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we begin with breaking news from the new york stock exchange. just after 11:30 east they were morning, the exchange halted trading in all stocks following what the exchange called technical issues. adding to the intrigue the "wall street journal's" home page stopped functioning about the same time and earlier today united airlines computer systems malfunctioned. the department of homeland security tells cnn there is no sign of malicious activity in any of these vents. the white house press briefing is expected to start at any moment and we'll bring that to you as it happens. but let's discuss all of this. we have our reporters covering this in the seconds this is happening and things are changing second by second. you see elise labott our global affairs correspondent at the state department, our aviation and government regulation correspondent rene marsh is here and from the floor of the new york stock exchange cnn business correspondent alison kosik. alison let's start with you.
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it's certainly not the way the floor of the exchange looks at 1:00 in the afternoon in the middle of the day. tell us the update about what you're hearing about when it could be back up and running. >> ashleigh that's anyone's guess. you walk around and talk with some of these traders, they have no idea. although one trader one of my producers talked with speculated if trading doesn't get up and running by 2:30 his thinking this is from one trader, is that you're seeing business not even happening the rest of the day. we shall see if that happens. the official word from the new york stock exchange is that this is a technical glitch that happened at 11:30. traders i talked to said they gotten a indication of some system wide problem before the opening bell when they gotten a alert in the new york stock exchange an e-mail that included a list of 220 stocks that showed some sort of technical glitch but that apparently was resolved around 10:4045. then you had this other
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technical glitch or maybe it was related, then you had this halt in trading. there is a sigh of relief that the official sword this is not a cyber attack. but there's also a lot of question as to what happened here in the first place, ashleigh. >> alison, it's dana, i know it's hard to keep track when you're doing breaking news. but on the issue of the fbi, they have assistance to the stock exchange correct? >> sorry, i didn't hear you. >> the fbi. tell us about how they're assisting the stock exchange. >> they have assisted but you know what's interesting is that the exchange says this is merely a technical issue. in fact, the operations center that is literally here on the floor of the new york stock exchange is bustling right now trying to figure out what the problem is trying to fix it. but, of course yes, that was offered from the fbi. >> okay stand by for one minute alison i want to go
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back into the studio. rene marsh, i have been watching you working your sources. tell us what you know about what the backdrop is here burglarly when it comes to what happened with united? >> so that was a mess. if you were trying to get on our own brianna keilar trying to get on a flight some 4900 flights were impacted worldwide as far as their operations. the problem was a router essentially that impacted their computer system it was not allowing their computers to essentially talk to one another so you saw a lot of this which is what you're looking at lines at airports across the country. we do know as we speak at this hour the computer problem has been resolved but the damage is already done. i mean, the delays are happening, people are not able to get to their destinations as we speak so they have to be patient because the system has to get going. although flights are taking off,
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you have crew members that may have timed out. it's one big mess. i did get some information from a source who says that their investigators have looked into what caused this system wide breakdown here this system wide shutdown as far as their computer systems and they determined that it is not the work of hackers. they say it's not connected to what happened at the new york stock exchange either. they have determined it's solely a technical glitch relate to that faulty router not enabling their computer systems to talk to one another. so this source knocking down this idea that perhaps this was a vulnerability, a cyber attack saying it's not at that at this point. >> "at this point." that's the key. renne rene stand by. i want to go to the white house where jim acosta is. jim, i don't think you have to be that skeptical of a report y ere to say wait a minute, the united airlines, the stock
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exchange and the "wall street journal" having these problems in and around the same time. what are you hearing from sources at the white house? >> it's sort of the glitch that roared this morning, dana. but at the white house they are not that alarmed by this. they say the president has been briefed on the situation, that white house officials and treasury department officials are monitoring the situation but they're saying for further questions they refer us to the new york stock exchange and the securities and exchange commission as you know, the stock exchange as alison just said, is sayings that technical glitch. united airlines is saying this is a computer problem on their end, and the "wall street journal" is back up and running but as you said we are a suspicious bunch, dana, so thereby there will be a lot of questions asked at the press briefing. josh earnest, i'm sure will be peppered with questions about that in part because, dana they know a thing or two about hackers at the white house. the white house has been hacked in recent months by the russians and potentially by the chinese
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so this is something they have their eye on. when the north koreans were accused by this administration of hacking sewnony pictures this president took it seriously, administration policy was changed so they could go after international hackers in the future with sanctions so they feel like they're armed to go after what they need with hackers if something like that two break out again but at this point they don't believe this was anything malicious as the department of homeland security is saying at this point, they don't believe anything malicious went on and the fbi, which is offering its assistance, put out a statement saying that no law enforcement activity is required at this time. so that's an end dprags a law enforcement standpoint that they believe along with just about every aspect of the federal government here that this was a glitch, a big glitch at the stock exchange and united airlines and the "wall street journal." dana? >> jim, thank you for that report. we'll watch the white house briefing and you and others peppering the white house press secretary about this very issue.
