>> the greatest thing we give them is hope. >> to nominate a hero go to cnn heroes.com. that's it for tonight. i'm don lemon. thank you for watching. "a.c. 360" starts right now. thanks for joining us. a lot to get to tonight. president obama, bill cosby, bill nye and the dwarf planet pluto. we begin with donald trump, the co-leader for the republican nomination for president. new polling tonight on that and another new number. his net worth. today the trump campaign says it filed papers with federal election officials on his finances and as only donald trump can, the press release offered so much more. dana bash has the bottom line. >> i am really rich. >> just how rich? donald trump now says he has a net worth of more than $10 billion, and he says he made more than $362 million last year alone. >> it's an unbelievable company.

for greater than what -- i built that. i built it. >> with classic trump hue bris his campaign calls his wealth so vast it was hard to fill out the federal election commission form. if a building owned by him is worth $1.5 billion, the box checked is $50 million or more. staggering figures released to prove -- trump told cnn that he is serious about his presidential run. but trump did not yet make the details of this fec financial disclosure public to verify claims like making more than $213 million over 14 seasons of his reality show "the apprentice." as for gop voters it seems the more they see donald trump -- >> the silent majority is back! and we're going to take the country back. >> the more they like him. his favorability rating among republicans, a key indicator for any candidate, more than doubled from just 23% to 57% in a new

abc news "washington post" poll. four in ten still say they have an unfavor rabble viewable view of the candidate. these latest numbers may indicate that unlike flash in the pan candidates who served in 2012. >> nine nine, nine. >> god bless you everyone. >> donald trump may have staying power. >> they're killing us a at the border and they're killing us in trade. they're killing us. >> trump's at times politically tough talk it mainly resonating a certain segment of the base. a poll showed him for the first time leading the large gop pack those who identify as very conservative view him most favor raably. 47%. the very conservative voters are unlikely to support jeb bush and the gop primary, is he is now trying to use trump as a foil to appeal to more moderate

republicans. >> a republican will never win by striking fear in people's hearts? >> how about ted cruz and how about ben carson and others that say what trump said is exactly right? you have to mention them too. >> those republican candidates are embracing trump. in fact ted cruz who has gone out of ways had i to compliment the billionaire, is even meeting privately with trump in new york today. >> dana bash joins us. the new gallup poll was released on how americans think donald trump would do with big issues. what were the results? were they surprising? >> some ways yes. the really really rich mantra. it's the statement that if he knows how to make billions for himself he knows how to fix american finances. 56% say he would do a good job handling the economy. 44% said he would do a good job handling immigration which shows where the republican electorate is on the issue pretty much

split. on the issue of international affairs only 24% think he would do a good job on mexico. three-quarters are not buying his argument that he can negotiate deals and handle mexican leaders better than anybody with regard to illegal immigration. only 23% of republicans say he would do a good job on foreign affairs. >> dana bash, thanks >> let's get some perspective from our panel. republican strategist rich galen who once had the formidable job of speaking for house speaker newt gingrich. also former reagan white house political director jeffrey lord, a contributor editor for "american spectator" and democratic strategist paul begala, who strategizes these days as part of a pro hillary clinton super pac and long-time advisor of president clinton in the '90s. >> jeffrey, the press release on trump's finances what do you make of it? if in fact everything seems true it makes it -- does it make it near impossible for any republican to compete with him just economically? >> well my first thought was,

gee, i guess he's rich! i guess he was right about this. >> i had the same thought, actually. >> [ laughing ] my second thought is you know -- i once -- i wish i could tell you where i heard this but somebody said that a fund-raiser for donald trump is a meeting with his accountant. i do think that this is -- i do think that this is a big deal. we hear how much jeb bush has raised we hear how much other candidates have raised or are not raising in some cases. this is a man who literally has to make a phone call and make a decision or something approximating that and it's done. i do think this is a very very big deal. >> does it change the way he then does his campaign? because i mean you know i think what a lot of people don't realize is how much time a lot of these candidates spend just working the phones, trying to raise money. asking people for money. rich. >> well yes, he doesn't have to do any of that. there is a limit to how much money can do and i'm old enough

