ac 360 starts right now. good evening. we are waiting on a news conference right now from the governor of tennessee about today's massacre in chatanooga. this is where it is going to happen. we will bring tight you the second it does. the governor is being briefed right now with the very latest. the developments have been coming in one right after another in the shooting rampage which is officially being investigated as an act of terrorism. it took the lives of four marines. tonight, without getting ahead of the story, we'll bring you the latest on all of it. we have just now obtained new

video of the killer a young kuwaiti/jordanian american mohammod youssuf abdulazeez. this is a mixed martial arts competition he took part in. the one with the hair in the camouflage shorts. you'll hear from his high school wrestling coachen a moment. we have just obtained his yearbook photo and the quotation that goes along with it reads, my name causes national security alerts. what does yours do? and here is a more recent photograph mug shot earlier this year after an arrest for dui, however, the lasting images will not be of him, but of his rampage. took him just about 30 minutes driving a rented convertible first to a recruiting center then a naval depot opening fire at both. we know that investigators have been searching the home where he grew up. federal officials are now treating this as a terrorism investigation. and that security is being ramped up at federal facilities around the country. officials are keenly aware of the context of awful this.

tonight is the final night of ramadan, the holy month. isis has been calling on followers to make it a bloody one for the west like attacks in paris or garland, texas. tonight all angles all aspects. everything we know. starting withdrew griffin where the four marines lost their lives and moments so did the gunman. drew what are your sources telling you right now about the shooting? this its where it all ended, john. where the four marines died. the suspect died at the hand of chatanooga police who chased him or followed him here from the first crime scene. when this began, 8 miles that way, it was a shooting at what appeared to be a stripmall. police then gave chase to the suspect in a rented convertible silver mustang. to this naval operations center. whereas we have got exclusive video, you can see the car that the suspect drove actually drove through or partially through the

front fence of this center. this is where the shootout took place. but the sources inside, the investigators are keeping mum about exactly what happened. exactly how this happened. where the marines died and exactly how this suspect was taken down. >> drew i spoke to a witness at the first scene, who said he never got out of the car when he was shooting any word that he got out of the convertible mustang at the naval depot where you are? >> i can only tell you vshable wulvisually it has been opened up. gone through forensically. i see no evidence of what would have been a body there in terms of kind of a forensic scene. we don't know if he got out of the car and ran. if he got out of the car and chased into an area where he found these marines. those are the kind of details we don't have yet, john. >> to be clear. he was shot by law enforcement. earlier in the day, official were reluctant to say at the

hand of police or possible suicide. >> this is what cnn's justice department correspondent broke about an hour ago now. that chattanooga police shot and killed this suspect. we don't have the details exactly how that happened. but that is what evan is reporting. that this was not a suicide. this person was taken down by the police who were chasing him. >> finally, drew on way, we showed the video of him involved in an mma competition, a mixed martial arts. you got your hands on this video. what can you tell us about it? >> i can tell you it was given to us or pointed to us by his mixed martial arts teacher from the high school days. and john as we have seen so many times. he was absolutely stunned, said tears skaem to his eyes. when they announced that this shooter's name was this person's name that he knew that he coached. he called him, though he was, a jordanian -- >> drew i should point out we are looking at video. i just want to point out. keep going.

he is the one in the camouflage pants. the one with hair right now. want to make dlerclear, an all american kid, the coach never would have suspected. >> that's right. a good student. a good wrestler in high school. and a good fighter. with this mixed martial arts training that he did. he was also apparently a good muslim practicing muslim who often at 6:00 at night at the gym, john would lay down his prayer rug in the coach's office and say his prayers. and then come out and continue training. as we have seen in so many cases, where and when it snapped. we don't know yet. at this time everybody is just shaking their head saying this was a nice kid from a nice family. he was as american as anybody else. >> all right, drew griffin. thank you so much for that. appreciate it. >> president obama this afternoon expressed condolences for the fallen marines, four marines shot dead. he is calling the shooting heartbreaking and promised a prompt and thorough investigation. as we mentioned federal

investigators are deep into this already trying to figure out everything they can about the suspect. his possible motives, possible ties to others. evan perez, justice department correspondent, working all his sources, what are you learning now? >> john we know that mohammod youssuf abdulazeez was born in kuwait kuwait. he had a jordanian, jordanian citizenship before he and the rest of his family were naturalized as u.s. citizens in recent years. we know the university of tennessee in chatanooga says that he received an engineering degree there. this is a family that appears, and certainly from the looks of the neighborhood they were middle-class family. they seemed to have had achieve achievement achievement, educational achievement. the father went to texas a & m university. again, apparently from talking to neighbors there, in chatanooga this was a family that seemed quite normal. so that's what now -- is what the fbi is trying to unravel is what what was behind that? when was, when was it that

