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week. thank you for joining us. as always we want to remind to you please set your dvr to report "outfront" so you can watch anywhere any time. anderson cooper "360" starts right now. good evening. thank you for joining us. a very big night ahead. hillary clinton's first national interview since entering the 2016 presidential race and you'll see it only here on cnn. first another big development in the bill cosby story. his admission about obtaining drugs who he planned to have sex with came to light. he made it under oath in a court deposition ten years ago and has tried to keep it under wraps. what may have persuaded the judge to make it public. >> reporter: it was learned the deposition was unsealed based at least in part on a controversial speech cosby gave in 2004. >> these are people going around stealing coca-cola. people getting shot in the back of the head over a piece of
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pound cake. and then we all run out and we're outraged. the comes shouldn't have shot him. what the hell was he doing with the pound cake in his hand? >> the judge cited cosby's moral high ground in his pound cake speech as a reason to release the deposition. writing that while cosby's celebrity status would not have been enough he had, quote donned the mantle of public moralist and mounted the proverb yam print soap box to volunteer his views on among other things child rearing, family life education and crime. with>ie@kñ a release of excerpts of that 2005 deposition it is bill cosby's own words that provide the strongest evidence so far for more than two dozen women. alleging the 77-year-old comedian drugged and raped them. in it cosby admitted to having seven prescriptions for quaaludes. he was asked, when you got the
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quaaludes, was in it your mine that you would use the quaaludes for young women that you wanted to have sex with? cosby responded, yes. that admission, thrilling to victoria valley enteeno who said he drugged her in 1970. >> i was absolutely elated. i couldn't stop screaming, you know. i was going, oh my god, oh my god. because obviously, we already knew. so this was just validation and vindication. >> the deposition also reveals when lawyers pressed cosby, asking did you ever give any of those young women the quaaludes without their knowledge? cosby's attorney stepped in telling him not to answer the question. he is also asked about another woman. quote she meets me backstage. i give her quaaludes. we then have sex, end quote. cosby also says, i can't judge at this time.
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>> and boris joins us now. we lost the audio and apologize for that. has bill cosby or his representatives made any comments about this? >> his attorney said no authorized comment has been put out and his publicists have said there are no plans to put out a comment so we'll have to wait and see. >> all right. thank you very much. joining us now, analyst mark geragos. it was record that there is at least one investigation still ongoing. also attorney and legal affairs commentator and dr. drew pinsky host of dr. drew. this deposition, the idea that it was made public because in part the judge said there was a stark contrast between bill cosby the public moralist and bill cosby the subject of allegations regarding improper conduct. does that make sense to you? >> it does in this sense. he was looking for this balancing of whether or not you're a public figure number
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one. and then what is the kind of compelling reason to keep it locked up. and he found, look if you're going to don the mantle of a public scold, so to speak, it will be released. the worst thing about this deposition besides the fact that lawyer should have tackled him before he answered some of these questions was the fact that now, they did not get this thing destroyed as part of the settlement agreement. and now this is going to reinvigorate the investigation that's already open in l.a. so some clever prosecutor, and i saw something on the wires about a candidate in pennsylvania who is going to try to if elected, gin up a perjury prosecution. and that's exactly what you worry about in a case like this. when somebody is out there making public statements and yet they know they've got sworn testimony that contradicts that that is a real problem. that's when you want to take a 2 x 4 to the client's head.
