while we've deplored violence, we haven't done much about it. perhaps because this is confronting the violence forces us to confront the most serious defekts in our society. >> it is 10:00 p.m. in columbia, the capital of south carolina. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. in just ten hours, this con fed rat flag is going to come down. can you believe it? it has been flying here for more than 50 years. the governor of this state order that the flag be removed and the countdown has begun until it is down for good. we're going to be here live for the ceremony and after. i'm going to bring in now a colleague, you have been here covering this all this week. you were inside for this historic signing.

what was it like? what went on? >> you really got the sense that this was a historic moment. that something big was about to happen. and when the governor walked into that room, the energy was absolutely electrifying. everybody was clapping. everybody was cheering her on. and then they all want today hear what she had to say. she walked over to the seat, you know, to the chair, sat down, signed that bill into law and everybody was just taking that moment in. >> what did you notice? was everybody quiet? what set out to you? >> people were trying to stay quiet so they can listen and really hear. and then they were just taking it all in. and then when she was talking to the crowd, there were things that she talked about. she talked about the nine victims, the nine people who lost their lives. and she also talked about the significance of this moment, not just for the present, not just for healing now, but, also, for the future. and i want to have you listen to that.

>> this is the story of the history of nine individuals laid out this long chain of events that forever showed the state of south carolina what love and forgiveness looks like. and i will tell you that now this is about our children. when they go back and look in the history books, while we're still grieving and the grieving is going to last for a long time, when the emotions start to fade, then history of the actions that took place by everyone in south carolina to get us to this moment is one that we can all be proud of. >> you know, you can really get the sense, don, from being in that room that the people in that room were really proud about what had just happened. >> you know, 22 days since this massacre happened and then this debate about the bill. when i got here, i noticed that people had gathered here.

some people displaying the con fed rat flag. what have people been telling you? >> it's interesting to see the environment here. we have eve been seeing people gather here every day. not as large a group as tonight, but people have been very toll rantd. there's also been people standing next to them. >> we've seen altercations. >> we have. but it hasn't been the prevailing tone or mood here. there was a lot of tension for several hours. these lawmakers were really debating. the more aggravated people got, the more frustrated some lawmakers got. it's interesting. was there concern about what happens next? what happens when these people come back and have to work together again. it was interesting because this one lawmaker told me he's glad that they have a few months to kind of let things cool down before they have to go back in there again. >> i was speaking with some of his friends and he said that they had them take it away

because it's the end of the session. it's made even more real, if you can say that. you put the flak back up and take it all in. if you take it all in, that flag is going to be gone in less than 12 hours. there's going to be a ser mobileny moanny. what do you know about that ceremony. >> we know a little bit more than we can expect. we're going to participate in this ceremony. they're going to be walking down those steps that you see behind us. just about 15 minutes ahead. and then the flag is going to be removed by the head of that department. and then, what's going to happen is the burning of the flag right after that. right after that, the flag is going to go directly to the director of the relic room, which is that museum that's just a few blocks from here. and what -- in terms of where jack is going to be in the museum, that's still going to be yet to be worked out. but, for now, we know it's going to be that that museum. >> as you can see, we have a

countdown before how long this flag is going to come down. thank y thank you so much for your coverage. we're going to try to be here as long as we're needed here to cover the story. i want to turn now to the national review. also, former state representative and a friend of the reverend pinkney. and he joins me right here. >> as i said, take it in. i mean, there's the flag. and, in less than 12 hours, it's going to be gone. did you ever think this day would come? >> well, i'm only 30 years old and i can honestly say i never thought this day would come where the flag would come down. if you're 54, 55 years old, you have not had one single bret in this state without that flag flying. for me, i understand this isn't the end of anything. >> as you said, you're just 30 years. bum if you're 45, 50 years old,

to many people, this was an insult. it's sort of a celebration of their heritage. but it's been an insult -- 22 days. when you think of a span of 50 years, that it happened so quickly. is that surprising to you? >> wellheartedwell, hearts softe of this. if we're able to come together, black and white and democrat and republican and take the con fed r confederate flag down in south carolina, imagine what we can co? just imagine the things we can do in south carolina. >> i talked to my father about this who was shot 50 miles away from where the charleston massacre occurred. it was a sigh. this is a civil rights achievement that we had and now our state can help. >> there's someone applauding. why are you applauding?

