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defending the deal. president obama says there is no alternative to the iran nuclear agreement other than war. and he laid out his case scolding critics and brisling at a reporter. did he change any one's mind. nuclear fallout. opponents sounding the alarm claiming the deal wouldn't stop iran from building an atomic bomb. i get duing takes from the president's national security adviser and israeli ambassador to the united states. >> isis interrogation. a rare glimpse of an american terror suspect under questioning. what did the son of a police captain reveal about his alleged attack plot or contacts with isis? trump change. the billionaire presidential candidate discloses how much he is worth and does his math add
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up? we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." tonight president obama is offering a fierce defense of the iran nuclear deal as the clock starts ticking for congress to review the agreement. and a white house news conference he fired back at sharp criticism from republican opponents as well as from key u.s. allies especially israel. the president insists the deal is the best means to prevent iran from developing nuclear weapons and promises consequences if iran cheats. he visibly fumd ated at a question about americans being held captain in iran calling the question that he is content with their fate nonsense. i will talk with national security adviser susan rice. she is standing by as is ron dermer israeli ambassador to the united states and our correspondents and analysts covering all the news breaking
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right now. first let's go to senior white house correspondent, jim cost ochltacosta. >> reporter: even some of the president's fellow democrats are far from sold on this deal. answering a chorus of critics president obama came out swinging insisting his nuclear deal with iran was never designed to solve every problem with tehran. >> this deal is not contingent on iran changing its behavior not contingent on iran suddenly operating like a liberal democracy. it solves one particular problem which is making sure they didn't have a bomb. >> reporter: the president brushed off the celebrations of the deal as a victory in iran and even syria. >> it does not give me pause that mr. assad or others in
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tehran may be frying to spin the deal. >> reporter: he hit back at congress demanding they read the agreement. >> i think if congress does that then in fact based on the facts, the majority of congress should approve of this deal. but we live in washington. and politics do intrude. you'll hear some critics say, well we could have negotiated a better deal. okay. what does that mean? >> reporter: the president bris bristled on one question why americans detained were not freed. >> can you tell the country why you are content with the fanfare around this deal to leave the conscience of the nation and strength of the nation unaccounted for in relation to the four americans. >> the notion that i am content as i celebrate with american citizens languishing in iranian jails
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jails -- that's nonsense. and you should know better. i have met with the families of some of those folks. nobody is content. >> mr. obama also touted the agreements complicated and controversial inspection process dismissing doubts iran would get away with cheating. >> suddenly something's missing on the back end, they got some explaining to do. this is not something you hide in a closet. this is not something you put on a dolly and kind of wheel off somewhere. >> reporter: for now the president seems to thrive on unanswered questions taking a few extra at his news conference. >> none of us is holding out hope this will change their behavior? >> no no. look i am always hopeful that behavior may change. for the sa sake of the iranian people and peoplen the region. but i am not banking on that to say this deal is the right thing to do. >> reporter: beside the iran,
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the president raised eyebrows when he conceded he will not defeat isis while in office and when pressed would he revoke the medal of freedom for bill cosby, the president said he did not have that authority. wolf. >> at the white house, jim, thank you. there is a lot to discuss with ambassador susan rice joining us now from the white house. ambassador thank you very much for joining uh. >> good to be with you, wolf as always. >> let's clarify a few points as far as the nuclear deal with iran is concerned. i take it that all of the iaea inspection teams, all inspectors who go in will have to be from country that have formal full diplomatic relations with irans a result no americans will directly be involved in any on the ground inspections in iran is that right? >> wolf yes. the iaea which is a highly respected international organization will field an international team of inspectors. and those inspectors will in all likelihood come from iaea member
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states most of whom have diplomatic relationships with iran. we of course are a rare exception. >> no americans -- i want to be precise on this. sorry for interrupting. no americans will be on the ground in iran actually inspecting. >> no americans will be part of the iaea inspection teams. >> will americans be outside -- >> there are americans in iran on a daily basis, wolf. i'm not sure what you are asking. >> american government officials or military officials who could be inspecting? >> they're not going to be independent american inspectors separate from the iaea the iaea will do the inspections on behalf of the united states and the rest of the international community. >> i know there are american tourists and americans visit family members in iran. i'm talking u.s. government sent people diplomats for others to go in there and see what is going on. i take it they will not be doing that? >> i don't anticipate that no. >> the president does not