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>> you were saying cosby's attorney should not have let him answer these questions? >> absolutely. if you go farther in the deposition, you will see where the attorney finally, when the light bull goes off, tells him don't answer this. don't answer. the damage had been done by that point. he hadn't gotten to the last element of what they needed to prove that it was a rape by intoxication. but they provided everything else you need. in california there are new problems. there's a brand new statute that some creative prosecutor may use and this will give foder to other prosecutors in other jurisdictions where he is denying stuff. and where he's saying other things and making public pronouncements. a real problem. >> what do you make of the pound cake speech being used by this judge? >> we should be clear, a lot of
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people. a lot of people in the african-american community were livid with bill cosby about the contents of those speeches. he talked about african-american women and accused them of being welfare cheats and accused us as women of not taking care of our children. the speeches were really harsh criticisms of the african-american community. so it is iron pick that speech is what the judge says compelled him to release these documents. so many have not stood by bill cosby even when the deposition was revealed because of the speeches and the way that he so harshly criticized our community. >> dr. drew quaaludes in the '70s, for those who haven't read the deposition cosby is saying that he had a number of prescriptions for quaaludes going into the '70s. it was a pretty popular recreational drug was not it? >> it was. at one time before the benz diazepine class, the valium
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drugs the ambien drugs, those came along and replaced anything like this. quaaludes became almost exclusively a recreational drug. it was bizarre. by the time he seemed to be continuing to get prescriptions, it seems something that was not pribld for clinical purposes. there was so much available but there was better medication around and it is bizarre that he had prescriptions for quaaludes. >> it seems like it is saying he had prescriptions in the '70s for these quaaludes. this was a deposition in 2005. clearly those prescriptions would not have lasted. i don't think quaaludes are still manufactured in the united states. i don't think they are currently. >> that's right. >> i thought i was hearing '70s and '80s. even into the '80s, it is bizarre to get prescriptions for
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quaaludes. was he hoarding them? >> i assume he would swix to some other class of drugs by the '90s, the 2000s. >> it's possible. but i have to tell you, the way these women describe what happened to them, it did sound like a quaalude intoxication. the magnitude of the muscle relaxation. the fact they couldn't propagate through space. the degree to which that was a prominent system. the confusional state and the extreme mental difficulty with alcohol. that is consistent with quaaludes. these other medications, you have to take an awful lot of to get these effects. >> i was going to say, although a lot of the people that i see when they're testifying about ghb, having similar kind of narrative that they give. and you never really know because you don't know who is administering it and what kind of quantities things like that. the quaaludes, ironically within the last month, were also in the news in the hugh hefner
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thing where he supposedly is calling them thigh openers or something like that. there was a time when they were a very popular drug in california and in hollywood specifically. >> i remember stories about studio 54 and steve used to run the place, used to apparently have a jug of quaaludes that he would hand out to people from his office. three of the women accusing cosby of sexually assaulting them have a penaltying defamation lawsuit against hem. they say he defamed them when his agents' accusations were not true. could this public admission bolster that defamation case? >> absolutely. i think these women who now have again been vilified in the media and had to withstand all the denials from bill cosby and his team would use those statements to say, the whole point of defamation case is to prove truthful now we have evidence. we have truth that you did purchase drugs or somehow obtain drugs and you did so for the sole purpose of having sex with
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women. to create to prevent women from being conscious and to have sex with them. i think these statements are very damaging and very helpful to the women with defamation lawsuits. and it will empower other women to come forward. those who we heard on your show last night. there are probably 48 if not close to 100 more women who may have claims against bill cosby. and i think those women will come out of the wood work and we'll see more lawsuits being filed. >> make sure you set your dvr. how bill cosby has addressed these allegations, or handle addressed them or tried to deflect them. how his once considerable star power help him do that. later, hillary clinton's first national interview since declaring her run. and the majority isn't sure they can trust her.
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"360's" report on the gap and widening it. >> you wear funeral clothing? >> once america's favorite dad, now the king of no comment. bill cosby has yet to directly answer a question about the allegations of sexual assault leveled against him. listen to this response to abc in may. >> it's interesting. this is a situation that's unprecedented. my family my friends, i have been in this business 52 years and i will i've never seen anything like this. and reality is the situation. and i can't speak. >> reality is the situation. what he meant by that answer is still unclear. but at least he answered it sort of. on national public radio last
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fall during an interview that was supposed to be about cosby's artwork questions about the allegations were met with silence. >> this question gives me no pleasure, mr. cosby. there have been serious allegations raised about you in recent days. you're shaking your head no. i'm in the news business. i have to ask the question. do you have any response to those charges? shaking your head no. >> npr host scott simon shared more color about cosby's reaction with cnn. >> he gave that delightful little iish smile at first and then was silent and didn't answer the question. >> when an associated press reporter asked cosby last november if he wanted to comment on what his accusers said he got this. >> i have to ask about your name coming up in the news recently regarding this comedian -- >> no no we don't answer that. >> okay. i wanted to ask if you wanted to
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respond about whether or not any of that was true. >> there is no response. >> and then cosby took it one step further. >> can i get something from you? >> what's that? >> that none of that will be shown? >> i can't promise that myself. but you didn't say anything. >> and i would appreciate it if it was scuttled. >> i hear you. i will tell that to my editors and i think that they will understand. >> i think if you want to consider yourself to be serious, that it will not appear anywhere. >> backstage, before one of his shows in florida last november cosby wasn't up for talking much either. he told florida today, i know people are tired of me not saying anything but a guy doesn't to have answer to inwend overs. people should fact check. people shouldn't have to go through that and shouldn't answer to inwentos.