to remember one word edsel. i mean no matter how much money ford spent promoting that car, it was a bust. and so at some point you just get to the diminishing returns level. i mean there is only so many tv stations in the new hampshire markets, only so many in iowa only so many in south carolina. >> rich to that point, one, i imagine donald trump listening to that and hearing you compare him to an edsel and exploding. but i mean to that point, he is leading in the polls. and not only that he actually has a quite a large ground operation in new hampshire, bigger than some of the other candidates out there, and there is no indication that that's going to stop anytime soon. >> i wrote about this the other day. at some point four years ago michele bachmann led the polls. herman cain led the polls. son santorum gingrich. it's one of the things. they come and go.

everybody feels the goods and says nah. in the end it was mitt romney. i don't think donald trump will be the nominee of the republican party. >> paul interesting point about michele bachmann leading the polls at this time last time. is donald trump in the same category? >> with all respect to congresswoman bachmann no. i think he has more talent. money giving you staying power in politics. and he has tons of money. that must vex republicans. i am a skeptic that over time he can win the nomination. he's good but not that good. >> it's interesting, jeffrey because somebody looking at the financial release would say, look this guy may be the richest candidate ever to run for office. i don't know about looking way, way back. but certainly extraordinarily rich as he frequently will tell you. yet, it seems like a lot of the people who he is appealing to are not the elites are not the

other, you know folks who are high up on the economic pyramid. it's -- you know that for all his money, he is appealing, and maybe it's intentional, but he is appealing to a real constituency that is not at his economic level. or anywhere close to it. >> anderson i have to say, i spent some time with him once and he does have this reaganesque ability to communicate with regular folks. he is a new yorker. he is very plain spoken. >> he is at 17% in the most favorable poll. 17%. even barack obama got 37% in iowa. so he's got a long way to go. plus you know he is not taking as much out of the -- ron bronstein had a really good article in "the national journal" today pointing out that this is coming out of the high. most of it is the tea party candidates on the right.

nobody in the republican party, i don't believe, is sitting around saying oh my goodness. i have to decide between jeb bush and donald trump. nobody is making that decision. >> galen is trying to kill my buz, anderson. >> i thought you would put your hands over your ears and start humming, paul. the abc "washington post" poll came out today and shows trump leading over jeb bush. same poll shows over 61% of americans view trump as unfavorable. 81% of latinos have an unfavorable view of trump. are those numbers surmountable? >> no. no. you can change anything. i shouldn't have been so glib. yes but i don't think it is for trump. you can overcome bad poll numbers. it's early. when you start to build in your image. this guy is all about image. same image that's driven him up

to a 57% favorable among republicans have him as 61% negative among all. 81% negative with hispanics. the republican base loves this guy. they love him. the problem is the republican base ain't the same as america. in republican primaries, 90% to 95% of the voters are white. when we get to the general election 70% to 71% are white. totally different country. >> again, i used to hear this about ronald reagan all the time. >> they were all white then! >> jeffrey lord paul begala rich galen. set your dvr. up next president obama the deal with iran and mixing it up with reporters. we'll get perspective from new york times columnist tom friedman. the president weighing in on bill cosby as well. we'll talk about what he said when "360" continues.

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president obama defended plenty of big idea against plenty of tough opposition during his presidency. few though match his defense of yesterday's nuclear deal with iran. either in the stakes involved potentially war or peace or the opposition he is facing from congress. he took that on today and showed a side of himself many observers have not seen from this president. jim acosta was there. >> reporter: answering a chorus of critics president obama came

out swinging insisting his nuclear deal with iran was never designed to solve every problem with tehran. >> this deal is not contingent on iran changing its behavior. it is not contingent on iran suddenly operating like a liberal democracy. it solves one particular problem which is making sure they didn't have a bomb. >> reporter: the president brushed off the celebrations of the deal as a victory in iran and even syria. >> it does not give me pause that mr. assad or others in tehran may be trying to spin the deal in a way that -- they think is favorable to what their constituents want to hear. >> he hit back at opponents in congress demanding they read the agreement. >> i think that if congress does that then, in fact, based on the facts, the majority of congress should approve of this deal.