abdulazeez was going to carry this out. was he inspired or connected to any body in international terrorism. isis was calling for attacks of this kind. in the united states. we haven't yet, the fbi hasn't said whether they found indications that he was action on behalf of isis or any body else. but that is certainly the big question now tonight. >> any soon of a motive. going through social media, blog posts trying to find anything this guy may have written. any sign of motive? any sign of what he has been doing since he graduated with the engineering degree? >> that's the thing. this is one of the cases that certainly makes, people at the fbi scratch their heads. they have their eyes on hundreds of people around the united states who might be consuming isis propaganda and who they suspect or who they fear might

be motivated to carry out attacks just like this. this guy was not on anybody's list not in databases, certainly wasn't one that would have been part of any previous investigation that the fbi had going. this is why you saw james comey, director of the fbi go to the white house today. this is one of those either because he was making efforts to stay off the radar or what the fbi was looking for this guy didn't show up. that's what's disconcerting. you see all right warnings recently john about the types of suspects. >> evan perez, thank you so much. again so much coming in. you may find out something new. let us not what you hear. moments ago we learned police beefed up security around military recruiting offices here in new york. joining us to discuss the situation here and around the country, harry houk cnn analyst, and juliet cayenne, former official for massachusetts, joined by former secret service agent, dan

bongino. juliet we know this is being investigated as an act of terrorism. investigating it thinking it might be an act of terrorism. what does that mean? what do they need to declare that out loud? they say they hadn't spotted the guy before. >> they don't need to determine what it is yet. there is no case right now. at least the one suspect we know of is dead. what they're going to do is -- abdulazeez is the bulls eye, frepd, friends, family, who did he work with, who is at the wrestling gym? then an international piece, cia, nsa and foreign intelligence agencies two. parallel pieces. we don't, we don't need to call it anything. in other word this is just a there normal investigation. behind it we might call it domestic terrorism. right now we want to find out is there any one else? who was he aligned with?

who might have helped him plan this? that's most important. i know people want to call it something. it is clearly terrorism. it's not that important for investigators on the ground who are just putting the pieces together of some horrific act today. >> let's talk about the plan itself. there was some thinking that went into this. he had two military offices, not prominent. not big bases. storefront recruiting center. relatively unknown naval depot. he rented a convertible. knew how to shoot a gun. >> he had to buy the weapon. he had to plan this somehow. happens to be on the last day of ramadan. must have planned this earlier. this is the day i want to make this attack. so basic low that's probably why, you know we had, you know the attack today on ramadan. this guy had to be radicalized somehow. here is a guy who had the american dream going on. he had a degree. he want to school. he has good parents. all of a sudden what was it that

flipped the switch in this guy's brain and we are probably going to find out when we execute the search warrants. going through computers. cell phones. we're going to find out how that happened. or did someone else radicalize him. >> you think there is a trail? >> there is always a trail. >> dan, i want to talk about the security situation, the posture at these locations. the first place this guy hit was a recruiting center military recruiting center. by design they're meant to be inviting and accessible. >> right. listen always the argument liberty, security argument. i default to liberty. and we have to very seriously consider a very significant investment in the federal level. at hardening up the soft targets. isis made no secret of the fact. that they want to target military officials and put it out on facebook. they said they warned our

military officials not to put public information out there because they're being targeted by isis. a recruitment center like this without any armed security in front of it which as you said accurately is inviting to bring people in is an obvious target. i think we are going to have to look at a different security posture and big investment by our government into hardening these targets out. >> you have to think differently. i want to read you his high school yearbook quote a lot of people are talking about right now. it said "my name causes national security alerts. what does yours do?" he is 24 25. 24, 25 right now. this is probably six years old t what does it tell you about his state of mind six years ago. >> either he was joking. don't know high school yearbook. he had friend that laughed with him at that. or obviously had some sense of persecution. but the truth is that at least what we know right now he went through college seemingly unscathed. no evidence yet coming out. this kid was a dropout. not sort of connecting with

people. so, what happened since graduation would be what i am looking at first. this is what people write in high school yearbook, six years ago. you know i wouldn't take as a face value. right now. i am most interested in the last two years. because the here is a guy, the fbi director this is our scariest scenarioen the sense not even on a jttf list. >> that's the scariest part. scary thing, spotted the guy, thought he was super dangerous. the scariest thing hadn't spotted him. had no reason to think there was anything wrong. looking talking yearbook quote. his religion was part of his life. his coach talked about that. but radicalism was not part of his life by outward appearances so far it seems. >> right. seems like that that might be the plan. live your regular life. have no animosity. plan your attack. and attack. when you have people you know around every day don't see any kind of radicalization.

