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removing ceremony. the flag will be removed by the director of south carolina's director of public safety then taken to a museum a few blocks from here. >> so many fought for that saying that's where it belongs, in a museum. meanwhile, the debate erupting on the floor of the house. democrats beating back an effort by republican leaders to allow symbols at cemeteries. we have all the details on that. >> good morning, michaela. a lot of anger and emotion on capitol hill yesterday. it was not a good moment for republicans on the hill. they are trying to broaden their appeal to minorities yet a split screen dual of republicans trying to lead the effort to get rid of the flag. republicans forced to pull a bill that would have included an amendment allowing it to be
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displayed. it was a contentious moment on the hill. what you are playing now is what happened a couple hours later when democrats protested loudly when republicans shelved a resolution that would have removed the confederate image from the capitol. that speaks to the mississippi flag which includes the confederate flag in the upper corner. there was a lot of emotion on the house floor about this issue yesterday. let's play what georgia congressman john lewis had to say about this. >> there's no way the federal government should ever display this flag on any federal site or sell it on federal property. it is a symbol of separation. it is a symbol of hate. it is a past. we must defeat every attempt to return this flag to federal
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property. sack lot of raw emotion and passion on the house floor. john lewis next to the trooper who is beat the protesters including him in alabama 50 years ago. john boehner wants the adults to have a conversation. democrats are saying what conversation has to be had. these symbols -- >> how far do you go right? you have seven states i think, that had some type of symbolism in their flag. congressman, you made a very passionate speech on the house floor thursday to allow confederate flags to remain at cemeteries and national parks. let's play this for the audience. >> had this flag prevailed in
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war 150 years ago. i would not be standing here today as a member of the united states congress. i would be here as a slave. >> what motivated that for you other than the pure light of reason? well chris, we have come a long way in america since the end of slavery, 150 years ago, but we have a long way to go. and the death of those nine god fearing, church going african-american folks in charleston south carolina by somebody who was trying to start a race war and who was inspired in part by the confederate battle flag should make clear it's time to banish this racist hate. i was shocked and appalled by the fact that on the very same day that south carolina
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republicans and democrats, blacks whites people of all races were doing the right thing in setting the stage for the confederate battle flag to come down house republicans were attempting to lift it up and permit it to be displayed on national park service land. >> speaker boner says it's an attempt to get a directive from the national park service. do you buy that? >> not at all. it's inaccurate. there could be no legitimate debate about what was occurring. three amendments two offered by representative jared huffman from california earlier this week. one offered by myself. collectively to prohibit the use of federal funds, in connection to the purchase sale display on national parkland. there was then an e fort less than 24 hours later to roll back
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those amendments. this was done chris, by house republicans under cover of darkness in the dead of night. they tried to sneak it in. democrats, led by betty mccull um were able to catch this stop it call for a vote and that led to what took place on the house floor. thankfully we were successful in leading the effort to stop it and the republicans forced to retreat. >> one last thing on this. how far do you go with removal of this symbol? do you think the state flag should change? do you think the names of confederate generals change? how far do you extend this principal? >> each state has to make their own decision. i am of the view that any state that incorporates the battle flag within their flag needs to take a step to reverse the history that that battle flag
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reflects and move forward with an appropriate display. those are state decisions. however, in terms of what we were attempting to accomplish yesterday, the mississippi state flag directly incorporates the confederate battle flag within it. it's not appropriate at this juncture for that flag to be displayed on the grounds of the united states congress. that flag stands for the defense of the institution of slavery, which is one of the worst crimes perpetrated against humanity in the history of the world and no one can dispute that. we have to be able to move on. i'm hopeful house republicans will do the right thing to get back to doing the business of the american people related to jobs and retirement security, college affordability. that's true. let's pivot to another headline. you heard director of the fbi saying hey, they have a new inkripgs and modes we can't