but, we live in washington. and politics do intrude. you'll hear some critics say, "well we could have negotiated a better deal." okay, what does that mean? >> the president bristled at why americans detained in iran were not freed as part of the deal. >> can you tell the country, sir, why you are content, with all the fanfare around this deal, to leave the conscience and the strength of this nation unaccounted for in relation to the four americans? >> the notion that i am content, as i celebrate with american citizens languishing in iranian jails -- major, that's nonsense. and you should know better. i have met with the families of some of those folks. nobody is content. >> mr. obama also touted the agreement's complicated controversial inspection process dismissing doubts that iran

would get away with cheating. >> suddenly something is missing on the back end they got some explaining to do. >> this is not something you hide in a closet. this is not something you put on a dolly and kind of wheel off somewhere. >> reporter: the president seemed to thrive on the unanswered questions taking a few extra at the end of his news conference including one on bill cosby. >> if you give a woman or a man for that matter, without his or her knowledge a drug and then have sex with that person without consent, that's rape. >> jim joins us from the white house. the president was asked about state of the middle east and his legacy there, what did he say? >> well, it was interesting, anderson, the president was asked how does he hope to leave the middle east when he leaves office. the president raised eyebrows when he consent he is not going to defeat isis as president of the united states nor does he

think he will settle the syrian sill war while in office. i had a chance to ask him at the end of the news conference, taking all these different questions from reporters, abut this iran deal. where will iran be at the end of the deal, 10, 15 years from now? he said it is not about changing iran's behavior. not holding out hope iran will fundamentally change. it is really about constraining their nuclear program. that's what the deal is all about. the question is whether or not the public, members of congress, the international community will accept those answers. >> jim acosta, appreciate it. president obama telegraphed a lot of what he said today when he sat down with op-ed columnist, thomas friedman. joins us now. thank you for joining us. >> to jim's point, the president talking with you is clearly trying to limit the scope of what impact this deal will have to just nuclear weapons over a limited time frame, ten years or more. you believe though that ultimately his legacy on iran will be determined by whether this deal lead to it, some sort

of transformation within iran and u.s. iranian relations not just the nuclear issue. >> the point i was making, anderson. i understand why he wants to limit it to just the scope of the deal itself. have we set back iran's ability significantly to weaponize its nuclear program for at least a decade. the point i was simply making is that, you know i went into journalism in beirut in 1979 with the iranian revolution. my whole journalism career has been framed by the iran/u.s. cold war. and the fact that obama has taken through the deal, obama and the iranians have taken the first steps to end the cold war inevitably is going to frame this smaller deal around nuclear weapons in the larger context of did it, did it not get us to the finish line? did, did it not lead to a real transformation in this relationship? >> it was interesting. you wrote some two weeks ago i think it was in an article.

you've said this deal could be as big if not big an earthquake in the middle east as u.s. invasions of afghanistan and iraq. do you really believe that, that is the case? this could cause more upheaval or at least more shock waves than those wars? >> well, you know the way i think about it, andersen. imagine your older brother walked out the door in 1979. you took this bicycle. i took his stereo. our sister took his bunkbed. and you know since for 36 years we kind of really enjoyed a kind of unique relationship alone with mom and dad. then, one day, in 2015, your brother is back. he says i want my bicycle, i want my bunkbed, i want my stereo, and i want a piece of mom and dad again. that's what you have got here. our allies in the middle east have really had a -- kind of monopoly on their relationship with united states. by the way for many good

reasons. iran took itself out by its terrible behavior. but of the fact is, it's coming back now. and it's coming back at a time, anderson when the arab world is incredibly weak and disorganized. so they are incredibly worried about their own ability to balance iran. israel will and can take care of itself. the arab world is becoming in many areas human development disaster area. the fact that iran is now back will have more money and the ability project its power obviously has them freaked out. >> that's one of the interesting things. >> i talked to the israeli ambassador to the u.s. -- israeli bfd to the u.s. last night. one of the arguments he makes. there is a huge influx of money going to iran with end of sanctions and could be use ford

