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a short leash, literally. >> this is "new day" can kwiswith chris cuomo. >> newly uncovered testimony from bill cosby reveals the comic admitting he obtained prescription sedatives with the intent of giving them to women he wanted to sleep with. >> cosby admits he gave a quaalude to one woman, but not admit he gave them to women against their will. >> this is really a fascinating admission by bill cosby because not only did these women, many of these women say they were sexual assaulted, but many of them say that they believe that they were drugged first, that they remember cosby fixing them a drink and giving it to them and after a few sips they felt incapacitated. many of these women said that. and in the context of this that's important. now, in this deposition
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partially made public in these court documents cosby is very careful with his words. but given that he denied everything for so many years, this is the first time we're hearing him admit anything at all. a bombshell in the ongoing cosby sexual assault controversy. shockingly revealed in his own words. the admission surfacing in newly unsealed court documents. the em battled comedian testifying under oath that in 2005 he had obtained seven prescriptions of quaaludes, a powerful hypnotic and sedative admitting his intent to drug young women he wanted to have sex with. his admission filed by a former temple university employee that was settled in 2006. in the deposition obtained and made public by the associated press, the plaintiff's attorney questioning the new 77-year-old cosby. question when you got the quaaludes was it in your mind that you were going to use these
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quaaludes for young women that you wanted to have sex with. cosby answering, yes. you gave them to other people? yes. when the attorney goes on to ask him did you ever give any of those women without their knowledge, cosby's lawyer objects, telling him not to answer the question. the woman in that case accusing cosby of drugging and molesting her, giving her three blue pills. the documents also includes cosby's recollection of a '70s encounter with a woman in las vegas. she meets me backstage he says. i give her quaaludes. we then have sex. according to the newly released court documents cosby's lawyers insisting that two of the accusers were aware they were taking quaaludes from the comedian. over the past 40 years more than 25 women have publicly alleged that cosby raped or assaulted them. >> it was very powerful. it came on very quickly.
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the room started to spin. at that point i knew he had drugged me. >> but cosby who recollects starhas long denied drugging and sexually molesting these women and has never been criminally charged. barbara bowman one of cosby's accusers calls the revelations a game changer. >> i think we're going to be heard now. and i think this is just the beginning. >> now, cosby fought the release of these documents, saying that they would be embarrassing. his attorney isn't commenting this morning. but thoutroughout the deposition you can see they hint to the fact that quaaludes were popular, a popular party drug that was abused in the '70s. this is the first time we're hearing any kind of his version of the story. >> absolutely. and that's what makes it so fascinating. and we are now joined by two of the women who say they were
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drugged and raped, sexual assaulted or accosted by bill cosby. barbara bowman and beverly johnson. and i want to start with barbara. she says she was drugged and raped by bill cosby when she was an aspiring actress in the '80s. and he was accusations that opened the flood gates to more than two dozen women coming forward. nice to see you. tell us what happened and what your thoughts were last night when these revelations came to light. >> it was a glorious moment. it made my heart skip a beat. >> i bet, barbara. because all along you have been saying that this happened to you. many people have not believed you and bill cosby has never let on that anything happened to you. and yet you always maintained that he drugged you. does this answer some questions for you? >> well, it doesn't answer my questions for me, because i
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was -- i'm very very positive and snow exactly what happened to me. but you're right. i have been working so hard to get this story out, to be heard. at least since 2005 that became you know the time of my life when i said i will not sit in silence anymore. and my whole objective back then was just to support andrea constand back then. when i heard her story, i couldn't believe it. i said i believe her because it happened to me. so for the next ten years i was screaming my story. and unfortunately you're right, i was not heard. no one was listening to us. so it was quite a moment to say finally, finally somebody is listening. and now everyone is listening and knows the truth. >> not only is somebody listening. somebody is talking. and that person is bill cosby. >> and admitting it. >> and admitting it.
