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decade ago shirley rainry was found dead in her garage in cape cod one gun shot to her chest, another to her head. tomorrow night on cnn you will hear from the only suspect ever charged in connection with this unsolved murder randy kay's special report murder on cape cod, who shot shirley rainy? it airs tomorrow night here at 9:00 eastern. that's it for us. thank you for joining us. see you back here tomorrow. "ac 360" starts right now. good evening, thank you for joining us. 11:00 p.m. here on the east coast. tonight for the very first time after so many allegations from so many different women we can report that kibz himself has admitted to obtaining drugs, drugs known for erasing memory for women he intended too much sex with.
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our knowledge of that comes not from sources however reliable they may be but from mr. cosby himself in records of testimony he made in a case which has been settled out of court. randi kaye joins with us the details. >> reporter: what we are learning tonight is that bill cosby testified in 2005 that he got quaaludes with the intent of giving them to young women that he wanted to have sex with. not only, that but he admitted giving the sedative to at least one woman and other people according to the court documents we just got. here's is what the documents say. koiz is asked, when you got the quaaludes was it in your mind that you were going to use these guy ludes for young women that you wanted to have sex with? and his respond, anderson is simply this yes, period. >> where are these documents coming from. >> from documents unsealed. the ap "associated press" pushed the court to release the documents. cosby's lawyers fought it. the testimony is of cosby under oath and it's related by a
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lawsuit filed by former temple university employee andrea constand who went to police saying cosby drugged and molested her in 2004. the district attorney did not bring charges. years later he explained that andrea constand waited a year before going to authorities and that hurt her case they had lost the ability to test her blood for the agents. tonight we know from the court documents that the 77-year-old comedian testified and admitted those years ago that he gave that employee three half pills of ben drill. but we can see from the testimony we have been going through her lawyers didn't buy that since he also admitted in that testimony to wanting to use quaaludes to get women to have sex with him. the documents show on the night in question cosby offered andrea constand three blue pills saying quote, i have three friends for you to make you relacks. her lawyers argue that ben drill
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as cosby claims it was would not produce the immobil mobilization she claimed she suffered. and cosby did settle that lawsuit for an undisclosed amount in 2006. >> 24 does fit into the narrative of other past allegations? >> absolutely it does. he has been accused by more than two dozen women. here's just a sampling of what some of the women have said. >> i never saw any drugs. but i would wake up completely confused half dressed, and knowing that my body had been touched without my permission. >> we went up to his bungalow afterwards. he made me a drink. and very shortly after that i just -- i passed out. i woke up or came to very
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groggily with him removing my underwear. >> he had gone from helping me to groping me and kissing me and touching me and handling me. and you know take off my clothes. >> has cosby ever talked about these recent allegations? >> sort of. in 2005 he told the national enquirer this i am not going to give in to people who try to exploit me because of my celebrity status. cosby has never been criminally charge medicine and for most of the allegations the statute of limitation has run out. >> joining me is an attorney and internal affairs commentator and drew opinionski. areeva for you, is this proof that bill cosby is guilty of at least swhoochl his many many accusers said he did to them? >> absolutely. anderson he makes an admission under oath. i think it's important to put the context here. he was being deposed because he was being sued civilly by someone who said that he gave
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her a drug and then he raped her. and under this you know -- under oath statement he makes an admission, which is why when you look at his lawyers' arguments about why these documents should not have come out they are really laughable. they said that this would embarrass bill cosby but the judge himself said why would he be embarrassed by giving his own account of what he did. i think this is vicinity indication for the more than two dozen women who said something similar happened to them. he can no longer continue to hide behind the denials. >> doctor droou, let's talk about quaaludes, what do they do to a person? >> very much like what the woman described. they cause sudden and severe kbroks induce sleep. and they call it a floppiness that people aren't able to propagate through the world. their musclesback become severely limp that they almost can't lift their limbs up or come to their defense.