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or is the truth finally out? randi kaye cnn, new york. joining us, one of many women who has come forward who has spent several generations at vulnerable points in their careers and their lives. beverly johnson was already an accomplished and pioneering model. the first woman on vogue magazine. beverly when you hear bill cosby in that piece say these are innuendos, and given what he said in court documents, what is your reaction? >> well my reaction is when i read the court documents or when i hear him speak, i'm not surprised. i think that you know the truth has no expiration date on it.
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and the truth somehow finds its way to the light and out of the darkness and that's what has happened. >> to say that what you have said or others have said are innuendos these are specifying allegations with dates and times and very specific memories. and i hate to ask you to kind of relive this. but can you talk about what happened to you in the mid '80s? i understand you were in bill cosby's home reading for a part in the cosby show. i understand he took you upstairs after dinner and then what happened? >> well you know it is a much longer story. there was me actually going to the studio. the calling of the agency me going to the studio me bringing my daughter down to the studio and then it was the audition and then me bringing my daughter to his home and then the fourth
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meeting was when i was drugged by being offered a cappucino. i had the, i did my memoirs and i decided that i would tell this incident to the writer. and we did it. and my editor at the time at simon and shuster said i'm glad you did this chapter but it probably won't go in the book. and wasn't until after barbara bowen and after i did the piece on "vanity fair" that the publisher came back to me and said about that chapter, we would like to add it now. that's basically what's been going on. it is a metaphor for what has been going on for decades. we know these things are happening. we try to give it a voice and we get shut down when we do. and i'm here tonight on your
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show because i have a voice. and i want to be heard. i want to stand with the women who i believe have been abused and sexually assaulted. and i myself was drugged by cosby. >> and you mentioned this cappucino. you believe there was something in that cappucino. and i understand he was insistent that you drink it. >> yes. i took a sip and i immediately, i don't know what drug that was. but i immediately was woozy. i knew i had been drugged. and then i even took a second sip. and it was so overwhelming that drug in the cappucino, that i became enraged with him. i guess it was just a survival insingt and i think that's what saved me from what happened to the other women. >> you actually fought him off.
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>> and he tossed me out. >> well i called him a name and i couldn't stop saying that particular name. and comment. and eventually the next thing i remember is i was in a taxi and i actually managed to get my address out and i passed out in the taxi on the way home. >> and i understand you called him a few days later for an explanation. did you actually talk to him? >> well what happened was, i did after i recovered, which was a few days. i was livid. you go through a range of emotions. you're disappointed. you question yourself. i remember getting in the taxi and saying did i just call bill cosby an mf? here i am worried about him. before passing out. it is just -- so what happened was i did.
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once i, i wanted to confront him. and his wife answered the phone. and i thought, okay this is the number he gave me to call. and she said it's late or whatever. i was in california. i called new york. i got the time mixed up. and i just said well, you know camile, just tell bill i will be calling back. i wanted an explanation. and i realized i wasn't ever going to get that explained. and i realized what i was up against. and like most people or women, particularly, that encounter this kind of abuse, you don't say anything. it would be abnormal if you did. and i didn't. and i'll say another thing.
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that if i had known that he was that type of man, there would have been no way i would have gone to that house. it was shrouded. there was a circle of people that kept this so -- i had no idea. and by me not speaking out, and all of the other people that you know ran into this person and they not speaking it went on and decades after decades. then when people tried to it was covered up. but we're here now. we're here now. i think the message for me is that women, we do have a voice. and we should use it. and if i can convince a woman out there, or my daughter who is so proud of me and i have a 4-year-old granddaughter, that you must. you absolutely must speak up and have a voice. if anything like that ever happens to you. it is not okay. and it won't be tolerated.
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>> i appreciate you using your voice tonight and being with us. thank you so much. beverly johnson. >> when we come back hillary clinton campaigning in iowa. sitting down exclusively with cnn. she talks taxes and surprisingly long challenge from the left. she talks about trust as in how to earn it from skemtptical voters.