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>> that's right. >> these revelations, these documents came out in the andrea constand case in which you were a jane doe and you came forward to support andrea constand in her allegations of sexual assault. he admits he got seven pripg prescriptions from doctors for quaaludes. he had hundreds of quaaludes. he also talked about why he settled in 2005 with andrea constand instead of going to court if he were innocent and letting this all be aired in public he settled for some undisclosed amount of money. he says that the reason he settled was because it would have been embarrassing in those days to put all of those women on the stand. and his family had no clue. and it would have been very hurtful to the women and his family including you. he didn't want to embarrass you
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back then. his lawyers just released that statement last night. what's your response? >> well if he was embarrassed then i think he better get ready, because it's going top a much worse situation now. i would like to know where and how he got all those quaaludes. >> barbara, i know you said last night when you first heard the news this is a game changer. what do you think really happens now since the statute of limitations has passed? >> i think this is just the opening of pandora's box. the issue of statute of limitations is only a small part of this big scenario. i can't imagine that as these last few months have unfolded and how quickly everything has happened that he hasn't gone through some moments of knowing that it's just a matter of time and having some anxiety over that fact. it's hard to say really what's
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ahead. but whatever is coming it's coming fast and furious. >> barbara, nice to see you. we're happy this has brought you some measure of relief this morning. >> yes, it certainly has. >> we're happy to hear that. we will check back in with you as this progressed. we want to bring in beverly johnson. she says cosby drugged her but he was able to fight him off. good morning, beverly. nice to see you. >> good morning. thank you for having me. >> tell us what your thoughts were when you heard that bill cosby himself had admitted to getting drugs in order to have sex with women in these court documents. >> well, i wasn't surprised. i think that it's an opportunity to have -- because women are expected to be voiceless. and i think it's an opportunity for women to use their voice. and that's why i'm here in this
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interview. and hopefully this will send a message to women out there to use their voice and to speak up. >> because it took many of you who accused bill cosby many years, some decades, to come forward. but then this fall there was a ground swell. and all of you getting strength from each other came forward and finally told your stories. and now to hear in 2005 he admitted in these court documents -- let me read you a portion of it. it says when you got the quaaludes -- because he admitted to getting seven prescriptions of quaaludes -- was it in your mind that you were going to use these quaaludes for young women that you wanted to have sex with? bill cosby answers, yes. you say he drugged you, but you didn't exactly know what happened what drug he used. you had a cup of coffee so you didn't understand why you
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suddenly felt so incapacitated. does this answer a question for you? >> i knew i had been drugged. what drug it was really didn't matter. it was -- i passed out. i think conversation is about trying to have a cosby chapter, this encounter that i had with cosby, in my memoir and it didn't pass legal. and it wasn't until barbara bow men en came out and i had a chance to tell my story that they said okay we want the chapter. i think it's a time for healing that the healing can begin. and also forgiveness. but also a message of women using their voice when it's necessary. >> and you know what's
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interesting, beverly, is when you came forward and barbara bowman this past fall there were so many people that didn't believe you. in fact there was some backlash on social media of people saying you all were lying and why are you coming forward now and people just wanted money out of bill cosby. and yet there were some high profile people, actors and actresses, who didn't necessarily believe bill cosby could do this. one of them was singer jill scott. she was vocal on twitter saying she didn't believe it. let me read you her twitter. at that time when people were suggesting this she wrote back you know bill cosby? i do child and this is insane. proof meaning she wanted proof, period. i think it will be interesting to hear what she tweeted last night. she said about bill cosby, sadly his own testimony offers proof of terrible deeds, which is all i have ever required to believe the accusation. is it heartening for you that
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people now seem to believe what happened? >> well i have a lot of respect for jill scott. because it takes a big person to admit that they were wrong. and here is a woman using her voice to right a wrong. and that's what the other women and the women that have been victimized and myself -- that's all we wanted to do was to use our voice to say what happened to us. >> and that's what you're doing this morning, beverly. >> that's exactly what i'm doing this morning. thank you. >> thank you for coming on and sharing this latest chapter in this ordeal. beverly is the author of a new memoir "the face that changed it all" to share what happened between her and bill cosby. you can find us at facebook.com/newday. >> it is interesting to see how this story is coming to turn now
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as you actually hear somethng from bill cosby about the allegations. >> and how relieved all the women we have spoken to this morning feel. there is some measure of closure from hearing the truth from someone. >> validation right? because they've heard so many people -- so many critics have said oh these are angry people trying to get money. whatever. and to feel like a victim and be further victimized by critics like that is very difficult. >> everything about these women that have come forward has been tested. so the man who confessed to shooting a woman on a san francisco pier is expected in court today. francisco sanchez. cnn's dan simons is live in san francisco with the very latest. what do we know dan? >> reporter: hi chris.
