good evening. thank you for joining us. 9:00 p.m. in new york the a whole new chapter for the many accusers of bill cosby. to night what one of the accusers is calling validation. that's because for the very first time after so many allegations from so many women, we can report that bill cosby himself admitted to obtaining drugs, drugs known for erasing memory, for women we intendd to have sex with. knowledge comes from mr. cosby himself from records of testimony he gave in a case he settled out of court. record that we have just now obtained. randi kaye reading them and joins us with late-breaking details. what have you learned? >> reporter: we are learning bill cosby testified in 2005 he got quaaludes with intent of giving them to young women he wanted to have sex with. not only that he admitted giving the sedative to one woman and

other people according to court documents we got. here's what the court documents say cosby is asked "when you got the quaaludes was it in your mind you were going to use the quaaludes for young women you wanted to have sex with?" and his response is this "yes." >> where are the documents coming from? >> they're coming from testimony just unsealed. the associated press pushed the court to release the documents though cosby's lawyers had been fighting it. testimony is cosby under oath i should point out related to a lawsuit filed by a former temple university employee. she went to police saying cosby drugged and molested her in 2004. the distrack itict attorney did not bring charges later explaning, the victim wait aid year before going to authorities. he wanted to go forward. but because she waited so long he lost the ability to test her blood for the intoxicating agent and figure out if she had been

drugged. the da told cnn he believed cosby was evasive in his interview. cosby's attorney called allegations preposterous at the time. tonight, we know from the new court documents that the 77-year-old comedian testified and admitted all the years ago he gave the employee three half pills of benadryl. we can see from the testimony that her lawyers did not buy that at all. since he had also admitted in the same testimony to wanting to use quaaludes to get will tune have sex with him. documents show on the night in question, cosby admits he offered andrea constan three blue pills, herbal medication saying quote, i have three friends to make relax. lawyers are gau thatgue that benadryl would not create an almost immobilization effect. cosby settled the suit for undisclosed term in 2006. awe as we mentioned a second ago

this does fit into the narrative of other past allegations? >> oh absolutely it does. cosby has been accused by more than two dozen women of sexual misconduct. many alleged he drugged and raped them in cases dating back more than four decades. here is just a sampling of what some women have said. >> i never saw any drugs. but i would wake up completely confused, half dressed. knowing that my body had been touched without my permission. >> we went up to his bungalow afterwards. he made me a drink. and very shortly after that i just, i passed out. i woke up or came to very groggily with him removing my underwear. >> has cosby talked about these recent allegations? >> sort of. in 2005 he told the "national enquirer" i am not going to give

into people that try to exploit me because of celebrity status. cosby has never been criminally charged. for most of the accusations the statute of limitations has run out. >> joining me on the phone former pennsylvania district attorney bruce caster who randi mentioned he decided not to prosecute bill cosby on sexual assault allegations in 2005. thank you for joining us. the testimony of cosby from 200 he had gotten quaaludes for intention of using them on young women he wanted to have sex with. were you aware of those comments02005? >> no. the first time i am hearing it. i had a guess last week when the judge had question as but the unsealing proceeding there might be incriminating things in there. this is the first i am hearing it. i saw it, now on the news today. >> obviously that is an important point. because the woman who was, he was testifying about in the

lawsuit of andrea constant, you interviewed her, you believed her, but, but she her recollection was, was not precise and you felt there wasn't enough to actually bring charges on. would it have made a difference if you had known about what cosby admitted to in this deposition? >> it would have been helpful but probably still would have required to us have something more because under pennsylvania law you have to be able to independently prove a crime occurred before you can use a statement made by a suspect against them. that's called the corpus delecti rule, to keep people from walking into police stations on a cold winter day, saying "i murdered so and so and unsolved having them sit in prison when they really didn't." if i had had what andrea said