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i want to go back to the state department to elise labott. elise, you have been following stories like this for some time and we know the chinese have been accused of hacking the government and others. what are you hearing about -- everybody is saying "glitch, glitch glitch" along the way but, again, it's kind of hard to imagine that all of these glitches happened at the same time. what are you hearing from their sources? >> well they're saying "glitch, glitch glitch" and they all seem terribly coincidental right now. but i think the level of concern by the administration is obvious by the fact that the president has been briefed on this, that the fbi did reach out to the new york stock exchange and by the fact that the treasury is monitoring, the state department is monitoring everybody is keeping an eye on this even though they don't -- you think these technical glitches right now, you have to look at the climate this country is in right now in terms of hacking. jim just eluded to the fact that
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recently u.s. government computers were hacked believed to be by china, thousands of u.s. employee personnel records and security records were hacked into. this country isviller inable right now. you remember last year with the sony attack. so this is what hackers do in fact. they try to create fear in the public, in the markets and that's why everybody is keeping such an eye on. this right now they're saying it's no glitch these are just coincidental whacky technical glitches but i wouldn't be surprised if you look in the next couple of days that they find something, dana. >> okay elise, thank you very much. we'll get back to you as you continue your reporting over there and we'll talk more about this now with tom fuentes, cnn's law enforcement analyst and former fbi assistant director. tom, united airlines says it was a rouder problem. the new york stock exchange says it's not a cyber breach. you're an investigator if you were there right now at the fbi investigating, what would you be looking?
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>> well, what they'll be doing, dana is it's more than just the fbi making a phone call and saying "are you guys okay? thanks. we're here never mind." they closely monitor and work very closely with these institutions and industries because they're part of the u.s. national critical structure. we're talking aviation, we're talking our financial markets, we're talking mass communications with newspapers. and what they're looking gnat cases like that is trying to determine if it was any kind of an external attack in any way of on system which is even could just be a test pink by anotherg by another country or an organized crime group for a prelude to war or extortion where they're testing to see if they can shut it down if they can get into the system or was it just a piece of hardware internally, a router went bad or something else happened and it's ees's coincidental. this isn't just casual phone calls over to these companies so
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see what happened. they are closely investigating. >> and what is your -- i'm going to put you on the spot here. what is your sense. is your job to be as skeptical as we are as reporters? the fact that all of these big, big, big organizations had glitches at pretty much the same time? does that make you think that it was just a coincidence or maybe something? >> i'll put it this way, my job as an investigator and supervisor of informations is to not form an opinion too early because then subconsciously you'll try to prove yourself right. so we don't have enough information to say yes it looks like how can it be this coincidental but i think it's too early. let's look at these system what happened internally with each of these companies and their it systems to determine what happened. >> and, tom, i want to go back to a point elise was making an
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important one which is regardless even if this is just a coincidence, it's a reminder of how vulnerable we are, whether it comes to government computers, our personal information to a cyber attack. in fact coincidentally, the homeland security secretary jeh johnson is giving a piece is on cyber security that was planned before as we speak. this should be a wakeup call as if we needed that right? >> no we shouldn't need it. this is something -- i belt if this when i was still in the fbi. this goes back to the early 1990s, the fear of information warfare and the fear that the u.s. is the most vulnerable country in the world because we're the most reliant on our computer systems we always worried whether it was an organized crime group or an attack for another country that somebody that malicious with a class a team of hackers like some countries have if they could shut our systems down -- aviation, the power grid, the water pumping, communications satellite systems, if they could
