's what happened ten years age. >> i want to talk about this more. we have to take a quick break. stick around. as always, quick reminder set your dvr, watch 360 when you want. coming up next another woman says bill cosby raped her. and donald trump adopting a woman's killing by undocumented immigrant, as a political cause, and doubled down about what he
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roofies. part of a case he settled with one of his accusers. joining us another accuser, patty maston, a picture of her with bill cosby. encountered mr. cosby in 1979 a manager at the playboy club in chicago. patty thank you for joining us.your's -- you're welcome. your reaction to what bill cosby admitted under cross-examination? >> complete validation. >> to you it tells the story of what happened to lots of women? >> to me and many of us. my facebook has been lighting up all afternoon. and i can tell you, anderson that there is more women coming out now. >> really? >> yeah absolutely. absolutely. >> till meell me a little bit about what happened to you. you met him in 1979? >> i was a playboy bunny in great gorge. and bill cosby was on the playboy circuit. he performed in all of the clubs. i knew him five years even before this situation happened.
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i was in chicago as the bunny director, bunny mother they called it. he was being interviewed by maggie daly a famous columnist at "the trib" at the time. after he asked me if i wanted to have lunch. again, i knew him for five years. we had lunch at banquet on a bun. later that afternoon he called me on a private number in my office, i didn't understand how he got that number. but he asked me if i wanted to have dinner the next night. i said sure. he called me that afternoon and said well meet me at the whitehall hotel. so i didn't think anything of it. he was in town doing a comedy show. doing interviews. i met him at the whitehall, i called from downstairs. he said come up to this particular suite. when i went up to the room there were four other men in the room. they were playing cards and smoking cigars. and watching sports. and cosby asked me if i wanted to have a drink. it was 7:30 in the evening. i wasn't much of a drinker.
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i said, well i will have a little grand marnier. that is an after dinner drink. you can tell what a novice i was. sent the bellman out to get the bottle. brought the bottle up. fixed the drink behind me. i took two sips. last thing i remember. two sips. >> really? >> at 4:00 in the morning i woke up in bed, naked, bruised and battered. and i looked over and he was there naked. and i slivered out of the bed. i didn't want to wake him. i gathered my clothes. and i got dressed. and i went downstairs. i got a cab. went to my apartment. took a shower. i had to go back to work at playboy had to get the girls on the floor. and i went back to work. >> do you have a memory of what happened between that drink? >> i don't have any memory of what happened. but i knew. i knew that i was brutally raped. i knew it. >> and you -- he reached out to you the next day i understand?
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>> yes, she'd why did you leave so early? i was so startled by that conversation. i said i had to go back to work. so he says well i am sending you a gift. about four hours later, a 4-foot ficus tree shows uppen my office enin my office. you have to groom this tree look you do our friendship, cut the leaves, prune it, big dissertation how to take care of this plant. and naturally i threw it out. he kept calling and calling. i guess he finally got the message that i wasn't going to see him again. and then he kept calling and asking for different bunnies. can i have bunny michelle? bunny this? bunny that? kept writing notes down and throwing them out. i refused to give them to my girls. >> what made you finally come forward? >> what made me finally come forward, when i heard it was a 15-year-old he drugged and raped. a 15-year-old, anderson is a child. that is an innocent child.
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for this monster to rape a 15-year-old child and at playboy mansion. >> somebody else who later came forward? >> yes. after he raped me i told my bosses at playboy what he did to me. and playboy said to me well you know bill cosby is hefner's best friend, right? i said yes i know that. well nobody is going to believe you. i suggest you shut your mouth. >> that's what you were told? >> that's what i was told. >> the fact now that he had testified that he did in fact give quaaludes in the '70s, multiple prescriptions, you feel it is complete vindication? >> absolutely. >> and do you think -- >> it's the tip of the iceberg. it's the tip of the iceberg. trust me when i till you my facebook is blowing up. i work with hundreds and hundreds of playboy bunnies. it's blowing up right now. >> from people who used to be playboy bunnies.