which was imprecise i had cosby admitting it i would have looked for something else. and i mean what you really want would be a blood test that had, metabolites of the drug in here or something like that. any piece of circumstantial evidence to bring it over the top. the way you analyze whether those statements are admissible. you take everything you have without them is there enough that a crime probably occurred? if yes, then you can use the statements. if no you have to keep digging. >> she had waited a year before going to police. obviously anything that had been in her system immediately after what happened to her would have no longer been in her system. of the three women who testified in this case that the deposition is from at least two of them said they had knowingly been given quaaludes, correct? >> you are asking me? >> yeah i'm so, i thought you

read it. yes, we know they had said they knowingly done this. did andrea constant who brought the case against cosby, do you know if she said she took the quaaludes willingly when she talked to you? >> no. she never said she took quaaludes to us. i think my recollection is that she said that she was given some cold medicine or something like that but not any quaaludes. she dentidn't admit to anything like that. and the, you know the -- i heard that in the preamble that these were statements under oath. he of course would not have to give those statements had i not publicly cleared him saying that he would not be prosecuted because the 5th amendment would have allowed him to shield himself from incrimination until such time as i removed the possibility of prosecution. once i did that he is now required to answer those

questions. at the time i made the decision not to prosecute him, i knew this opportunity would present itself in the case. i knew he would have to answer questions under oath that he didn't have to answer me. >> that's interesting. i had not realized that. bruce castor appreciate you being here tonight. a lot more to talk with o'mara danny sevalis, and sunny hostin former federal prosecutor joining us on the phone. what is your take of what mr. castor had to say and the revelations bill cosby gave in this deposition? >> well it certainly is one of the frustrations, anderson, that we have as prosecuors. it is often times not what happened but what you can prove. i think what we heard from mr. castor was, he suspected that she was telling the truth. often times you know that someone is telling the truth. but you have got to prove it up. prove it up with blood evidence. you have to prove it up with

testimony. you have got to prove it up. he was incapable of doing that. i do think now that cosby under oath admitted these things told his own story. i do think it gives a lot of credence to all the women that have been saying for years that he drugged them and that he sexually assaulted them. let's talk about quaaludes. quaaludes are depressants. used for insomnia. they knock you out. so if you are buying or or getting quaaludes as bill cosby was for the reasons, for the sole reason to have sex with other women he wanted to knock these women out. and if he pairs it with alcohol, we are talking about not only a very dangerous thing that he did we're talking about a criminal thing that he did. and i hope that those that cast apersian aspersions on all those women,

called them liar have a long long look and perhaps apologize to these women who had the braverly to come forward and admit and talk about the things that he did to them. >> mark it is interesting in the deposition. he talked about getting a number of prescriptions for quaaludes in the 70s when quaaludes were available in the united states. to my knowledge they're no longer available in the united states. and he was asked whether he kept those quaaludes until 2005 with andrea constant that was objected to by attorneys, and i don't believe that question was answered. i am not clear if he still had quaaludes in the mid 2001s, if he got them overseas you can still get them overseas or perhaps it was true he was using something else? >> i think what her attorneys were trying to get to was the fact that he may well have had the quaaludes he said he had prescriptions for in the '70s in 2005. don't think that was relevant or

necessary. we oeveneven know in 2005 you can get depressants or over the counter drugs to knock people out. they were trying to make a connection it was obviously hiqç drug. his legacy is seemingly going to be one of a serial rapist. now that this one admission has come out, we call it similar fact evidence. what it really does is lend an enormous amount of credibility to all those other victims who have come forward and complained about his actions. >> danny do you see this as the smoking gun missing in all the allegations that have come out against cosby to hear it from himself, saying yeah i used quaaludes in the past? i mean because now there is also civil lawsuits not just about the incidents bought bout some of the defense that cosby's spokespeople gave citing you know, basically kind of tossing these women aside saying they're lying. defamation lawsuits. >> it looks really bad for cosby. i would expect to play devil's

add ve catvocate on cosby's side this is him admitting to wreck reaegsrecreational drug use, that has fallen out of public consciousness. but my understanding back in the day it was a drug used when people would drink have fun, party, whatever. but i think today if the same testimony was hey i gave her an ambien or something we are more familiar with we might be more shocked. it's fascinating that he may have admitted in the deposition in his mind i was saying i use these drugs for recreation. using them recreationally with consent demonstrates highly riskly, very dangerous behavior. this is certainly bad for bill cosby. i have to believe he never expected it would see the light of day. because he mistakenly probably believed these record were sealed forever. and the law is actually the opposite of that.