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shut that down they could turn the united states into somalia. and that was always the fear and still is the fear and the effort to prevent anything like that from being possible. >> absolutely. very very scary. tom, i want you to stand by and our reporters working their sources. we'll follow the breaking news from the new york stock exchange but we'll take a quick break and while we do remind you that all trading has been suspended because of a computer breach we're awaiting a briefing from the white house. we'll have much more after this break. stand by. no artificial flavors, colors sweeteners preservatives, and no artificial smiles. because clean dressings, taste better. panera. food as it should be. new york state is reinventing how we do business by leading the way on tax cuts. we cut the rates on personal income taxes. we enacted the lowest corporate tax rate since 1968. we eliminated the income tax on manufacturers altogether. with startup-ny, qualified businesses that start, expand or relocate to new york state
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we're back with breaking news about what they are calling computer glitches almost simultaneously at the "wall street journal," the new york stock exchange and united airlines. and just before coming back before the break, the homeland security secretary, who happened to have been giving a speech on this topic, cyber security at this hour said about this issue he does not believe that they are a result of a nefarious
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actor, he said they know less about the "wall street journal" than new york stock exchange and united airlines. we'll be getting that for you and turning it around for you as soon as we can. while we do that i want to go back to our business correspondent alison kosik who, again, is on the floor of the new york stock exchange right now which, as we said, is not trading and hasn't been for almost two hours. alison you have a guest there, tell us who you have and what's happening there? >> reporter: okay dana. we're here with keith bliss. he is a trader on the new york stock exchange floor. i wanted to bring him in to get a little more idea about whether or not you saw any indication of any kind of technical glitch before the halt. >> not right before the halt. the music just stopped playing and we had to redirect and call customers and do other things but we did have a technical malfunction before the open which is not that uncommon. we see that every now and then there may be a module inside of the system that may go blank and they send out a notification. so happened on about 220 stocks.
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that would have been the only indication but we didn't think that was going to lead to a halt or technical malfunction later in the session. >> did the new york stock exchange just put in software? could this be something related to new software from the new york stock exchange? >> everybody needs to understand the new york stock exchange has to roll out new software updates constantly. sometimes many times during the week, whether it's regulatory changes or rule changes or how we handle the stock trading here on the floor. that's my understanding is that they did come out with an update last night, they rolled it out. it's unclear whether that caused the malfunction, but i'm sure that's one area they're looking toot see if that was the primary cause. >> in the past when the stock exchange has rolled out new software, have there been glitches in the past? even small? >> not that i've ever seen. now, the specialist the designated market makers as we call them, they're the ones that would be on the front lines for those software updates because when they do that, the systems set the impact. we use systems in the brokerage community and what i do from other vendors. so i've not heard of them having
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problems in the past but, again, it's software and software can malfunction and software they use in handling orders from around the globe and making sure orders can be represented appropriately, not only in this market but the u.s. markets is incredibly complex. so it's not unreasonable to think something may have gone wrong there. >> reporter: at this point it's anyone's guess when everything here at the exchange will be back online. is there a chance that trading may not happen the rest of the afternoon? >> there's always that chance. the new york stock exchange has assured us they'll try to get back online. the timing i've heard is around 2:30, between 2:00o'clock and 2:30. it's a very long outage for an interday session. but most volume happens at the beginning and the end of the day so we want to have the primary market open for the last half hour of trading. >> reporter: how can this upset the am cart or change the algorithms of the trading when the stock exchange does get back online. how does it just sort of -- is it a seamless process?