>> i'm a teacher. >> this is better than any election win. i mean, the horns are going off tonight because, you know, honk the horn if you want it to come down. this is the best feeling i've had. i've won elections before, but nothing has felt this euphoric or joyous. i know how many lives are lost and how many people have given their soul to this. >> so this is not a happy moment for you. why are you against taking this flag down? >> i'm not going to say that i'm -- this was a decision for the people of south carolina to make, regarding that flag. my position has been very clear on this from the beginning. and that is if someone is flying that flag, elspecially on official grounds as a symbol of white supremecy and racism, than that flag should come down. my concern is we should not be going to monmonuments, memorial

battle field sites, cemeteries and starting to cleanse these historically significant sights of the presence of the flag or any other symbol that is offensive merely because it's offensive. we have to learn about our history. in all of its fullness, including the things that are hurtful. >> but flying a flag, what difference does it make that it's in a relic room? if this flag is insulting to some people, every time they walk into the capitol or pass the capitol or pass the state house, that they're insulted by it. so i don't understand what's wrong with moving it. it's still going to be displayed. it's still going to be part of history. you can still teach the history. >> the people of south carolina have made a bipartisan decision regarding that flag.

the question now is what happens next. we now have a question of placing small confederate flags where soldiers are buried. we're talking about censoring history at that point and trying to -- we can't just do that on the basis that some people are offended. history can be hurtle. and we need to be able to communicate it in its fullness. >> it's not -- we're not cleansing history. we're not erasing history. but what we are simply saying is that this state house behind me doesn't belong to one individual. it doesn't belong to one group of people. >> what about specifically where he talks about graves of confederate soldiers we spoke about this amongst our group tonight with my producers. and we talked about, what if someone -- i saw people flying the flag on their trucks today and walking around. what if someone carried a swastika flag around? how would someone feel about that? >> i have the ability to judge

you. and i have the about to have my opinion about what you're doing. as asinine or as ignorant as it may be. if someone wants to fly the confederate flag on their own vehicle, their truck, painted on top of their car, that's their prerogative. but that's not what we're talking about here. we're talking about the house of the people that represents us all. >> we're not -- he just doesn't want history to be whitewashed. >> that's a red herring. nobody is white washing history. what we are doing is saying everybody's heritage, and not only that, but my former colleagues e actually showed empathy last night. that's an amazing thing. it's a new day in zek 1:00, it really is.

>> i cannot believe that we do not have the heart in this body to do something meaningful, such as take a symbol of hate off these grounds on friday. you are ensuring that this flag will fly beyond friday. and for the widow of senator pinkney and his two young daughters, that would be adding insult to injury. and i will not be a part of it. >> and i misspoke, state representative jenny horn. what do you make of that, david? she's speaking from the heart. she says this offends the people i love, my friends. >> i mean, there's no question. that's a powerful statement that she's made.

i believe the vote was 94 to 20, something like that. so that's a bipartisan vote. the debate is moving on from that flag. that flag was going to come down. and that became very, very clear very soon after that horrible, evil shooting. that flag was going to come down. the debate is not ending with that flag. there's still a con ffederate monument there. there are battlefields which are open air museums. these vast open air museums of the war where flags have come down. why? because we're saying they're innately, inherently offensive. they're also a part of our hisz ri. there are reasons why you display the flags and the artifacts of history. so we've moved well beyond that. and the people of south carolina have made their decision. they've made it in a way that was peaceful with civil debate. i applaud them for that. but this debate is far from over. and we haven't established a

principle upon which we're going to make those decisions. >> standby, gentlemen. i want everyone to take a look at that confederate flag that is flying right behind me. it is going to come down. soon, you see the countdown clock right there on your screen. first, i want you to listen to what president obama said in his eulogy. >> removing the flag from this state's capitol would not be an act of political correctness. it would not be an insult to the va lor of confederate soldiers. it would simply be an acknowledgment that the cause for which they thought fought, the cause of slavery was wrong. [ cheers and applause ]

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we're back now live in columbia, south carolina. there it is, the confederate flag still flying above the state house or near the state house. on the state house grounds here. 11:41 minutes before that flag comes down for good. history is being made here. david, i want to ask you this. if this is your concern, because new orleans mayor wants to remove some confederate monoyumts from the city, including statues of robert e. lee and jefferson davis. this is what you're worried about happening. you're worried that this will spread and this is what you call the whitewashing in your estimation of history?