in your every day live. then then they are shocked when something like this happens. >> dan, this did take planning. the guy clearly hit what he was shooting at to an extent. how much planning or training does an attack like this take? harry is accurate. there is always going to bea degree of planning. what keeps me up at night. and a lot of security professionals are the small arms tactical style soft target attacks. small arms meaning not talking rpgs here. talking about either a machine gun or automatic fire weapon or handguns. they don't require a lot of training john. think about the 9/11 attack. talking about learning how to fly a 777, 747 and $500,000 in expenses. every one of the little interactions they made along the way, learning how to fly the plane, having to spend all that money to rent apartments and cars all left investigative bread crumbs when you get a small arms attack like this.

just requires the knowledge to literally pull a trigger. that's all. they didn't have to be marksmen. you are not talking about those investigative bread crumbs leaving a real distinct trail where we can in turn mid gate and arrest and stop the attacks in advance. that's why the soft target attacks with small arms are dangerous. brings about the same amount of terror regardless because of newt social media environment which the terrorists leverage to their benefit. >> juliet you said they don't have to call it anything right now. right now the key is to investigate. let's just talk about this summer. this summer is different. this summer. heightened security posture. this summer over fourth of july. increased concern about a possible terror attack. if this does prove to be someone inspired by isis or another terror group, doesn't this just prove what can be accomplished what evil can be acome polished here and won't that raise the level of concern even more? >> yes, it should. my personal feeling this is clearly terrorism. i guess my point earlier was --

that for an investigator it they need to just look at the facts. right? what are we connecting all of the dots. where do they lead us? you don't want them thinking ideology now for guys and gals on the ground you want them putting the pieces together. en particular was there any foreign contact. looking at it from outside. clearly terrorism. in the sense that if the motivation is as we think it is he went after service members who represent united states defense apparatus. killed them unarmed military. not in a war zone. obviously. and those are the definitions of -- of terrorism. so for me this is clearly a new world orderen some way en somin some ways this was not a guy leaving the bag behind in the boston marathon. i'm taking a gun. walking in. if i get killed in the process, so be it. >> dan, juliet thank you. we are waiting to hear from the

governor. we will bring tight youit to you. when we scum back what could be a significant new development, the woman led out of the killer's family home in handcuffs. what's going on with this. that's just ahead.

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gary is in the neighborhood. gary, seeing the picture for the first time of the woman being led out of the home. what information do you have about what happened there? >> reporter: well john we can tell you when police got to this neighborhood. we must tell you this neighborhood is the kind of place you come to and move to when you are fulfilling the american dream. this is where abdulazeez lived most of his life from early as 7 years old. the street is closed. police blocking it. police are inside the house. investigating making sure there is no booby traps or bomb making material. taking out evidence. when we got there we are told by people in the neighborhood that fbi come out with your hand up. we don't know the relationship of that woman to the gunman the but we do know she was handcuffed and led out. that doesn't mean she was arrested. just means she was handcuffed and led out. all we know at this point. the bomb squad canine units were here. canine units here. bomb squad left. as we said they're still on the scene going through the house. we can tell you abdulazeez graduated from the university of

tennessee chatanooga campus in 2012 with an electrical engineering degree. it does not appear that he had any job. he had various internships after college. does not look like he had a full time job. we also know john in april of this year he was arrested for dwi. he had a hearing scheduled for the dwi charge two weeks from today. >> interesting. the neighborhood itself. you call it the place you move to when you want to fulfill the american dream. what are neighbors saying about the suspect and the family? >> neighbors are absolutely stunned. we have talked to -- a few different people who knew him. who knew his family. we tackedlked to one gentleman who has three children. his three children used to be babysat by the gunman's older sister and younger sister. at times the gunman would come over. he would talk to him thought he was just a there mall guy. take a listen. >> i didn't see anything wrong with him. >> what kind of family does he have? >> they're good people.