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some of the women describe that kind of thing which is consistent with quaaludes. >> does it make sense that if somebody's motivation to give somebody guy ludes is it to inkpats capacitate them to be able to sexually assault them without their permission or without asking or is it an interesting where he wants to have sex with somebody who is incapacitated. >> there is such a thing, a fetish of having sex with people who are asleep. you don't know whether it is that or just to have your way with someone. whatever it is it is the same affect. you heard in the tapes that some of the women didn't remember anything. when combined with alcohol, quaaludes cause a lot of people not to be able to recall what happened. >> this civil suit could it not have been used against him in a criminal case? >> that's what puzzling when we
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hear that constand did go ahead and file a claim with the district attorney. but they said there was not physical evidence because she waited a year. but we have this admission in the deposition. you have to wonder did the district attorney drop the ball? did something go wrong with the prosecution because you have an admission. what more with would a prosecutor need to go forward with charges someone? i think this is a case someone needs to go back and reevaluate and figure out how come there weren't criminal charges brought against him because the statute of limitation had not run in this case. >> doctor when you add this to the allegations out there, dozens and dozens does it fall in line with the behavior of some sort of cereal sexual assaulter? >> i personally have never seen anything like this. but yeah. if you remember there is all this footage with with him
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talking about men being preoccupied with looking for a pill that would make women aroused. this is not a way of explaining or dismissing what he did. my understanding is he had a very, very traumatic childhood. it would be interesting to know what happened to him growing up. it may be some insight of what it created in the present. >> to be frank a. lot of people have traumatic childhoods and don't end up doing this sort of thing. >> absolutely. this is not dismissing -- it's so hard to get your head around. how could this man do this? the average person normal person cannot understand what this is? i can't understand what it is i need to understand what circumstance might have set this up. it's something i have never seen and it's astonishing and awful. >> i want to bring in mark o'meara. what do you make of this
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deposition? >> it's amazing. it happened ten years ago and now it's sort of finally come out -- the truth is coming out after his ongoing denials in the past six or eight months. what areeva said about reopening the criminal case i'm not sure it is going to be that easy to do. and i have to believe that the prosecutor ten years ago did not have this information available to him or her because it was part of a confidential settlement and i'm sure part of it was that she would not cooperate or go forward with cooperating testimony with the prosecutor. >> you can make that part of a confidential settlement between two people? >> you sort of can but you are not supposed to because you are not supposed to interfere with the proper administration of justice and convincing a victim of a crime not to testify might be argued to be obstruction of justice. but in confidential negotiations this does happen, where people -- you buy silence. and i think that's what happened ten years ago. want to talk about this more. we've got to take a quick break.
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stick around. as always a quick reminder, set your dvr to watch 360 whenever you want. up next another woman who says bill cosby raped her. also dunld donald trump adopting a woman's killing in san francisco by an undocumented immigrant as a political cause and doubled down on what he already said about illegal immigrants coming across the border.
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breaking news bill cosby on record admitting to obtaining drugs to give to women he wanted to have sex. his testimony part of court records in a case he settled with one of his accusers. joining us patty masston, this is a picture of her with mr. bill cosby. she enkournt countered him when she was a manager of the playboy in 1979. your reaction to what mr. cosby admitted to under sworn testimony? >> complete validation across the board for all of us complete validation. >> to you it tells the story of what happened to lots of women? >> absolutely. to me and many of us. my facebook has been lighting up all afternoon. and i can tell you, anderson there is more women coming out now. >> really? >> yeah, absolutely.
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absolutely. >> what -- tell me a little bit about what happened to you. you met him in 1979? >> well i was a playboy bunny and great gorge. and koibds was often the employ boy circuit. he performed in all of the clubs. i knew him for five years before this situation happened. i was in chicago as the bunny director bunny mother they called it. and he was being interviewed by maggie daily, who was a famous columnist at the transcribe at the time. and afterwards he asked me if i wanted to have lunch. again, i knew him for five years. we had lunch at bayne banquet on a bun. later that afternoon he called me on a private number in my office. i didn't understand how he got that number. but he asked if i wanted to have dinner the next night. i said sure. he called me that afternoon and said meet me at the white hall hotel. i didn't think anything of it. he was in touchblt he was doing a comedy show doing interviews. i met him at the white hall. i called from downstairs.