>> that's exactly what i'm worried about. these monuments, themselves, are important historically. they are part of a story of how the south dealt with the aftermath of the civil war. those monuments themselves have historical value, much less telling people about these incredibly significant historic individuals who lived and fought and died on that soil. just five miles from my house, there's a monument for about 200 soldiers left from our community and only about 12 came home. so these are telling the story about loss and about fight. and to remove that, we've removing a part of our history. we're making ourselves more ignorant. and i'm not sure to what end, ultimately. >> do you agree with that? >> i don't agree with the theory that this is some type of cultural genocide. that we're whitewashing or erasing. what i do believe is that south carolina is ready to move

forward to the 21st century. this flag, for example, and this may be different than most. but this flag was put in place in 1961. so this, for me, is about hate. this, for me, is about the lack of tolerance for various cull e cultures. >> new orleans, again, the mayor is proposing that robert e. lee high school, the rebels. >> each one of these, i was speaking with a friend earlier today who works with the mayor of san antonio. but each one need to be dealt with on an individual basis. for me, don, what i want to do is i want to register a hundred thousand new south carolinans. i want to talk about the corridor of shame that we have here in south carolina. so while we're talking about cemeteries and statues, i want to make a real change. >> here's what former president bill clinton had to say today

about the decision to take down the flag. >> i have to say this. i almost cried when i saw that picture of the south carolina legislature yesterday with republicans and the democrats and the african americans and the white people embracing each other and making that vote and seeing the decisive speech made by a woman who was a direct descendent of jefferson davis. don't tell me that we can be the get together across the lines that divide. we just have to keep working at it. >> so to his point, david, even the discussion, do you think that even the discussion about some of these symbols and monuments -- and i'm not add voe kating that they should come down one way or the other. but is there room for at least discussing it? >> you know, in the united states of america, there's room for discussing just about everything.

and, in fact, you know, sometimes discussions and debates exactly like this can be very healthy things. you know, one thing that's for certain is we have more discussion and debate that i've seen about the civil war, its meaning and its legacy. and the last four weeks, three weeks, than i've seen in the last three years. so those kind of discussions can be incredibly healthy and worth having like the discussion that we're having right now. and my part of that discussion is to urge cause of action and what we do with our open-air monoyumts. those are important teaching tools. in all that they mean. in all the bad that they mean and the things that are better. >> i understand what you're saying. i had a similar discussion about this on cnn where someone asked me should the thomas jefferson

memorial come down? there may be a day that we want to discuss that, but i wasn't advocating that. i think people see this the way they want to see it. if there's room to talk about it, doesn't mean you should do it. mid concern is is there going to be some sort of backlash? maybe even racial backlash because of what's going on now. >> i think that evil, racist people will seize on almost anything. they don't need an excuse. we can't conduct our debates on the basis of what a very few evil people do. >> what you saw this week is what washington, d.c. and the rest of the world and the country needs to follow. you saw black, white, democratic and republican come together. for a single cause of good. not only just talking about this

flag, but on other issues. >> that's the core of who i am and what this show is about. you can have a discussion even if you disagree with someone. >> taidavid, i appreciate your time. we'll be here tomorrow again. there it is. there's the flag standing, but it won't be long. some 11 hours, 35 minutes, this flag is going to come down from the state capitol that's been here flying si ining since 1961. coming up, the man who made an emotional call. an emotional call at the funeral for the confederate flag to come down. how he feels now that his prayers are being answered. plus, you've got to talk about donald trump. has he lost the apprentice vote? we'll talk about that. we'll talk about that. blank

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11:31. that's when that flag will come down. we're live from south carolina now, columbia, south carolina. it's hard to ignore what happened at the church. the reverend malloy was at the funeral.

i want you to listen to what he's going to have to say and then we're going to talk to him. >> declare all the change that you wanted to see, and all the change that you wanted to do. because of you, we will see the confederate flag come down here in the state of south carolina. you're the one that did it. it's coming down. joe malloy is here with me. thank you, jentle men, for joining me. >> did you ever see this day would come? >> i thought after the eulogy, it very well would happen then. i did not know it would happen in my lifetime! what do you think clinton would say about this? >> clinton is a person who would sort of minimize himself and

inflate everybody else. he'd be asking then what? what is next? >> you said shefsz always in your business. she's a business busy body. >> she would hope that it's not just a moment. that it's the beginning of her movement. that there's a lot more work to be done in terms of public policies to be advanced and across the nation. so there are a number of other issues that have to be passed by jeb e jeb general assembly south. >> i'm so sorry. by the way, how is everyone doing? >> everyone is taking one day at a time.