sealing records is not the presumption in this jurs diktsisdiction where i practice. instead as time goes on. as two years passes they're supposed to be reviewed and that seal is supposed to be lifted. if there is no longer a good reason to keep them secret. i iffage in that the disclosure or possible disclosure of the sealed records must have come as a shock to this defendant, bill cosby. >> sunny, his attorneys were fighting the release of this. the attorney, the judge essentially said why are you fighting this this is his sworn testimony? why would he be embarrassed about what he swore to in a deposition? >> that's what is remarkable. under these federal court rules in pennsylvania. they can't unseal that after two years unless cosby could have shown specific harm. the argument he was making potential embarrassment, i could be very embarrassed by this the i am not really a public figure.

that's ridiculous. how are you embarrassed by your own account, your own admission. i think the judge did the right thing in ruling that any potential embarrassment is insufficient given the gravity, gravity of the allegations. let's remember we are not talking one woman coming forward or two women coming for war. we are talking about well over a dozen women coming forward. high profile women. women certainly that that have something to lose. again, i hope now that the public has this information and really hope that people that stood by him, the people that cast aspersions on these women take a good look at themselves. and i have been saying it from the beginning having prosecuted sex crimes it is rare for a woman to come forward and lie about a sexual assault. they don't want to put themselves out of there like this. >> the other question i had a

guest in the earlier hour who said that she was raped by bill cosby in 1979 she says she is in communication with other people yet to come forward. we will play that interview a little coming up. stick around everyone. i will take a short break. some of the accusers including the woman who says bill cosby raped her and her boss at the playboy club basically told her to stay quiet. she is talking. her story ahead. the outbreak of murder and mayhem over the weekend in chicago. why the parent of one young victim is actually not talking to police. if your son gets killed your 7-year-old gets killed. police say the father was the intended, intended victim. your child takes a bullet. and you don't talk to police about what you saw. so you can solve the murder of your your own son. we'll talk about that ahead. ows very shortly, sir. as you were... where were we?

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court documents revealing bill cosby's testimony under oath he obtained quaaludes to give to young women he intended to have sex with. follows a parade of sixableexual misconduct dating back decades. speaking to one of many women who say cosby drugged and assaulted them. >> reporter: new york city 18-year-old barbara bowman hoped she could find the acting career she dreamed of. with the backing of her agent and bill cosby's one of the country's biggest superstars she

thought she had a shot. >> i am going to prove it i have it in me. i am going to be the model actor model student. they were going to open those doors for me. >> reporter: open those doors she says as long as she played by their rules. >> i found myself in new york. and then under complete and utter control of him and my agent. i became very isolated. i was put into an apartment. and i was supposed to just very stay on the straight and narrow go straight to acting classes, come straight back. ♪ >> reporter: the rude awakening came here. bill cosby's manhattan brownstone. when's the last time you saw this? >> that night. >> reporter: she says cosby invited her over for what was supposed to be tutoring. >> i had one glass of wine.

went upstairs. started the acting exercise. and that was it. i -- i just remember putting the script down because i needed like i was feeling fuzzy, dizzy. it was like a lobotomy. where you are there, you are awake, but you are not there. you are vacant. and just the baffled state of mind. next thing i know i'm in the bathroom. and i am throwing up. >> reporter: bowman says she didn't know why she was throwing up. kotz be would tell her she drank too much. but she says she never even finished her glass of wine. so as i'm throwing up over the

toilet and he is right here and the robe is it's tied but it's open. the and the boxer shorts are open. and his penis is out. and brushing against my back. >> reporter: your panty are on you or off you? >> they're on and pulled over to the side. look all messed up. and i knew what happened. >> reporter: how did you know what happened? >> because a woman knows and i was -- i was -- wet and dirty. i was drugged. i was assaulted. and i was raped. >> back with our panel, sunny