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track. we need more tools and more money. one thing is going to require something more difficult, a change in policy about privacy. we came through it with surveillance. now, they are going to need isps to give them windows into activity to catch bad guys. that's a different place in terms of where you wound up in terms of privacy. is it time to rethink? >> we should always rethink and refresh the effort that law enforcement has all the tools necessary. there has to continue to be a balance between national security protection on one hand an support for principles around privacy and the civil liberties with the american people. congress' job, those of us on the judiciary committee will make sure the balance is appropriate. i'm open to hearing what the fbi
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director has to say about law enforcement tools, but we are guardians of the american people and that's important as well. >> you know what happens, you have the god forbid provision. something happens, it could have been stopped. then you have a different analysis. that's why it's a difficult job. we are going to see where the debate goes look forward to having you back continue the conversations on both runs. thank you. nuclear talks with iran extending past a third deadline. all parties remaining in vienna for the weekend. congress will have 60 days to review a deal instead of 30. no matter how long talks go one person who doesn't think they are a good idea donald trump with part two. trump had harsh words about the talks with tehran. >> we are making a terrible deal. we have the wrong people negotiating for us. the persians are great
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negotiators. they are laughing at the deal we are making. we should double up and triple up the sanctions and have them come to us. they are making an amazing deal. you know we are paying them hundreds of millions of dollars on a monthy basis. i said why can't that money be held back. they said it has nothing to do with the negotiation. really? why aren't we getting four people back that are being held in the bors place in the world. they say we don't want to discuss that. anderson this negotiation should have taken a week. that's because i'm being generous. shouldn't have taken a day but it shouldn't have taken a week. it's taking forever. now another delay and another delay. if you think iran isn't doing lots of nuclear work behind our backs as we negotiate, you are foolish. i watch you too often to know you are not foolish.
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>> former attorney general, eric holder said -- >> i think he's a total traitor. i would deal with him harshly. i would get along with putin. i have dealt with russia. i think i would get along with him fine. he would never keep somebody like snowden in russia. he hates obama. he doesn't respect obama. obama doesn't like him, either. he nooz respect for obama and has a hatred for him. snowden is living the life. if i'm president, putin says you got him. nobody would be tougher on congress than donald trump. >> nobody. the situation has to be dealt firmly and strongly. when you have people being beheaded i would love not to be over there. that's not our fight. it's other people's fight. it's revolutions, whatever toupt
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call it. i would do smings that would be so o tough, i don't know if they would be around to come to the table. >> what sort of things? >> take away the wealth and the oil. what you should be doing is taking away the oil. >> what does that mean? >> here is what i hate about this question. if i win -- if i win, i didn't want to answer this question and i thought maybe i could go without answering it. if you look at the great general george patton or any great general, they didn't talk about what they did. if you remember, when i said i have a plan but i don't want to talk about it. the problem is everyone said he doesn't have a plan. i had to do it. i hate talking about it. if i win, i would attack those oil sites controlled and owned by isis. they are taking tremendous money out. they are renovating a hotel in iraq. can you believe it. >> wouldn't you be destroying
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the wealth of iraq? >> there is no iraq. their leadership is corruption. there are no iraqis. they are broken up into so many factions. >> you don't think bombing iraqi oil is going to danger huge numbers of people? >> i would bomb the hell out of the oil fields. don't send many troops you won't need them. i bomb them. then get exxon. they would rebuild them so fast your head would spin. ever see how fast they put up rigs? exxon mobile the top five companies would be in there and finished so fast. >> would you need u.s. troops? >> yeah you put a ring around them. you have taken all the health away. >> it's interesting. past the bluster and superlatives he says he doesn't
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want to be asked those questions or tested on things. that's, i think, what voters want to know wharks is your plan. how would you handle these things. i want to know if you win my vote that way. >> look this is a tricky situation because he is fueling interest in the campaign. >> sure. >> we want you to be interested in the campaign. >> we want you engaged, of course. >> but the idea he is resinating with people because he makes sense, i think is a dangerous one on several levels. >> one, you hope that's not true. he is saying things out of fact and reality of what works in the world. it's dangerous to say this sounds great. bomb the oil fields. just because the guy is provocative doesn't mean he should be taken seriously. it's up to you. >> another story we have been following for you is bill cosby. it appeared he might slip any criminal charges connected to