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anticipate restoring full diplomatic relations with iran soon. >> lot's talk about the criticism, republicans and democrats are delivering since the deal. concern about the 24-day period that the iranians would have before any inspectors would come to suspected sites. they say 24 days is way too long. to which you say? >> i say, wolf that is a misplaced concern. let sxhe plain why. in this very strong deal there will be 24/7 presence of both inspectors and cameras and surveillance at all of iran's known nuclear facilities. moreover the entirety of the iranian supply chain from uranium mines and mills to manufacturing facilities will be continuously monitored. what we are talking about is the rare case when we have a
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suspicious site or other suspicious entity that we or other members of the international community believe need to be inspected. in that case the iaea will go to iran and say "we need to look at this." if the iranians say no there will be a process for working out that access to the iaea satisfaction. if that does not occur, then the united states acting with its european partners can together decide that inspection must occur. and if it hasn't occurred by the end of 24 days iran will be in violation of the agreement. we would be in a position to go straight to the u.n. security council and automatically unilaterally by the united states reimpose sanctions you. say, 24 days is a long time. the fact of the matter is we are talking about a suspect facility the president said is not going to be something small and portable. we are talking about potentially something like an undeclared nuclear facility. a building. or a -- or something on a military base. and in that case, we will be
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watching it, as the u.s. government and members of the international community, if we see something suspect. promise you, we are looking at it. 247. in addition the kind of materials that we would be worried about being hidden are radioactive. and with the sophisticated equipment that the iaea and we and others now have any radioactive materialdez -- easily detected for a month. several months. that material remains detectable in many instances up to years. we are not concerned that length of time gives the iranians ability to hide nefarious nuclear activity. >> lot's talk about the money iran is about to get. if the deal works out. $150 billion in sanctions relief. iranian money held up. if the's been tied up under the u.n. sanctions. the u.s. sanctions. once they start getting that money, are there any restrictions on how the iranians
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can use that money? obviously they could use it to build schools or highways. but they could use it to support international terrorism, right? >> let's back up and understand what this is about. remember the sanctions that we and the international community put in place for one reason. to prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon. that was the threat that we were all concerned about. the united states israel and the whole world. this deal will verifiably prevent that from happening. the u.n. resolutions that set up the structure always envisioned if and when iran met its obligations and we could be confident that they were not engaged in illegal construction preparations for a nuclear weapon that all the sanctions would be lifted. that's what the, what we all signed up to. now, the money you are referring to we actually estimate is closer to $100 billion. not $150 billion. iranian money, as you said that has been held in accounts frozen in accounts around the world. our best judgment is first of
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all, it is going to take them quite a while to access that money. it will take they went be able to get it all at once. they won't get any of it not one dime of it wolf unless and until they take the steps that they have committed to take to dismantle the bulk of their nuclear program. so they have to take out 2/3 of the centrifuges. get rid of 98% of the uranium stockpile, render inoperative, their plutonium facility. they have to let the iaea do inspection interviews and answer questions that remany about iran's nuclear activities. among, they have to let the iaea in and establish this 24/7 monitoring i describe. all of those steps have to be taken. then at that point, the sanctions will be suspended. and iran will begin to be able to access its frozen accounts around the world. what do we think they'll spend that money on? we think for the most part they're going to need to spend it on the iranian people and
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their economy which is tanked. and rhouni the president, was elected on the hope that he would bring economic relief to the american people. yes, it is real. it is possible. and in fact we should expect that some portion of that money would go to the iranian military and could potentially beused for the kind of bad behavior we have seen in the region up until now. but the goal here wolf was never, and was not designed to prevent them from engaging in bad behavior in region. they're doing that today. the goal is to ensure they don't have a nuclear weapon when they are engaging in that bad behavior that much more dangerous. >> once the money starts flowing in. it is their money. correctly as i pointed out. you pointed out. they can do with it what they want. if they want to give $1 billion in weapons to bashar al assad. or to houti -- >> they can't do that.
