join us on monday in "the situation room." watch us live. dvr us. you don't want to miss a moment. thanks for watching. i'm brianna keilar in "the situation room." erin burnett "out front" starts right now. protesters gathering at this moment against donald trump. about to come face to face with demonstrators this hour. we are live. the fbi's deadly error. officials admitting that dylann roof who confessed to killing nine people in charleston never should have been able to buy a gun. how did the fbi fail so miserably? 50 million viewer this was illage age image and no one knows who this is. the mystery of baby doe tonight. let's go "out front."

good evening. i'm erin burnett. donald trump facing off against protesters. protesters incensed over trump's remarks about mexicans gathering at this moment outside a downtown los angeles hotel. gearing up for a demonstration tonight. trump himself about to speak at that hotel. it's called the dump trump event. spapish spanish radio and tv have been calling for protests. they are lashing out. the demonstrators are equipped with pinatas. they have the hair right? they filled them with trash, which they say represents his trash talk. the pinatas, we can report from our reporters on the ground are selling for $150 each. major crowds are expected tonight.

>> reporter: they are expected. they are predicted. it's quite a small gathering. we're at this corner just outside the luxe hotel in brentwood. walk down with me here around the corner. you can see that there are people starting to gather. we have a small crowd. they are carrying what you might expect to be typical signs. they clearly have a message to sent to donald trump as he comes to speak here. this is being organized by a conservative group called friends of abe. they describe themselves as the one conservative group in the entertainment industry. donald trump scheduled to arrive here in about an hour. these people are out here though. this is a grass-roots organization because they want him to know as he pulls up to this hotel that the immigrant rights groups here in los angeles object to what he has been saying for the past week. >> you know obviously, despite the protests and companies

pulling their support, donald trump is standing firm for what he believes in. he is doubling down on the comments. >> reporter: he is absolutely. he is actually getting support from at least one family group. we understand that there may be other family members who are meeting him. these are family members of victims. there is one in particular a high-profile case from 2008. he was a 17-year-old football standout. he was shot twice by an undocumented immigrant of known gang member who just one day earlier had been released from prison. he walked out on the street and then shot this teenager because he was carrying a spiderman backpack apparently a case of confusing him for a rival gang.

so all of this is certainly fuel to trump's fire. he plans on having a media availability with this family and others to remind people that this isn't just a made-up issue from his perspective. >> if he can talk the way he is talking, then i owe him trust to say, you know you can steer the boat. you know what i mean? let's see what you can do. who else is doing it? who else is doing it? we're not going to get nobody else out there that's talking like that. >> thanks to you. on the scene as the protesters scheduled to get into full swing. we will go back there live. our other top story, a fail injure bit failure by the fbi. dylann roof should never have been able to buy that gun.

the problem was a delay during his background check. news of the horrific tragedy as the confederate flag was removed from the south carolina capitol grounds. this is a stunning admission. how are they explaining this? >> reporter: deadly errors. a series of mistakes. a clerical error that led to dylann roof the 21-year-old gunman in the shooting that carries outy sied out the massacre that led him to getting his hands on the handgun that he used in the attack. what we are hearing is that the agent looking into his background doing the check for dylann roof was unable to determine whether or not he had been convicted of his arrests. they were unable to determine where the county was that he was arrested. that's how eventually he got his hands on the gun. >> it's pretty incredible. the bottom line is they are

saying this was a clerical error. that's outrageous that the fbi could commit a clerical error that results in a massacre of nine innocent people. >> reporter: those who we have spoken to here in columbia the capital of south carolina are saddened angered discussappointed. they hope this doesn't happen more often. the fbi agents were told -- have met with the families of the victims of the shooting. we're told that the fbi director is launching an internal investigation that will be include fwhd 30 dayd in 30 days. they are hope theg caning they can fix this. they are hoping there are not more cases like this out there. >> thank you very much. harrison reardon, a friend of one of the victims. harrison, you knew reverend simmon simmons. what goes through your head when you hear the news that dillon