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back with patty maston one of bill cosby's many accusers. right before the break not only were you recounted what happened to you in 1979 but also you said you were in touch with many women who worked for playboy who are reaching out to you saying they had similar experiences. are these people who have not yet come forward publicly? >> there are many who haven't come forward. >> really? >> we're up to 48 who have come forward, 48 women. there is probably another 50 that are jane does. >> really you believe? >> i know. i know. i know. and there is my facebook is lighting up. we have private facebook pages just for playboy bunnies only. and it's light up. he did me too. he's coming out. it's happening. >> why do you think somebody would drug this was a guy who,
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at the time was at the height of his fame. probably not even at the height of his fame. incredibly popular. incredibly well-liked. could have probably met women. do you think this was something he particularly liked to do the drugging aspect? >> he is a sociopath. they have no remorse. they don't have feelings about people. they don't have any feelings at all. if he wanted to have sex, believe me he could have had sex with anybody at any time. he was a very wealthy man, a celebrity. especially up at hefner's mansion. there are enough girls that hung around there he could have easily had sex with. but to drug a person and then to violate them like that that's a sociopath. he he will definitely be known as the most prolific serial rapist in the united states of america. no doubt. dr. huxtabul will be. >> you believe more women will come forward? >> i know. i know they will. >> patty, appreciate you being
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on. >> my pleasure. >> back with dr. drew pinski and o'mara. dr. drew, what do you make of what patty has just said? >> well it is breathtaking when you hear her state the allegations and lay it out the way she has. she could be right. that is certainly a possibility. if if what she is saying is accurate she will be proven to be right. i found it interesting that she had only two sips of the grand marnier with the quaaludes allegedly in it. she may have forgotten what happened after the initial dose. people's memory gets erased moving forward. she may have eventually drunk more than she remembers. but in any case even to have induced that degree of memory problem that quickly suggests that he put rather high concentrations, potentially dangerous concentrations you. can easily overdose on a quaalude. not a safe medication. i'm surprised somebody wasn't really hurt. >> areva, you point out in the lawsuit the plaintiff's legal
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team had to petition the judge to answer questions. is that normal? >> very normal in a case of this nature. where you have a high profile individual like bill cosby. the deposition is likely to be very contentious. lots of objections being made by both side. when they got to the really difficult questions about the drugs and giving the women drugs and whether the women knew they were taking drugs bill kotz becosby's attorney refused to let him answer, the attorney had to go into court get an order compelling him to respond. something very important your guest said the concept that people not believing that bill cosby would do this. what we heard time and time again from all the women, when they tried to come forward people didn't believe them. even when we think of the lawsuit and the privacy clause the private settlement agreement, sometimes women have to file civil suits because when they go to the criminal justice system they're not believed and the cases are very very difficult to prosecute. i don't want to give the
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impression that women are selling these lawsuits or filing them just to get money. these are very difficult cases for women to come forward with and then for prosecutors to file and to prove against offenders like bill cosby. >> if i could interrupt you. it is indicting what she said about how we have treated women, a historical element. if we still treat women look this, shame on us. in 1979 she steps forward to her boss, i've been raped, and he says shutup. a historical note that need to be taken seriously. the feminist literature should get ahold of that. >> mark could this affect more civil suits against bill cosby? the statute of limitations for most of these, you know for most of these incidents, most of these crimes, alleged crimes has expired? >> that's the problem. most of the crimes statute of limitation long since run. nothing individual states are going to be able to do against
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him. sichl lar for civil lawsuits they have statute of limitations very few exceptions when you intentionally hide information. it is very difficult, and though this is all coming out now, we get an insight into sort of the psychopathy of what seems to be gathering evidence of a serial rapist it may be that he is only tried in the court of public opinion because there is not many courts that still have jurisdiction over him. >> could i just say this? >> go ahead, areva. >> i agree with mark. the importance of this is more women will be empowered to come forward, knowing he has gone on record and admitted he raped and drugged women. we may get some cases not barred by statute of limitations. >> dr. drew pinski areva. the undocumented immigrant accused of shooting and killing a woman in san francisco just been charged. donald trump doubling down on his remarks many found offensive. he issued a new statement on the killing. appears to be trying to make a political point about what happened. a young woman shot dead while
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breaking news -- random and totally senseless shooting death of a woman along san francisco's waterfront. the man who admits to killing her illegal immigrant from mexico entered the country and been deported many times formally charged in her death. francisco sanchez charged with murdering katherine steinle. he will be arraigned tomorrow. katherine's killing focused attention on the public policy and her case taken up by donald trump. in a moment the breaking news on that. doubling down on his statements. also tonight i will talk to the victim any brother about his sister and her life. but first the full story. >> reporter: a father reacts to the searing pain of losing a loving daughter at the hands of a stranger. >> this is evil. evil personified. >> jim and his daughter kathryn steinle were taking a picture on