terrorism around the world by iran or bad actions. president obama in talking to you said essentially, you have to deal with that separately from this deal. you can't make that argument in relationship to the deal? >> we in israel don't have 100% alignment of interests here. that is, we want a iran that cannot produce a nuclear weapon for as long as possible. israel does too. that's where our interests overwhelmingly overlap. beyond that we can actually live with, don't want to say necessarily a strong iran but a healthy iran. israel's point of view is -- it not only doesn't want iran to have nuclear weapons. it doesn't want a strong iran either. now i understand why. because iran has been supporting some of israel's worst enemies, hamas, hezbollah, to name two. there is a divergence of interests. ultimately we want an iran healthy enough to balance the sunni arab world so we don't have to do that. i understand israel's position. a separate issue. this is a complicated story. >> to say the least.

president obama is clearly though framing this is in the interview with you as a deal with the same kind of rationale as nixon/china, reagan/soviet union. >> his point is simply, we meg -- negotiate arms control agreements with the soviet union, some times we stopped when they invaded afghanistan. some times we continued. we were concerned over one overarching thing. the fact that they had a nuclear pistol loaded and aimed at our head. we said we will deal with the overarching threat. first, foremost, overall. we will have to deal with iran the same way. i will say there is one party in the whole story who we really haven't heard from very much yet. that's the iranian people. now i am not here to tell you i have any idea how they're going to react to the deal in the long run whether there will be a transformation. i think one should be very, very circumspect. and certainly

not make any predictions. the fact is they mounted a revolution in 2009. okay. they picked out rouhani. the iranian election. allowed five men to run. they were mr. black. mr. black. mr. black. mr. black. mr. light black. mr. light black was rouhani, okay. the one perceived as just a little more liberal and inclined to open iran up to the world. the majority of iranians rushed to him. so that tells you something that is down there. one thing you learn when you go to iran, the iranian people have had enough islam crammed down their throat to know they want less. and had enough democracy to know they want more of it. >> interesting i am going to watch that space. >> been there once. four days. i was arrested for three of them. i've didn't get to see much. hope to go back. tom, thank you. >> pleasure. >> coming up next. more on the moment when president obama weighed in on

blick. one bill cosby. one of his accusers is joining us with her reacts. later as the video surfaces of el chapo ducking out of his cell. inside the tunnel he used to escape. and update you on the manhunt. today, president obama was

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freedom would be revoked now that dozens of women said he raped them and cosby said under oath he had quaaludes. to give to women he wanted to have sex with. the president was asked about cosby during his press conference today. he said there is no precedent or mechanism for revoking a medal of freedom given to cosby. but he made it pretty clear what he thinks of cosby's admission. take a look. >> if you give a woman or a man for that matter without his or her knowledge a drug and then have sex with that person without consent that's rape. >> well after that press conference one of cosby's alleged victims, model beverly johnson wrote this on twitter. president obama states on tv drugging and having sex with a woman after is called rape. beverly johnson joins me now on the phone. i am wondering when you heard the president actually say that weighing in against bill cosby, what went through your mind?

>> well, anderson i am in d.c. presently at a speaking engagement, i was in my hotel room, the television was on cnn, i normally have it on cnn. so i was -- my heart was beating really fast the i believe that the president obama has his finger on the pulse of this nation. and what he said was very profound and very powerful. and much needed. >> the fact that it was the president of the united states speaking from the podium, does it give you a sense that the tide has really turned now here. that so many people now based really particularly on once they saw the deposition that cosby gave, in which he admitted to buying quaaludes, going back to the '70s. do you think the tide has