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he said come up to this particular suite. when i went up to the room there were four other men in the room and they were playing cards and smoking si gars and watching sports. and cosby asked me if i wanted to have a drinks. it was 7:30 in the evening, i wasn't much of a drinker and i said well i'll have a little grand marnier. that's an afterdinner drink and he sent a bellman out to get the bottle. he brought the bottle behind me. i took two since and that's the last thing i remember. >> really? >> two since. at 4:00 in the morning i woke up in bed naked, brews bruised and battered. and i looked over and he was there naked. and i slivered out of the bed because i didn't -- didn't want to wake him, and i gathered my clothes. and i got dressed and i went downstairs and i got a cab, went to my apartment, took a showers shower. id to go back to work at playboy. i had to get the girls on the
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floor and i went back to work -- >> do you have a memory of what happened between that drink and -- >> i don't have any memory at all of what happened. but i knew -- i knew that i was brutally raped. i knew it. >> and you -- he reached out to you the next day, i understand? >> yes. and he said why did you leave so early? and i was so startled by that conversation i said i had to go back to work. and he says i'm sending you a gift. and about four hours later a four-foot ficus tree shows up in my office and a note on there, and it said you have to groom this free like you do our friendship make sure you cut the leaves and prune it and this whole big dissertation of how to take care this plant. naturally, i threw it out. he kept calling and calling. i guess he got the message i wasn't going to see him again. then he kept calling and asking for different bun east bunny
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michele, and i kept writing the notes down and throwing them out. i refused to im give them to my girls into what made you come forward? >> i came forward when i heard it was a 15-year-old that he drugged and raped. and a 15-year-old, anderson is a child. that is an innocent child. and for this monster to rape a 15-year-old child, and at playboy mansion. >> this was somebody else who later came forward. >> yes. and after he raped me i told my bosses at playboy what he did to me. and playboy said to me well you know bill bill cosby is heavyner's best friend, right? i said yes, i know that. well, nobody is going to believe you. i suggest you shut your mouth. >> that's what you were told? >> that's what i was told. >> the fact now that he testified that he did until fact get quaaludes in the 70s i guess with multiple prescriptions, you feel it's complete vindication? >> absolutely.
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>> and do you think -- >> it's the tip of the iceberg, ands an. it's the tip of the iceberg. trust me when i tell you. my facebook is blowing up. i work with hundreds and hundreds of playboy bunnies. it's blowing up right now. >> from people who used to be playboy bunnies to said they had -- >> that is correct. >> we're going to take a short break. we'll have much more on this story and others. we'll be right back. power kale chicken caesar salad is rivaled only, by the goodness felt while eating one. panera. food as it should be.
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we're back with patty masten one of bill cosby's many accusers. before the break, not only were you recounting what happened to you in 1979 but you also said you were in touch with many from playboy who have reached out to you saying they had similar experience. are these women that have not come forward. >> we are up to 48 that have come forward and there is probably another 506 that are jane does. >> real lesion you believe up to 50? >> i know. i know. and my facebook is lighting up. we have private facebook pages
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just for playboy bunnies, lately. it's lighting up. if he did me too, it's coming out. it's happening. >> why do you think somebody would drug -- this was a guy who at the time was at the height of his -- incredibly popular, incredibly well liked could have probably met women. do you think this was something he particularly liked to do the drugging aspect? >> he is a sociopath. they have no remorse. they don't have feelings about people. they don't have any feelings at all. if he wanted to have sex, believe me he could have had sex with anybody at any time. he was a very wealthy man, a celebrity. spresh up at heavyner's mansion. there were enough girls that hung around there that he could have easily had sex with. but to drug a person and then to violate them like, that that's a sociopath. he will definitely be known as the most prolific cereal rapist in the united states of america.