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>> i'm not sure it's seamless and algorithms are different and there's literally hundreds of thousands of them that operate within the markets right now. a lot of the algorithms sniff out liquidity where the most liquidity and the best price is. so when the new york stock exchange comes back online for the majority of stocks listed, the lick wickty should come back. >> >>. >> reporter: trading is still happening. you're not seeing panic? >> not at all. we traded down for things happening in china and the greece situation still unfolding. we're trading at a couple critical levels. i'm impressed at the resiliency of our markets and you are -- that's an important point aels son. you're able to represent your orders in marketplace given the structures we have. there's interconnected markets. most stocks listed in the new york stock exchange trade in the other markets so you can find liquidity somewhere. >> trading happening elsewhere, dana dana just not at the new york
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stock exchange. back to you. >> before i let you go i want to ask a follow-up about kind of the -- you talked about algorithms but there's the feel of the stock exchange and what happens when markets get spooked. your trader said he didn't think they were going to get spooked but you never know when it comes to is stocks and people stocks and people might be looking at this thinking "my money is in my 401(k) it's in the stock market, if this kind of thing can happen maybe i need to take my money out." are you hearing that concern for from any other traders or experts on the floor? >> i'm not hearing that. and, keith, you're not hearing about anyone being spooked about this technical glitch. any chance when trading does resume we may see some volatility because of what happened at the stock exchange today? >> you can't predict what the behavior will be for everybody. nobody here is panicked or spooked. as i've been telling my
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colleagues today. if we got spooked or panicked by something like this we here in the wrong business. we deal with things that are of far greater risk and importance. so we may see volatility when we reopen stocks or maybe people that get spooked and want to pull out of the market but i think most professional investors and traders won't be spooked. >> reporter: very strange to stand here though dana on the exchange floor and not see the numbers moving. it's very odd. >> it looks very odd. people might not be spook bud it looks spooky from the outside looking in. thank you for that. i appreciate it. i want to bring in jane lute a former deputy secretary for the department of homeland security now ceo for the center for internet security and, jane let's get your reaction to what's happening at the new york stock exchange and also this morning at united airlines and the "wall street journal." >> well thanks dana. i think you've been touching on the key points. i mean, the first point is is
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that the first reports are always wrong when you get the facts and know what's happened. very often people see a dot, they think an incident two dots is a line three dots is a trend and that's what we have here is three dots. so we need to know more. i can say also that the chances in the utilities of america and our economy today that we'll have multiple episodes concurrently of glitches and outages and even cyber attacks is 100%. so this is life as we know it today. >> so are you saying that you do think is it come bleatly plausible that this is just coincidence or are you skeptical? >> no i'm -- no these episodes seem -- appear to have been reported concurrently and may have happened concurrently. that doesn't mean they're related or malicious. >> okay one last question before i let you go. if you were still in the government, the department of homeland security or now with
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clients dealing with internet security what would you be looking for and what would you be telling your clients? >> well we would be looking for signs that there was something malicious but so far there doesn't appear to be as we heard from officials. there's not an enterprise in our marketplace that delivers value without relying on it and access to the internote? we would be emphasizing and reminding people this is the point where they need to undertake basic cyber high gene that prevents 85% of what we know causes attacks and using this opportunity to remind people of the importance of basic cyber hygiene. to change the game in terms of vulnerability for cyber events. >> basic cyber hygiene. that's a 2015 term. thank you, jane lute for joining us on the phone. i now want to talk more about the global impact of this. this program is being seen around the world. joining me from cnn international business desk is correspondent maggie lake.
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maggie trading was shut down just at the new york stock exchange but talk about global consequences. >> it's really the timing of this that's problematic. this is hitting a market that's already nervous about so many other things primarily greece and the debt crisis there, whether they'll leave the eurozone or be forced out. and china, china stock markets have been volatile, in freefall over there and many shares suspended in trading there. so global investors already sort of unnerved uncomfortable and selling and see something happening in the u.s. which we don't see very often. as keith mentioned, this is a long outage for the new york stock exchange almost two hours very soon. you can bet officials there want to try to make sure they have this resolve sod when they do open they're able to open smoothly. keith is right, that's a busy part of the day. even for investors not sitting in the u.s. it's a high volume time, that last hour two hours on the new york stock exchange.