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under an arms embargo. >> what if they're not sending weapons, but money? >> they may be able to send money, yes. >> lot's talk about the deal. you think it will go through the senate. the house. override a the shall veto. >> by the way, wolf to be clear, they're sending money now while they're under sanctions. there is nothing currently. >> the critics point out they will have a lot more money if the sanctions. >> they will have more money once they have verifiably given up their nuclear weapons capacity and any ability to reconstitute it. >> one final question i know you got to run, ambassador rice if the deal does fall apart, if the congress for whatever reason democrats join republicans and vote against it. they don't override a presidential the president's veto is not overridden. what would that mean for the president's legacy? >> well i think it's hardly important what it means to the president's legacy. the question will be what does it mean for u.s. national security and for the security of israel and our closest
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partnersen thepartners en in the region? >> what will happen wolf if congress decide to reject this deal. a deal negotiated by the united states partners around the world accepted by the international community as effectively preventing iran from procuring a nuclear weapon. several things will happen. first iran will be completely unconstrained and relieved of obligations under this deal and nothing to for them racing to a bomb if they so chose to do so. secondly the sanctions regime which we have pain stain stakingly put in place which has brought -- painstakingly put in place has brought iran to the tabling enabled this deal. will collapse. because countries around the world that have adhered to this regime and lost resources as a result are going to say what's the point? we signed up for the sanctions sa ream got them off to the table. they agreed to a good deal. then the united states abraogated
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the deal. iran on path to nuclear weapon unconstrained. the credibility of the united states not this administration because this will have died on a bipartisan basis, but the united states as the world leader will be very very badly damaged. i think that would be a terrible outcome. it is not in our interest nor in israel's interest nor anybody else. if this deal is going to fail let it be because the iranian government didn't implement its obligations. and itch thatf that's the case we are in a strengthened position maintain the sanctions regime. we will have the international community behind us for whatever else we may need to do. if we jettison a deal that is -- a good deal. that accomplishes everything we set out to accomplish then it is on us. and iran is unconstrained. and the sanctions regime and international unity destroyed. makes no sense. >> ambassador susan rice. thank you so much for joining us.
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>> good to be with you, wolf. as always. >> susan rice is the president's national security adviser. we'll get reaction to what we heard from the president's national security adviser and israeli ambassador to the united states ron dermer he is live here there you see him in the situation room. you'll get his his reaction to what we just heard from susan rice. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis like me... and you're talking to a rheumatologist about a biologic this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. this is humira helping me reach for more. doctors have been prescribing humira for more than 10 years. humira works for many adults. it targets and helps to block a specific source of inflammation that contrubutes to ra symptoms.
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president obama says there is good reason the israelis are nervous about the threats from iran. but he is vigorously pushing back at criticism from israel of the knew new nuclear deal. calling it the best option for peace. let's talk about the agreement, the president's news conference and the national security adviser, rob dermer israeli
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ambassador to the united states. thank you for joining us. you heard the case the president made today in that long news conference. you heard what the president's national security adviser yes. yes, israel has legitimate reasons to be concerned. but this is the best way they say for the iran nuclear program to be halted at least for 10, 15 years. >> that's not what they're saying. what they're saying they blocked iran's path to a nook leeruclear weapon. if that were true that would be a deal israel could support. it is true iran accepted temporary constraints. main restrictions removed in ten years virtually all restrictions in 15 years. at best at best if iran does not violate the deal there is a lot of use with inspectors and everything else over ten years, at best a temporary blocks temporarily would block iran's path to the bomb. after ten years they're on a fast highway to nuclear weapons.