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no doubt. dr. huks taliban will be. >> and you believe more women will come forward? >> i know. i know they will. >> patty, i appreciate you being on tonight. >> my pleasure. >> back with the panel, dr. drew being one of thechlt dr. drurks what do you make what have patty just said? >> it's breath taking when you hear her state those allegations and lay it out the way she has. she could be right. that's certainly a possibility. if what she is saying is accurate she will be proven to the right. i found it interesting that she had only two since of the grand marnier she ordered with the quaaludes allegedly in it. that suggests -- first of all she may have forgotten what happened after the initial dose. people's memory gets erased going forward. she may have eventually drunk more than she remembers. but in any case even to induce that degree of memory problem that quickly suggests he put rather high concentrations --
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potentially high traegss -- you can easily overdose on quaaludes, i'm surprised nobody was hurt. >> you say that a legal team had to petition a judge to answer questions. is that normal? >> normal in this case of this nature where you have a high-profile individual like bill cosby. the deposition is likely to be contentions lots of objections being made by both sides. when they got to the difficult questions about the drugs and giving the women drugs and whether the women knew they were taking drugs bill cosby's attorney refused to allow him to answer those questions and the plaintiff's attorney had to go into court and get an order compel pg him to respond. anderson the concept of people not believing that bill cosby would do this -- and what we've heard time and time again from all these women is that when they tried to come forward people didn't believe them. even when we think of the
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constand lawsuit and the privacy clause and the private settlement agreement, sometimes women have to file civil suits because when they go to the criminal justice system they are not believed and it's very difficult to prosecute. these are difficult cases for women to come forward with and then for prosecutors to prove against people like bill cosby. >> also it's indicteding what she has said about how we treated women. if we still treat women like this shame on us. that in 1979 she steps forward to her boss and said i've been raped and he says shut up that needs to be taken seriously. the feminist literature should get a hold of us. >> could this affect more civil suits against bill cosby? the statute of limitations for most of these alleged crimes has
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expired? >> that's the be pro. most of the statute of limitations have long since done. there is nothing that states are going to be able to do against him. civilly, they also have statutes of limitations. there are some exceptions when you intentionally hide information. but it's very difficult. unfortunately because it's all coming out now and we get an insight into sort the psychopathy of what seems to be gathering evidence of a cereal rapist it may be he is only tried in the court of public opinion because there is not many courts that still have jurisdiction over him. >> could i -- >> go ahead. >> i agree where mark but i think the importance of this is that more women will be empowered to come forward now that they n.o.w. know he has gone on record and admitted he has raped and drugged women. we may get case that are not barred by the statute of limit nations. just ahead, the more breaking news. the undocumented immigrant accused of shooting and killing
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there is breaking news tonight in the apparently random and totally senseless shooting death of a woman along san francisco's water front. the man who admits to killing her, an illegal immigrant from mexico who has entered the country and been deported many times has been charged with her death. he will be arraigned tomorrow. catherine's killing has focused attention on the city's policy where that is concerned and her case has been taken up by presidential hopeful done trump n. a moment the breaking news on that. he is doubling down on his statements. also tonight i'm going to talk to the victim's brother about his sister and her life. firps the story from sarah siden. >> reporter: a father reacts to the searing pain of losing a loving daughter at the hands of a stranger. >> this is evil.
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evil personified. >> jim and his daughter 32-year-old catherine steinle were taking a stroll on pier 14 in san francisco. at the same time this marngs juan francis so loep sanchez fired a gun he said he found in a wrapped in a t-shirt. >> did you shoot the woman on pier 14? >> yes. >> you did shoot her. >> reporter: the man says the killing was an accident but it mass sparked an immigration firestorm. he has been deported from the u.s. five times. it would have been six but his case got caught in a local versus federal policy fight. let me ask you, from a lay person's standpoint looking at this it looks like san francisco's sheriff's department messed up here. what do you say to that? >> they are completely wrong about that. as sheriff, i adhere to the laws that govern our land and san francisco is not alone. in fact well over 300
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municipalities have similar laws like san francisco because what has not been reconciled on the federal lovelyr level local governments and state governments are devising new laws that help direct the relationship about ice. what is troubling is that this word detainer has ice put out in a that they had sktd our department -- they have known for a long time that what we require in san francisco like the 299-plus other cities is that we need a lawful court order, a warrant, or a court order that helps the trfrs transference of somebody in our custody to ice. this has been in practices for some time. >> lopez sanchez had just been in federal prison and would have been put in deportation proceedings but because of a decades old outstanding warrant in san francisco immigration and customs enforcement handed him over to local authorities. but san francisco declined to prosecute the old drug case.