i never found any kind of conflict with them. >> it sound like a cliche. but it must be stated. everyone we talked to in this neighborhood totally stunned. can't believe it. this guy, they have seen in the neighborhood since he was 7 years old. 2nd grade could have possibly done something like this. >> gary tuchman, thank you very much. fascinating details. once again. i want to remind you. we're waiting on the government there to come speak to us at any moment. behind the doors right now being briefed by law enforcement with the very latest on the investigation. some new details coming our way soon from the governor. stay with us for that. in the meantime on the phone with us right now, someone who will never forget this day like so many in chatanooga today. leneisha lewis at the first shooting location. leneisha you were in your car on the way to the nail salon part of that stripmall. tell me what you saw? >> as i, well after i parked and pulled up i was getting

ready to get out of my car. and i saw him pulling up just a casual car drive up with their drop top down. and i saw him reaching into his passenger side and lift up a -- a very large black gun and just begin to open fire inside of the recruit office. did you get a good look at him as he was doing this? >> i did. i was two parking spasz inging spaces over from where he was. >> what did he look like? what was the expression on his face? >> he didn't look angry or anything. he was just looking directly. i just could really see the side of his face. just looking directly into the building and just shooting. there wasn't even there wasn't a huge difference in his demeanor. just a regular -- you know

wasn't like he was looking angry or mad or anything. he was sitting in his driver's seat opening fire. >> how long did you watch this happen? how long before you got yourself to safety? >> he fired six shots before i drove off. >> that's just got to be terrifying. something no one should ever have to see. some one attempting to commit mass murder. what was going through your head at the time? >> i just couldn't believe i was seeing what i was seeing. i just i initially saw, i was like "is that guy really shooting? "and i -- you know i was frozen for a moment. and then that's when i drove off after i realized okay, i am in danger let me move. because before i was just watching hip, shootwatch ing him shooting and i was in shock. >> i know the entire city is in shock. how are you doing tonight,

laneesha? >> still calming down. i was much better than i was at the scene. >> we are glad you are safe. >> thankfully we all, everybody, everybody at that location still has their lives and weep just just know it was god protecting us. >> thank you for being with us. we are glad you are okay. >> thank you. >> next so many in the military though tonight mourning the loss of four marines. reeling from this attack that seemed to come out of nowhere. pentagon correspondent barbara starr joins me with the latest from the military's perspective just ahead.

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chatanooga reacted just the way i thought they would with an outpouring of love and support. and the law enforcement officials were saying i don't know we have been anywhere where we have seen a community that rallied so quickly. to to -- to the tragedy that we have had. so with that i will call on mayor burke for anything he would look to add. >> thanks governor. congressman, thank you for being here. our hearts are breaking for the families of these marines tonight. and we also know that there are others who have been injured today that we're thinking about. my e-mail inbox, twitter feed filled with community members who want to do something. that's who chatanoogans. every time i hear a story about what police officers dead toid today.

i am impressed by the heroism that we showed. we want to thank the governor for coming here. he called me very soon after the incident to talk about what happened. tubing to talk to congressman fleischmann. as well. talked to the white house many time tuesday. this is a tragic day for our city. certainly as the governor said. all of our officials have responded in the best way possible. we thank you very much. >> taking a few question if anybody has them the things we can answer. [ indiscernible question ] >> in any situation when there is confusion about how widespread it was, law enforcement took extra precaution. the capitol was never actually locked down. i think security was heightened during that time. >> what about the reaction of homeland security

>> from everything i can understand the congressman said he talked with the secretary earlier today. they have been nothing but supportive and helpful. >> have you spoken with the families? >> we have not. that's that's still -- obviously the department of defense is in charge of that at this point in time. >> what has been the reaction from the white house? >> i'll let andy talk to that. >> i will say, i contacted the white house very soon after the incident. i then got proactively called several times from the white house. they have been very concerned and in touch. matter of fact during my press conference today, i got off and i saw that there were four calls from the private number which, which, was them. and i got another call. and the president has been getting constantly briefed about this. and -- i know that -- they are completely in touch with what is going on in chattanooga.