turned? >> i think the tide has turned with the fact that there is a rape culture in america. and you know, on the college campuses, you know on the work place and also with this cosby situation. so i really feel that -- it even has a more, it has more impact than just this cosby situation. >> the president said there is no precedent or mechanism for actually revoking bill cosby's medal of freedom which we saw him getting there. did you -- do you accept that? does it matter to you that he has this? >> for me what matters is that we're having a conversation about violence on women. in a way from the highest office in our nation and that's, you know, president obama. for me that matters. >> and that conversation is

certainly going to be had a lot of places tonight as it has been for many nights since all of this broke. beverly johnson, appreciate you being with us. thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. >> joining me, cnn legal analyst, defense attorney, and also ariva martin. ariva, you believe president obama weighing in on the controversy is a big moment for survivors of abuse? >> absolutely. when you have someone in his position, the president of the united states saying if a woman is drugged and you have sex with that woman that constitutes rape. i think women who have come forward with respect to the allegations against bill cosby will feel vindication. i think those women fearful of coming forward when they have been in similar situations will also be empowered by the words of the president. i think it was a good moment for survivors as well as advocates. >> mark, does it seem to you that president obama is now kind of weighing in on controversial topics that maybe earlier in his presidency he didn't?

>> precisely. i think you are seeing obama 2.0 in terms of these things. today it's weighing in on, what the, kind of a professorial definition of rape. yesterday it was talking about the criminal justice system is broken. something that is obvious to those of us in it. to have the president say that is spectacular. and i think there has been kind of an unleashing if you will of him and what he wants to say. although i will temper that with when he says there is no precedent for revoking the medal of honor, you know he could set that precedent. >> medal of freedom we should point out. >> medal of freedom. >> you think he could put in some kind of a way to revoke it? >> absolutely. with one stroke of the pen this week he can get rid of 47 federal criminal convictions. one stroke of the pen he can get

rid of the medal or revoke the medal as well. as ariva says this is an important moment for women who are victims to, kind of rejoice in, somebody recognizes this. whether it is the women who were victims of bill cosby or kesha and the victim of dr. luke. this is a monumental moment for a lot of victims in this country. >> ariva, you believe you, alluded to this, that the more attention this cosby case gets that the greater the likelihood that women will come forward whether directly related to cosby or other cases, other forms of abuse? >> absolutely. i've been saying this on your program since the story broke. this is important. for those people who keep saying, why are we talking about this, statutes of limitation have run. and there its nothing that can be done. i say that is absolutely false. that by talking about it. pushing the story as much as possible.

we are giving permission to those women who are often afraid to come forward. and who knows. there may be women who were subjected to bill cosby's, you know, drug and drug induced sex, rape, that happened within the statute of limitations. and they weren't willing to come forward. they were afraid. he is powerful. he is rich. someone may not have believed them. they didn't think they could have a platform from which to speak. the more we talk about it. the president. shows like yours, national shows, the more it is written about the more we are going to start to see a shift in what we call the rape culture. and women feeling as if they have a way to come forward and their voices are going to be heard. >> mark, ariva, thank you very much. breaking news in washington state. a 16-year-old girl hiked her way to safety after the plane crash that killed her step grandparents. the wreckage of the plane has been found. full details coming up. later, inside the tunnel that el chapo used to escape from a maximum security prison. and new surveillance video from

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girl walked away from. her step grandparents sadly did not. autumn veatch is home in washington state tonight after the incredible ordeal in the mountains. released from the hospital just last night. and was just moments ago we learned that the wreckage of the plane has now been located. dan simon joins us. what do you know? authorities confirmed they did find the plane wreckage. this is in a ve steep area. very vertical according to crews. in fact, when they got there they were telling us the plane was still on fire in such a remote area that the crews had to rope in to get to that particular place. we know at this point the ntsb is investigating. it's been turned over to them. as for the 16-year-old. she is at home resting comfortably. still so much amazement as to how she got down the mountain. the whole ordeal surrounding it. we went to the area to take a look for ourselves. how did she do it? survive a fiery plane crash with minor injuries. autumn veatch leaving the

hospital after one day. >> she really had the courage and will to continue on when, you know, she was in a very scary situation. and she is, exhibited an amazing amount of strength. >> reporter: we wanted to see what she was up against. >> the country she is in is incredible. it is super thick. >> this gives you an idea of the element and surroundings that autumn first encountered. the middle of the wilderness surrounded by trees and in very rough terrain. talking about a 16-year-old girl, no professional hiking experience. what is somebody like that supposed to do? most people wouldn't venture out without the proper gear. boots. compass. map. all essentials for a rugged outdoors person. autumn had the clothes on her back. her cell phone was destroyed in the wreckage but even if it worked there is no cell signal for miles.