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in the first national television interview of her presidential campaign hillary clinton sat down in iowa. the interview covered everything from donald trump's immigration comments to why some americans don't find her trust worthy. we'll bring you the entire interview. here's part one. >> secretary clinton, thank you for talking to us today. you're here in iowa for a couple of events. you're the front runner in this state. we're also seeing bernie sanders attract a lot of attention. he has had big crowds here. 10,000 people in wisconsin last week. 7500 people in maine last night. why is it do you think someone
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who is a self-described democratic socialist is really attracting this organic interest that your campaign seems to be struggling a little bit with? >> well first of all, i always thought this would be a competitive race so i am happy to have a chance to get out and run my campaign as i see fit. and let other candidates do exactly the same. i feel very good about where we are in iowa. we are signing up thousands of volunteers, people committed to caucus for us. we have a committed supporter in everyone of the 1,600 precincts. and one of the things that i learned last time is it is organize organize organize. and you've got to get people committed and then they will follow through and then you bring more people. so i feel very good about where my campaign is. it will be three months and a few days that we've been at this. i think i've learned a lot from listening to people in iowa.
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and it is actually affected what i say and what i talk about on the campaign trail. so i couldn't be happier about my campaign. >> senator sanders has talked about how if he's president, he would raise taxes. he said to cnn's jake tapper he would raise them substantially higher than they are today. on big corporations on wealthy americans. would you? >> i will be laying out my own economic policies. everybody has to run his or her own campaign. i'm going to be telling the american people what i propose and how i think it will work and then we'll let voters make up their minds. >> is raising taxes on the table? >> i'm going to put out my policies and i'll let other people speak to their policies. i think we have to both grow the economy faster and fairer so we have to do what will actually work in the short term the medium term and the long term. i will be making a speech about my economic proposals on monday. and then i look forward to the
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debate about them. >> i'm wondering if you can address a vulnerability that we've seen you dealing with recently. we see in our recent poll that nearly 6 in 10 americans say they don't believe you're honest and trustworthy. do you understand why they feel that way? >> well, i think when you are subjected to the kind of constant barrage of attacks that are largely fomented by and coming from the right -- >> do you bear any responsibility for it? >> well i can only tell you that i was elected twice in new york against the same kind of onslaught. i was confirmed and served as secretary of state. and i think it is understandable that when questions are raised people maybe are thinking about them and wondering about them. i have every confidence that during the course of this campaign, people will know who
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will fight for them. that's what i will do. >> trusting someone to fight for them and trusting someone, these are two different things. do you see any role that you've had in the sentiment we've seen where people are questioning whether you're trustworthy? >> i can only tell you, brianna, that this has been a theme that has been used against me and my husband for many many years. and at the end of the day, i think voters sort it all out. i have great confidence. i trust the american voter. so i trust the american voter 100% because i think, you know, the american voter will weigh these kinds of accusations. people write books filled with unsubstantiated attacks against us. and even admit they have no evidence. it is your job to cover it. so of course that will raise questions in people's minds. during the course of the campaign, just as in my two prior campaigns, and in my other
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years of service, i have a lot of confidence the american people can sort it all out. >> would you vote for someone you don't trust? >> well people should and do trust me. and i have every confidence that will be the outcome of this election. i cannot decide what the attacks on me will be no matter how unfounded. and i'm well aware of the fact that it is your job to raise those and we'll do our best to respond to them. i think what people talk to me about and that's all i can go on is the, literally thousands of people that i've seen in the course of this campaign. they want to know what i'm going to do for the economy, what i'm going to do for education, what i'm going to do for health care. and they trust me to be committed to carry out that plan. and they should because i will. >> it's interesting, you asked her right off the top about bernie sanders. she basically just completely doesn't even seem to want to
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talk about bernie sanders. she makes no mention of him by name. she tried to avoid that. >> reporter: no she did. instead what she was saying essentially, anderson i'm going to play my game. he's going to play his game. and she was saying that she learned from 2008. that then senator obama bested her not just in enthusiasm but really in organization. in taking supporters and turning them into volunteers and caucusgoers on caucus night that helped him win here in iowa. so she is really trying to harness that organizing capability that his campaign was able to master last time she ran for president. we're seeing that today. this was an event to have some of her supporters here from different areas around iowa and to show she's learned her lesson. >> thank you very much. we'll have more of the interview coming up including what she has to say about donald trump's recent remarks about illegal immigrants from mexico. moved some new cars.