hostin, o'mara. sunny, so many commonalities in the women's stories. one that is so stunning. either they thought no one would believe them or they were told to keep kauaiquiet about it? >> unfortunately having tried sex crimes. women still feel that way. i mean how compelling is what she said what we just played, what she just said? so compelling. i think she seemed honest, north rightnorth -- forth right and even in that conviction in her voice in her manner she still didn't think anyone would believe her. women often times do not come forward, because they do not believe they will be believed. and i think what and because they're embarrassed. some of them are in shock. and let's remember we are talking about bill cosby here. it's one thing i think to come forward when it's someone that you, you know know well.

maybe, date rainpe. something like that. it is another beef when you are talking about coming forward testifying against someone that is famous that will have the funds the money to hire the best and the, the best and the brightest attorneys to protect them. >> mark three of cosby's accusers filed a defamation lawsuit pending against him as his agents said that their accusations were untrue. does this testimony help their case? >> think it absolutely does help their case. this is sort of what might open the door to liability. though statute of limitations excluded their ability to sue way back then. if something today was defamation, saying they lived when in fact we know the truth which is that the victims, the women were speaking the truth, back in 2005 back in 2010 whenever they said it. now they have the opportunity to

sue him and say, "for the defamation, for calling me a liar in public when i said i was raped." may open him up to a lawsuit. >> in the defamation lawsuit, cosby's le galgal team. if the case moves forward could cosby be force to testify again? >> he could. truth is a defense to any defamation case. the problem is that you have to spend the money and litigate that defamation lawsuit. if he wants to or need to defend his case defend himself. a party in the civil suit will have to take a stand in deposition, trial, or bothen most cases. the reality is, an interesting case. it gives us a rare glimpse into dep sigszositions which is not something the public sees. what you realize in depositions the scope of discovery is far

broader than you see at trial. why is that it important here? well because what eventually gets into a trial is narrowly limited. if all thifs testimonys testimony exists in a deposition transcript it could be searched for anything that may be used against cosby in the modern day. exact plea whatly what has happened here. good to have you on. >> a woman feels vindicated by the news. what she says she endured. and how she says she was told to keep quiet about it. what do a nascar® driver... a comedian... and a professional golfer have in

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more on the bill cosby breaking news. earlier spoke with another accuser patty maston, a picture of her with bill cosby. encountered him in 1979 while a manager at the playboy club in chicago. here's what she told me. your reaction to hearing what bill kz becosby admitted to under sworn testimony? >> complete validation across the board from all of us. complete validation. >> to you it tell the story of what happened? >> absolutely. >> to lots of women. >> to me and many of us. >> what tell me a little bit about what happened to you?

you met him in 1979. >> well i was a playboy bunny in great gorge. bill cosby was on the playboy circuit. he performed in all the clubs. i knew him five years even before this situation happened. i was in chicago as the bunny director, bunny mother they called it. he would was being interviewed by maggie daly a famous columnist at "the trib" at the time. after he asked me if i wanted to have lunch. i knew him five years. we had lunch at banquet on a bun. later that afternoon he called me on a private numberen my office. i didn't understand how he got that number. he asked me if i wanted to have dinner the next night. i said sure. he called me that afternoon and said meet me at the whitehall hotel. i didn't thing anything of it. he was in town. doing a come deshow.dy show. doing interviews. high met him at the whitehall. he said come up to this

particular suite. when i went up to the room. there were four other men in the room. playing card. smoking cigars and watching sports. and cosby asked me if i wanted to have a drink. it was 7:30 in the evening. i wasn't much of a drinker. i said i will have a little grand marnier. that is an after dinner drink. you can tell what a novice i was. he sent a bellman out to get the bottle. brought the bottle back up. fix the drink behind me. took two sips. the last thing i remember. >> really? >> two sips. at 4:00 in the morning i woke up in bed. naked. bruised and battered. and i looked over. he was there naked. and i slivered out of the bed because i didn't didn't want to weak him. wake him. i gathered my clothes. i got dressed. i've went downstairs got a cab. want to my apartment, took a shower. had to go back to work at playboy, had to get the girls on the floor. i went back to work. >> do you have a memory of what happened between the drink