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they want to make sure if they open they can get it done. this is going to hurt confidence of investors who not only have these current worries but have been through an awful lot. the financial crisis, the flash crash, a lot of them losing faith they can trust when they put a trade in it will get executed. so it's a concern but not something we're likely to see last if they can get open and get that closed. >> that's what i was trying to get at with alison about the idea that people who are schooled in this -- the stock exchange people who work there everyday might say okay let's get over there and move on but people out in middle america, people in all parts of the world might be saying well, wait a minute, if my life savings is there and a computer can do this maybe i should rethink where i have my money. it might just be a brief thing but it might be enough to get people worried. >> absolutely. it's real and it's something that officials i'm sure are very
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conscious of. listen this is showing whether it's a computer glitch or something more serious it's showing once again how vulnerable these markets are and, dana after 9/11 i saw and we all reported on the massive money and effort that went in to putting contingency plans in place so the markets could be secure and immune from any shutdown. this shows despite everything that happened, there still is much work to do to make sure that you don't have a suspension of trade. investors are right to be nervous. i will say for those concerned you don't want to do anything today. this is not the time to get involved to try to sell. just sit back let this pass let the professionals handle the reopening and sit down with a cooler mind and figure out how you feel about your investments. but it's an issue this is going to be another blow to confidence. >> maggie lake, thank you. we'll continue to monitor these three major computer glitches derailing the new york
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stock exchange, the "wall street journal" and united airlines. we're await for a brief from the white house. we'll bring it live when it happens.
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updating the breaking news this hour, the new york stock exchange, the "wall street journal" and united airlines all hit by technical glitches today. so far, there have been no indications of hacking. the department of homeland security tells cnn there is no sign of malicious activity at the stock exchange or at united airlines. the "wall street journal" said it's experiencing technical difficulties and its full site should return shortly. as for united the airline says a router issue caused the problem and has since been fixed. a white house briefing is expected at any moment and we'll bring that to you live. but first let's go to cnn business correspondent alison kosik who is on the floor of the
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stock exchange getting a sense of frankly how it feels to be there pretty much exactly two hours now after the stock exchange has halted because of these glitches. >> and you're not seeing any numbers moving or traders doing their work they're just waiting around waiting to see if and when how soon the new york stock exchange can get its computers back online. there's an operation control center in the middle of the floor where some poll been put up to keep people out so they can have room to work and try and figure out what the problem is. because the thing is no one knows what caused this glitch. some are speculating that it could have been a software rollout will the new york stock exchange rolled out last night and possibly when it was put into action today possibly caused the glitch. the new york stock exchange did send out an alert to the traders
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on the stock exchange on the floor of the stock exchange before trading began sending out a list of 220 stocks that may have a technical glitch. that was reportedly fixed by around 10:45 this morning then at around 11:30, trading just stopped here on the floor of the exchange. the music, as one trader said, the music stopped here on the stock exchange floor. >> and what are you hearing about the latest prediction of when trading could come back if at all, today? >> well i'm hearing it runs the gum mutt. i'm hearing the stock exchange down in the middle right now of decide when to reopen trading, they could be close to discussing when to reopen trading. another trader told me if trading isn't back up and running by 2:30 this afternoon, which is about an hour away his thinking is that the exchange won't open up because you think about it, if they open up trading and it glitches again, that's probably only going to