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the first interview for hillary clinton. she told what she thought of trurp trump's recent comments on immigration. >> donald trump is creating a lot of commotion on the other side. as he friend of yours and has been over the years. he donate to your campaign and the clinton foundation. what's your reaction to his recent comments that some mexican immigrants are rapists and criminals? >> i am very disappointed in those comments. i feel very bad and very disappointed with him and with the republican party for not responding immediately and saying enough stop it. but they are all in the same general area on immigration. they don't want to provide a path to citizenship. they raise across the spectrum of being grudgingly welcome or
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hostile toward immigrants. and i'm going to talk about comprehensive immigration reform. i'm going to talk about all the good law-abiding, productive members of the immigrant community that i personally know that i've met over the course of my life. that i would like to see have a path to citizenship. >> what about jeb bush's approach to that? it is different certainly than donald trump. >> he doesn't believe in a path to citizenship. if did he at one time he no longer does. pretty much as i said they're on a spectrum of hostility, which i think is really regrettable in a nation of immigrants like ours all the way to kind of grudging acceptance but refusal to go with a pathway to citizenship. i think that's a mistake. i think we know we're not going to deport 11 or 12 million people. we shouldn't be breaking up families. we shouldn't be stopping people from having the opportunity to be fully integrated legally within our country.
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it is good for us. it is good economically. it is good for the taxes that will be legally collected. it is good for the children so they can go as far as their hard work and talent will take them. so i am 100% behind comprehensive immigration reform that includes a path to citizenship. >> last week an undocumented immigrant who had been deported five times, killed a 32-year-old woman, kaipt steinle in san francisco a city where local law enforcement does not enforce immigration laws. when you last ran for president, you supported sanctuary cities. in light of this terrible incident, does that change anything about your view on this? >> well, what should be done is any city should listen to the department of homeland security which as i understand it urged them to deport this man again after he got out of prison another time. here's a case where we've deported, deported deported.
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he ends back up in our country. and i think the city made a mistake. the city made a mistake. not to deport someone that the federal government strongly felt should be deported. so i have absolutely no support for a city that ignores the strong evidence that should be acted on. however, there are, like if it were the first time traffic citation, if it were something minor a misdemeanor. that's entirely different. this man had been deported five times. and he should have been deported at the request of the federal government. >> what has changed when it comes to your approach with the media? we've seen you're doing this interview today. it has been since you declared that you've done a national interview like this. we saw a visual representation of the arms length with the rope incident this weekend in new hampshire. what has changed? why now? >> nothing has really changed.
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i have a different rhythm to my campaign. i'm not running my campaign for the press. i'm running it for voters. i totally respect the press and what the press has to do. i wanted and was determined to have the time that i needed to actually meet and listen to people. >> have you given any thought to the woman who should be on the $10 bill? >> you know i am very torn about it. i want a woman on a bill. i don't know why they picked the $10 bill. some people are advocating for the $20. >> i want a woman on the bill. and i think that it might be easier to change the 20 than it is to change the 10. we'll see. and i don't like the idea that as a compromise you would basically have two people on the same bill. one would be a woman. that sounds pretty second class to me. i think a woman should have her own bill. and it may be more appropriate to look at the 20 than the 10.
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we'll see. >> and finally, i know you've seen your new doneppelganger. she plays you and justin bieber. >> i wish i could sing. >> who is the better hillary clinton? >> amy is a friend of mine and kate is doing a great job. you're not going to get me to pick one or the other. i think i'm the best hillary clinton to be honest. i'm going to be my own little self and keep going along and saying what i believe in and putting forth the changes that i think would be good for the country. and you know i'm not looking for ratings. i'm looking for votes. >> a lot to talk about. correspondent john king anchor of inside politics and political times presidential campaign correspondent, maggie hagerman. for all the topics it seem like her comments about donald trump have gotten the most attention which tells you all need to know
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about the dynamics of the race. >> and the interview. look at her face and watch her interview when she is talking about donald trump, an issue which she thinks plays to her advantage. helps her appeal to latino voters and to others in the democratic base and take some swings at the republicans. not completely accurate swings about the other republican candidates on where they stand. but look at the energy and the passion and the emotion in her eyes when she is giving those answers compared to when she is being asked, why don't people trust you. >> right. unable to really answer that question. >> it tells what you she wants to shut down as fast as she can. >> jeb bush has responded to hillary clinton in part. and what he says is she is now running further to the left on immigration policy than even president obama's white house believes is legally feasible. hillary clinton will say anything to get elected and her numerous flip-flops on immigration prove it.