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and the sheriff's department let him go free even though immigration officials asked san francisco's sheriff's department to notify them if he was to be released. but they did not. >> do you feel guilt or responsibility -- >> it's horrible. this is absolutely horrible. it is a senseless traj deechlt it i think does spotlight the fragmentation of how law exists between a local, state, and federal level, and how it is sort of patchworked around the country. but you can't deny that over 300 cities now in a very short period of time have adopted laws like san francisco meaning something that suspect working on the federal level. >> reporter: the reason the sheriff's department declined to notify ice officials is san francisco is a sanctuary city. generally speaking it won't hand over nonviolent nondocumented people without a court order. but the family wants nothing to do with the political debate saying their sole focus is on remindsing the world of what a
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wonderful person steinle was. >> it's not going to bring kate back. again, they will find the guy and whatever you know, the justice will work its way through the system. but our focus is on kate. >> sara sidner joins us now. the shooter, he told a local station he intentionally came back to san francisco because it is a so-called sanctuary city right? >> that's exactly right. that has heightened the frustration that people have of this case, the anger, the outrage, the fact he had been deported five times and he had come back here negative he wouldn't necessarily be deported again if he was picked up by local authorities. >> coming up we'll talk to catherine steinle's brother about his sister. the breaking news not only has donald trump latched onto this tragedy and doubled down on his remarks about illegal immigrants. he is also facing new consequences. espn announced today they will be moving the network's
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celebrity golf tournament from a trump course. the reason those remarks he said about illegal immigrants from mexico. today he put out a restatement. it reads in part the mexican government is forcing its most unwanted citizens into the united states. they are for the many cases criminals, drug dealers, rapers et cetera: the fact that donald trump is pointing to this tragedy in san francisco to double down on his statement, what impact do you think that has on the campaign? >> he did double down. he released a statement tonight pointing to the of the suge. he said there are thousands of these incidents across the country. that is exactly how donald trump gets in trouble. that's almost certainly an overstatement. that is what worries republicans, he is a loose cannon in their view on some of
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the issue and they believe that he is not going to stop talking about this. all this comes politically speaking with the first republican presidential debate only a month away. that's why they think it is a political problem. >> there is also who will point to him and say just forget about the politics of this just the decency of this that they believe it may be inappropriate. this is a tragedy for this family for anybody who knew this woman. and he runs the risk of seeming to try to be scoring some political points off it. or make a political point based on a human tragedy. >> i think he runs the risk and in fact across the linea i think a lot of people would say -- i mean when there are tragedies occur presidential candidates often comment, but not like this. i'm not sure i remember something so quickly being seized on in the middle of a debate. frankly, the traffic in san
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francisco has little to do with his speech. he was trying to seize on it to amplify his point but i'm not sure that the most voters would like that. george pataki the former governor of new york who knows him well he said it was outrageous that they connected these two. so i think it -- he may have crossed the line here by blurring these two issues. >> if you look at the early states iowa new hampshire, south carolina they are not states with huge latino populations. the republican establishment is worried about the general election. that is not necessarily done trump's calculation? >> you are right. his calculation is appealing to some members of the conservative base some people who are so fed up on immigration. a lot of these people are in these early states. iowa has had an early complicated immigration debate going on, complicated in the sense that republicans think it's too harsh. same in south carolina. but republicans are worried about the general election debate. there is no path to republicans winning the white house if they do not get a bigger share of the
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hispanic vote. and it's comments like this that worry party leaders and party elders that will block them from doing so. >> jeff thanks. let's dig deeper with anna navarro, who is an adviser to a number of presidential candidates and a jeb bush adviser. anna donald trump points to this san francisco murder and says look this is exactly what i'm talking about the system is broken this guy shouldn't have been in the country, the other gop candidates don't they have to agree with him whether they like it or not? >> i don't think so. i don't think anybody feels compelled to agree with donald trump. i think most of the gop candidates certainly the serious ones see him as a carnival barker. they don't see him as a real genuine candidate. that's why it has taken a while for folks to respond to him. >> he is number two in the polls. >> yeah part of it is nis name id, the celebrity status.