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compound the problem dana. >> thank you, alison we'll come back to you as we learn when and if the new york stock exchange is going to open back up trading and i want to turn back to something that happened this morning with united airlines, a computer malfunction causing all flights to be grounded. united is back up and running now. we're not exactly clear why this happened and how this hand. i want to go to mary schiavo, a cnn aviation analyst and former inspector general with the u.s. department of transportation. mary schiavo, tell me from your perch and dealing with things like this maybe not this widespread, what do you think happened here? i'm sorry, unfortunately, mary schiavo, i won't let you answer. that i'll get back to you in one second. let's listen to the white house briefing. >> this afternoon the president was briefed by his homeland security advisor lisa monaco and the white house chief of staff
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dennis mcdonough about technical issues being experience bid the new york stock exchange. ms. monaco told the president that at this point there's no indication that malicious actors are involved in these technology issues. she informed the president that the new york stock exchange officials have been close n close touch with the department of homeland security with the securities and exchange commission as well as the treasury department. the officials at the stock exchange are working feverishly as you would expect to try to resolve the situation for an update on their efforts. i'd encourage you contact them. the president told ms. monaco and mr. mcdonough that he wanted to be updated on the situation over the course of the day. at this point there is no indication malicious actors were involved in these technology issues. so with that we can talk about
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this some more or take other questions you may have today. >> reporter: sure thank you. even though you say there's no indication that malicious actors are involved, is that something federal authorities are still kind of being on guard for as they continue to look into what happened? >> well obviously the administration is keenly aware of the risk that exists in cyberspace right now. there are a number of step this is administration has taken. i would point out that the stock exchange is an example of a private sector entity that has a strong relationship with the federal government and one of the most important elements of our strategy for safeguarding the nation's computer networks from cyber threats is effective communication and sharing of information between private sector officials and the federal government particularly those elements of the federal government that are responsible
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for responding to cyber threats. the new york stock exchange does have an effective information sharing relationship with the federal government and i think the information i shared with you is afternoon indication of how valuable that information sharing can be. >> reporter: did the federal government take any steps to beef up its own cyber security defenses or anything like that? >> well, the federal government is obviously very vigilant about the steps that we need to take to protect federal computer systems. the kind of security measures that are in place are sometimes obvious to the general public sometimes they aren't. we also work aggressively to make sure that the kind of defenses we have in place reflect the threats we perceive.
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i don't have any steps that we've taken at this point to tell you but i can assure you that officials even on days when these kinds of questions are not lingering in the air are very vigilant about their need to adapt to an environment in cyberspace that is filled with malicious actors. >> reporter: on the hill today, senator schumer and portman unveiled a plan to overhaul the way u.s. companies pay taxes on foreign profits and some of the money they would propose using for infrastructure roads, bridges, et cetera. do you have any reaction or comment on the fraum work they're talking about? >> well senator schumer and portman have communicated to the administration about their report and we applaud their interest in this area. >> and you hear that the white house press secretary has moved
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on to other issues. but he made clear based on what the administration knows, no malicious activity has been involved, the president was briefed by his homeland security advisor lisa monaco again, that there's nothing malicious and that they are continuing to watch the new york stock exchange as well as the "wall street journal". we are going to keep checking in with our sources and reporters. we'll take a quick break but don't go away. hillary clinton came out swinging in a wide ranging exclusive cnn interview. how she took on her republican rivals on immigration. plus the one candidate she wouldn't attack. we'll discuss it with our panel of experts. stay with us. this allergy season, will you be a sound sleeper, or a mouth breather. well, put on a breathe right strip and instantly open your nose up to 38% more than allergy medicines alone. so you can breathe and sleep. shut your mouth and sleep right. breathe right. you pay your car insurance premium like clockwork. month after month.