roof shouldn't have been able to buy this gun, the gun that he used to kill your friend? >> i am really shocked at the news that i have heard today. to be very honest with you, i did not hear this before today. i really can't authenticate it. it's shocking to me. >> the head of the fbi, harrison apologizing. the quote that he said was, this rips all of our hearts out. he continued to say, we're all sick this happened. i'm sure he does feel that way. but is that enough? >> well if the fbi is apologetic and contrite that's one thing. but i would rather not get deeper into this because obviously it's going to be investigated. i don't have the facts on that as i said again. i didn't hear about it until today. >> i know harrison you said

you are shocked at the news. i think all americans watching are shocked at this news. for you though, of course, it's deeply personal. being from south carolina what happened today is deeply personal with the flag. we all watched that confederate flag come down this morning. it's a powerful symbol. it's gone. >> this has been a great -- this has been a great day in south carolina. it's a pivotal point for us. mean, we can meaning, we can turn the corner if our hearts point in that direction. we still have lots of work to be done. we are at a point now where we need to get about correcting the ills of the past. i must tell you though that no matter what comes out of this in terms of the turn around this is personal with me because i knew personally two of the nine and particularly one of the nine who happened to have been a next

door neighbor of mine. it's personal with me. we will get through it with the help of god and our neighbors. >> harrison i appreciate you taking the time sir. our condolences in the loss of your dear friend. >> thank you. chris is a former assistant director for the fbi's criminal investigative division. oversaw the division that okays gun purchases. you heard harrison. he lost his dear friend in this horrific event. he is shocked at the news. does it shock you? >> well it's tragic. but it's not surprising really. there are a lot of holes in the system the national check system. dispositions which are the results of the case beyond the arrest are often not entered into the system. really, this was a series of arizonaair error errors. it wasn't one thing. >> a lot of clerical errors a lot of human error went into this? >> very much so.

one, the arresting officer in the prosecutor's office didn't enter the disposition of the case. number two, the analyst sitting at their desk in west virginia when it became a manual process tory to do the research got confused about the counties. couldn't get the information right. there's a series of things that just went wrong here. this was the perfect storm. >> the fbi director now --talked about the clerical errors. they didn't see that roof had been arrested for drugs. they didn't see that. that alone -- this is what is so horrible about this. that alone would have barred him from buying the gun. he used that to slaughter nine innocent people. just on a crucial level here how can that happen? how can the system be this flawed? >> in this case the arrest record was there. the law doesn't prohibit possessing a gun if you just have been arrested. there needs to be a conviction

or an admission of the crime itself. so she saw that. but apparently she wasn't able to get to the right person to find out what happened with the case. that's where the breakdown went. it shouldn't go manual like this. the system needs to be automated all the way through the whole process. >> i appreciate your time. thank you. former assistant director for the fbi criminal investigationve division. no one caming forwarde ing coming forward to claim baby doe. who is baby doe? we go live to los angeles. protesters gathering. donald trump pinatas in hand for the dump trump protest. trump about to appear. we will go there live. an historic day in sk with the -- in south carolina. an emotional interview with the governor.

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now the picture that has moved millions. the face of mystery. more than 50 million people have shared this picture. it's a computer generated image of a young girl about 4 years old found dead in a plastic bag on a beach in boston harbor. so far authorities have no idea who killed her. laura sanchez is "out front" tonight. >> reporter: a gruesome discovery on deer island. a child, a victim without a

name. for more than two weeks, massachusetts state police have been trying to identify the little girl now known as baby doe. authorities circulating this image, hoping for a break in the case. even after being viewed more than $51 million times, baby doe's identity is unknown. >> it's sad. it's horrific. it's a child. >> reporter: this woman walks this beach every day. >> we live for our children. i have kids. i have grandchildren. we live for our kids. for someone to just throw this innocent little child, you know out like trash, it's awful. it's heartbreaking. >> reporter: other than a water treatment plant, there isn't much to be found here. baby doe was discovered in a trash bag. she's believed to be no older than 4. found wearing leggings covered

in a zebra print blanket. investigators are chasing leads including potential links to several high-profile missing children's cases. there's little to go on. >> if you are the parent or caregiver of this young girl, step forward. clear your conscience. help us identify this young child. >> this is not as unusual as you might think. there are hundreds of thousands of children including young children under the age of 5, who are missing, who are abducted. usually not by strangers. actually more than half of all homicides against children are committed by their own parents. >> reporter: this krimologist says someone close to baby doe likely knows what happened. that person may not be close to the shore where she was found. >> it's more likely that she comes from a great distance away. if she had been in approximate

