iranian air space on the first leg of the journey home and that every one of the 52 hostages was alive; was well; and free. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> breaking news tonight, deadly attacks on america's military here on the home front. the fch.b.i. is searching for a terror connection. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. authorities say this shooter, this muhammad usef is also dead. here's what we also know about him. abdulazeez. he graduated from the university

of tennessee in 2012 with a degree in electrical engineering. law enforcement officials say it is too soon to know the motive for the fatal rampage. cnn reporters are live in tennessee for us. gary tuckman is in the suspect's neighborhood in nixon, tennessee. evan perez is live for us in washington this evening. drew, you just spoke to one of the alleged shooter's coaches. what did he tell you? >> he told me what many have told us all this afternoon, that this person, this muhammad abdulazeez was an all-american kid. he basically grew up in the united states, he went to high school here, he was a wrestler, he was a mixed martial arts athlete. and it was during that time that this fella met him and during a mosque here with him, up untim

just a month ago, very nice guy. but i want you to listen to what he told us about a recent trip in the last couple of years to the middle east that he believes that this suspected, this now dead suspected, took. take a listen. >> his demeanor that he was actually nothing that would show me he was upset about something, you know. and i know that he moved out of the country about a year or two ago. he went back home and stay overseas. and i asked his dad, where's muhammad. i haven't seem him for a while. he said he moved back home. i saw him a couple of times when he visited. i'm not one to speculate. but what happens overseas in certain different environments, i don't know. >> where was he overseas? >> you would have to ask his family about that. >> you say he went overseas for two year sns. >> i think a year or two ago when he went back. >> went back where? >> jordan, yemen, i'm not sure. >> you're sure he was in the middle east? >> that's what i was told.

that's what i went by. >> did you ever talk to him about the middle east? >> i asked him how is everything doing? he said he's with kids and wrestling. i said how are you doing? is everything okay? he said i'm doing well. i'm doing good. >> this is a developing story. this is the first we've heard. there may have been recent travel, recent in the last few years, don, to the middle east. we're also hearing tonight from sources that legislators have been briefed on the shootout that took place behind me. and i think perhaps tomorrow or in the cometing days, we're going to hear about the harrowing, harrowing shootout that the police had here. aparentall aparent apparently, this suspect was carrying 30 round clips and holds police at bay with the ammunition he had. that is what aparentally the f.b.i. is briefing some of the politicians in tennessee about

what happened just over my shoulder earlier today. >> let's talk more about what happened just over your shoulder. you are at the second crime scene. and in the video you shot, we can see the green fence in front of the alleged shooters car. can you talk to us more about that? >> i can tell you that this is the second scene. and it was a little confusing today. the first scene that many people have seen is the front window of that recruiting shootout. after that shooting, the police chased or this suspect drove those eight miles to this naval operations center. you have to actually go down not this big road, but a little inlet road and down a driveway about 400 yards before you reach a fence in his rented mustang, convertible mustang. the suspected rammed that fence. that's what you're seeing. he has pushed his rented vehicle right through the front gates of that fa sellty. and it's behind there where the

four marines died and where this suspect was eventually gunned down and killed by police. the forensic investigation is still going on well into the night. you can't see it right now, but just about an hour and a half ago, there were still dozens and dozens of federal agents combing the scenes, looking for anything they could find. even flew a drone over the scene taking pictures, very high res pictures to see what's going on. >> i want to get to gary tuckman now in the suspect's neighborhood of hixon, tennessee. i understand you were close to his house. what's the latest going on? >> well, don, forensic investigation here, too. this upscale, suburban neighborhood is the neighborhood where this gunman spent most of his life. right now, we have the f.b.i. and other authorities searching across the house.

they've been here for hours. they say they will be here for hours more. k-9 units are inside. the bomb squad was here, they were concerned there could be explosives in there or boobie traps in there. but the bomb squad has left so they're obviously not that concerned. it's not clear if the gunman lived there currently. the neighbors are telling us the family moved in here when he was 7 years old, approximately. he was in first or second grade when he lived here. he was a graduate 2012 of the chatanooga campus of the university of tennessee where he majored in electrical engineering. a couple of months ago, the gun man was arrested and charged with d.w.i. he was scheduled to go to a hearing on the charge against him two weeks from today. >> was he employed? >> it doesn't appear he was. we do know, based on his resume, that he had a couple of

internships after he got out of college. but it's not clear if he had any full time job. neighbors were talking here, don, who've known him for many years say he's a really nice kid. we're talking to one neighbor who has two daughters who his two sisters, the gun man's two sisters babysat. they said muhammad would come to their house. he was totally stunned when he heard this was the person involved in this horrible incident. it sounds like a cliche. everyone we talk to who knows the family and knows the gunman say they just can't believe it. >> gary tuckman, close to the suspect's home, thank you very much for that security being beefed up at sites across the country tonight, including right here in new york city in times square. the f.b.i. now considering this a terror investigation. what more are your sources telling you about the shooter? >> that's right, don.