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it's the fact that people like the spectacle and reality show he is bringing to politics. i don't think they have to agree. i think that george pataki is right. and it's -- you know a lot of people are going to see it as exploitings a tragedy. and we should focus on where the system failed this woman, where the system failed the citizens of san francisco in lilt letting this man out on the street. but let's not exploit it for political purposes. >> sheriff, you are in law enforcement, mrs. a politician you are running for office what do you make of what donald trump has been saying? >> he is talking about a very real issue. it isn't just san francisco's problem. this is america's problem. and there isn't a state that's not affected by the criminal element of the -- >> are the people. >> of the illegals who are here. >> are the people you are seeing coming across the borders rapists? >> there are some. he paints with too wide of a brush here. i don't agree with his comments. to make that clear, 30% of the
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400,000 residents of my county are hispanic. many of them of mexican decent good decent hard working americans. yet there are thousands of criminal illegals that are released every year. 30,000 last year alone. and that's what i think he is tapping into this anger for americans. because you and i have to follow the law, but there are 193 convicted murderers who are not from america who were released into our communities, 400 that were convicted of rape and sexual assault, 300 convicted of kidnapping. and when it appears -- and it is very real that there is a lack of consequence or punishment what do we think is going to happen? you don't have to be the sheriff to figure out that these people are going to commit serious crimes again and again and against american citizens. so even though i don't agree with him he is tapping into this anger that exists because of the failures in our system when we have to follow and abide by law
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but it appears that there is no law when it comes to illegal immigration. certainly when it comes to these most dangerous criminals. and here we even have ice that is out attacking san francisco for this. i'm shocked they are so outraged. i'm glad that they are. >> anna, you hear what the sheriff is saying. maybe donlt donald trump isn't the right person to be bringing this conversation he is painting with a wide brush. but maybe it is a conversation that needs to be had, tougher enforcement, tougher penalties, that's part of it right? >> i think people are having that conversation. people who are advocates for immigration reform all talk about having zero tolerance for illegal aleerngs undocumented immigrants who come here and commit crimes. the problem is that this guy had seven plens felonies and they let him loose without turning him over to ice. that defies logic and i think that san francisco's bleeding heart liberalism and compassion went too far in this case and the system is broken. definitely.
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definitely. look i'm i'm an immigrant to this country. there are some people who are bad apples in every single group, every ethnicity, nationality, race, et cetera. we just saw this weekend, what 40-some shootings in chicago. almost ten deaths in chicago over the weekend. those were not immigrants committing. there is bad apples and good people in every group. that being said, yes we have to address the border yes we have to address the fact that if you come here as an immigrant, come to this country and commit crimes there should be no tolerance and no welcome mat for you. >> domd trump says there needs to be a great wall how realistic is it to build an impenetrable wall. people have been trying to build walls for a long time. billions have been spent on border security.
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is that feasible? >> one i don't advocate for that. i mend build border fence south of san diego. not all 2,000 miles need a fence. we are not building the great waufl mexico. we need 700 miles of this barrier on areas proven to be smuggling corridors and we need the technology to compliment it cameras, infrared lighting sensors. and more important than a fence or that technology we need enforcement of the law. the laws that already exist that literally have just been with a wave of the hand -- that's why we are arresting in my county who who are committing crimes in my state that have been deported eight times, 15 items. heck last month we arrested a man that almost proudly proclaimed he has been deported 20 times. don't scratch your head trying to figure out why they keep coming back i'm talking about the criminals, it's because there is a lack of consequence.