we want to up left our sister's memory and her legacy. and we want to make sure that it's not just a name on a piece of paper. >> does this help? >> i would want my sister alive today. i understand her sacrifice and the sack ra fiesz of eight others and waiting for the movement! >> speak to that. >> so much work to be done. we think that the sacrifice of these families, in all of these individuals, we're hoping that it will lead to reconciliation that we will have those discussions that are necessary. and we think that this flag

being taken down is just one step. it is a symbol that is being repooufed. it's like a symptom of the disease. we want to make sure we can continue to have these doors that is open. so that we can continue to have these discussions. we can't shut these doors once the cameras are gone, once the flag is down so that we can start working on these issues of december party and health care, expension on medicate e k. >> i spoke to you earlier. and i said i want to talk to you about the living legacy of clemente sppinkey. he was a heck of a man. >> i think that right now, we know that senator pinkney was

for the agents. you would see how eloquent that he was and what he actually ended up saturday e standing for. now, the nation will end up knowing and has been said over and over again, this young man was the cloegsest word that i kwould find e find to describe him, proe prong day. and what we're seeing in south carolina is that he was the shepherd. god chose the right person. >> and he stood for causes. >> i have to tell you, we got into a taxi the other day and the driver was friend, his wife is a co-worker of your sisters.

your sister was the first person to call. >> again, my family didn't pay a whole lot of attention to the confederate flag when it was up. >> what about your sister's legacy? >> i think the most pres tee jousz college for cynthia graham. the library has signed over 1500 bookings sending it to the library in charleston. and she's still living. my goal is to make sure that her legacy lives on, too. >> do you think by removing this is e as a whitewash of history? >> i don't know that it's a wliet washing of history. i think that history is going to be there for the ages.

with e what we need to get rid of is a symbol that is devicive. when someone uses a symbol and it causes pain here on our state, then it's time to go. >> when we come right back, you would think that you could count on his apprentice -- he could account on his "apprentice" con tes tents. but after his announcements, will they even vote on him? i'm going to ask two former contestants. that's next. that's next. this legal copy is just instructions on how to win a free trip! instructions actually written in this legal copy. use your dvr to read them. this is the pre-recorded voice of captain obvious. i am not a ventriloquist. look at us...ert a nation of checkers. missing this moment... to check all of the other moments. really, mom? just one look. they'll never notice.

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we're back now live in columbia. now i want to turn to donald trump who made dozens of people famous as contestants on "the apprentice." but how do they feel about his comments on immigrants? good evening to both of you. thanks for joining us. catrina, you, first. are you concerned donald trump being donald trump will actually hurt him and his bottom line in the long run. >> well, you know, i've known

donald trump for over a decade now. and the one thing that i admire about the man is he speaks truth and he spantands behind his tru. regardless of whether or not you agree with the delivery of the message. i think we boast about having freedom of speech yet most americans are afraid to use i. that's because of our innate ablt or i should say insecurity within most human beings. not to mention as a small business owner, i've spoken to so many small business owners who are afraid to voice their opinion for fear that their customers will leave them and they'll basically not have the ability to provide for their family. their livelihood will be gone. so, really, do we live in a country where we're allowed to speak truth? that's what donald is bringing to life right now. >> are you condoning what he's saying? >> what i'm saying is that th e

there's truth behind what he's saying. maybe the the delivery is not what we want to hear, but there's truth in it. i'm a cuban american and i am so proud that my parents were immigrants, but they came here the right way. they followed the policy and things were done right. all he's saying is it can't be a free-for-all. and there has to be a procedure. so everybody is up in arms because they're basically changing his words and just focusing on a few words that he said. but let's not forget about the overall messaging here. >> i want randall to be able to get in here because we don't have a ltd. of time: randall, you disagree with that? >> i completely disagree with all due respected to k ecatrina. i think the real issue here is an issue around privilege. first of all, i don't think he

realized what he was saying when he said it. he said it as he was kicking off his presidential campaign. having been called out on saying it, the man is doubling down and not retreating and not apologizing. there is no truth in the idea of immigrants being rapists and criminals. >> but randall, he's not saying all mexicans. >> no, he's not saying all, but he is stereotyping. and he's feeding into a stereotype. >> you have to have more responsible language. >> there's no truth to what he's saying at all in you're estimation? >> there's no truth to the

stereotype of mexicans being rapists, no. i think it's a matter of insensitivity and lack of awareness of what he's saying as a result of privilege. >> companies are cutting ties. this is what i'm saying. companies are cutting ties because he's not being plitically correct. should he have mentioned the part about the mexicans and labeling them? he is completely being politically incorrect. and i'm not saying what he said about mexicans being rapists is right. absolutely not. that's a generalization. but what i'm saying is how quick are these companies to basically cut ties with him because he's voicing his opinion on the general issue.