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the pier. at the same time juan francisco sanchez, fired a gun he says found wrapped in a t-shirt in the dumpster. >> did you shoot kate steinle the woman on the pier. >> yes. >> you did? >> yes. >> reporter: the shooting he said was an accident but the killing sparked debate over immigration reform. an undocumented immigrant deported from the u.s. five times it would have been six but his case got caught in the local/federal fight. from a lay person's standpoint looking at this it looks like san francisco sheriff's department messed up here what do you say to that? >> you are completely wrong about that. as sheriff i adhere to the laws that govern our land. and san francisco is not alone. in fact well over 300 municipalities have similar laws like san francisco because what has not been reconciled on the federal level, local government
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and state governments are devising new laws that help direct the relationship about i.c.e. what is troubling is that this word detainer that i.c.e. is putting out there that they asked our department they have known for a long time that what we require in san francisco like the 299 plus other cities is that we need a lawful court order and warrants or a courted or that helps the transference of somebody in our custody to i.c.e. this has been in practice quite some time. >> reporter: lopez sanchez just in federal prison and would have been put in depr tags proceedings but because of a decades old outstanding warrant in san francisco immigration and customs enforcement handed him over to local authorities. but san francisco declined to prosecute the old drug case and the sheriff's department let him go free. even though immigration officials had asked san francisco sheriff's department to notify them if he was to be
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released. but they did not. do you feel at all any guilt or responsibility for this? >> i feel horrible about this. this is absolutely horrible. a senseless tragedy. and i think it really does spotlight the fragmentation of how law exists between a local state and federal level and how it is completely sort of patchworked around the country. but you can't deny that over 300 cities now in a very short period of time adopted laws like san francisco need something not working on federal level. >> reporter: the reason the sheriff's department declined to notify i.c.e. because san francisco is a sanctuary city. if the won't hand over nonviolent undocumented people without a court order. but famently wants nothing to do with the political debate saying their sole focus is on reminding the world of what a wonderful person steinle was. >> it is not going to bring kate back, again finding the guy and whatever, the justice will work
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its way through the system. but our focus is on kate. >> we are joined now, the shooter told a local station he intentionally came back to san francisco because it is a so-called sanctuary city right? >> that's exactly right. that heightened the frustration that people have with this case. the anger, the outrage. the fact he had been deported five times and he had come back here knowing that he would not necessarily be deported again if picked up by local authorities. >> sara sidner. thank you. we'll talk to kathryn steinle's brother about his sister. not only has donald trump latched on to the tragedy and doubled down on remarks. he is facing new consequences of what he said. espn said it will be moving the celebrity golf tournament from a trump course to a different property. the reason, the remarks about illegal immigrants from mexico. this evening he put out a
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statement or to be precise. a restatement. it read in part what could be simpler. the mexican government is forcing their most unwanted people into the united states. they're in many cases criminals, drug dealers, rapists, et cetera. the reporter has been reporting the story with the political fallout. he joins us with more. >> the fact that donald trump is pointing to the tragedy in san francisco to underscore his argument on immigration doubling down with the new statement. of what impact do you think that has on the campaign? >> he did double down. released a statement tonight saying pointing to this exact shooting. he said there are thousands of these incidents across the country a year. that is exactly how donald trump gets in trouble. that's almost certainly an exaggeration and overstatement here. and that is what worries republicans. he is sort of a loose cannon in their view on some of the issues here. they believe that he is not going to stop talking abut this. and all this comes, politically speaking, with the first republican presidential debate only a month away.
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that's why they thing it is a political problem. >> there is also others who will point to him e andand say, forget about the politics the decency of this, they believe it is maybe inappropriate. this is a tragedy for this family for anybody who knew this woman. and he runs the risk of seeming to try to be scoring some political points off it or make a political point based on on a human tragedy. >> i think he runs the risk and in fact crossed the line. a lot of people would say. wlen when there are tragedies that occur. presidential candidates often comment on them not in a way like this i am not sure i can remember something so quickly being seized on in the middle of a political debate. we frankly, the tragedy in san francisco has very little to do with what he was saying overall in this speech. he was trying to seize on to it as kind of you know, amplify his point here. i am not sure that you know that most voters would sort of
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like that. george pataki former governor of new york knows him well. said it was outrageous that they connected the two. i think he may have crossed the line here by blurring the two, use. >> itch youawe if you look at iowa new new hampshire, they're not states with huge latino populations. worried about the general election. that is not donald trump's calculation at this point. >> you're right. his calculation is a peeling to some members of the conservative base. some so fed up on immigration. a lot of the people are in the early states. iowa had a very complicated immigration debate going on. complicated in the sense that some republicans thinks it is too harsh. same in south carolina. republicans are worried about the general election debate here. there is no path to republicans winning the white house if they do not get a bigger share of the hispanic vote. and it's comments like this that worry party leaders and elder that will block them.