im improximity, someone would have known she was missing. >> reporter: investigators say it's likely she floated here. they are not ruling out the possibility she may have come from canada, even from latin america. >> thank you very much. live from the scene outside boston. art rodderick and paul callen. paul let me start with you, more than 50 million people have looked at this picture. a beautiful little girl. computer generated image. i want to emphasize this. this is not a picture. they found the child in a garbage bag starting to decompose. the picture looks so real. is that a good thing or misleading? >> i think it's -- i'm troubled by it. it was produced by the center

for missing and exploited children. they have had a good track record of getting children back. they say their computer-generated images are accurate. when i saw this i assumed that it was a photo. >> most people do assume that. >> you assume it's accurate. as opposed to a police sketch which we're used to seeing where you say, that kind of looks like the person. i think when you see this exactness in the photo, it's going to make people think, she looks exactly like that. i don't think she does. this is made by awe computer which is estimating bone size and what the hair looked like. >> you are asking people to use their imagination. that's hard to do. >> this is a beautiful looking baby. you would look at this picture and it would be locked in your mind. could you picture something different? i don't know that it's helpful. >> art, you have spent a career tracking down killers. what do you make of the fact that no one came forward with any information about who she

is? >> it's very disheartening. i have to tell you, i'm from massachusetts. i talked to my family. i talked to my law enforcement friends up there. obviously, this is right on forefront of everybody's mind. i agree with the picture could throw a lot of people off. because those pictures when you look at the -- it's mazing the database that they use. but it's actually based on what information urine putyou are inputting. because we have no background it's hard to put anything in there and work from ground zero as opposed to knowing who the family was, having family photos. if nobody has come forward at this point until they get an identification on this child, this case could go cold very quickly. >> of course there are some things -- that child looks healthy. they say 4 years old and 30 pounds. that would be pretty malnourished. that image may not be accurate in many of the things it's portraying. do you think they will find the

person who is responsible for this? this child was put in a garbage bag, disposed on this remote island. >> obviously, horrible horrible case. when first heard about this case i immediately thought that this child could have been a victim of human trafficking or a victim of a sexual predator. i would -- they are probably doing this at this point in time. start checking with all registered sex offenders in boston and make sure their time has been accounted for. >> that's horrible to imagine. how much can the forensics tell them about how she died? to the point art is making whether there was a sexual predator involved? anything like that? any information at this point. sglt forensics can tell a lot. they can get dna. they will get bone samples, hair samples. there's probably fabric involved. all of that will tell part of the story. the question is is there dna in the database to match her to somebody to link her to a community or to a family?

that's the hard part. you might be able to find out a lot about her background her ethnic group, how large she was, what she probably looked like. but who is her mom and dad? where are the mother and father? >> who have not come forward. human trafficking could be involved. is there any chance foul play wasn't involved? to me you find a child in a garbage bag in a remote island it's clear it's foul play. it might not be? >> i mean it's obviously foul play. when you look at something like this, disposeing of a body there that particular manner is a crime. i mean i would have to assume there's foul play. i think the autopsy will show hopefully exactly what happened to this child. it will also show whether she was malnourished what possible diseases she might have had at the young age of 3 or 4. the autopsy is going to be key. you could see that computer photograph change over the next week or so. >> art, paul, thank you very much.

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at this moment growing protests at a donald trump campaign event. these are live pictures at demonstrators in los angeles. donald trump is about to speak there. he will arrive momentarily. demonstrators calling this the dump trump event. they are there to protest his comments calling some illegal immigrants rapists and murderers. kyung lah is live in los angeles. what are they saying about donald trump? i know they are awaiting his

arrival any moment. >> reporter: hoping that he will see some of the signs that they are carrying. they say dump trump. it's a social media event as well. these activists have taken the step to come out to this corner where this hotel is situated and make sure that donald trump sees what they think. here is one of the people. this is martha. you are here carrying quite a large sign. what is it that you hope donald trump sees from all the people who are gathered on this corner? >> i want him to feel all the mexican people and latino people think about him. he is an ignorant racist. we don't want him here in california. he better go back to new york. because if he tries -- even tries to run for president, latinos, mexican americans and i bet you many other people they