>> thousands of people are cutting up their macys credit card right now. i think they're paying a very big price. >> so i apoll gees e jazz because there's a delay. that was in the interview. go ahead and respond to that. >> so -- and to his point, everybody is very quick when somebody is not -- doesn't have the popular opinion to basically cut ties with them. so, really, my question is do we have freedom of speech in this country or not. because all of these countries are basically cutting ties with him because it's not popular opinion. that's what's so fearful. >> but the point is not -- >> let randall get in here. >> the point is not whether donald is arctic lating a popular opinion. it's whether he's articulating an offensive position, an insensitive position, an

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we are live now in columbia, south carolina. tonight, on the eve of the day the confederate flag will come down. there it is. if you're watching this show, this may be one of the last times you see it. the confederate flag still standing at the state house, right here in columbia, south carolina.

let's continue our conversation about donald trump whose spin on the phone call was that it was congratulatory in tone. thank you both for joining me tonight here. lots to talk about. donald trump, really, he's pushing back on the reports that priebus, asking him to tone down his remarks, let's listen to it. >> it was a very nice call. it was really more of a con kbr gratulatory call. he talked about how well we're doing and how he's literally not seen anything like this. it was a very nice call. it lasted for probably 10 minutes, maybe a couple of minutes more than that.

and that was the end of the call. >> i mean, mark, who would ask donald trump to tone it down? i really don't think it's in his nature. >> i don't think it's in his nature, but i think it's in the republican party's swres to tone it down. none of us have ever seen anything like donald trump on the campaign trail. every time he opens his mout, the rest of the candidates have to talk about him instead of issues that they care about. they have to say things like, no, we don't think mexicans are rapists. >> that's not exactly what he said. he said when mexico sends people. >> but, the fact that you're on

television arguing about it, he's not ablgctually saying tha all mexicans are rapists and criminals. >> i agree with you completely. i think he should have used different verbiage. donald trump, i hope you listened and is going to tone it down. but i can appreciate the fact that donald truch had e has brought to light what is a very important issue. we saw a young, 32-year-old girl who ran across the border five different times. this is a problem. >> it's partly a verbal, a he a rhetorical issue. but i agree with you. the obama administration and

everyone else has not done an adequate job of that. but what trump is doing is really watering down the discourse and taking it down to a level that we don't want to be at. >> i'm wondering if he can get the la teed know vote. >> i will get more latinos than anybody else. i have thousands of latinos that work for me right now. and i'll tell you what i'm going to get. at the appropriate time, rater on, probably after the primary situation, assuming i win, which i hope i do. i'm in it to win it. we'll see what happens. i'm going to have thousands of people that work for me standing up saying we love trump. and what i'm going to o do is i'm going to be able to create jobs. >> this is the classic delusion of rich white men. what does he think they say when he leaves the room? his plan for getting the mexican vote is i'm going to call them rapists. but i'm going to get my butler

stand up and say -- >> mark, i do have to say my colleague interviewed on the job site. i'm just here. i want a job. i want to make some money. sq . >> i think it abshutly could. >> however, you can't appear to malign an ethnicity. >> i think it's borderline absurd to think donald trump will get the latino vote. i mean, just -- i'm pacing it on polling numbers. the only evidence we have second-degree dornld trump's claim that the thousands who work for him are going to stand up and vote for him.

>> the polls are meaning legislation right now. you have to giver them time to ar tick late on a debate state. i do think that's a powerful point. >> well, two things. one, if polls are meaningless to her point,than, no. we don't even know if trump is realitily numt per two. his position could be a proxy fr other things. but i want to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he is nuchl beryl two right now. i think there's a particular sector of the polls and of the republican base that he appeals

to. >> the one thing that does appeal to people is he has a very populous tone. they're tired of the rehearsed lines that you get from hillary clinton and these other guys. donald trump is real in many ways. if you can push aside the statements, he'll be just fine. >> thank you. i appreciate it. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ so you're a small business expert from at&t?

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