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>> jeff thank you. >> thank you anderson. let's "dig deeper" with an adviser to gop candidates jeb bush supporter and sheriff of pinal county arizona kidding a considering a run for congress next year. >> when donald trump says this is what i am talking about, the system is broken the guy should not have been in the country. don't the gop candidates have to agree if they like it or not? >> i don't think so. i don't think any body feels compelled to agree with donald trump. most of the gop candidates. serious ones see hem as a carnival barker, they dent see himsee -- they don't see him as a genuine candidate. it has taken. >> he is up in the polls? >> yeah, part of it name id. celebrity status the fact that people like the spectacle and reality show that he is bringing to politics. so i don't think they you know they have to agree. i think george pataki is right.
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it's, a lot of people are going to see it as exploiting a tragedy and we should focus on where the system this woman. where the system failed the citizens of san francisco. and letting this man out on the street. but let's not exploit it for political purposes. >> sheriff, you're in law enforcement, politician republican, going to run for office. what do you make of what donald trump has been saying? >> well he is talking about a very real issue. it isn't just san francisco's problem. this america's problem. and there isn't a state that's not affected by the criminal element of the those that are here. >> are the people you are seeing coming across the borders rapists? >> there are some. he he paints with two wide of a brush here. i don't agree with his comments. to make that clear. 30% of the 400,000 residents of my county are hispanic. many of them of mexican descent, good, decent hard working
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americans. yet there are thousands of criminal illegals that are released every year. 30000 last year alone. and that's what i think he is tapping into this anger for americans. because you and i have to follow the law. but there are 193 convicted murderers who are not from america who were released into our communities. 400 that were convicted of rape and sexual assault. 300 convicted of kidnapping. and when it appears, and it is very real there is a lack of consequence or punishment what do we think is going to happen? you didn't have to be the sheriff to figure out that these people are going to commit serious crimes again and again. and against american citizens. and so even though i've don't agree with him. he is tapping into this anger that exists because of the failures in our system when we have to follow and abide by law but it appears that there is no law when it comes to illegal immigration certainly when it comes to these most dangerous
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criminals. here you even have i.c.e. out attacking san francisco for this. i'm shocked that they're so outraged. and i'm glad that they are. >> anna, you hear what the sheriff is saying. maybe donald trump isn't the right person painting with too broad a brush, tougher border security, law enforcement, penalties that's part of it right? >> and i think people are having that converstion. people who are advocates for immigration reform all talk about having zero tolerance for illegal aliens undocumented immigrants who come here and commit crimes. the problem here is this guy had seven felonies and they let him loose without turning him over to i.c.e. that really defies logic and i think that san francisco's bleeding heart liberalism and compassion just went too far in this case and the system is broken. definitely. definitely. look i am an immigrant to this country. i can tell you, yes, there are some people who are bad apples in every single group, every single ethnicity nationality,
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race, et cetera. we just saw this weekend, what 40-some shootings in chicago. almost 10 deaths in chicago over the weekend. those were not immigrants committing it. there is bad apples and good people in every group. that being said yes, we have to address the border. yes, we have to address the fact that if you come here as an immigrant, you come to this country, and you turn around and you commit crimes there should be no tolerance and no welcome mat for you. >> done aldald trump said we need a great wall at the u.s./mexico border, he'll make mexico build it how realistic is it to build a wall across the border. people have been trying to build walls. billions have been spent on border security. is that feasible? >> one, i don't add vevocate for that. combat engineer officer, i helped build border fence south
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of san doing. not all 2,000 miles need a fence. we are not building great wall of mexico. we need 700 miles of the barrier onmined historic struggling corridors. we need the technology to complement it, cameras, infrared, lighting sensors. far more important of the fence or technology i mentioned enforcement of the law. laws that exist that literally have just been with the wave of the hand that's why we are arresting in my county people who are committing crimes in my state, that have been deported eight times. 15 times. heck, last month we arrest aid guy that almost proudly proclaimed he has been deported 20 times. and so don't scratch your head trying to figure this out why they keep coming back i'm talking the criminals because there is a lack of consequence. what do we think is going to happen? >> sheriff, appreciate you being on again. thank you always. >> thank you. >> a quick political note -- the
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we have been reporting a political fallout from the killing in san francisco because one of the leading presidential hopefuls doptd itadopted it as a talking point the risk seeing it through only that kind of lens. the clearest view of what happened on the pier comes from those who knew and loved the victim. kathryn steinle. and will love her for the rest of their lives. joining us by phone her brother brad. brad, so sorry for your loss i cannot imagine what these last few days have been like for you and your family. can you just talk to me a little bit about kathryn what kind of person she was and is? >> my sister she was my best friend. she was a person i called for advice. she was the most amazing, outgoing, loving person.