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surmountable. all but one says he did there before the ten-year statute. good morning, sir, thank you for joining us on "new day" to talk about your client. it's amazing to think there's only one of all these alleged cases against bill cosby within the statute of limitations. she waited six years to come forward. why? what was it that it was catalyst to make her speak up. >> thank you and good morning, michaela. sz as it happens with a number of women who are sexual aabused, the thought is i can't believe that just happened and no one is going to believe me if i say anything. there's a certain amount of fear involved in any woman that's abused. as we have seen through the 45 women that have come forward, understand we have a list of roughly 45 women that have come forward and said that bill cosby
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has done this to them. all of them waited years because none of them individually believed it would be believed by them. so they eventually came forward. there is strength in numbers. much like them my client when she started hearing about the women abused by mr. cosby, she felt empowered to come forward and tell her story. >> she is younger. a woman is at a different time in her life. so many emboldened to come forward later in life. she is 25 now, if i understand correctly. you have been in touch with the state's attorney in california. you believe the case the lapd has, the open investigation is your case. they cannot comment. all they will say is that they have one open investigation related to cosby. because it is of sexual assault nature they can't divulge the details. i know you can't comment on an
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expectation, but do you know if and when charges will be filed? >> i walked my client through the lapd police department. they took the allegations seriously. they sat with us two and a half hours where my client explained to them what occurred to her in detail. that investigation, as we know is still open. they have never told my client or myself it's been closed at any point. in fact a few weeks ago, i was in contact with the l.a. police department because they were requesting additional information. they asked us both not to discuss the details of what we have told them. >> we should read the response from the cosby camp. marty singer says the party took place in 2008. mr. cosby was in new york that date. we will provide the evidence that establishes mr. cosby's whereabouts on august and the
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preceding days. i understand she never said the day. she didn't specify august 9th did she? >> no. it's fancy lawyering by mr. singer. my client never said a specific date she was there. she said she was there for a private party where mr. cosby was in attendance. they have taken that and extrapolated. there was one party, a public party, the midsummer night's dream party held at the playboy mansion every year. i think everyone assumed that. that was not the case. it was a general, private party she attended. and, you know, from my perspective as an attorney it's nice to find out he has these records dating back to 2008. now, in litigation whether criminal or civil, i would like them to produce the records. to date they have produced nothing. >> you want the 2005 deposition the full deposition only
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excerpts have been released. do you think it will contain what the lapd needs for their investigation? >> well it's hard to tell at this point because it was sealed. you are correct. obviously, we want the full disclosure of that 2005 deposition. what it shows, michaela is what mr. cosby, his representative and handlers are saying to the public and the media is opposite to what he says when put under oath. i want to get him in a sworn deposition and i want to compare it to what he said no 2005. >> thank you very much. within the statute of limitations in california. we will be watching this. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> tweet us if you have comments on this newdaycnn or
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history is about to be made in south carolina. that history, the confederate flag being removed this morning from the grounds of the state capitol in columbia. the ceremony is said to begin in about two hours. governor nikki haley says it will be simple and dignifyied. the families of the nine people gunned down at the church in charleston are expected to attend. the trial after accused colorado movie theater shooter james holmes. the accused is not going to take the stand. he said i choose not to testify about the charges he killed 12 and wounded 70 others. closing arguments are likely to
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begin on tuesday. prosecutors are asking for the death penalty. >> pope francis coming out about modern capitalism and the poor. he slammed the pursuit of money and called world leaders cowards for not defending the earth from exploitation. also the vatican says the church will not display the gift from bolivia's president a crucifix. >> is russia a greater threat to the u.s. than isis? president obama's nominee to be the next chairman joint of chief thinks so. moscow's nuclear arsenal, actions in ukraine and the threat to nations a alarming and pose the biggest challenge for the u.s. >> there is much political things going on. let's get to "inside politics" on "new day" with john king. happy friday. you have a lot on your plate. >> happy friday to you. we start with follow the money.
