tives here voting by a decisive margin to bring the confederate flag down in a marathon session that lasted well into the night. more than 12 hours after passionate and oftentimes contentious debate. >> it is a part of our future. it is part of our past. >> removing this flag from our front is not going to do anything to change this nation. >> reporter: members of the south carolina statehouse overwhelmingly approving a bill to remove the confederate flag from the capitol grounds. this just weeks after nine black church members including state senator and pastor clementa pinckney were gunned down by a white supremacist at a charleston church. a group of opposition are trying to blunt the momentum of the debate being backed by a group of bipartisan legislators. tempers flared into the night

and a passionate plea from jane horn to fellow members of her party. >> i cannot believe that we do not have the heart in this body to do something meaningful such as take a symbol out of hate off these grounds on friday! and if any of you vote to amend, you are insuring that this flag will fly beyond friday. and for the widow of senator pinckney and his two young daughters, that would be adding insult to injury. and i will not be a part of it! >> reporter: a black flag draped over pinckney's chair as a vote overwhelmingly for the flag's removal.

a move to take down the banner that was the site of the first shots of civil war and flown at the statehouse for half a century. the bill now headed to the desk of south carolina governor nikkihaley who praised governors. it is a new day in south carolina a day we can all be proud of. the flag will come down 24 hours after governor haley signs the bill. she has five days to do so. >> this is really about people and those who were lost in the massacre in that church. and one has risen to the top as a leader to symbolize in what was lost that was state senator pinckney. joining me now is armstrong williams, one of the senator's cousins who was one of the nine

victims in this massacre. let me ask you, you know that we are sorry for you and your family's loss and the other families affected by this situation. but now that you have this moment what do you think the senator would have said about all this change? >> well, obviously as a senator you push for body cameras after walter scott was just shot like a terrorist in charleston south carolina. and were it not for that south carolina would not have passed the law in a state for body cameras. and he was a strong voice for it. and there was no doubt senator pinckney and is reflected in his surviveing family his immediate family thought this was a very bold and important step toward healing. and another thing, chris, is that not every who sees the flag embraces it as racism and hate

and really sees it as a reflection of their heritage. so we have to be mindful of that. the pinckney family is very mindful going forward that because of their tragic loss jim's young daughter in the time of the tragedy, when they heard the bullets, want to be mindful. but they are not here to divide. they want to heal and bring everyone together. their loss and the other eight families that lost there are also people who feel a very strong emotion about that flag. but sometimes we just have to remind people as cnn did in its earlier package, is that the flag represented war against the united states a war that was fought. and when you win the -- you lose the war, the victors don't -- the losers don't get the right to continue in their relics and images and symbolism and sometimes it finds itself in a museum. and robert e. lee who was general at the time when asked by his confederate soldiers, how

did he want to be buried in his confederate uniform? and he said absolutely not. that would be treason. even he had an understanding of what the flag represented at that time. and as we move forward, just for the peace of the state, and it was not easy for some of the lawmakers to come to this conclusion and this decision. there are a lot of threats against them. their oritory on the floor represented the feelings of the con stitchchtch constituency. and to one of their very own colleagues clementa they have to show leadership to say it is time to move on from the flag and continue to talk about the issues to move south carolina forward. one of the good things chris, is the sanctions in that state that has crippled and harmed the state for so long won't be lifted as a result of this.

>> when you say sanctions, what do you mean armstrong? >> the naacp and other organizations have encouraged different organizations and groups and corporations not to locate in south carolina not to do business in south carolina. they have asked them not to have conventions in south carolina. sometimes that's lost upon us. and this has been going on for a very long time but now that a flag has pulled or is coming down businesses and industry and hospitality will return to that state. and it can only enhance and grow the economy of that state. >> and that will take us to what will really matter here. that flag may have represented something during the war and shortly thereafter but it was put back up during the civil rights movement as an overt act of defiance to that. and now that it is being brought down in the name of tolerance, the question becomes, what does it mean that the flag is now down? what does it mean going forward? one of the lawmakers said nothing will change in this country because that flag is brought down. do you agree with that? and if not, what is the hope of