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and i was lucky enough to have her as my sister for 32 years. and we're devastated. we're lost. but we want her memory and the love and her soul to live on. she was a very strong person shech traveled the world.-- she traveled the world. she lived in italy for a year. traveled to africa china, all over europe. and you know she posted something on her facebook the day before she died. that said whatever is good for your soul do that. and that's how kate lived. and weep just want to spread that message. at a time like this it is easy for some for us it would be
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easy for us to hate and be angry. but kate wouldn't want that. so we're just -- we're freeingtrying to spread a message of love &andlove. that's what kate would want. >> that is an incredibly hard thing to do i imagine at a time like this to not be angry to not feel hate? >> yeah, yeah. i mean in my wildest dreams i could never imagine having this conversation. and if you had asked me a month ago if i would be angry at somebody who killed my sister sure i would tell you yes. but the unthinkable has happened and we're focusing on the good. because kate was a good person. she was a great person.
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and you know the circumstances are horrible and we have lost a person we cherish more than anything. but all i feel now is love and thankful that i had the time that i had with her because she was the most amazing sister. if i was able to talk to kate right now she would say, hey, brad, it's okay. just spread my memory and spread love and i know that would make her smile. >> i know we're not going to talk about any politics or how this has become a larger issue because i really want to just focus this on on your sister and i imagine part of your concern is that who she is will get lost in all of that. i read a story that your neighbor told about her coming over to his house when she was
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little to give flowers to her daughter, his daughter who had broken his arm. it sound like that's the kind of thing she did a lot? >> yeah yeah kate had the biggest heart. kate called my mom a couple months ago. she called my mom daily. said to my mom, hey, mom rg i, i hope you are not mad at me. that jacket you got me a couple weeks age i was out to dinner in san francisco and saw a homeless person, had a t-shirt on. it was super cold outside. i gave it away. you might need to buy me a new jacket. and that's that's just how kate was. you know in the worst time in the worst imaginable of circumstances we are all staying strong because we have so much love for kate. this its whats what she would want. this is what we are giving her
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in her memory. >> brad i appreciate you talking to us tonight and telling us a little bit about your sister thauvenlgt so much. thank you. >> thank you. >> kate's family set up a gofundme page in her memory and below me on our own website. up next a live hour of 360 including the latest on the breaking news. newly unsealed documents showing bill cosby testified ten years ago about getting drugs to give to women he wanted to have sex with. so what else can you give me? same day delivery. the ottoman? thank you. fico scores are used in 90% of credit decisions. so get your credit swagger on. go to experian.com become a member of experian credit tracker and take charge of your score. ♪ ♪ ♪ (vo) making the most out of
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good evening. thank you for joining us. 9:00 p.m. in new york the a whole new chapter for the many accusers of bill cosby. to night what one of the accusers is calling validation. that's because for the very first time after so many allegations from so many women, we can report that bill cosby himself admitted to obtaining drugs, drugs known for erasing memory, for women we intendd to have sex with. knowledge comes from mr. cosby himself from records of testimony he gave in a case he settled out of court. record that we have just now obtained. randi kaye reading them and joins us with late-breaking details. what have you learned? >> reporter: we are learning bill cosby testified in 2005 he got quaaludes with intent of giving them to young women he wanted to have sex with. not only that he admitted givin
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