>> has anybody been arrested? >> i scantcan't comment on that. >> any concerns you have regarding, backlash to -- to islamic groups? or are you concerned about that? >> i think chief might be the most appropriate response to that. >> absolutely. a very good question. i can assure you the chatanooga police department is working with all the local state and federal agencies to ensure that every single resource is put where it is needed. or where people feel like it is needed. we are identifying spots. meeting on an hourly basis to make sure any identified areas that might feel vulnerable are addressed in the appropriate manner. i can assure you all agencies federal, state, local are working together with the common goal of keeping everybody in this community, across this city across this state and across this country safe. >> we are not the investigation. the investigation is in the purview of the department of justice and federal bureau of

investigation. [ indiscernible questions ] >> i need to go find an update soon as i get out of here. need to check on my officers. ind jird the injured people in the community. >> how many other people were injured? >> we had four people that we know that were fatally wounded. and we had several others that were transported to the hospital. and several others treated at the scene and released. >> that's still part of the investigation. as you know a very tricky thing to find out. that those things can be difficult to ascertain. [ indiscernible question ] >> i can tell you that there are no braver or more selfless people than the chatanooga police department. i can tell you officers of the chatanooga police department saved many lives today. i have never been prouder to be a public servant. [ indiscernible question ] >> if you have information, please go through the numbers we have given you for our communications departments. we have a -- a single point of

contact. and a very structured stream to get information to the lead investigators with the chatanooga police department and federal bureau of investigation. thank you. >> you were listening to the governor of tennessee, governor haslam. saying that our hearts are breaking for the families of the marines tonight. obviously the brazen attack not shaking a city chatanooga state of tennessee and the u.s. military. correspondent barbara star joins us with the latest on that. barbara, what has the military response been to this tragic incident? >> well good evening, john. right now we can tell you that the u.s. marine corps continuing to reach out to all of the family members of the fallen. and indeed they are the fallen because this procedure for assisting families is the same procedure as if these marines fell on the battlefields of afghanistan or iraq. they're going to have family liaisons with them.

marines with them to help them through the next many hours and days off everything that they will be going through. in the time ahead. to grieve for their loved ones. you know the marines are a small family. there is only tens of thousand of them. a lot of them know each other. this is being felt deep leap aly across the force. >> it seems as if they were killed today because they were marines. back in may, military bases around the country increased their security protecting measures because of heightened concern about the possibility of terrorist threats. any connection to the heightn't level of security and concern in what happened today? >> well not a direct connect, that anybody is able to tell us about just yet. we have seen across the world, and in many places in the united states the so-called lone wolf attacks inspired by isis or other terrorist groups. if it's been the big fear of u.s. law enforcement and the military had responded to

thisserthis er issue say by raising security levels at military base. more security more i.d. check that sort of thing. here's the problem, john. one of the sites was a recruiting center. one was a basically another local area where military people worked. this is what basically happens across this country in town and cities across america. the military is part of the fabric of american life. recruiting centers in a stripmall, like the one that was so brutally attacked, they are ly relatively open. don't have armed security around the clock. they want to be open. young americans come in. ask about the military. think about a career in military service. again this is one of the problems. if these kind of facilities are under attack how do you actually protect them when they may be in a stripmall next to a grocery store. you know again, the military does not want to wall itself --

itself off from american life. so this is a very difficult problem. >> accessible and inviting many location buys design. barbara starr, thank you so much. >> back with our panel digging deeper into any and all potential terror connections so. many new questions right after a quick break.

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>> we are talking about today's tragedy in tennessee and what may have turned a young man into a mass killer. joining me guests with a unique perspective, former jihadist and counterterrorism operative. the task force taking the lead on this looking at this as an act of terrorism what exactly will they be looking for the next several hours? >> john they will be looking at whether he had a radical profile, whether he was in some way a supporter of isis or of al qaeda, whether he had a radical circle. whether in the past few months he made any overseas travel potentially to the middle east or somewhere like that. they'll be looking at all these

things social media profile. and the context here of course is that isis have called for attacks against the u.s. military by their supporters and they have called for attacks during ramadan. to days the last day of ramadan. ramadan has just ended here on the -- east coast. they will be looking for the possibility that this was an attack bay islamic extremists on the last day of ramadan. we do not know the motive at this point. important to emphasize. >> what about isis communication, isis reaction going out this afternoon and this evening around the world? >> what we have seen on twitter, isis fan boys, celebrating, lots of tweets congratulating this person for launching this attack. though we have seen no formal claim of responsibility yet from isis. and law enforcement authorities have not told us about any kind of communications that may have gone back and forth.