it is thick, dense, vegetation. and the terrain is extremely steep. some ridges still dotted with snow. one of the first things you notice, a good, 20, 25 degrees cooler at this elevation. it can get pretty cold at night. that's just one of the challenges autumn faced. another challenge was just figuring out where to go. well it turns out that perhaps the smartest decision she made was to follow the water. she follows it downstream. and that's eventually led her to a hiking path and that path led to a highway where she was picked up by those good samaritans. the plane en route from montana to autumn's home state of washington crashed on saturday afternoon. she was with her step-grandparents, leland and sharon bowman. according to authorities she tried to save them. did she tell you how she tried to save them? >> she had reached in trying to grab in and pull them out.

but she said there was so much fire. she couldn't. it burned her hand. she told the sheriff she stayed with the wreckage for a time until realizing the only way to save herself was to somehow go down this treacherous terrain. autumn didn't have any food with her but did have access to plenty of water. the natural kind. she told authorities she did take sips out of a creek like this but was afraid drinking too much would make her sick. she emerged severely dehydrated with moderate burns, cuts, bruises. but otherwise okay. >> if nothing else this girl has a strong, strong will. and you know, her coming out and being able to live, leave the hospital this quickly just goes to show that. >> reporter: the plane that crashed, a 1949 beach a-35. not an airplane for beginners expert say. authorities haven't said how much experience the pilot leland bowman had.

>> as she got into the cloud she knew something was wrong. they came out of the cloud. and she said, all she saw was trees. and grandpa tried to pull the plane up. couldn't. and basically bellied in. hitting the trees. and then went down. and she said, it caught on fire. >> dan, have authorities said anything about recovering the bodies of the victims? >> they haven't. at this point they're saying the investigation is turned over to the ntsb. but they did confirm that they found the two bodies. at this point things seem to be wrapped up. i guess the concern right now is trying to figure out how the plane went down. we know that the plane encountered turbulence just before it crashed. and according to weather radar, there were some thunderstorms in the area just before the plane disappeared from radar but of course it is going to be up to the ntsb to figure out exactly what happened. >> great news they finally found it. >> dan simon. thank you. as the search continues for el chapo, head of the sinoloa drug cartel. we have pictures of his escape. surveillance video from inside

the maximum security prison. shows him ducking into the shower of his prison cell. fully clothed. then he is sitting on his bed. changing his shoes. going back into the shower. that's the last we see of him. authorities say he went into a hole under the shower and escaped through the mile long tunnel. cnn's nick valencia got inside the tunnel. here is what he found. >> reporter: this is the closest we have been allowed to get to el chapo's tunnel. the tunnel he used in his escape saturday night. it is all by accounts a magnificent feat of engineering. let's come of on in and see exactly what, exactly what el chapo here had in store. a small little exit. couple feet wide. couple feet long. you see with the ladder, maybe 10 foot, 15 foot ladder lead down. into that tunnel. the room here is -- nothing to brag about. it is empty. full of cinder blocks. you can see these -- containers full of dirt here. wheelbarrows full of dirt here. we go.