what changes and what is a step toward change in taking it down? >> well, chris, much has changed. you may not always hear it in the news but there are family members who are asking themselves what do i pour into my children? do i pour hate? do i pour resentment because of the look of their skin different from mine? this is not just a conversation with white families, it is happening with families across the board. while we realize we are mature enough to understand that the flag did not leap off the pole and come down because of what happened with my cousin and eight other families yet it played a role because for some reason that young man saw it as something that is in his mind was something that symbolized hatred and that hatred had or happened to look like me. he went in that church and based his actions after he sat down there and they showed him love they showed him compass, they

embraced him. he himself, had a conscious moment to reflect. still there was something so deeply open grapeengrained in him that he felt he had to terrorize these people at all. if he's capable of doing this how many other young people feel with this kind of hate and resentment just because of what they look like? so people are taking a deeper reflection about what they're teaching their children not just what they are teaching them but the example they set. so i will whole heartedly disagree with that lawmaker. it does make a difference because people are having a conversation for me. for me i never thought the flag was a big deal or an advocate in days' past of taking the flag down but even i after the loss of my cousin and being in south carolina and realizing the conversations going on that it's time for change. we need to have a deeper conversation on race because race does matter. when someone can walk in a church in one of the most sacred moment of our lives and take people's lives just because they

are black, yes, we must have that conversation. and that conversation and the loss of their lives and the removal of the flag and the pole is a step within no question in my minds in the right direction. >> armstrong, every journey starts with a first step. this is a big one. i appreciate it despite the pain you and your family are going through. i appreciate your intelligence to this conversation. armstrong williams appreciate it very much. >> thank you. if you captured the change of heart and the passion for change the way lawmaker jenny horne did, you watched a little bit of her speech but wait until you hear what she actually said to her colleagues and why. because it may have well pushed this bill over the top. she joins us at the top of our next hour. very much looking forward to that conversation. well the chairman of the rnc asking donald trump to do something usual. reince priebus is asking trump to tone it down on immigration

comments. yet trump doubling down on his comments about immigrants speaking candidly with anderson cooper last night. >> you talked about building a great wall on the border or parts of the border about being tough. >> i would do something very strong. number one, i wouldn't think of anything until i built a wall unpenetrable. there will be nobody coming into this country illegally. tat's number one. number two, i would get the ones that are criminals, drug dealers and the people that are forced in by mexico. and you know exactly what i'm talking about, because mexico is smarter and sharper and more cunning. and frankly have much better negotiators than we have. and i will get the ones that are forced in by the country of mexico into our country, forced in those people would get out and they would get out fast. the rest i would be looking at very seriously. >> when you say looking at seriously, would there be a pathway to citizen ship -- you're talking 11 million at the

very least. >> it's too early for me to say. when you say citizenship, the most we are talking about is legal. but let me just say, before i even think about that we have to build a -- we have to build a wall a real wall not a wall that people walk through. >> you are talking about focusing on the criminals, deporting people. more people have been deported under obama than any other president previously. >> and more people are coming in under obama by far than more president ever. there's never been an entrance like this. and they are walking in. they are walking right past our patrols. the patrols are told not to do anything. >> but the border patrols have gone up significantly. >> i can say this more people are in this country right now illegally than ever before. i will build a better wall build it for cheaper and mexico will pay. >> how will mexico pay? >> because they are ripping us left and right. by the way, i love the mexican people. many mexican people work for me. many mexico people i do business with they purchase things from me like apartments et cetera. i have great relationships with

mexico and with the mexican people. i love their spirit. >> you said when mexico spends their people they are not sending their best they are sending people with lots of problems and bringing problems to us bringing drugs, crime and rapists. >> how did you start it off? you said when mexico sends it people. i'm talking about the government. >> what evidence do you have that the government sends -- >> everybody knows this. this man or this animal that shot the wonderful, beautiful woman in san francisco, this guy was pushed out by mexico. we bring him back and they push them out. mexico pushes back people across the border that are criminals, that are drug dealers. >> so if the article that you're basing this on this "fusion" article you cited. >> that's one of many articles that talks about 80%. but that's not it. look at homeland security reports. look at all the reports there. >> but there are reports, i have to look at a bunch of stories

that say there's no correlation between illegal immigration and crime. in fact immigrants committed crimes at a lower number. >> anderson you're not a baby. you're not a baby. the illegals coming in are causing tremendous problems. in terms of crime, in terms of murder in terms of rape in terms of -- >> northwestern university cited by "the washington post" says essentially no correlation between illegal immigration and violent crime. pew research center using figures from the university of massachusetts found crime rate among first-generation immigrants who came to this country from somewhere else significantly lower crime rate than the first generation. >> if someone is an immigrant, they shouldn't be here at all. they are not supposed to be in our country. i'm not just talking mexico. excuse me, they are coming from all over the world. i'm not just talking about mexico. >> we are talking central america as well. is there any correlation between --