and -- >> i don't have any memory at all of what happened. but i knew. i knew that i was brutally raped. i knew it. and and i after he raped me i told my bosses at playboy what he did to me. and playboy said to me well you know, bill cosby is hefner's best friend, right? i said yes i no that. well nobody is going to believe you. i suggest you shut your mouth. >> that's what you were told? >> that's what i was told. >> also you said you were in touch with many will whoon uhomen who worked for playboy reaching out who said they have similar experiences. have they not come forward publicly? >> many we are up to 48 who have come forward. 48 women. probably another 50 that are jane does. >> you believe? >> i know. i know. i know. and my facebook is lighting up. we have private facebook pages just for playboy bunnies only. it is lighting up.

he did me too. he is coming out. it's happening. >> why do you think somebody would drug this was a guy who at the time was at the height of his fame probably not at the height of his fame. incredibly popular. incredibly well leaked.ike liked. could have met women. do you think this is something he particularly looked to do the drugging aspect? >> he is a sociopath. they have no remorse. he will definitely be known as the most prolific serial rapist in the united states of america. no doubt, dr. huxtable will be. >> you believe more women will come forward? >> i know. i know they will. >> appreciate you being on. >> my pleasure. >> a deadly weekend in chicago. seven people killed including a 7-year-old boy cut down by a bullet police say was intended for his father who they say is a known gang member. and his father is not cooperating with police. the investigation of his own son's killing.

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chicago this holiday week end including a 7-year-old boy gunned down by a bullet. police say meant for his father, a gang member with a criminal record. at the vigil a family friend said unless there are changes this tragedy will keep happening. the superintendent says the system is broken. i'll speak to him in a moment. >> you might as well turn yourself in because this 7-year-old, did nothing to you. >> reporter: the 7-year-old is amare brown killed by a bullet police believe was intended for his father. a man police have called a known gang member who had been arrested more than 40 times. in addition to brown, seven others were killed this weekend ranging in age from 17 to 48. at the nearby greater st. john bible church, pastor ira akre is frustrated. >> amare is 7 years old. and there is power in the blood of the innocent. >> reporter: chicago needs fewer

guns and more opportunity. despite horrific headlines, real change doesn't appear close. >> we need to go straight to the core and the core is to deal with the social desperation. >> reporter: the level of violence in the nation's third largest city is not much better than it was two years ago. i'm not going to say it's worse but i'm not going to say it's better. >> reporter: when the murder of a 15-year-old sparked outrage across the country. the victim's parents can't believe that her death did not lead to greater change. and this weekend yet another innocent life was cut short. >> it is heartbreaking because i know what those parents are going through. >> reporter: despite the frustration, the pendletons will not quit because the pain they feel will never go away. >> we dent want other people to feel it. feel what we have felt. there have been thousands of other families who have unfortunately have.

>> the 7-year-old boy's father who police believe was the intended target of the shooting is he now cooperating with authorities? >> no anderson he is not cooperating with police. frankly they're not surprised. they believe he was a high-level member of a chicago gang. and one police officer told me today those gangs have their own system of justice. >> ryan appreciate you booing with us. the police superintendent, i spk to him before air. superintendent, the 7-year-old boy who was killed you say the system failed him. how so? how did it fail him? >> in this case the intended target was the victim's father. and the victim's father was arrested 45 times, the last time for a firearm here in chicago back in april. he bonded out the next day. i'm sorry but if you are arrested 45 times you shouldn't be on the street especially when your last one was a gun possession. should have been a high bond set or high bail. the system here in chicago, or i should say in illinois doesn't

allow for that. the possession of an illegal loaded firearm is not even considered a violent crime for sentencing purposes. until such time as the that changes here we are going to be talking about chicago violence. we can make a better police department, more functional police department we take more guns off the street than any city in the country every single year. 7 to 1 compared to new york. i worked in new york for 25 years as you know and i know those officers. these are great officers here. they're not seven times better than the new york city police department. >> this young boy who got killed his father who as you say was the, the intended target is not cooperating with the investigation into the murder of his own son. is that still the case? >> yeah that's still the case. yesterday after i kind of went public with my rant he gave us a statement. but it was a vanilla statement that he didn't see anything. you know i can't reveal the