though we have seen in some recent terror plots, isis operatives in syria communicating with americans in the united states. for example, elton simpson attempted to carry out at take on an event in garland, texas two months ago. >> i just heard from someone who had something of an acquaintance of this young man. described to me as a country guy who liked beers and tennessee football. just another guy. in chatanooga tennessee. how do you go from "just another guy" in chatanooga fairly well off, to a mass killer of four marines? >> well this is one of the most common things you hear "he seemed like such a nice guy. i didn't suspect anything." we hear this all the type. no matter what criminal offense. the more horrific it is the more surprised people are. remember underneath that extear year is something else going on. i saw the yearbook posting earlier on the coverage on your program.

you know there are other things happening in his life the we may not know them now. but certainly i think you will see more and more things kept pushing him, or at lest he perceived that. he just decided now is the time for me to act. >> that yearbook quote was effectively "my name causes national security alerts. what does yours do?" in high school, prestumumeablypresumably five six years ago. maybe it was something on his mind way back then. moben, you study this and talk about this now as part of your life. is hard to understand how you can go from someone who apparently is enjoying the fruits of being in america, an american football, beer engineering degree how you can go from some one who benefits from it to some one who might potentially attack it. >> well you are hypocriteical is what it is. you can still be living in the society enjoying all the good things it provide you. but still hate it. you will take take the benefit

of it. or in the case of other places where people take literally benefits like welfare benefits. i mean they're glad to take the money and the opportunity, but, the chances they're given off to streak they will strike they will. >> paul harder or easier to investigate when there is an apparent facade of normalcy out there? >> it obviously makes it a lot harder to investigate by the fbi it does not seem like this individual was on any kind of watch list. it does not seem that he was on the radar screen of u.s. law enforce officials. people can live parallel lives that they don't tell their families about. they don't tell -- their friend about. they can retreat to a different universe. kind of online universe where they're accessing this very radical propaganda from groups like isis. isis are telling them it is your religious duty to carry out attacks against the united states. bah the because the united states is

attacking the so-called caliphate. during ramadan they said ten times more reward in paradise for followers in the united states if they were to carry out attacks. >> we don't know if he was motivated by any one else? how he was motivated by any other factor? paul is it your experience in talking to investigators. there is bound to be some answer to that question and soon. some kind of footprint that will be in their hand over the next several hours? >> absolutely. the entire u.s. intelligence and law enforcement apparatus are going to go at this. i am sure they'll already probably have answers if not now, very soon. about this guy's potential radical trajectory. but we do not yet know. i have to emphasize this again. whether this was an act of islamist terrorism, but tonight, it's starting to feel like that may be the case. >> are you worried there is more of this to come? >> there will be more of these attacks to come certainly.

>> why do you feel that way? >> well, when the spokesperson for isis first made the, you know the call to do that in canada we had our own response. we had an individual run over two soldiers with his car. killing one of them. we know this the attack the police the military in uniform in particular. we are seeing that. and so it is a very clear trajectory. i mean they make the call. some of their zombies rise up and answer the call. so it's not the last one. and, you can be sure that there will be more. >> paul it's interesting, paul because we had heard after the fourth of july holiday a feeling from federal law enforcement they had thwarted possible attacks or at least possible plots. what this shows even if you are having success, at stopping some things perhaps more things will slip through the cracks and it just takes one. >> well absolutely. as long as isis continues to

exist. as long as they continue to hold territory. as long as they're seen by followers as being, the leaders of this this so-called new caliphate. they will continue to have a platform to call for the kind of attacks. people will respond because they will see it as their religious duty. i think this is unfortunately now becoming newt more mall. not only here in the united states but also in europe and france. just on monday they thwarted a terrorist attack against the military facility there, john. >> paul mobin, the details not yet known, the ties not yet complete. but investigations going on tonight whether there is a connection between this man and ape possible foreign terrorist organization or groups. next some late developments from the scene. new inseeing theight from people who knew the suspect. and new information we are getting tonight.