>> and you're probably talking about the middle east and other places. the southern border is a disaster. i'm speaking this weekend in arizona. they say the crowd is going to be enormous. someone said i'm the most popular person in arizona. >> you say there's a correlation between crime and the illegals. >> i'm not saying it is number one. but even if the studies are correct, i'm not talking correlation. when you have illegal immigrants coming in if they commit crime they're not supposed to be here. >> you did indicate people coming across the border were raping 80% of the women based on this poll -- >> you are -- read the article. did you pull up the article? >> i did. i pulled up the article. >> the article was written by fusion. do you know who owns fusion? univision. do you know who i am suing? univision. let me tell you something, univision comes out like i'm some bad person. univision is being sued by me. the thing they own is fusion and they are talking about 80% rapes. i didn't make that up. >> in the article it says it's traffickers, gangs. >> sure it is.

>> and migrants. 80% from mexico. >> as i said before it is rape. and it's happening. and it's a shame. and it's horrible. >> so you stand by your comments. >> i stand by whatever i read from univision. univision did it. i didn't do it. >> well, he's consistent. donald trump is consistently himself. i think what people respond to and why he's high in the poll numbers is because he takes a stand, he takes it and doubles down as you can see. >> triples down. >> and that's refreshing because some politicians don't always do that. >> but the other part is how long can that last and is that presidential? >> we'll ask the man -- >> you can put a big word to how he defends it buzz doesn't make it better. it makes you wonder what are we doing? is he making news or noise? if you give more oxygen to ideas that do not hold up to fact and reason which anderson tried to

do he's our best at cnn, but you're fanning the flames of the worst that people have to offer. and now you're saying that may be a position of leadership? >> i see it differently. i think he started a national conversation one we should be having on immigration. whether you like it or not. >> i feel like the two of them will debate this but we'll have more on trump's interview throughout the morning. we'll have more opportunities to debate it here. and we'll have to analyze the latest conversations from the latino community in just a few more. >> see, we are still talking about it. another topic, wall street hoping to bounce back today following that technical glitch as they are calling it that stopped trading on the new york stock exchange for hours. that outage that added to jend jitters that already were there from the meltdown in the markets in greece. christine romans is here to break it down for us. give us a 100% answer on this on how to make a lot of money. >> i can tell you it was 100%

saved in the markets for a variety of reasons. the futures are up this morning. you are seeing a bounce around the world. the dow yesterday was down 261 points. it is really, really ugly. in the middle of that the new york stock exchange shut down for four hours. that happens from time to time, but not for four hours. the stock exchange says it is a configuration issue and will be open for trade in a few hours when trading begins. and that will be in exactly three hours, 12 minutes. they will open for trading. the stock exchange shutting down all that traffic that went to other exchanges. that didn't affect prices. that didn't affect prices. what affected prices was china and greece. i want to talk about china quickly. when you look at world markets, china had a really horrible day yesterday. look at the shanghai composite. this is all year. and now look at the past three months a crash down 30%. the chinese government is trying to step in there and stop a bubble from popping. and the more it goes in there and forces brokers to buy stocks and the more it goes in

there to make the new rules the more fear that is spreading in the chinese markets. the american investors don't have a lot of exposure directly to the chinese market. the chinese government keeps it closed as chinese investors, but it is worrisome. when you look at something like that a big market pop like that to affect commodities and sediment. we are closely watching what is happening in china. chinese stocks bouncing back because the chinese government went in to push the market higher. so there's a lot of concerns about that. we'll talk to you a little bit now about the rest of the markets. europe is up. we are at the end of the road here for greece folks. greece has got to have major reforms and it's got to have a deal or it will be out of the euro. so there are hopes now that in the next few hour this is will get resolved. if it doesn't, the dollar will rise the euro will fall and we'll talk about the ramifications next week for american investors. >> wow. so much going on. keep us posted over the next two weeks with what is happening for greece and china. and there's a shakeup to tell you about.