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trying to quell this national uproar uproar the mayor of san francisco says everyone needs to reexamine their policies. san francisco's sanctuary policy is not meant to protect dangerous felons. undocumented immigrant francisco sanchez awaits his arraignment today in san francisco. as loved ones mourn the loss of 31-year-old kate steinle. he shot and killed kate on this popular san francisco pier nearly a week ago. >> said waskate was an amazing soul . >> sanchez had been deported five times to mexico. >> i believe that they need to catch up. >> the sheriff's department declined to notify immigrations and customs officials when
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sanchez was released from jail back in april because san francisco is a so-called sanctuary city. generally speaking the city won't hand over undocumented nonviolent immigrants without a court order. >> we need a court order. >> the california attorney general saying immigration policy quote, should not be informed by our collective outrage about one man's conduct. >> they're bringing crime. >> but republican presidential hopeful donald trump is not backing down. now saying it was, quote, the mexican government who forced sanchez back into the u.s. because they didn't want him in mexico. new this morning, for a second time in less than a month negotiators will not meet a self-imposed deadline to reach nuclear agreement with iran. what can you tell us nick?
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>> reporter: well we just heard from the european union foreign policy chief here. she described it as touching the most difficult, sensitive issues. she says that's painful, but that pain is necessary at this stage of the talks. she described these as being political issues. she also said that the talks aren't going to meet the deadline. they're going to continue, is what she said. >> we are continuing to negotiate for the next couple of days. and we are interpreting in a flexible way our deadline. >> reporter: what she didn't say was one of the really tough stumbling block issues one of them is that iran wants a weapons ban in place by u.s. sanctions five years ago -- it wants that lifted and won't sign any broader nuclear deal even though the weapons ban is not part of the nuclear issue, they say they won't sign that broader
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deal unless this u.n. security council resolution is lifted. this day clearly melting into the coming couple of days at least for these talks. >> it sure looks like it. meanwhile, president obama making it clear that the battle to defeat isis will be long. he says u.s. trained troops are making tremendous gains across iraq and syria. but that news tempered by news that isis has captured a key syrian town. >> reporter: that battlefield fluid to say the least as many of these towns continue to exchange hand between isis and the governments on the ground. now, there have been a number of us air strikes around syria, very important as air strikes have picked new this region. this is the self-declared capital of isis an area that's
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been very difficult for the u.s. war planes to get into. president obama getting a full update on the isis campaign. when he came out and talked to reporters after the briefing with his top commanders he spoke about this very issue of what is happening in syria. >> we're intensifying our efforts against isil's base in syria. our air strikes will continue to target the oil and gas facilities that fund so much of their operations. >> reporter: so why raqqa, why now? kurdish fighters on the ground their front line now is about 50 miles north of raqqa as they pressure against the city the u.s. strikes have blown up a number of bridges, potential isis escape routes isis targets in the city. the u.s. now looking to see if isis takes the next step and begins to move around its troops its commanders its weapons. if isis tries to get out of raqqa
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raqqa, the u.s. hopes it may been able to find them and strike them again. san francisco is a sanctuary city. is that a reason or is that the reason that a young woman is dead? we're going to ask a member of the congressional hispanic caucus if this is about a failure of the administration.