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what do we think is going to happen. >> sheriff, i appreciate you coming on and anna navarro. a programming note we have secured the first major sit down interview in the kpain of hillary clinton. you can see it tomorrow night right here on the program at 8:00. just ahead we will revisit the part of the san francisco story that can never be corrupted bipartisan politics. we will be joined by catherine steinle's brother to learn more about the sister he so desperately misses. about treatment with xarelto®. xarelto® is proven to treat and help reduce the risk of dvt and pe blood clots. xarelto® has also been proven to reduce the risk of stroke in people with afib, not caused by a heart valve problem. for people with afib currently well managed on warfarin, there is limited information on how xarelto® and warfarin compare in reducing the risk of stroke. i tried warfarin before, but the blood testing routine and dietary restrictions had me off my game. not this time. not with xarelto®. i'll have another arnold palmer.
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we have been reporting the political fallout from the killing in san francisco because one of the leading presidential hopefuls has adopted it as a talking point. the risk is seeing it only through that kind of lens. the clearest and most enduring view of what happened on that pier comes from those who knew and loved the victim catherine steinle and will love her for the rest of their lives. joining us by phone her
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brother, brad. brad, i'm sorry for your loss i can't imagine what the last few days have been like for you and your family. can you talk about catherine, what kind of person she was, what kind of person she is? >> my sister was -- she was my best friend. she was the person i called for advice. she was the most amazing, outgoing loving person. and i was lucky enough to have her as my sister for 32 years. and we're devastated. and we're lost. but we want her to memory and her love and her soul to live on. and she was very strong person. she traveled the world. she lived in -- for a year. she travelled to africa. to china, all over europe.
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you know, she posted something on her facebook the day before she died that says whatever is good for your soul do that. and that's how kate lived. and we just want to spread that message. and in a time like this, it's easy for some -- for us -- it would be easy for us to hate and be angry. but kate wouldn't want that. so we're just -- we're trying to spread the message -- a message of love and -- and that's -- that's what kate would want. >> that's an incredibly hard thing to do, i imagine. i mean at a time like this to not be angry, to not feel hate. >> yeah. yeah. i mean in my wildest dreams i could never imagine having this
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conversation. and if you would have asked me a month ago if i would be angry if somebody killed my sister i'm sure i'd tell you yes. but the unthinkable has happened. and we're focusing on the good. because kate was a good person. she was a great person. you know the circumstances are horrible. and we've lost a person we cherished more than anything. but all i feel now is love and i'm thankful that i had the time that i had with her because she was the most amazing sister. if i was able to talk to kate right now she would say, hey, brad it's okay. just spread my memory and spread love. and then i know that would make
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her smile. >> and i know we're not going to talk about any politics or how this has become a larger issue because i really want to just focus this on your sister. and i imagine part of your concern is that who she is will get lost in all of that. i read a story that your neighbor told about her coming over to his house when she was little to give flowers to her daughter -- his daughter who just broken her arm. it sounds like that's the kinds of thing she did a lot. >> yeah. yeah. kate had the biggest heart. kate called my momma a incumbent months ago -- she called my mom daily. she said to my mom, hey, i hope you are not mad at me but that jacket you got me a couple weeks ago, i was out to dinner in san francisco and saw a homeless person who had a t-shirt on, and it was super cold outside and i gave it away. you might need to buy me a new
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jacket. that's just how kate was. you know? in the worst time in the worst imaginable of circumstances, we are all staying strong because we have so much love for kate. and this is what she would want. so this is what we're giving her in her memory. >> brad i appreciate you talking to us tonight. and just telling us a little bit about your sister. thank you so much. >> all right. thank you. >> catherine's family set up a go fund me page in her memory. that is the link below. you can find it on our website. that does it is for this edition of 360. thank for watching. my heart... beats 100,000 times a day sending oxygen to my muscles... again! so i can lift even the most demanding weights. take care of all your most important parts with centrum.
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newly released court records reveal a stunning admission from comedian bill cosby. and greece is looking for a solution to its debt crisis as it prepares to face european creditors today. and we look at the san francisco pier shooting how immigration factors in and how donald thump isbp is using it as political collateral. want to begin with some
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