are not going to vote for him. who may want a president who is spreading hate and racism? who? we live in the land of the free and justice for all. we don't want that in this country. whatever he is trying to push, we don't want that. >> reporter: he is doing well in the polls so far for the candidates for -- >> let's see how he does with the latinos and mexicans. we are a power right now in the electoral poll. you know? i don't think he is going to win any latino or mexican americans vote. that's for sure. after what he is doing, forget it. we will see. >> reporter: thank you. just one of the protesters who are here on this corner. donald trump is expected to speak at a private event here an event organized for conservatives in the entertainment industry. we're not lawed inside edallowed inside the event. we are anticipating he will

speak to reporters later. >> we will monitor as he could arrive any moment. i want to bring in as we await the arrival and face off, michael lloyd along with ben ferguson. let me start with you. donald trump pinatas for sale for $150 each. something probably donald trump would admire. some enterpriseing individual. >> i'm sure he would. >> obviously, all jokes aside, this is a serious and upsetting image for many. the immigrants rights organization holding this this demonstration. they are filling the pinatas with trash. you do not think that he should back down. >> no i don't. i think there are millions of americans out there that don't think he should back down. i saw today on your network not long ago on your show a man

being interviewed, an african-american man who lost his 17-year-old son to an illegal immigrant who shot him dead on the street. this is a real problem. we need to have compassion for these people. we talk a lot of time we use the phrase being in the shadows. the victims of illegal immigrant crimes have been in the shadows for too long. they need to come out. we need to bring them out. i think that's what it donald trump has brought this subject front and center. i think that is one thing that is a mark of leadership. >> you can't deny he has brought this issue front and center. he has. he is responsible for that. despite the protests trump's campaign says that things are going so well they had to move the major event this weekend tomorrow in phoenix from a hotel to a convention center because thousands are expected to attend. the campaign is saying that this is paying off, more and more people want to hear donald speak. it seems like his message is res

resonating. >> but it's a reality tv show. it's on tour in a political wear. you look at donald trump and you see what he is doing. he loves the protests. he loves the controversy. he is probably the only candidate that truly loves all press regardless of what they are saying. is he connecting with voters? absolutely. the problem is, if you look at what he is actually saying he is insulting just as many people as he is inspiring when he has these conversations. you are right. donald trump has a point when he is talking about, there is a lot of negatives that come from illegal immigrants. there are illegal immigrants that commit heinous crimes. we have seen some of those highlighted in the last week and a half. is he the right messenger for this? is he able to say there is good things that people do and bad things? i think it's obvious, he is not the messenger that's able to

handle this in an articulate and clear way without unfortunately really making a lot of people hate him. >> jeff trump has -- here is what he said. let me let him say it in his own words. >> illegal immigrants are kaudz causing tremendous problems in terms of crime, in terms of murder, in terms of rape. they force people into our country and they are drug dealers and they are criminals of all kind. we are taking mexico's problems. they are taking people that should be in mexican prisons, mexican jails and pushing them in the united states. >> my question to you, i know you think he shouldn't back down but this is becoming the defining part of his campaign. he is quadrupling down on it for no other reason than he doesn't want to back down. is that a mistake? >> first of all, i was looking at just today statistics from

the u.s. border patrol that verify what he is talking about. this is the united states government saying this. i don't think he is doing this for political reasons. i think he really believes this. i think he is accurate. but secondly i think that this is one issue in a string of issues as we go through the campaign. what people are responding to is the fact that he is willing to speak out and speak his mind and not be up with ofone of these folks that we see in politics that will tell what you you want to hear and -- >> with all due respect, he is telling you what you want to hear. if he believes this, how did he give money to harry reid in favor of bringing in more illegal immigrants? how did he give money to hillary clinton? how did he give money to the democratic leadership including nancy pelosi, to act as if he is authentic on this issue, i'm sorry. that is laughable. look at the money and the money he came in. he directly went and supported

candidates that were in favor of amnesty for people coming to this country illegally. don't act like donald trump is a truth sayer on illegal immigration. >> ben, he is not a politician. he is a businessman. >> he is a politician. he is running for president. >> right. all of campaign finance reform -- campaign finance depends on people giving and getting money. i can go chapter and verse through one republican after another that have accepted money -- >> let's not act like this is an honest thing for donald trump. it's not. >> we will leave it -- we will hit a pause button. i have a lot more we want to talk about. it was a great conversation. i appreciate it. the cost of running for president. donald trump as you know has lost a lot of business deals to this point of whether he believes in what he is saying. he seems to.