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that has huge dangers for israel. iran represents a threat to israel. and for our arab neighbors they're seeing in ten years, little more than ten years that iran is going to be poi tosed. the president said on npr, the breakout time in year 13 14 would be close to zero. those are the president's word. the arab states know that as well. that means they will race to get nuclear weapons of their own. a good faith effort by the president and his team to prevent one very dangerous regime could lead to nuclearization of the middle east. >> let's design 10 15 years, the iranians will build a nuclear weapon. doesn't israel have military options available to launch air strike and destroy iranian nuclear in the past israel against syria, iraq. you would still have the option in 10 15 years. the u.s. would have that option as well. >> look iran in 10 15 years
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will have a legal nuclear program. a massive enrichment capacity that would be fully legal. >> iran is a member of the nuclear nonproliferation. >> the treaty is paper handcuffs. iran will be a member of the npt until it decide not to be. >> they would be violating that? >> if the npt is protection we don't need to do anything with iran today. the problem is today iran has an illegal nuclear program facing a head wind of sanctions. in ten years, iran will have a fully legal program, not only the sanctions relief they're going to got today but a massive increase inic icinicic -- increase in economic power. if yes, iran is doing all these other things we locked down the nuclear program and removed the threat period. that would be one thing.
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that is not what is happening. the nuclear issue is still a threat. that's why this is such a bad deal. >> the president says if you have a better idea. he is anxious to hear it. hasn't heard it from you yet. >> a better idea exactly the idea ambassador rice said why did we get into this. prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon. this deal does not pass the test. >> what's the alternative? >> the alternative continue with a military threat and crippling sanctions and prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon not for ten year and hope for the best but to prevent them from getting a nuclear weapon today and tomorrow. this deal doesn't do it. that's why it is a very bad deal. >> the argument is over the past ten years or so, of sanctions which have been very strict especially in recent years it hasn't stopped iranians from developing centrifuges,
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enriching uranium. several hundred centrifuges to 9,000. >> iran stopped its nuclear program in 2003 when it face aid credible threat. there weren't serious sanctions. there have not been serious sanctions on iran for ten years. sanctions at various degrees. iran went to the negotiating table. instead of increasing the pressure our concern with interim agreement, the pressure was reduced. that's why you have the deal you have today. you have to continue the pressure on iran. i think this agreement need to be rejected. you have to keep a credible military threat the president says he is not going to let them get a nookuclear weapon. keep the pressure on iran. to get to a deal that stops their nuclear weapons program period. today and tomorrow. >> i want you to respond to what we heard from the president's national security adviser, susan rice let me play this clip.
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>> once the money starts flowing in it is their money correctly as i pointed out, you pointed out. their money. they can do with it whatever they want. if they want to give a billion in weapons to al assad or -- >> they can't do that wolf. they will still be under an arms embar go. that would prevent them from sending weapons anywhere. >> what if they're not sending weapons they're just sending money. >> they may be able to send money, yes. >> billions of dollars is a lot of money. i don't know what percent. $100 billion. $150 billion they will use. >> she says $100 billion. >> they use 20%, 30%, 20 billion to 30 billion can fund a lot of terrorism. don't think they will establish a gi bill for returning members of the revolutionary guard. they're not changing their behavior. four days ago the president of iran hhrhouni went to a rally, death to america death to israel. burning american and israel
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flags. it wasn't 40 years ago. it was four days ago. the supreme leader of iran telling you we are going to continue doing what we are doing. true they're funning a lot of this stuff today. but you are going to make the prob policemen 50% worse. that's just the sanctions relief. not talking oil sales. not talking all the investment that will flow into iran. iran is going to become a much richer and more dangerous country after this deal than it ties day. >> ambassador dermer thank you for coming in. >> thank you. >> ron dermer israeli ambassador to the united states. ahead, how is the son of a boston police captain influenced by isis to plot terror attacks targeting college students in massachusetts. just released video giving us rare insight. >> cnn exclusive, new information about who shot down a malaysian passenger plane over ukraine and how they did it. we'll tell you what our sources are revealing about the connection to russia. i'm saying is, people like options. when you take geico, you can call them anytime you feel like saving money. it don't matter, day or night.