police commissioner anthony bass is out after his vent reaction to the riots happening in baltimore. suzanne is here with the latest. >> reporter: good morning, alyson. the mayor is not out of hot water yet as she was also named in this report by the police union just yesterday blaming them for a passive response to the civil unrest that turned into full scale rioting. here's the backstory here of the mayor's decision. three people were murdered at the university of maryland downtown campus tuesday night. there was also the city council calling publicly for bass's resignation. but privately are preparing a letter calling for the resignation to her. and the oratory to police they released this scathing report about the handling of the riots. but they were also going to be holding a no confidence vote next week and of recent revelation there were police districts closed to the public

in the evenings here. and that all made a decision and contributed to the decision of the mayor saying enough is enough. >> these events have taken place in an intense focus on our police leadership distracting many from what needs to be our main focus, the fight against crime. so we need a change. this was not an easy decision but it is one that is in the best interest of the people of baltimore. >> reporter: and we heard from the former commissioner anthony bass saying he was proud to serve the city. that it was his honor to serve the city. now it's time to move on. makayla? >> i'll take it, suzanne. thank you very much. we'll see what this means in the overall scheme of tranquility down there in baltimore. we'll take a break right now. question provocative, donald trump synonymous.

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well, that was presidential candidate jeb bush taking a stab at donald trump's remarks. the head of the rnc called donald trump last night telling him to tone it down. if you are with us political anchor at new york one news harold lewis, and senior political analyst and editor of the national journal, ron brownstein. great to have you both with us. let me give you the scoop from what our chief correspondent tells us about the phone call between reince priebus and donald trump. reince priebus said he spent four years trying to make end rows with the hispanic community.

how we address the hispanic community is very important to how we win hispanics so tone it down. do you think that made a difference to trump? >> i doubt it. there's something to keep in mind alyson there are people who are not latino offended by these remarks as well. they are swing voters and equally important to the republican party's chances in 2016. so he said what he had to say. it is absolutely going to roll off the back of donald trump. his entire candidacy at this point, the intention or attention he's getting is based on this issue. he feels passionately about it he's not the only one. there are a ton of people out there right with him. that's why he's ahead in the polls in north carolina and other places. and, you know priebus does not control the party at this point. the candidates do. >> so ron, what are we doing here? are we feeding a fire or are we

trying to provide an antiseptic to what outlines a view that is out there inherently wrong-minded about immigrants. what do you think about the media engagement of donald trump? are we helping or hurting the progress? >> i think the media is inflating the trump bubble. trump gets more attention than anybody else. and there's good reason for reince priebus to be concerned. mitt romney in 2012 won a higher share of the white vote than ronald reagan in 1980 and lost by 5 million votes. in 2016 virtually guarantees the minority share will be larger than in 2012. meaning the republicans have to improve their white vote over the first white democratic nominee ever or if you look at outreach since 2012 the republican house refused to bring it up. 26 republican states are suing to block president obama's

action executive action on immigration. and now for the first time, which you didn't have in 2012, you have rick santorum scott walker and mike huckabee talking be about reducing legal immigration. trump comes at the end of a long steps of republicans that is pushing back against what priebus called for after 2012 the outreach. and now they face a new challenge with his very kind of volatile language. >> we are also talking about sanctuary cities because, in part of the tragedy that happened in san francisco and presidential candidates are having to weigh in in terms of how they feel in places like san francisco. so jeb bush did just that coming out against them. listen to what he has to say. >> we are going to eliminate sanctuary cities and here's how we do it. we shouldn't provide law enforcement moneys for cities like san francisco until they change their policies to make sure that convicted felons that are illegal immigrants are picked up by i.c.e. rather than released into the community. >> how can you argue with that

logic? >> well, it's great on the stump. it's great as a talking point. the reality is 200-plus cities that are sanctuary cities are not a cause of the problem. they are a symptom of the problem. the localities are not going to adopt the cost the liability, they don't have legal authority to go out and enforce immigration policy. so it's great to sort of say, well i'm going to make sure san francisco runs federal immigration policy in that part of the state. it's not going to happen. the local authorities don't have the capability they don't have the legal authority, they don't have the personnel. if i.c.e. wants to take on 30,000 odd people in any given year and sort of create chas capacity to go pick them up at which point they have to initiate some kind of legal proceedings, you don't get to just grab people and hold them indefinitely because you think they are not supposed to be here. there's something called the justice system. >> there is no two sides to this. he's 100% right.