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chatanooga praying with this now dead suspect. he said he was absolutely fine. he says that everything we heard about the kid, great, all-american kid, polite devout muslim certainly not showing signs of radicalism in any way, shape, form. he did mention though that a couple of years ago he thought that -- the suspect went overseas for a time. and says you know if it was anywhere he might have been radicalized it could have been during that trip. certainly, this is again the-- the member of the muslim community here saying he wasn't radicalized here in chattanooga. think it's fair to pin the out.oint out he was a practicing muslim. of until a month ago. practicing in one of the big mosques. >> trip overseas. first we are hearing of that. drew, you spoke to a different

coach of mohammod youssuf abdulazeez. what did he tell you? >> his reaction when we learned the name he learned it on the raidy here. his reaction, tears came to his eyes. this kid was just a great all-american kid. this is scott schraeder, mixed martial arts coach. and we just talked to him about an hour ago >> i mean he seemed like the all-american kid. i mean he never, never loud never boisterous never got out of line hard worker you know seemed to enjoy, you know the training. and you know got along with everybody. >> he is a smart kid. i mean he was in high school at the time. and i, i believe he went on from there to get an engineering degree from utc. university of tennessee-chatanooga. >> he did in fact john. got an electrical engineering degree. he did internsips. we do not have evidence he had

full time job. on the training to snow you what kind of kid he was. train in the gi 6:00 comes around. takes his prayer rug. goes into the coach's office. does his prayers. comes back out. goes right back into the ring. everybody who knew him so far just shocked at what took place over my shoulder today. >> apparently a mass murderer. drew griffin. thank you so much. >> gary tuchman, closer to the home where the killer gre up erer grew up and where a woman was led away in handcuffs a little while ago. gary what's the latest? >> reporter: the house right there. the tannish, beige house on the left. the operation continues. police are inside the home. we can tell you though they would not let us this close if they were still concerned about the possibilitybooby traps or explosives. there was an explea sieve exmroe sif

explosive team here. he moved here when he was 7 years old. >> gary tuchman, the latest details. the recruiting center that came under fire is as we said in a stripmall. plenty of other businesses right next to it. when the gunman opened fire a lot of people feared for their lives. gina mulet works in a restaurant. heard the shots. and sought shoot and saw the shooter. she joins me by phone. gina, we have a couple minutes. tell me what you saw. the driver puflz up in his convertible. next thing you know what? >> he opened fired. he was shooting before i want to the front of the restaurant. i heard gunshots in the kitchen the i've ran to the front. i seen the gun. i seen him holding it out of the car. opening fire on the businesses next store. tons of round. 20 30 shots. it was horrible. >> what kind of gun could you tell how big of a gun it was? >> it was huge.

like a big high-powered rifle. after it was all said and done. police coming out with their big rifles and stuff. it looked like those. a real big rifle. >> now, you never saw him get out of the car. but -- >> he never got out of the car. >> it was a convertible. standing of inside the convertible shooting? >> he was sitting down. he just had his gun over the door of the car. was opening fire. never got out of his car not once. >> my god. to look out your restaurant where you go presumably every day and see a guy leaning out of a convertible shooting what looks like a high powered rifle into the office next door. what was going through your head? >> i was scared. i was in shock the i really couldn't move. i was just wondering was it real? i didn't know what to think to be honest with you. i was literally ten feet away. >> and then it was over after -- what a minute or two of firing. and heap just just gets in the car and drives of. >> two minutes from when i heard the gunshots until he drove all. it was just in an instant it was

gone. >> how long before law enforcement or first responders were on the scene? >> they actually got to the scene pretty quick. after the call was placed. as soon as the guy drove off. couple minutes later they were pulling up. >> you stayed and worked in the restaurant for the rest of the day? >> i stayed and worked. for like the next hour until they blocked off the area. we had a couple customers coming in. then when they blocked off the area nobody was able to come up to the restaurant. or you know so we just stayed there. we had, we couldn't leave. had to talk to fbi officers and stuff look that before we were able to go. but we eventually shut it down. and got out of there. >> gina 10 second. how are you doing, what's your mood and your mood at the time? >> i am okay. pray for the families. what i didn't want americans to do is go out there and attack all muslims. i work with them a lot. a lot of good friend. they're good people. these radical one whose we need to go after. i don't want everybody to have this stairy type inereotype to think

all muslims are bad. they're not. >> gina mule. thank you. that's all for "ac 360" get all the latest on the tragedy in tennessee with don lemon. 10:00 p.m. new details coming in every second. see you at 11:00. the cnn original series "the seventies" starts now. >> i must say to you that the state of the union is not good. >> well these people somehow, turn politics into power and make the government work. >> we are privileged to witness a significant achieve. in the cause of peace. >> what was once a distant foreign policy issue has become a domestic issue. >> there is no malaise in the spirit of this country. >> we can turn this country around and we can turn our economy around and the time to do it is now.