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sleep train's interest free for 3 event is ending soon. ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ tonight we are hearing a terror suspect describe how he was influenced by isis in his alleged plot to commit mass murder with home made bombs. released video of a boston captain's son. pamela brown is joining us now with details. pretty dramatic video, pamela. >> absolutely. damning evidence. the video played in open court
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in massachusetts showing 24-year-old, the son of a boston police captain who has a long history of mental illness explain to federal authorities why she supports isis. this explanation coming after authorities arrested him on july 4th for allegedly wanting to blow up school cafeterias in the name of the terrorist group. take a listen. >> you know isis this isil that all these things. what is your take on that? what do you feel about, you know, the group that calls themselves isis or isil? good thing. >> what part of what they're doing guide? like what what is there again
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an edge kags forucation for us too. what is their ultimate goal? what are they doing? what's good? >> they're implementing a shariah, freeing people from oppression. wherever they go they're changing things. finally, finally establishing khilafah. >> after that video was played the judge ordered he be held without bond. authorities moved in to arrest him after he acquired four firearms. federal authorities say they also found evidence inside his apartment, that he was constructing molotov cocktails, two machetes and pressure cooker. authorities say it was clear he was inspired by the boston marathon bombings. >> what a story this is. pamela thank you very much.
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evan perez, and tom fuentes, and the former cia counterterrorism official phillip mudd. how does this happen? the son of a boston police officer become an isis radical? >> i spent 15 years watching these cases. the more cases you see, the more confirms there is no model. rich people poor people converts. people native born islam, people who travel here from overseas people who grow up here. i think what we are learning you can't profile in the cases you can't find a profile. there are a couple of characteristics you see here i think are common. in the new age of lone wolf cases. one when i watched that video i saw something i never would have seen with an al qaeda prisoner. these people like this guy have very little knowledge what they're talking about. his explanation, religious justification is so thin. you can cut through it with a pair of scissors.
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he doesn't know what he is talking about. the second and final, state of mental illness with a lot of the cases is substantial. more and more cases you are seeing people who switched is turned on because their mental capacity is limited. he is not only going before a judge he will have to get evaluated by a psychiatrist to see if he is fit for trial. >> because he makes a good point, phil tom. even in the court documents it says he has a history of some mental problems. >> right. he does. part of the reason they wanted to release this in video form is to show his explanation and what his thinking is. what he was intending to do. mentally ill or not. this is what this individual is going to be capable of extreme violence my machete, knife, by gun, by bomb. he need to be stopped. they also also a classic demonstration of the fbi's rapport building interview technique. take their time. let them explain it. give him a chance. ask him kind of direct, what questions what do you mean by this? what are you believing?
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what are you thinking? and a classing of letting this guy explain how bad he is going to be. >> explain why the fbi decided to cover his face? >> well i think that you know they might have had a legal reason to do that. i am not sure. he is not convicted yet. ma that's why. >> maybe they didn't want to show his face so isis could use it for propaganda purposes either. evan the -- this young guy, 24-year-old, he is the son of a boston police captain. tell us about his father? >> well his father wolf is a 27-year veteran of the boston police department. you see his picture right there. and he is among those people who responded when the boston bombing happened. marathon bombing happen. so, the remarkable thing here is that the father is the one who grew concerned about his son. and actually called the fbi in to to turn him, turn him in essentially. and to start this case. i just want to add one quick