one of the things very deceptive in this ron, is calling them sanctuary cities. that has nothing to do with locals wanting to avoid getting rid of illegals. that they kept getting sued for discriminatory practices and for overholding people past any judicial process with a warrant. and they could sue, they would lose and they are doing it behest of i.c.e. what is happening with the dialogue in the campaign right now? i lost ron. that question was so pressing he couldn't handle it. >> the dialogue is going to go around and around in a merry go round. you'll hear people say what jeb bush said i'm going to penalize new york and houston. that's not going to happen. >> but it's inaccurate and divisive. because you say sanctuary city saying you want to be ease on illegals and that's not what is going on. >> in fact it's an easy way to do city bashing. these are mostly democratic cities they are talking about. so they will talk about san

francisco and new york. they are not noupg to talk about houston and the other cities like san diego. if that's what they want to do that's fine to get them through it. but at some point even as presidential candidates or whoever is sitting in the white house plus congress they are going to have to deal with this issue. there are tons and tons -- we are talking 30,000 in any given year released to the streets, not because of sanctuary cities wanting to but i.c.e. cannot deport them. >> i want to mention that the election is 400-some days away. the first debate is four weeks from tonight. the first republican debate we are closing in on election season quicker than you think. thank you so much. our thanks to ron brownstein. >> we are going to talk about it especially in san francisco and the current situation. what are we doing about immigration? that's why anderson is reviewing donald trump. you'll see more on his perspective that is representative of a mindset in

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history is being made in south carolina. lawmakers are voting to remove the confederate flag after an emotional debate lasting 13 hours. governor haley plans to sign it into law. they call for the cop fed rat flag to be taken down within 24 hours of her signing it. the move comes three weeks after the charleston church massacre. donald trump doubling down on his remarks about mexican immigrants. the gop candidate telling anderson cooper there are more illegal immigrants in this country than ever before and blaming president obama. trump said his solution is to build an inpenetrable wall at the border. reince priebus called donald

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donald trump is making a lot of noise or news depending on your perspective. anderson cooper tried to use fact and reason on his ideas. and we'll continue with our political analyst and former policy advisor to president clinton's special envoy for the americas. anna maria, can you make the argument for me that this is

helpful to the debate on immigration, hearing what donald trump has to say? >> of course not. it's dangerous, it is racist and basically what it's doing is putting this debate almost in two camps. one, we've got to build a border and, two, we've got to kick out all these -- he talked about 30 million. it's actually around 12 to 11 million undocumented persons who live in the united states. it's not useful. and i would say it's poisoning the well. it's dangerous. and i know a lot of democrats think this is useful because it does strengthen the democrats link to the latino community, but it's dangerous because it is poisoning this debate. you can't have a same debate when you have donald trump. >> but people are saying that he represents a real voice out there. and that's why his polls are so high. it's not about his celebrity or the fact that the media talks

about him -- >> high? >> what, ana marie? >> chris, high? he's second place in a field of what 12 13 20 potential republican candidates? >> 14. >> i mean come on. the give me a break. the problem is you have this man spinning out racist remarks about a large part of the u.s. population. and no one can stop him. i mean he called your colleague anderson cooper a baby at a point where he was trying to say, look donald your data is wrong. what you're saying is wrong. so part of the problem is that it's very difficult to stop these comments because when you confront him with the truth, that in these communities where you have a large number of undocumented people living the crime rate is lower than the rest of the city or the rest of