[ speaking foreign language ] any loose -- here is a noth ladder leading down to another part, deeper part, section of the tunnel. it's a ways down. you can see here this is the modified motorcycle that investigators showed us images of before this is on a -- on a track. and roll back and forth. see that. there is buckets left behind. look at this. left behind, oxygen tanks as well in order for them to survive down here. it is a very tight space. i can't even stand up. i am about 5'10", i can't stand up all the way. it is just a remarkable, remarkable feat of engineering. the tunnel stretches for more

than a mile. carved out earth here. and this modified train tracks for that minimotorcycle. you see here, electricity lines. it's very difficult to breathe down here. a lot of dirt. dust. and this here for the ventilation system. tight. tight space down here. but for a man known as el chapo, i'm sure he had more than enough to work, roof to work with. this motorcycle was on a track here. this is the bike that el chapo used to ride out of the prison. it still has gas in it. this left behind perhaps to power the motorcycle. you can still smell the gas. overwhelming of gas in this tight space. it really is suffocating. >> nick valencia joins us now. incredible to see and to actually get down inside the tunnel. and that it went for a mile like that.

the space where the tunnel ended, that you show us. did anybody live there? >> we spoke to multiple farmers in the area. in the months leading up to el chapo's escape. they saw two middle-aged men coming and going, keep to themselves, but they would wave to the local farmers as they drove down the dirt road. up to now mexican officials said that no one was living in the house. when we were there, we saw evidence of it, anderson, including christmas lights hung on the outside, as well as, some dirty dishes on the stove left behind. anderson. >> nick valencia. appreciate it. great. >> coming up, pluto is ready for its close-up. incredible images. scientists learning from images of the dwarf planet. i'll speak with miles o'brien and bill nye the science guy next.

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journeying more than three million miles. joining me, cnn analyst, miles o'brien, and bill nye, the science guy. the pictures are incredibly exciting. you were there for the launch of this thing. the mountain. the large bright spot called the heart. they show ice. what are we learning about pluto from these images? >> we don't know yet. anybody looking at it would say is that it has geographic regions. not just a uniform ice ball. there are five to seven, snow made of nitrogen. nitro-snow. there seems to be a tar, long carbon chain nitro tar. these are things people really didn't expect. >> it will take a long time to analyze these. >> in the press conference. somebody said it looks like a modem. this is look a 57-k modem. 1 k modem. 1,000 bits a second. it is so far out there. the dish, transmitting dish,

barely as wide as you and i are apart. >> is that right? >> it's amazing. people have been talking about the mission. as i said, i was in senator's office in 2000. people really want the mission to pluto. we had 10,000 postcard. from the planetary society members. and so, 15 years later. here we are. >> miles. remarkable this new horizon spacecraft was able to survive the fly by. what was it up against? and it boggles my mind. terrible at math and science. but the fact that they're able to -- you know, get it so close, so perfectly in the right spot. nine, ten years later. nuts to me. >> these are the people who do real well with math. it's an amazing navigational challenge which we succeeded with. what's interesting about this mission. going back to the decision back in 2000, as bill was talking about, how do we design this mission? one of the things they wanted to do was make it kind of lean, mean, fast. that's why we're -- we have a spacecraft that moved

very quickly. fastest spacecraft to leave earth. made it to, the moon. our moon. in nine hours. it took apollo astronauts four days to do it. it made a bee line for pluto. does not have the fuel or rocketry on board. weight saving. cost saving. that would allow it to ender the orbit of pluto. this is such a provocative piece of data. just the first glimpse. i'm sure we're going to want to think about going there again. >> bill, since you were a little kid. you wonder add but pluto. >> sure. >> even now in the course of this mission, the scientists understanding of pluto has changed. thought is was a planet before. >> is it a planet? is it a dwarf planet? i don't want to get into the planet thing. instead i want a new class of objects that i like to call the plutoids. >> what is the plutoid?

>> the arch typical plutoid is pluto. three solar systems. >> told you, i know nothing. >> mercury venus earth mars, rocky have iron, nickel insides. solid things. okay. past that the gas giants. jupiter, saturn, uranus neptune. thousands of these icy worlds that are now not all ice. those are the plutoids. >> be right back. a romantic fumble at this romantic chateau ... leads to these fine humans. who you take to this eco-lodge ... to get seriously close to nature. then you check in with her at this tropical paradise. before soaring over this castle resort with your father-in-law. who finally seems to like you. life can be like that when you get it booking right. booking.com booking.yeah!

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