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free guide! . a young woman is dead the charge is murder. and the question is why? why did this happen in san francisco? there's a lot of talk about
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politics about immigration policy about a failure to communicate between federal and state authorities. and through it all, there are no answers for a family who are asking why they no longer have their loved one. let's see what the politics are here and see what should be happening that is not. we have congressional caucus member texas democrat joaquin castro. you know the allegation ice can't get its act together. sanctuary cities is one way that local governments keep ice away from them so they don't have to hold people forever. then this happens. is this about a failure of the administration? >> no. i think it speaks to a larger problem, which is a broken immigration system. chris, what happened in san francisco is a real tragedy. i think everybody who hears that story is absolutely heart
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broken. there's no question that man should not have been on the street. it's a failure of not only the immigration system but also the american justice system someone that had seven felonies on his record and was still walking the street. there's not been even an immigration advocate who argues that someone with seven felonyies should be walking the streets. we ought to remove hardened criminals like this man first. >> you can dismiss donald trump as more heat than light on these issues. but he does tap into a common sentiment when he says see, this is what happens when you don't secure the border you get guys like this who should never be in the country. our immigration system doesn't work. there are a ton of people like this. >> immigration is a thorny issue and there's a lot of emotion on every side. and there are folks who whole heartedly agree with donald trump.
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but he's sensationalizing and politicizing this woman's death. and to lay this at the feet of every single immigrant from mexico and latin america. and that's absolutely wrong. just as there was a sanchez, there were folks who went and died in the iraq war and afghanistan who were undocumented. there are folks who were valedictorians of their class paid taxes and cared for their families who have also been deported because of ice. i understand the concern and the emotion because of this case. and i think san francisco should work to improve their policies. but it's also not an excuse for the kind of stereo trying and blame and the dragnet that existed under some of the secure communities programs. >> fair point. 1996 a sanctuary cities were effectively abolished by that
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federal legislation. and yet now they're popping up as an operative effect in cities all across this country. what do you do about that? >> well what you do is you get a congress that can pass immigration reform and fix this broken system. you get a speaker of the house, john boehner, who should have the gumption to stand up to his party that wanted to do absolutely nothing on immigration reform. whether it was comprehensive or piece by piece, they wanted to do nothing. this is in many ways a symptom of that larger failure. >> you have a proposal where you want to get rid of detention centers. you know political opponents will say, see that another mushy lefty wanting to make it even easier for people who want to get in here illegally. >> you're right. some people will make that argument. we want to get rid of detention centers for women and children. ice has gone a questionable job
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with these detention centers. for example, just this week there was a story about 250 children being given adult dose of vaccinations. it's that kind of care lesslessness and injurying the lives of women and kind. they shouldn't be in these kind of detention centers which are like private prisons. >> where do you put them? >> legions have stepped up for the opportunity to allow these folks to stay in housing. if somebody's a hardened criminal that has felonies on their record then there are not immigration advocates who have been standing up and saying yes, these people should say. >> we look forward to see how your proposal moves through the process. >> thank you, chris. pope francis paying a visit to the faithful in ecuador. a crowd of a million is expected
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at mass today. we take you live to south america with more on his trip and his message.
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. pope francis drawing hundreds of thousands to a mass in ecuador with an even larger crowd of up to a million people expected today. the pope asking the faithful there to pray for miracles in a country facing overwhelming challenges. rosa. >> reporter: good morning. more than a million faithful expected to celebrate the holy mass with the holy father in the bicentennial park in quito, ecuador. a little while ago that altar was covered with a tarp. we're dealing with a bit of inclement weather here. but that is not stopping the faithful. people slept here at bicentennial park waiting for the opportunity to see the first latin american pope. now, this mass is expected to be
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dedicated to i evangelization. hundreds of thousands of people flocked to celebrate mass with the holy father. we're expecting again today a million faithful here in quito, ecuador to celebrate mass. >> my goodness. time now for the five things to know. number one, bill cosby admitting in newly unsealed court testimony back in 2005 that he obtained prescription sedatives to give to women he wanted to sleep with. however, cosby not admitting to drugging anyone. talks on a nuclear deal with iran extending yet again to july 10th. it's the latest of several
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difficult sticking points. a confessed shooter who killed a woman on a san francisco pier is set to be arraigned on murder charges. san sanchez saying he shot her by accident. a final vote on the confederate flag is expected today. if two-thirds of the legislature approves that bill goes then to the state house. hillary clinton set to speak to cnn in her first national tv interview as a 2016 presidential candidate. her strategy so far has been avoiding reporters and it's come under fire. this as bernie sanders gains in the polls. and you can check out newdaycnn.com for the latest. we're going to talk to the sheriff of san francisco county who says it is not their fault.