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thing to the conversation about the son, he is charged with a weapons charge. you mention, he has a history according to court papers mental illness. i think what you are seeing there is how in control of his own, of his mental faculties he seems to be. at least from the portrayal that you see in that video. keach in mind keep in mind wolf until july of last year. jen really the fbi did not record these types of interrogation. that was a rule change the justice department passed under eric holder the former attorney general. so it is remarkable and how unusual it is for us to be able to see a video like this. because in the past we never really got to see these. and so that's kind of remarkable about this particular case. is that now we have seen what what the fbi was able to get from him. and it also played a role into this judge's decision. despite the fact that he has mental illness to hold him under these charges, wolf. >> phil also shows how
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important the family members are in cooperating with law enforcement in a situation like this. he was actually the fbi was alerted by this by the father. >> yeah. but that that there is a reverse piece of that wolf. that is it gets back to the mental status of this individual. an most of the cases the father can't alert because the individual being radicalized is smart enough sensitive enough even if he is 17 1, this guy is 23 24 to know. as soon as you start talking to somebody who might talk to law enforcen't youscement enforcement, you are in trouble. in my mind. what the guy said in the interview. and the guy was enough to alert is not indication of enough to guilt. some are going to say, this guy wasn't smart enough to know he shouldn't be talking to law enforcement and shouldn't be talking to his dad. >> one quick point, tom, why did it take a year to arrest this guy? they have been watching him for a year. >> i think they wanted to let him have the opportunity to show he was actually going to do the
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bad things. one other point about the father. the father saved his life. yes he turned him in. must have been clear to the father this guy was going to go out do an attack kill other people including himself. and that he saved other people's lives and his own son's life by cooperating and turning him in. >> his son may be going to jail for a while. >> in jail but he will be alive. >> tom, evan phil. thank you. casting blame for the downing of a passenger plane over ukraine. we're learning actual culprits aren't the only one being held responsible. stand by we have exclusive new information. >> donald trump by the numbers. as he climbs in the polls he says he is revealing just how rich he really is. is there more to the financial statement though than meets the eye?
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tonight cnn exclusive. learning details who is responsible for the deadly downing of a malaysian commercial airliner nearly a year ago. sources are revealing findings from the investigation. our aviation correspondent rene marsh is here she has been digging into the story and you are getting exclusive new information. what are you learning? >> reporter: sources say dutch investigators not only know the exact type of missile used to shoot down mh-17, they're also placing blame on the airline and laying out extremely detailed evidence that incriminates one rebel group. tonight, cnn has learned investigators of malaysia airlines flight mh-17 say evidence points to pro russian rebels as the culprit for bringing down the passenger
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plane. a draft report by the lead crash investigators, the dutch safety board, also indicates malaysia airlines did not do enough to keep the plane out of harm's way. according to two sources with knowledge of the investigation, the report pinpoints the exact type of missile used. a russian buke surface-to-air missile and the report pin points where it was launched and who was in control of the territory where it came from. >> the dutch safety board is very respected worldwide. they are methodical. they are not political in any way. and they have conducted this investigation in painstaking detail. >> reporter: the boeing 777 from amsterdam was at 30,000 feet over the region of eastern ukraine when it went down. u.s. officials have said a radar system saw a surface-to-air missile turn on and track an aircraft right before mh-17 was shot out of the sky.
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sources say the report blames malaysia airlines for failing to avoid the conflict zone. u.s. airline carriers make decisions about where to avoid flying based on warnings other countries send to their pilots. dutch investigators say malaysia airlines did not review other country's warnings and was unable other airlines were avoiding the area. >> it's sloppy. it's not good procedure. it's not -- it shows a certain lack of commitment to a culture of safety. >> reporter: russian observers say the new details are a blow to russian president vladamir putin's credibility. in the past putin denied any responsibility for the crash of mh-17. >> there its so much overwhelming evidence that yes the kremlin can continue to deny that it doesn't have involvement, but it just does not stand to any test.