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let's go "inside politic" this morning. nia maleeka henderson. look at jeb bush's first big fund raising take. his campaign smaller donations raised $11.4 million from the launch to the end of june is a lot of money in a few weeks. look at the superpac numbers. $103 million. that is an arsenal for a guy who, for all the troubles we talked about in the spring is stabilized in the polls. he's not in a great position but a good position. look at his position in the polls and if he's not the front-runner the most formidable. >> they have a good job of tempering. we thought it was going to be a big number and it is. how he raised it is interesting and raising eyebrows. he prolonged the period before he declared allowing him to go
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around and raise this enormous amount of money for the superpac. so that is going to be discussed going forward. >> you look at the other republican, ted cruz and marco rubio, half of what jeb bush raced. a good take for them. normally it's a good number. hillary clinton's number $45 million for her campaign. we are waiting for the final numbers from the superpac. one thing is does the money become an issue. bernie sanders raised an okay amount of money himself, $15 million. go back ten years, that's a good number. in the post citizens united world, ah. when it comes to jeb bush there's a problem here. >> bush people like sheldon, addison and the koch brothers. their efforts are undermining the foundations of american democracy, which means to me
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that we must overturn this disastrous citizens united. [ applause ] >> i don't remember right after watergate but in recent years, people complain about the money. does the debate about the money influence elections or come down to taxes and spending? what do you do about isis? >> you saw democrats try to make the argument in 2014 about the cokekoch brothers and harry reid talking about the influence of the koch brothers. you saw obama speak out against citizens united but give in to this new reality where all the money, where superpacs are dominant. that's the interesting thing. you have seen in past elections with bush outsourced to the superpacs and in 2012 superpacs had the best ads. it will be interesting to see how that plays out. the thought is all this money would scare people away. it ain't happening.
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you are going to get scott walker as well. >> 17 counting governor gilmore. i don't forget anybody. even if you are getting 1% it is 17 candidate field. that 1% is coming from somebody. i don't discount anybody in the republican race. let's move on to the economic substance. jeb bush speaking to the newspaper in new hampshire. he wants economic growth. elect jeb bush and we will have growth in the 4% rate. they asked, how do you get there, governor? >> we have to be more productive. work force participation has to rise from the all-time modern lows. it means that people need to work longer hours and through productivity gain more income for their families. i's the only way to get out of the rut we are in. >> people need to work longer hours. at the national democratic committee, that was the ding,
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ding, ding. they thought they had the new 47%. a republican candidate who seemed insensitive. look at the tweet from the hillary clinton campaign. anyone believing americans aren't working hard enough hasn't met american workers. here is the issue. governor bush said wait a minute it's not what i was talking about. if you look at the full context. >> keep us from taking it out of context. what you meant to say was -- when you meant more hours you mean full time work? not that somebody working two jobs needs more. >> their income needs to grow. >> see the shake of the head there. he says his point was it was clear, a lot of people in this recovery are working part time jobs or two part time jobs. you need to get more people into the 40 hours. are thecontext?
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fair or unfair? >> they are taking it out of context. they are looking so hard for that one soundbyte that is going to knock out jeb bush. i don't think this one is it. >> keep looking, as you said. but you have to be more careful if you are jeb bush with how you are talking around this issue. particularly after we saw 2012. he's a bush from a wealthy family. so yeah. he's got to be a little more careful. i think this whole idea about talking to workers automatically goes to the question of wages and minimum wage. that's something where i think democrats have something of an edge. they are the ones pushing for a higher minimum wage. >> they are going to make a case if you have an investment a hedge fund or have a 401(k) you have done good. one more point about jeb bush he was on fox news last night. what do you think? suppose you are in a match up against hillary clinton, what is her biggest weakness?