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undocumented immigrant francisco sanchez is now charged with murder in the shooting death of 32-year-old kate steinle. but did san francisco's status as a sanctuary city contribute to the murder? the sheriff of san francisco county is with us right now. sheriff, thank you very much for being here. the allegation is fairly straightforward . all you needed to do was pick up the phone and this might not have happened. fair criticism? >> no. san francisco and 300 other cities municipalities throughout the united states have changed their local laws as it relates to how they interface with ice. ice has been well aware -- immigration customs and enforcement -- that jurisdictions like ours requires them to have a court order or a
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federal warrant for the transference and deportation process. they've been well notified of this and they did not follow through. we're not asking local law enforcement to do our job. all we're asking is that they notify us when a serious foreign national criminal is being released to the street so we can arrange to take custody. you say that the operative document, the detainer is not a legal document and you don't have to act on it. why be resistant to something as simple as this request? >> this isn't something that's cavalier or ad hoc. this has been affirmed by the u.s. federal district court in oregon. the local governments had been getting into significant trouble and liability because of false detainment. and they affirm local laws like
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san francisco and the 300 other municipalities and rapidly growing that are changing their laws. these laws are coming into effect because of the absence of comprehensive immigration policy on the federal level. and ice has been made well aware of it about san francisco and many other counties in california. >> they have problems on the federal lefvel, there's no question. the issue is whether your local law is making it better or worse. i know the case you were referring to. while it is factually very different from this one, i understand the operative principle. but i don't understand how it applies here. you just had to let the federal government know you were releasing on a drug charge this person who you knew or should have known this person they were actively seeking to release from this country. isn't that right? >> the determine detainer is a misnommer. er
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misnomer. it's a voluntary act. it has no basis and it's not grounded in any legal foundation. again, what has been affirmed by federal court is that local governments have a right to move forward in stipulating how we interface with ice so that this process is more clean. >> right. but that was to avoid -- >> and that process requires a legal instrument. >> pardon my interruption that principle was to avoid discrimination undue targeting, holding people without basis. none of those applies in this case. so i don't know why you keep citing this law. all they wanted was a phone call that say when you drop the drug charge let us know because we're trying to kick the guy out of the country for other reasons. >> well those other reasons are well known to ice since he had been deported and illegally reentered five times. >> what does that have to do with -- >> under the immigration nationality act, they could have
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acted without even interfacing with san francisco. because he was brought here the suspect, on a years old warrant for marijuana and narcotics possession. we rarely prosecutor on marijuana possession. so the charge was summaryily dismissed by the magistrate. and the suspect was detained for two and a half weeks later than his release date. ice has to -- they did not because of his rap sheet about the warrant. and then what is not news to them like many other local governments, you need a court order and a warrant. that is what has been determined by local law. and we adhere to the laws. that's exactly why i'm sheriff, is that we adhere to the laws. we honor all warrants and all court orders. but a document that does not have legal grounding becomes problematic. >> fair point. and you're saying that's had
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reason to know that you had this man and what the disposition of his case was vis-a-vis the magistrate. so if they wanted to know they could have known. the reason i'm testing your position in this is that it's a window into the larger problem. why do we have a system where the local governments have to design rules to change how much ice can interfere with them? >> well i think i gestured this earlier by saying that absent a federal comprehensive immigration policy especially as it intersects with the criminal justice system really local governments and state governments are -- it's defaulting to us. and we have a large immigrant population in san francisco as it's well known in california and many cities throughout the united states. our sanctuary city laws are
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important to us and law enforcement because we're trying to build trust with our immigrant nonenglish speaking population. it's true that some of those will be undocumented before those laws came into place, it was only exacerbating and making public safety worse by the lack of reporting and the under reporting and the communities being preyed upon. as heinous and senseless as this tragedy is what it really dus is spotlights an impass and a tension between local, state and federal government because what is not working as it relates to ice and its practices purporting the local government needs. >> thank you so much for your perspective on this. appreciate it. it's a big national dialogue. >> my pleasure. >> good to get you to weigh in. >> bernie sanders is making
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. bernie sanders gaining momentum in iowa once considered a long shot. some polls suggest he's making striking gains on hillary. so what is her next move? let's ask ana navarro. and paul begala.