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donald trump arriving face to face with protesters any moment in l.a. his remarks have cost him millions but he says it's peanuts to him. joe johns is "out front." >> reporter: how much has this cost you? >> a lot. >> reporter: trump acknowledging the financial fallout from his comments about illegal immigrants coming from mexico. >> they are bringing drugs. they are bringing crime. they are rapists. and some, i assume, are good people. >> reporter: since those remarks, many of trump's business partners have cut ties with the outspoken billionaire. >> my dress shirts are 100% cotton. >> reporter: macy's dropped his

mens wear line. nbc dropped his show and they will not air beauty pageants. now two celebrity chefs are pulling out of restaurant deals in his washington, d.c. hotel still under construction. he said trump's statements make it impossible to move forward. outside the hotel, a small group of protesters voicing displeasure with trump's views. >> this is the tip of the speer. >> reporter: the usbusiness community galvanized around a boycott. >> this will go on for a long time. for every brand that we hear about walking away there are probably five to ten, 15 others that are walking away quietly. >> reporter: to the average american trump's estimated losses following his inflammatory comments are enormous. in the millions of dollars. but trump brushes off the impact. >> here is the good news.

i'm very rich. i built an unbelievable company. the money you are talking about is a lot. but it's peanuts for me. it's more expensive than a campaign would cost. >> reporter: he claims he is worth $8.7 billion. forbes estimated closer to $4 billion. a chunk comes from commercial and residential real estate like trump tower. at $470 million. and trump park avenue valued at $240 million. trump puts his real estate licensing deals, brand and brand developments at 3.3$3.3 billion. precise numbers on the amount of the trump losses are difficult to pin down. however, we do expect to get a more educated guess about trump's assets liabilities and even his losses when he files formal financial statements with the federal election commission. >> thank you very much joe johns. next south carolina lowering the confederate flag for the last time.

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whom chanting usa, others crying the state's honor guard took down that flag. the confederate flag. tonight, it's at the state's military museum. don lemon was there at the ceremony. you had a chance to speak to the state's governor who throughout this controversy has not been talking to the media. you got a chance to ask questions. what did she say? >> reporter: i did, right after the flag was taken down. she said a lot. really she was very aware of the enormity of the situation, that this was history in the making. while she knew most of the eyes of the country were going to be on her because it was her decision to sponsor the bill to bring it down she said she was focused on the families of those nine people who died in the church three weeks ago. >> you know this is a surreal moment. standing out there and watching that flag come down it felt like the biggest weight was lifted off the state.

it just felt so -- it's like the state -- it's a true knewnew day in south carolina. born and raced in south carolina. the daughter of indian parents. >> reporter: does it make you more connected to the issue? do you have a special feeling? >> we grew up an indian family in a small town in south carolina. my father wears a turban. my mother wore a sarry. what i have been proud of and what i worked toward is to make sure today is better than yesterday and my kids don't go through what we went through. now i feel good. now i know my kids can look up and there won't be a flag. more reasons for us to come together. >> reporter: you have said this. i don't know if it's exact words. you have all done this because you weren't on the side of taking this down but i think it takes a big person to change their mind. why did you change your mind.