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he clearly sees an opening. >> that comment won't hurt her. she is running to the left of president obama on this issue. so she is able to present that to her voters i'm the person who jeb bush is concerned about on this topic. please vote for me. that's not a problem in terms of the democratic base. her interest is very much as john said it tells you where she sees this election going. it is going to be immigration reform, gun control. she has clearly got jeb bush on her mind. she was very clear. in answer to brianna about how he may have been for it once before but he isn't now. that was accusing him of a flip-flop. so i'm not surprised he hit her back the same way. >> the best case scenario for hillary is to run against jeb bush. that way neither can accuse the other of being old news or part of a dynasty. they basically cancel each other out on that whole criticism. >> there are people in both the
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republican campaigns and the clinton campaign who look at this differently. some agree with you, if you have jeb bush number one, you have the two dynasties. it is what it is. there are others that worry more about marco rubio if he could pull off winning the republican nomination. look the clinton campaign assumes jeb bush will be the nominee. they assume the republican party will go back to its normal dna and elect an establishment guy. they know he's had trouble but they know he has the name and the net work and the money. jeb bush would be a very tough general election opponent because of his popularity in a state called florida. the clinton campaign. maggie has this dead right. yes, they think jeb bush will be the republican nominee. they're not certain because the republican race is such a mess right now. so don't worry about who that nominee will be. look at the last two elections. if you can get 67%, 70% of the latino vote and get them to turn out. if you can get 92 94 95% of the american vote and get the turnout to match 2012 they
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think they win no matter who the republicans nominate. plus they think she'll get advantage of being the first female candidate. >> brianna asked her twice about the under trustworthiness issue and it is a real issue. look at the poll numbers. the majority of mernls say they don't trust her. those number have gotten worst in the past year. early on one of the things people said about hillary clinton she is a known quantity. if she is a known quantity and the majority of americans don't trust her, that doesn't seem to bode well. >> the way her people would look at i, and they're not wrong. this is a problem if this race is in a vacuum but it's not. so those negatives will be what they will be. and i think they assume based on a number of statements she is trying to make the entire republican party own donald trump. >> she is trying to equate his views with the rest of the gop. >> and she will do that repeatedly. and frankly, there has been an opening created for that to happen.
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so the hope is going to be on the democratic side. they'll make the republicans so their negatives so high so toxic to her voters to hispanic voters especially that it won't be that big a problem. obviously she has taken a hit. and i think that she has not answered a lot of the questions. i was in new hampshire over the weekend and the number of her voters who said to me in hanover new hampshire, i really like her but i would like her to talk about these e-mails. i would like 34 answer questions on these issues. these speed bumps was what was used repeatedly. they want to hear from her. >> good to have you on. john king as well. we'll have more of the exclusive interview in the 9:00 hour. and tomorrow i'll be interviewing donald trump. tune in for that. we'll be right back. a lot more ahead including breaking news, the subway sandwich chain is suspending ties after an early morning raid at his home. we'll tell what you feds were looking for and what kind of
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relationship with jarod fogle. he is now 37. shot to fame 15 years ago after losing more than 200 pounds in part through a diet of subway sandwiches. the question is what were authorities looking for at his house? ryan young has been digging on the story. what are your sources telling us as to why the home was raided? >> reporter: that's the question everyone wants answers to. at this point we know investigators showed up around 6:30 this morning them did execute that raid at the home. his children and his wife were allowed to leave and then investigators brought out computers and hard drives. they even had electronic sniffing dogs in the area so they could see if there was any hidden electronics in the home. we're hoping at some point, investigators give us some of the reasons why they were there. we know that a former jarod foundation employee has been arrested and charged with child porn allegations. so right now, we have to wait and see to see ma whatever investigators were able to pull off those hard drives and
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computers. >> so in a statement today, subway and jarod fogle said it was a mutual decision to part ways. is that right? it sounds like trying to put a good face on things. >> reporter: we were twafg website throughout the afternoon and we started to see the stuff being skrubld off the website. and they mention that had subway and jarod fogle have mutually agreed to suspend the their relationship due to the colonel investigation. jarod continues to cooperate with authorities and he expects no actions to be forthcoming. both jarod and subway agreed this was the appropriate step to take. there have been no charges to jarod now but everyone is trying to figure out why investigators would show up so early in the morning and then going through hard drives and everything else. >> on the child porn connection that's a guy who ran his foundation has been charged with child pornography? >> reporter: yes, he has. in fact he faces seven charges.
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they say they have text messages computers that show not only did he have cameras set up at his home but they're starting to do the forensic files through his computers to show maybe he was involved in some child pornography. >> all right. appreciate your reporting. our live coverage continues into the next hour with more reaction to bill cosby's bombshell admission and another person whose career was just beginning when she crossed paths with cosby. and i'll talk to a d.a. who decided not to bring charges ten years ago and with what he's learned now, would this have changed his mind? if you're taking multiple medications does your mouth often feel dry?
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