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paul is a senior advisor for a super pac supporting hillary clinton. i want to put up this latest poll. it's very interesting, because it shows where hillary clinton and berp and bernie sanders were just two months ago. bernie sanders has more than doubled his support of iowa caucus goers. that is these are iowa democrats. 15% to 33%. what do you make of these numbers? >> first, they're real. bernie is real. and it's a burden i carrie. and i hope it carry it with grace, this burden of prophecy. look at that number that 52 -- hillary will not get 52% in iowa in 209 days. nobody has gotten over 50% in the iowa caucuses in either
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party. she won't get 50. nobody does in my party or the republican party. this is going to be a real race. and i think actually that's good for the democratic party. >> ana, let me ask you something. do you believe that begala and his fellow lefties are so anxious for this robust process that he ably promotes or do you think they're worried that their big dog is slipping in the polls? >> both. >> what are your politician? >> it's nice to have your back, cuomo. i don't know where you've been all this week. enough with the fishing. get back to work. look i think, number one, they're playing the game of low expectations and number two they're looking at what's happening and they have to acknowledge it. he is getting thousands and thousands of people in relatively small states. he had a sellout crowd in maine yesterday. he had 10,000 people in wyoming
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thousands -- wisconsin. i also think that he's out there. he's answering questions. he's getting his tires kicked. there is a devastating union leader editorial leader today calling hillary clinton her royal clintonness. because you don't go to new hampshire and do the royal wave from behind ropes and not actually exchange with voters and press. and i think it's turning people off. >> paul? why is bernie sanders generating more excitement? >> there is enormous excitement on the populace left. there's always a liberal insurgent in my party. sometimes like barack obama, he wins. sometimes like howard dean he loses. they do great good for the par
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party. i do want to take up this editorial. the manchester union leader in new hampshire. hillary is doing exactly the opposite of what he did last time. last time it was a fair criticism. she ran like the queen of england coming in with her helicopter waving at the masses. this time she's going voter to voter person to person. she has been going voter to voter. that's i think the most important thing, is that she's going for the long haul person to person volt voteter to voter. i think the crowds bernie is drawing are real and fantastic and will continue to grow. she needed to start at the grass roots. that was the most important thing for her. >> paul, help me understand thing. you keep says she wants to take it to grass roots person by person. how do you square that with shutting out the media?
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>> you're not a person, cuomo. you're the media. >> that hurt my feelings but didn't help me understanding. >> i had my feelings surgically he moved years ago. sorry if i offended. no. she is the most famous woman in america perhaps, one of the most famous women in the world. yet what she wants to do is go person to person. that's why it was a terrible optic and i hope they're correcting it of roping off the press. it's horrible. >> you liked it. >> motivating people to talk without the pressure of the media filming them. >> is her new strategy now that she's giving this interview to cnn tonight, to begin speaking to the media and more access? >> first of all i'm really happy she's giving it to cnn. because one of the guys ropes up like cattle in those parades was cnn's dan.
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>> look how dan was testing the line. that's what we do at cnn, test the line. >> brianna keilar needs to show up with some box cutters in case they try and rope her in. they have to try to correct course. because she's not going voter to voter. all of her events have been prescreened, preselected, safe and skrichtcripted. that's not the way you do things this iowa certainly not the way you do things in new hampshire. i think people are getting kind of bored by it. >> thank you so much. thanks for previewing what is to come. be sure to tune in, both of you and everyone else later today. >> we'll be watching. >> hillary clinton's first national interview here on cnn will take place at 5:00 p.m. on the situation room and again on anderson cooper 360. she will be tested tonight. we'll be right back. ou're living with diabetes steady is exciting.
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