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>> it's her, just this protective shield she wants to create around her candidacy. i don't think it's going to work. the fact she can't be trusted. there's never a straight answer whether it's the server the e-mails, benghazi just constantly you know validates this notion that there are two sets of rules. >> long way to go before we know if there will be a clinton/bush race. >> i wouldn't set the dvr. you are going to hear that so many times. >> it's not really working. clinton leads bush by 13 14 points. >> we'll see if it is her and he has money left he starts spending money on that. that's a theme to look for. >> that's why they got the money, john. they want to use z it to bash the other side. that's how it goes. while i have you, let me ask you a question. with what's going on in south
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carolina not just the issue, but the messenger, herself, nikki haley, she got out in front of this did it with a motion represents bringing sides together as a republican governor, immigrant family herself here of east asian decent indian decent. do you think this moment may have catapulted her into rejit mat consideration for vp? >> without a doubt. it will make her part of the conversation. does that mean she'll be the vp? we have a long way to go. look republicans expect to be running against hillary clinton. we'll see if that works out. they think fiorina is not going to be the nominee. maybe we do want to look for a woman. republicans do have a problem with nonwhite voters. if you look at the asian numbers, republicans have a problem. no question, nikki haley raised her national profile. she's in part of the conversation. we'll see where we go from here.
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>> thank you for the insight. i appreciate it. i wish you a good weekend. please watch john king break down the best political news of the week every sunday 8:30 a.m. eastern right here on cnn. so we are talking about the flag. it is going to come down today, - this morning, in charleston. what does that mean? what does it mean to the families? that's what really gave the motivation for this social change. we have them with us. we are going to talk to one of them, coming up.
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you are looking at a live picture of that battle flag. a final moment rising above people instead of being taken down and put in a museum. that's going to happen in just a couple hours. so, why did this begin? because of what happened in the church most recently and what was done by those who were victims and now heroes to those in the name of tolerance and peace. what does the latest mean to the families? alanna simmons her father among one that died in last month's attacks. i know this is a situation that mixes pain and pride. let's deal with the loss that your family has to suffer through all of this. how is everybody doing? what does today mean? >> well everyone is doing exceptionally well considering the circumstances. this is just a really nice
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gesture from the state of south carolina we really appreciate it. >> gesture. now, obviously that word means something to you. you have tried to use this as motivation. let's put up a tweet the president himself coming under the influence of something you are helping to -- so inspired by the grace shown by the families. hate won't win. that takes us to the legacy of the pastor to be. >> we want his legacy to be love. he lived in love and the irony of the situation is that he died of hate. what we did is we started a campaign called the hate won't win movement. what we are asking people to do is to go out and show an act of love to someone who is different from them. every day, we teach our kids and some of us say these words every
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day, one nation under god indy indivisible. we are trying to make a special effort for everyone to go out and show an act of love to someone who is different from them and post it to their social media with the #hatewon'twin and alcohol evening challenge people to do the same. >> people are using christianity as a basis. a good reminder -- taking the flag down. there are those who say taking the flag down won't change anything that matters and who say, you know it's just a flag it means certain things to certain people and other things to other people. what do you say to the pushback? >> well i believe the flag is a symbol of division but i could agree with that.