the other parts of these communities. >> but a lot of this is not just a fact analysis. it is not just a fact analysis. you did say it winds up becoming two camps. let's listen to what jeb bush said just last night about this. obviously another presidential candidate about how you can love and also want law. take a listen. >> you can love the mexican culture, you can love your mexican-american wife and also believe that you need to control the border. this is a bizarre kind of idea that somehow you can have an affection for people in a different country and not think the rule of law should apply. this is ludicrous. >> and do you agree with jeb bush's assessment of it being unfair to question those who want to secure the border? >> i absolutely believe you need to secure the border. i think there needs to be an interesting debate as to what you do with the border. and if you really set up the walls, is this going to stop the

people who trying to come into the united states. and there's an interesting debate about whether it won't stop that many people. but more importantly if you really want to stop people from coming to the united states you have to go after the people who employ them. if anything we have learned with this slowdown of the u.s. economy and this crisis of the u.s. economy, a very interesting thing happened. and a large number of undocumented workers left the united states because they didn't have a job. that's the reality. i mean some people have thought it's because the mexican economy has improved. no the truth is when there's no jobs available in the united states if automatically it will reduce the number of people trying to go into the united states. so if you want to stop this you know what you have to do? go after donald trump who has hired undocumented workers and basically also punish them if

you're going to go in the same way against the people who have come in and are trying to find a job in the united states. go after donald trump hiring undocumented workers. that is the solution. >> fair point. anderson made that point to him last night, ironically trump told anderson you're not the baby. he was the one babbling and gurgling when asked who works at his hotels. ana maria, thank you for your perspective. so a lot of presidential candidates are making an impression the last few days. our john berman is taking the pulse of the people. stick around for that, next. , i know... ♪ ♪ color is a beautiful thing, i know, oh yes i know... ♪ ♪color is the i ching ching for sure ding dang... ♪ ♪ color is a beautiful thing, i know, i know. ♪

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the 2016 presidential field is certainly filled with a variety of candidates from donald trump to hillary clinton, but what do voters have to say? we sent our john berman to get answers in the state where all political eyes are focused, iowa. and john is joining us now. >> sure we sit here and talk about how the election is 500 days away, but not in iowa.

in iowa it is just over six months away and these people are fully engaged and have opinions on the candidates. listen to this. you're a guy, like donald trump, for instance get up to say things on immigration that make it sound so easy. basically build a wall on the border he says he says that the people coming over among them are rapists and criminals and murderers. when you hear a candidate use words like that does it make you stand up and listen? or does it make you shake your head? >> it makes me shake my head. i mean and i think to myself this man has all this money and he is on this platform just spewing such ignorance. i believe that he is saying what a lot of people are too afraid to say. it's not an easy thing to say, that doesn't mean he's saying a fact and that the people are voting in what is true. >> i think his comments are reflecting a cultural

insensitivity that we have been trying to reverse. >> can anyone see themselves voting for donald trump? >> yes. >> why? >> he's a great businessman. i think he would be able to at least guide congress in a little bit better way to maybe perhaps pay down the $18 trillion debt we are incuring. >> barb, you met him. are you listening to what he says? so we are putting together a piece. when you heard them answer the questions, they were fascinating. there were three takeaways. you heard a piece of it there. i was talking to the republican voters. they were saying they don't love what he was saying but none of them would rule out voting for

donald trump. on the democratic side bernie sanders, all the democrats say they love what he's saying. it is interesting. we know why people are going to his rallies. and i was like are you going to vote for him? probably not, but they like he's in the race. i think they want a choice. they want a choice and they want someone to push hillary clinton. but when push comes to shove, it probably isn't enough to sway them. i thought that was very interesting. >> because they are so pro-hillary. are they talking biden? >> no talk of anyone getting in the race. and on hillary clinton, it is baked into the cake for most of the voters. the republicans who would never vote for her to begin with won't vote for her anyway. on the democratic side they don't like the e-mails and they don't make them happy but it won't change their vote at the end. >> did you get the sense they are committed and decided? or they are still measuring? we all recognize it's a long