they're skconsidering this a terrorism investigation. here's what we know. he was born in cue wait. he had jordanian citizen ship as well as he became an american citizen along with his family members some years ago. we're told by officials that now they're pouring through his background because he did not show up in any of the f.b.i. data bases that they use to track possible terrorism suspects. but they're also doing is looking through the files of the joint terrorism task force to see if perhaps in any one of those investigations going on around the country, whether his name turned up. and certainly by tomorrow morning, before investigators brief the president, they want to be able to ask the question if there was any sign that he had turned up in any other investigation by the. f.b.i. one tantalizing piece of information is investigators

have been looking at a couple of blog and in the blog post, he discusses his views on religion. and it discusses how someone who believes in muhammad, the world, the world we live in, is a prison. and for the unbeliever, it's a bar e paradise. so these are some of the thoughts that the writer seems to be illuminating on. it tracks from fundamentalist views of islam. so this is something that i know investigators are now looking at. they haven't verified that it is the shooter's blog. but it is something that they're starting to make sure. and, along with what we've also reported at the top of the hour here, it's possible travels to the middle east.

that is something that is testi definitely a focus of the investigation. is there something that happened on those trips that influenced what happened today. >> evan perez, thank you very much. appreciate that. representing the district, we appreciate you joining us this evening. as we understand, you just got out of a briefing with homeland security. what can you tell us? >> well, yes, thank you for having me tonight. we did have a briefing with the governor. they told us first of all, that we're lucky to have such a great police department and sheriff's department here in hamilton county. that our police force reacted quickly and vigorously. and bravely. they were under a lot of fire from an automatic weapon with a man who had a carload of ammunition and some 30 round clips. so they did a great job and we're lucky to have them.

>> and tell me more -- there was a gun battle, as you were saying, under heavy fair and with clips with 30 round clips. do you know anymore about the gun battle? did they discuss that in this briefing? >> well, they discussed it just to say that he was well armed. they weren't expecting it, but they pursued it across town from the first place that he had started at the other recruiting station. and then he came to this area right across the street. and they pursued him here and tracked him there. and he pinned them down for a short peer idea of time. and they reacted very well and very aggressively. and, basically, protected the people who were in the area and took out the suspect. >> since you just got out of that briefing, it has been our understanding here all day that this young man was not on the radar of authorities. in that area at all. is that still the same

information? >> that's the information i received. he lived in a neighborhood, actually, about a mile from where i live. his family has been here for almost 20 years. i think they were originally part of the community, worked from the community and had been very active here. this is a very diverse and thriving community. we're just shocked and disappointed that this could happen here. >> was there any discussion about why this particular recruiting facility, why this military installation? >> no. i don't think they know at this point why he picked this one out. knowing where he lives, this is the two closest facilities to his home. so that may have had something to do with it.

i suspect that would be the reasoning behind it from his stand poimpbt. but that's conjecture on my part. >> what do you tell people there in your district and people watching around the world tonight? >> well, that chatanooga is a good place full of great people. this is a tragic event, one that will live forever in our lives. we'll move on and try to understand it and do better in the future. it's a great place with great people. we're praying for the victims and the victims' family and we're going to move forward. >> we've got much more to come on this breaking news tonight. security beefed up all across the country. in response to the deadly attack in tennessee, the f.b.i. looking

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mr. schraeder, thank you so much. >> you're welcome. >> what can you tell me about abdulazeez? >> he was, i guess it's the typical story. he was a quiet kid, you know, very respectful, nice, came in, worked hard. the last person you think would do something like this. >> we're showing pictures of the alleged shooter. they're up on the screen. i want viewers to see this video. this is video of the alleged shooter and he is in grey, camouflaged shots here. and he has hair. when did you train him? was it around this time? >> it was when he was 17 years old. he had come in and had, you know, come in with someone else and had just started training. he was a high school wrestler, so he had a little bit of background. had some natural talent.

but, other than that, nothing really out of the ordinary about him. >> so that brought him in? what brought him in? he was a wrestle in high school? >> yeah, that's kind of the natural progression from being a wrestler to a mixed martial artist. >> how did he do? >> he did pretty well. he went to the north american association meet in atlanta, took silver and i don't remember how he did in that fight that you're showing. we did find out that after it was over, his father was very upset with him that he actually competed. i had asked him if his parents were coming to watch and he said no, they were out of the country. turns out they were in town and waiting for him when he got out of the ring. his father was rather upset.