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taking down a flag or even doing more with gun control isn't enough to change the hearts of man, which is why we came up with the campaign to go out and show love to people so people can understand and respect our differences. >> you could have gone on a take it down campaign. you could have gone on a race the rebel tradition. you didn't. this matters to you more. what do you want to see happen next? everybody agrees taking the flag down would be a first step. what should be the second step the third step? >> the second step comes from the community and i would say the third step comes from the generation coming up. for us to make a special effort to love thy neighbor no matter who thy neighbor is. that's why we started our campaign. >> understood and a beautiful one at that. what have been the fruits of the effort so far? >> so far, we have seen
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wonderful stories of people who are different starting from like children or young black man and police officers to maybe young black and white girls that we have seen the muslim churches have donated to some of the churches being burnt down in the south. we have seen a lot of differences. people with generational differences with religious differences and of course race differences coming together to show the world that it doesn't have to be the way that it is. >> we all want to be better. that's what it's about. let's end for today with one memory of your grandfather. tell me something about him we don't know. >> well he loved football. we don't talk a lot about that on our interviews but he really loved football and he loved the carolina panthers and cam newton. >> loved cam newton. >> his picture is next to all of
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ours like it's a family picture. >> who knows, maybe you are related. that would be great. that would be great. good luck to you with the campaign. #aliveandwell. thank you for trying to make this pain into purpose. >> thank you. >> take care. >> what is it gandhi said? be the change you want to see in the world? >> that's it. >> arnold schwarzenegger final hour as governor is still haunting him. will he respond? that's next.
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. he has been on a publicity tour for his new terminator film but arnold schwarzenegger won't say a peep about his act in office. he commuted the sentence for a teenager. now the father of the convicted killer is speaking out. cnn's kyung law is still trying to get answers from schwarzenegger. >> reporter: arnold schwarzenegger refusing to talk about his final act as governor. the family is trying to go to the supreme court, sir. in office then governor schwarzenegger slashed in half the jail sentence of the son of a political ally who pleaded guilty in the 2008 stabbing death of luis santos.
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>> he thinking somebody being murdered it's below his status. >> reporter: his parents, fred and kathy santos have been fighting the commutation since 2011. how they found about it added insult to injury. no one from the governor's office called him. they found out when reporters started calling their home. the 16 year sentence was cut to just seven years amid widespread criticism that the case reeked of back door politics. es the father is fabian nunez. >> he didn't even have the heart to contact us and call us and tell us he planned to do this.
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i mean come on. be a man. >> reporter: while arnold wouldn't address the case someone else did. nunez called cnn after our story first aired on monday. he repeated statements he's made in the past. >> there was a totally different standard legal standard applied to my son. >> reporter: then went onto argue schwarzenegger righted wrongs per pechlwitch perpetuated by a judge. she wanted a high profile conviction before making a run for mayor. she calls that ridiculous. >> i would say that if that were true we were trying to treat him differently and go all out because it was a powerful person. we never would have plea bargained this case. >> reporter: but nunez and swerz
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negative schwarzenegger claimed it was never as airtight a case as the prosecution argued. he said nunez stab twodbed two others who survived. considering nunez's clean record i believe his sentence is disproportionate. >> what is your gut? >> my gut is that kyung law does a good job tracking down and getting deeper into a story that matters. >> we'll keep following it. >> speaking of one time presidential candidates bernie sanders can run and he's making gains against hillary clinton in iowa and new hampshire. should hillary be worried? why should bernie sands erers beat hillary?
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social security. we are going to expand social security. >> what do you all think of bernie? >> he should be taken seriously. >> i will get more latinos than anybody else. they're going to vote for me. and i tell you what i will take them away from hillary clinton. macy's was weak. thousands of people are cutting up their macy's credit card right now and i love that. >> this is "new day." good morning welcome to your new day. it is friday july 10th. 8:00 in the east. it is a big day just in just under two hours the confederate flag will finally be taken down from the grounds of south carolina's capital. it will go in a museum. but the debate will continue. what about other state flags and other displays. >> a battle over the flag certainly does not end in south carolina. petitions are spreading across
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the nation. >> reporter: people are already starting to gather here to see firsthand the state -- the confederate battle flag be removed from the state capital grounds. the governor signed this bill into law yesterday, surrounded by many of the lawmaker who is made this a possibility. also the family of the nine victims killed some 23 days ago in that massacre in charleston. each of those families will be receiving a pen that the governor used to sign the bill into law to sign the law that will be removing that confederate flag that is flying right now. now, listen to what the governor had to say about this historic moment. >> this is a story about action. this is a story about the history of south carolina and how the action of nine individuals laid out this long chain of events that forever showed
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