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hillary clinton says she is 100% behind comprehensive immigration reform that includes a path to citizenship. it's a central part of her platform and in her exclusive
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interview with cnn's brianna keel already a, clinton attacked the stance of jeb bush. >> they're a spectrum of hostility in a nation of immigrants like ours all the way to grudging acceptance but refusal to go with a pathway to citizenship. >> let's continue this discussion with gloria borger jeff zeleny and senior political reporter nia-malika henderson. first i wanted to mention that jeb bush's camp immediately responded in a statement saying hillary clinton has once again changed her position on an issue for political expedient purposes after voting for the poison pill amendment that stopped immigration reform in its tracks as a senator and saying she believed the unaccompanied minors should be sent back to their home countries last year she running further to the left on immigration policy than even
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president obama's white house believes is legally feasible. hillary clinton will say anything to get elect and her numerous flip-flops on immigration prove it." i wonder what he really thinks. it's going to be a long election. >> it is. but i first want to go to you, jeff, you got back from capitol hill on another response to an important news-maching part of this interview brianna did when hillary clinton said she hasn't received a subpoena from the benghazi committee. you talked to its chairman. >> pointedly she said she's never received a subpoena. we got back with from trey gowdy who showed us a copy of the subpoena issued on march 4 that she was clearly subpoenaed about these e-mails, the clinton campaign has not clarified her comments. we've been trying to talk to them since last night. they say they're working on a clarification. so i think it will be having to do with the private e-mails versus public e-mails but it just goes to show that e-mail controversy is not going away because there is a copy of the
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subpoena. we'll have more on that on "the lead" at 4:00. >> maybe it got erased on the server. [ laughter ] >> it says "to the honorable hillary. are. clinton." so it's a clear subpoena. >> i want to go to other parts of the interview i thought were fascinating. what is just about what she told brianna briannaee -- brianna that she learned in 2008 about her strategy to win. watch this. >> one of the things that i learned last time is it's organize organize organize and you have to get people committed and then they will follow through and then you bring more people. so i feel very good about where my campaign is, it will be three months in a few days we've been at this. i think i've learned a lot from listening to people in iowa and it's actually affected what i say and talk about on the campaign trail. >> gloria obviously organize, organize, organize should be the
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central component to any good campaign. >> right, but particularly with the iowa caucuses because it's all about getting a small group of devoted --in the case of democratic party in iowa very liberal caucus goers who might be attracted to bernie sanders. it's making your case corralling them literally, getting them to caucuses so they will support you. hillary clinton had a bad experience in iowa last time she ran and she understand what is it's like to be on the wrong side of that so they've got a lot of money, they're spending it, they're organizing she's sending a lot of time there and she's hoping that in that way she can become more relate to believe caucus goers who may have doubts about her. >> let's face it that's how you win iowa. when she said to brianna, she's not running for the media -- she isn't. >> she's right. >> well, it was an implicit critique of bernie sanders. they were talking about bernie
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sanders getting these crowds in places like maine and wisconsin and here she is saying it's not necessarily about the crowds that you can draw but this boring work behind the scenes where it's door to door and you're organizing folks. it doesn't make poor good press releases or television but in terms of what you need to do, the nuts and bolts of campaigning. i talked to donors about this too. they can tell the difference between what this campaign is like going into 2016 versus what it was like in 2008. >> now i think it's fair to say hillary clinton had her answers ready. [ laughter ] that's the diplomatic way to say it. but there was one kind of really unscripted part. maybe not news making but interesting. watch this. >> have you given any thought to the woman who should be on the $10 bill? >>. [ laughter ] you know i am very torn about it. i want a woman on a bill. i don't know why they picked the
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$10 bill. some people are agitated for the $20. >> do you think it should be the $20? >> i want a woman on the bill and i think that it might be easier to change the $20 than it is to change the $10, but we'll see. >> >> you know gloria, never mind the substance of what she was saying. when i was watching her, it reminded me of the fabulous piece that you did when she announced talking to those people who know her so well saying we don't really know the hillary that's comfortable. >> right. >> and just talks like a human being. she really did that there. >> it was clearly not a question she anticipated, and she was thinking it through in her mind but as a woman, yeah she would like to see a woman on bill and maybe a woman on a $20 bill and not the $10 bill and it's a little bit of lifting the veil. i think the problem with hillary clinton is that she puts the veil on herself. in addition to being briefed and giving the answers to -- to brianna's questions, she does do