and he explained to me that he was in islam and was forbidden to strike anyone in the face. so his father was pretty upset. >> did you see the interaction between he and his parents that evening? >> yeah, obviously his father was very, very upset. >> and there was -- were you there? and what happened? >>. >> did he discuss, because you said you just don't strike anyone in the face in his father's brief. did he discuss religious believes at all? no, honestly, the only thing he asked me about was if he could use our office to pray. and of course we told him that

was fine. he would to in and pray and when he was done, he'd come back and join training again. i think it's odd for someone that would be a radical islamist, one of the people that he most often trained with was actually a russian jew who actually immigrated maybe a year later to israel. those guys trained together constantly. >> how long ago? >> that was about five years. >> so when was the last time you saw him? >> about five years ago. >> so, in that time, you don't know what happened. so were you in contact with him at all? >> no, i had no contact with him after that. >> so then your reaction today was one of shock, i'm sure. >> absolute shock. yes. >> what do you want people to know about him or the situation?

>> what i want people to know is don't focus on him. there's four dead marines and a wounded sailor and a wounded police officer. whatever good he might have been earlier in his life, that's gone now. let's focus on the marines and their families. find a hole and bury anything he had to do with. >> scott schraeder, former mma coach, thank you. >> thank you. >> now i want to bring in caitlin wagner. she joins me now by phone. kagan, i appreciate you joining me. when you heard the news today, what was your reaction? >> my initial reaction was one of shock and disbelief.

i don't know, at first, i didn't really want to believe it, especially with the report that he was 41, he was 24. but once it was cleared up that he was 24, i definitely knew it was muhammad. >> so you went to high school with him. what was he like? >> we went together and he was kind. he was funny. he always had a witty comment. he liked to laugh. he was really smart, even though he was kind of like a jokester, he didn't let it affect his grades at all. i distinctly remember in the sixth grade, we had class together and he was one of the highest grades in the class. he was a good guy. you wouldn't think that he would

do spg like this. >> so nothing like this. >> no. >> so i want to ask you then, i want to put up a picture from the high school yearbook. there's a quote in there that says my name causes national security alerts. what does yours do? do you recall that? >> yeah, i remember that for his senior quote. it's ironic now, morbidly so. but at the time, we didn't think anything of it. we just thought it was a joke. >> did he ever talk about anything like that bothering his name might have caused a national security alert? >> no, nothing like that.

in fact, people have asked me today was he a bully, was he ever picked on because of his name or anything like that. and the truth is, no. he was well-liked. he was popular. he always had friends around him. he was never bullied or the center of attention because of his name or any other factor or anything. he had it pretty easy. >> so kagan, what do you think happened? >> you know, i don't really know. after high school, you know, we didn't hear a whole lot about him anymore. he went to college and he got a degree there. that's pretty much the last a lot of us had heard about him. it never happened with muhammad.

it just didn't happen. so i don't know what happened. >> did you know his family? any siblings? >> eye, he had some sisters. i wasn't really close to them. but i had seen them before. they always seemed like the typical southern chattanooga family. they were well-involved, you know, with each other. they cared about each other. i know he was close to his sisters. nothing else really stood out about him. >> have you spoken to any others who knew him? what are they saying? >> all the same thing. it's just a wave of disbelief i can't believe that this person who a lot of us grew up with would do something like this. most of it is just absolute confusion.

>> do you know if his family is still around? >> i have no idea. i checked his facebook page today and it was silent. it was quiet. so as far as i know, they all still live in chattanooga. i don't know what's going on with them today, but i imagine it's very difficult and, you know, my prayers go with them, as well as the families of some of those who have been hurt and have been killed. >> kagan, thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> we're going to be right back with more on our breaking news. a deadly rampage in tennessee that killed four marines and left one female sailor seriously wounded.

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f.b.i. ajebt. there is an f.b.i. press conference that is going to happen at the top of the hour. so you guys may be sticking around to help us debrief after we have that f.b.i. press conference. if you have time in your schedule. the question everyone is asking if this is some sort of terror attack committed here on u.s. soil. >> i think we don't know the exact answer yes. i think all we can do is look at the evidence that suggests, yes, at this stage. a guy, as we said, has become radical aized in the last two years. who had otherwise normal, sort of not surprising life that he plans and conducts. we don't need to call it anything right now, actually.