circumstances that we know occurred at that scene at this time. but he could do a lot better for us let's put it that way. and you know the fear is he is going to take care of it himself. while we are being held accountable for violence here in the city and i accept our accountability as a cog in the wheel. there is a much bigger picture here. if he wasn't on the street the shooting doesn't occur. if he is on the street i'm worried the next shooting will occur as retaliation. >> in retaliating who knows who gets killed in the cross fire of that. i have got to say, i know there is this whole code of not being a snitch. but it used to be a snitch was somebody who would give talk to police in order to got a lesser sentence or turn on somebody. this is just being a decent human being, being a decent citizen and saying what you saw. especially when it is your own child that has been killed. i got to say, i just find it

incredible. >> yeah and you hit it on the head, anderson. there is a difference between being a co-conspirator and a witness. that's the difference. yeah, that's exactly it. it's incredible. >> hopefully somebody who saw something will come forward. because if people don't report crimes, people don't admit what they saw and tell the police things don't get solved. that's, that is part of the problem. >> yeah it is part of the problem. and in this case we have got some really good leads at this point. but you know it's -- as you said just incredible that we're not getting cooperation from the individual who we know can probably put this thing over the top very easily. >> to the parents in the neighborhood, kids teenagers, over the weekend were killed parents hatch genuine concerns about the safety of their kids. what is your message to them? can you really tell them that they're safe? >> my message is we have got a work to do. we made improvements.

we are doing better. at the end of the day if we are going to fix gun violence in the city of chicago it revolves around the entire system getting involved starting with having legislation that makes sense that puts a sanction that is swift and certain as far as gun possession goes. >> superintendent garry mccarthy. appreciate you being on. >> always a pleasure. thank you. >> arnold schwarzenegger back in theaters, the new "terminator" movies doesn't want to answer question as but commuting a sentence for a killer whose father was his political ally. we're "keeping them honest." next.

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schwarzenegger wasn't in the last installment of the franchise he was severing as governor of california. a sentence he commuted on his last day in office in 2011. keeping him honest the kill here freed son of a former political ally our recruiting his blockbuster franchise with all the spectacle you would expect from arnold schwarz warz. but we're here because the former california governor ignored requests for interviews from cnn. >> around arnold arnold. >> reporter: and is still appearing to dodge our questions. will you answer another question from cnn? we're here to ask him about someone else who says they are being ignored by schwarzenegger fred and cathy santos. >> he plays a heros in the movies. yet in real life, easy' not a hero. he is a dirty politician. >> reporter: they are the parents of lewis santos an average college student whose young life and death got tangled up in the highest levels of

california politics. >> 911. >> my boy is dying. >> reporter: october 4th 2008 2:16 a.m. grainy surveillance video captures several figures running. >> three people stabbed. >> randally attacked. >> reporter: four friends out on the san diego university campus jumped by strangers. you can't make out the actual crime. but three were injured. and one of them 22-year-old lewis santos the left vin ventricle of his heart sliced in a stab wound died. >> stay awake! >> reporter: the attackers pleading out of san diego to sacramento, their home. they stopped at this 71 #. you can see one of the men carrying a big gulp cup, they filled it with gas using it to tomp their bloody clothes. it took police only hours to identify four 179s, and soon a motive. >> they were kiksd out of a

party so they decided they were going to stab some people. >> reporter: two of the suspects finger ryan jet and esteban estes as lewis santos's killers. >> i was concerned that politics might get involved. >> it was immediate. >> reporter: the connection one of the suspect's father is fabbian nunez. he was one of california's most powerful lawmakers. in 2004 when he was sworn in as california's assembly maker his son was his side now the politician was standing by his son. nunez called on his political friends to support his son at his bail hearing. even then mayor of los angeles antonio via re goesa who wrote to the court that esteban nunez is a young man of good and upright character. >> was anyone in power speaking