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>> reporter: well the final report is expected out this fall. we have reached out to malaysia airlines and russian officials for reaction to our reporting, but have not received a response. the crash investigation is separate from the ongoing criminal investigation, but wolf it is worth remembering, some 298 people on board that plane all died. >> yeah very worth it. learn lessons from that. thank you. good reporting by you. rene marsh. thank you. >> >> just ahead, the two republican presidential candidates meeting today at trump tower in new york. what did they talk about? stand by. it's a golden opportunity to discover the luxury of freedom. ♪ to venture further. ♪ to experience more. ♪ to make a routine of breaking with routine. ♪ come in to the lexus golden opportunity sales event where you'll find some of the best offers of the year
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say it and see it. the x1 voice remote, only from xfinity. tonight, donald trump is exposing his bottom line. his campaign exposing he has a net worth of in excess of $10 billion. the republicans' income is listed at $362 million last year. the federal election commission confirms that trump has filed a financial disclosure statement, a requirement to participate in the upcoming presidential debate. let's bring in dana bash gloria borger and jeff zellany. they put out a press release. the specifics, that hasn't been
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released. >> the campaign have filed it. we have not seen that on the website. the president release was interesting. classic donald trump fashion. he said this report was not designed for a man of mr. trump's massive wealth. he is making a point that he is the wealthiest the most robust financial picture of any candidate in the race. we don't have much of a picture beyond that. he said he had $8.7 billion in a net worth. now he says over 10. >> forbes magazine says he is worth $4 billion. >> as jeff said what we have is a press release that's a couple of pages. we don't have the actual financial disclosure form which will give us details of how he adds up to over what he says is over $10 billion. this to add to what you were saying to the form. the reason why he says it's not designed for someone of his wealth. the most he can sign off on is to have holdings of more than
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r50 $50 million. he has buildings $1.5 billion. >> it's interesting that the fact that he is doing this filing these reports about his worth. that indicates he is in it. he is in this game. >> he is totally in it. he is he has a different attitude toward his wealth than most candidates. mitt romney had a difficult time talking about his wealth. after hillary clinton said they were broke, she had to say, not really we're wealthier than most people. donald trump, no apologies. his bumper sticker is, i'm very rich. which means, i'm very successful and that is why you should vote for me because i will bring you success. it's completely different. >> one thing that i talked to him about yesterday when i met him at his winery speaking of him being rich, in virginia is the fact that 40% of republican voters in a recent poll said they don't think he is serious,
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he is doing it for publicity. the point he made to me is why would i do that if i'm going to put out my financials? >> it's impossible to fact check this. he is saying what they are worth. he cannot say exactly -- it's impossible for us to say that any of this is actually true. >> i want to switch gears for a moment. at the presidential news conference the president was asked about possibly revoking the presidential medal of freedom that bill cosby received years ago from president bush. watch this. here is the president's reaction. >> if you give a woman or a man, for that matter without his or her knowledge, a drug and then have sex with that person without consent, that's rape. >> gloria he says he can't revoke it. there's no procedure for doing that. he was very blunt. >> first of all, he knew there wasn't a mechanism to do it
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which leads me to believe that he had actually thought about it in advance. secondly i think this is sort of the newer version of obama that we have been seeing over the last few months. i think this was an answer given by somebody who is the father of two daughters and who wanted to make this point personally. and we have seen that from him in a lot of different ways over the last few months. and i think this is something who is speaking from the heart on this and saying you know what don't confuse this with anything else. >> the question here is right before that clip he said it's my practice to not comment on matters that are possibly under investigation or litigation. then he went ton sayon to say this. we have not seen many real moments like this. i thought it was quite significant today. >> dramatic moment. most of the news conference was on the iran nuclear deal.
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then april ryan asked about bill cosby. i suspect the president and his aides were not prepared or thinking it was going to come up. >> i don't know. i think these days there are -- i don't know if you would call this a pop culture issue. it's deeper than that. that come up. they probably did prepare. i did think that the fact that he seemed to be very well versed in what happened with bill cosby was very note worthy. >> i'm sure he grew up watching all those shows, like all of us. >> it has been a topic of discussion in the house. without question it would be. this was given to bill cosby under george w. bush under president bush. we have seen the video now. so significant. >> there are two senators who have said that he should actually -- that cosby should give back the medal voluntarily. the president did not address that. but, again, he could have just stopped and said there's no mechanism to do that. i will move on.
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i think he would have done that his first term obama. at the end of his term i think he wanted to say more. >> whatever he wants at this point. thanks very much. finally, i would like to pay tribute to a legendary journalist a journalist who broke new ground for women in television news marlene sanders has died. she was an award winning correspondent for abc news cbs news and other news outlets. she was the first network news woman to report from vietnam, among first during her long and impressive career. the mother of a member of our situation room family our senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. jeff says his mom informed and inspire aid againd a generation. he says he was lucky to have her as a mom. our thoughts our prayers are with you and your family. marlene sanders, 84 years old. remember follow us on
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