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that to herself. >> that's what she sounds like in the house parties when she's out meeting people. is laughing a lot. when you hear that laugh, that's a genuine hillary clinton moment. >> something we're not seeing which might not be the end of the world. what struck you about that? >> i thought she's really talking about this cultural moment we're in that in some ways benefits her, this idea that it's time for a woman to be on -- on either a 10 or 20 or in the white house as well so i thought that was interesting and very in the weeds there right? >> she was debating is it the 10 or 20 didn't give any names who she thought should be on it. >> they actually aren't alive to be alive so she's not ready for that. maybe later, one day. >> gloria, thank you so much. clinton also had some choice words about republican candidate donald trump and his derogatory remarks about mexican immigrants. trump will speak for himself
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no malicious activity. that's what white house spokesman josh earnest has said about the computer glitch on wall street that shut down trading at new york stock exchange. joining me now from capitol hill is new jersey senator robert menendez and let's get straight to it. when it comes to this issue but maybe more broadly the question of cyber security what are your
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thoughts on this? >> well look i think increasingly the challenge of cyber security is a national deal it's a national imperative. so many of our financial systems, our energy systems, a wide spectrum of our society is driven by technological opportunities to be affected by a cyber attack so as we saw with what happened with the files of tens of thousands of federal employees and the effect that it had there, we can understand the effect that it could have more broadly, so i'm -- you know i'm looking forward to continuing to hear what the government says. i mean it's not just the stock exchange. i understand the "wall street journal" had a challenge others all happening at the same time. it makes me question what is really happening, but we'll have to continue to be vigilant and i think we have to have a more aggressive effort on cyber security nationally and working
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with the private sector as well because this is the new frontier of security challenges. >> absolutely. senator, let's move on to iran. you have been -- you were an early and outspoken critic of the iran talks as a member of the foreign relations committee, at the time chairman you pushed to make sure that congress has its imprint on the talks. and i want to read you part of a column from tom freedmaniedman. he said recently it feels like it's always our side looking to accommodate iran's needs. i wish we had just walked out once. when you signal to the guy on the other side of the table that you're not willing to either blow him up or blow him off to keep -- to get up and walk away you reduce yourself to just an equal and get the best bad deal nonviolence can buy. that's pretty harsh, but it kind of sounds like what you've been saying. >> well when i read tom friedman's column about a week ago, i said, wow, this is
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exactly what i've been saying. tom friedman's been generally pretty good to the administration on a whole host of foreign policy issues. look i think it's right spot on and the title of that column a good bad deal is the essence i think of where we're headed here. if a deal can be had at all. and what's the problem with that? the problem with that is what the administration said at the beginning that i totally embrace is that no deal is better than a bad deal. i don't think there's such a thing as a good bad deal. it's either a good deal or a bad deal and it's a bad deal if -- >> do you think a good deal is even possible at this point? i mean remember we're the deadline allegedly now is friday. >> well look i'm afraid that our red lines to the iranians seem to be green lights. the reality is that how do we start these negotiations? we started these negotiations saying iran cannot have the capacity for nuclear weapons. we started talking about that we needed to dismantle some of
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iran's illicit nuclear infrastructures. we started saying that there is no right to enrich, and what do we have so far from what i can see? we have the iranians having an implicit ability to go ahead and enrich. we have a nuclear infrastructure that despite the world powers sitting on the other side of the table, the iranians have been able to keep most of their infrastructure in place. and at 10 to 15 years they will have a clear pathway towards, if they choose to towards pursuing a nuclear bomb. that is not where the national interest of the united states is nor of our ally the state of israel. >> senator, just a quick two-word answer. if the congress has 60 days you wrote this law to review this deal if there is one, do you even think you would have the votes to pass a refusal of the law, yes or no? >> to pass a --
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>> meaning to -- to make sure that the deal doesn't live? >> well i think it depends upon what the deal was. we'll have to see. i'll reserve judgment even though i'm concerned about where we're headed about what the deal looks like. if it's a bad deal i think there's votes in the senate to say it's a bad deal. >> senator menendez thanks for your time. had to cut it short. that's it for me. "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now. all right. here we go. breaking news on cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. thanks so much for being with me. if you've been paying attention the last couple of hours. you know the deals, the three major technical malfunctions today bringing three huge u.s. operations really to their knees. you have the new york stock exchange suspending trading for more than two hours now after experiencing this internal technical issue. it all started at 11:32 this morning, and as we come to here live right now, activity on