ways out. >> no one issed decided because they don't have to be. the iowa voters are experienced professional voters. and they know they have until caucus night to make up their mind and won't sell their vote cheap. they hang on to the bitter end. most of them have a clear choice of who they would vote for if it were today, not all of them but most of them. >> when you talk about the debates coming up, who do they think should be in it? >> we didn't talk about that. but no one said there are too many candidates. people all said i like to hear the different voices and like to have the choice and will make the choice based on the people we like. >> i believe we fixed the grem lipgrem gremlins. let's go back to the tape. >> you guys have three dozen, four dozen people to choose from. barb what do you make of the field? >> you seem to take issue with that voter. >> barb was her vote. >> why didn't you put a

microphone on her, john? >> what did she say that bothered you so much that you silenced her? >> and this one as well. >> in my lifetime at 62 we have not had that diversity. >> if carly fiorina -- >> i think what is exciting about that is they will have conversations on race violence immigration that are important to people of color. and i'm interested in having the conversations. when i've been in the elections in my life where no one discussed race i think that is exciting. you're right, it's too early to tell but it will be exciting to hear. >> and adam you describe yourself as a socialist conservative. you have a lot of them running in the field right now. >> we do. my top pick right now is ted cruz. i'm still looking at mike huckabee. rick santorum is on my radar but bobby jindal is really exciting. >> so that leaves out right now

the top tier to an extent. scott walker jeb bush donald trump, marco rubio is up there, rand paul is up there. there are five guys who you say you're not considering. why not? >> they haven't necessarily backed up -- i mean rubio supported amnesty without building a wall or doing anything else. and jeb bush he's a complete and total moderate. >> you're a democrat but you're considering jeb bush. >> jeb bush has an appeal for latinos. he probably would be stupid for the republican party to not go after jeb bush because he's the only one that will be able to get the end pen upindependent votes. all the others are too far right to be in the middle. >> a lot of the minority here in iowa are latinos. it will be important to them that the republican candidate speak to their issues. cultural competency and also

representation. and in that way jeb bush is the strongest republican candidate. and although i have voted democratic all my life i would give him a vote of fantastic. >> so you wouldn't vote for him but pat him on the back. >> absolutely. he's saying thanks thanks a lot. >> that doesn't do much to thele who. thatta boy. it's interesting hearing from the voters because we have been debating this morning why it is that trump is as high as he is in the polls. why he's resonating. did you get a sense of why they are taking him seriously? >> they are listening because you can't help but listen. donald trump is on tv 24 hours a day. he's in the newspapers and the local stations. and what they say is they may not love the rhetoric but they appreciate what they call his accomplishments. he's an accomplished businessman and they like the private sector experience. and they will listen to him. that's all they are willing to tell you right now. and by the way, they say they see no evidence of a trump organization in iowa.

yet. and that matters. >> we are putting him on tv 24 hours a day. he doesn't need a ground operation. he's not spending his money because he's on the news so much. >> john thank you. >> well done my friend. you let the people speak. we are following news this morning so let's get to it. the confederate fight for the flag. >> remove this flag and do it today. police commissioner anthony bass out. >> we need a change. i will build a better wall and mexico will pay. jeb can't do it. i can do it easy. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn

camerota and michaela peralta. a state lawmaker signed off to remove the confederate flag from the capitol ground. now that bill is on the way to the governor's desk. >> the final vote came after 13 hours and three weeks after the church massacre fueled the efforts to bring down the flag. nick valencia is live in columbia where the flag probably won't be flying much longer. nick? >> reporter: good morning, chris. it is a day in history here in the state of south carolina. just hours ago lawmakers and the house of representatives here in the state voting decisively by a decisive margin to permanent remove the confederate flag from the statehouse with the final vote coming just after 1:00 a.m. >> ladies and gentlemen, if i can get your attention -- >> reporter: more than 12 hours after passionate and oftentimes

contentious debate -- >> it is a part of our future it is part of our past. >> and it is my sincere desire that this bill does not pass. >> reporter: members of the south carolina statehouse overwhelmingly approving a bill to remove the cop fed rat flag from the capitol grounds. this just weeks after nine black church members including state senator and pastor clementa pinckney were gowned down at a bible study in a charleston church. a group of lawmakers mounting opposition to the flag's removal proposing dozens of amendments in an attempt to block the momentum of debate. be backed by a group of bipartisan legislators, tempers spring into the night with a passion plea from a republican representative jenny horne to fellow members of her party. >> i cannot believe that we do not have the heart in this body