>> it wasn't that i wasn't for taking it down. south carolina very much respects history, respects tradition. so the flag has always been up there. when i came into office to have a two-thirds vote threshold was huge. it's not a republican democrat white, black, there hadn't been a bill filed to bring it down since 2007. there was so much of a divide and so much hurt in the compromise of 2000 that no one wanted to talk about it. so it was almost like people just assumed it was going to be there. >> reporter: this flag went up in 1962 correct? do you think it was a sort of poke in the eye to the civil rights movement? >> you know i'm not going to try and figure out why people did what they did. i think the more important part is it just never should have been there. and i think that even when it was on the grounds of the state house, it was right in front. these grounds are a place that everybody should feel a part of. these grounds are a place that

should be -- that belong to the people of south carolina. what i realize now more than ever is people were driving by and they felt hurt. and pain. no one should feel pain. we can have our disagreements and we can have our policy back and forth. no one but no one should feel pain over something. not over a symbol. >> what do you say, governor haley, to other states who still have parts of the flag or even the flag hanging, flying in the state? what do you say to those? >> i understand the heritage. i understand the tradition. i don't believe that they think it's hate. they really don't. they're trying to honor their former family members. but what we need everyone to know if it causes someone pain something is wrong. it that's the biggest part of it. no one should look at something and feel pain. no one should have to struggle to explain something to their children. and i tell people all the time the biggest reason that i ask for that flgag to come down i

could not look my children in the face and justify it standing there. >> speaking of pain -- it was important for you. why was it important for you to have the people around you that you had around you. you had family members, right? around you this morning. why was that important? they are certainly in pain right now. >> i am forever changed by the nine people that died in emanuel ame. changed in the way i want to every one of the funerals. not because i had to. i wanted to. i wanted to meet those people. i wanted to meet those nine people that took in some one that did not look like them did not act like them and they accepted him and parade with him for an hour. i needed to know who those people were. and what i found was i met cynthia herd her life motto was "be kinder than necessary." i met a 26-year-old, youngest of the victims had just graduated college and wanted his own barber shop. but his last words were to the

murderer and it was "we mean no harm to you you don't have to do this." >> a purrful interview fulpowerful interview. a change of heart for the governor. she is the daughter of if grants. when she was growing up she had feelings when she looked at the flag. she talked to you about that right? >> she did. she said she had feelings. really growing up here in the state of south carolina one day at a vegetable stand with her parents who were sikh her dad wore a turban her mom wore a sari the police showed up to navigate them out of the store. her dad went around and thanked every police officer and every single person there. she knew it was an odd moment. no one said a word in the car on the way home. she said it was for her, it helped her empathize with people who are sometimes seen as different or people who are minorities. and i think that really played a big role in having her make this decision. >> all right.

don lemon. thank you very much. fantastic interview. thank you for sharing it with us. >> thank you, erin. and "out front" next the carpet your baby crawls on the jacket you are wearing. many are waterproofed with toxic chemicals. an "out front" special investigation next. so this beauty can be yours with a down payment and 10% financing. oh larry, lawrence. thanks to the tools and help at experian.com, i know i have a 798 fico score. [score alert text sound] [score alert text sound] oh. that's the sound of my interest rate going down. according to this score alert, my fico score just went up to 816. 816. 816! 816! fico scores are used in 90% of credit decisions. so get your credit swagger on. go to experian.com become a member of experian credit tracker and take charge of your score.

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waterproof barrier. but toxic enough 200 scientists around the globe banded together in the declaration saying human studies show connection to cancer lower birth rate and delayed puberty. in the environment, the chemicals do not biodegrade and travel across the oceans. found even iven the bodyn the bodies of polar bears. the most toxic is being phased out around the world. why outdoor gear maker pat gone yeah is already using what it claims is a safer version of chemical on the fabrics. >> we know that particular chemistry set is a bad actor and risk for human health which is why we have gone through the actions to get rid of it. >> trying to find the one that does less harm. >> exactly. still get the performance that well are proud of and we'll back up with our guarantee while minimizing the impact. >> reporter: patagonia calls the

chemical a stopgap while it searches for a better one. but the council representing chemical companies says what is being used now is approved for human use and the industry spent $700 million over a decade to bring this alternative to market. >> this newer technology has been thorough leap tested reviewed by regulators and determined to be safe for its intended uses. >> reporter: scientists like arlene blame are not conoom are not convinced. >> they say they're safer. safer than what? the old ones are extremely harmful. do we want to risk the harm to our planet our children our lives? >> reporter: woven into all of this is politics and money. according to opensecrets.org, campaign contributions from the chemical industry spiked in last election. previously $13.5 million. in 2012 it jumped to $47 million. erin. >> was incredible statistic.

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