for your son? >> no. no one. we are just regular folks. >> reporter: while politics swirled above the murder trial before it began nunez and jet were offered a plea geel by the prosecution. >> i pray that the universe will deliver to you a justice punishment. >> reporter: then at sentencing 16 years behind bars each. the maximum panel for manslaughter and assault. >>. what did you think about that? >> i thought it was better than nothing which is why we agreed to a plea deal, so there is punishment. >> reporter: what happened? >> well we got cheated out of that. >> reporter: what the santoss didn't know fabbian nunez had forged a close friendship with governor arnold schwarzenegger. on his very last night in office without hearing from the santos family schwarzenegger slashed nunez's sentence from 16 years to just 7.

he is set to be released early next year. >> i think it was political cronyism at its worst snoofr snoor after several weeks cnn repeatedly requested an interview with fabbian nunez. he denied it but he spoke to cnn in 2011. >> from the beginning my son was the headliner in this case. >> reporter: he alleged prosecutors were hungry for a conviction because of his connection to a powerful man. >> there was a totally different legal standard applied to my son. >> reporter: in this letter objecting to the court's sentence nunez argued that his son did not harm mr. santos that jet was the real killer something that witnesses told police. but officers said his role in the crime was equal. >> he actually stabbed two of the four boys himself. as to lewis, there is a question as to whether or not he was the stabber. but he participated in what

caused that stabbing. >> reporter: the only justification schwarzenegger gave for his decision was in his actual commutation letter where he cited esteban's lack of criminal history compared to jet's. the santos family now suing the state learned of schwarzenegger's stunning move to from a local reporter. >> anything you want to say to arnold schwarzenegger? >> no. it would be a waste of my breath. >> reporter: we decided to go ask for him. after denying requests for our interviews we caught up with the former governator at his terminator premiere. esteban nunez, why did you commute his sentence? >> you know since we are here today for the movie promotion, we always just talk about movies. i'm happy to talk about the terminator, and i'd love to talk about genesis, that is the most

important thing. >> the family is trying to go to the supreme court, sir. >> reporter: we try again. >> reporter: arnold arnold arnold. >> reporter: and again. >> arnold may i ask you a question on behalf of the santos family? >> reporter: he won't respond returning to his hollywood life while the santos family returns to theirs minus the glamor. why are you continuing to fight? >> we were not there to protect him, to prevent him from being killed. this is the only thing we can do. >> kuhn law joins us from los angeles. did arnold schwarzenegger break any laws? he is i guess allowed to do this right? >> he is allowed to do this. we have covered these sort of commutations so far. two california judges have said no reluktantly said no in their writings. he said this reeks of politics one judge calling the action repugnant. there is a new law in the books, california governor's must now

notify victims' families before doing anything like this. >> esteban nunez is setting to released next year. i suppose there is nothing the family can do about that? >> it's unfortunate. the family can't. they are still going to the california supreme court they are hoping at least to get an apology. >> thanks for reporting that. we'll be right back. i've got the solution. well, we have 30 years of customer records. our cloud can keep them safe and accessible anywhere. my drivers don't have time to fill out forms. tablets. keep them all digital. we're looking to double our deliveries. our fleet apps will find the fastest route. oh, and your boysenberyy apple scones smell about done. ahh, you're good. i like to bake. with at&t get up to $400 dollars in total savings on tools to manage your business.

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we continue to follow the breaking developments in the bill cosby story. we'll see you again at 11 p.m. for another edition of anand cooper 360 # thanks for watching. cnn tonight tonight with don lemon starts now. breaking news. a stunning admission from bill cosby. court documents just revealed show this n. a deposition nearly ten years ago the tarnished comedy legend is asked quote, when you got the kwai ludes was it in your mind that you were going to use these kwai ludes for young women that you wanted to have sex with? cosby's answer? yes. tonight we will talk to some of the victims including the woman who told me this. >> i never saw any drugs, but i would wake up completely confused half dressed and knowing that my body had been touched without my permission. >>