in terms of the investigation, we should see where all the evidence leads. and as we know, it is being investigated as an act of terror. so, phil, one of the wrestling coaches we spoke to today said he was in jor tan or yemen. can you elaborate on that? >> sure, i think you should look at one simple thing in this case. that is people. typically, in these situations, we talk about what image somebody is seeing for example. transmitted by isis. my experience in this case is there's a simple fact that you've got to understand. the speed with which somebody

goes from a normal high school or college koid to murdering people, that speed is ax accelerated by somebody who persuades somebody like this within an emotional persuasion that the murder of innocents is acceptable. we are going to discover, i predict, that someone was helping this person down a path of radicalization. he may have committed the act alone, he did not commit the act of radicalization alone. are you convinced that this is religiously motivated? >> i'm convinced this was beyond a reasonable doubt a reasonable doubt standard based already on what we know. just based upon the actions that took police station earlier today, i was on cnn just a few days ago, talking about an arrest of individual who was a lone wolf who had radicalized in

massachusetts. we're asking a lot of law enforcement this country to be right every time. i think it's time for all of us to be very clear on the fact that if our defense against this is going to be hoping that the f.b.i. is able to be stopped, as phil said before, this individual seems to have had some decent offset. he wasn't very loud about his intentions to do this. this is now showing us that it's impossible to expect. >> do you agree that it is, indeed, terror and it is a jihadist attack sf. >> absolutely.

this is certainly another wake up call where we have to be concerned about those individuals who go about their everyday lives and blend in and then get ahold of an assault weapon and can really reign tremendous havoc. this is a perfect example of why local and state and federal law enforcement must work seemlessly to share information and really try to crack down on these individuals that spend their times behind a computer on social media. the world is a very, very small place right now.

so that perhaps, and i will tell you that there's no doubt that there are individuals out there, whether it's his family or friends or associates, who had some sense that this individual was going off in a different, you know, pattern. and i'm sure in hindsighted being 20/20, now you're going to find out that someone just decided that they weren't going to speak up and say something. >> all right. i see you guys nodding your heads. we're going to take a quick break and come back and speak with you. i want everyone to stay with me. we've got a lot more to talk about this breaking news. a deadly rampage in tennessee that left four marines dead. and we're waiting for that news con fwrens wifrens with the

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the hour. we expect to get it from the f.b.i. at the top of the hour. and we'll bring that to you right here on cnn so you won't miss it. so where did we leave off? how do we know that this was, in fact, because you hear the other panelists saying i know it was jihad. i know it had to do with its terror. how do we know that this is a lone wolf attack or if some others were involved. >> the primary goal of any law enforcement on the ground had to be let's make sure that he doesn't have any friends or wasn't talking with other people in other states or cities. so we have no idea at this stage. some say oh, he's acting lone wolf. that's simply someone who's not part of the organized terror

organization and someone who is radicalized and is actually sort of deciding at what stage they're going to deploy a terrorist attack. in other words, it's not sort of an overseer. so this person could have been communication with people in the u.s. or outside of the united states. but his decision to move forward at that moment may have very well been ooirt because it was related to ramadan or felt like doing it today. those are the pieces that are going to fit together. i'm not convinced that he was alone, but i don't think we know enough details at this stage about who he may have been connected with. >> i'm at 11:00 p.m. eastern time. i'm wondering why the fchlt b.i. and the t.b.i. and senator bob corker holding at 11:00 p.m. eastern time briefing. why such a late -- what might we hear here? >> there's a couple things you're going to do immediately.

you're going to access all the social media, his e-mail. you're going to be talking to friends and family immediately. the first question you're going to ask is did he operate independently. i'm sure the bureau will talk about this shortly. they've got to talk about whether there's a further conspiracy. i think the answer almost certainly is going to be no. so they're going to try to assure people that the initial message is he operated alone. the second is why he did what he did. was this terrorism? was the motivation political. i think as a former practitioner, the answer is easy yes. clearly identifiable as military. he was saying things on blogs that look like they're affiliated with him that were political. i think they'll answer those questions initially of conspiracy, secondarily of motivation chlts i think they're going to want to tell people our initial indications are that he acted alone. >> i want to ask. copy cats. what's the concern here? >> let's keep in mind there was

an attack in 2009. this is a copy cat attack. this is part of an isis strategy, don, for people to radicalize on their own and to attack in the west and europe and in the u.s. they don't need anyone to tell them from above that this is what they have to do. military and pliolice targets b the way have been on the top of isis's list now and are going to answer that call to jihad on their own. >> they're beefing up security in times square and all across the country. >> no question about it. but, again, as i said during the july 4th weekend, it could happen anywhere within the united states. >> all right, everyone. standby. coming up, a rampage that left four marines dead and a female soldier seriously injured. we're going to dig deeper into the shooter's background. and we're waiting for that news conference from the department of justice, the fchlt b.i. and the tennessee bureau of

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the f.b.i. leading the investigation. they say they're looking at every possible motive from terrorism to a simple criminal act. joining me now, co-author of agent storm. also with us is movingshake. he is the author of undercover jihadi. paul, you first. we still don't really know a motive here. a lot of people are guessing a motive here. but we don't know for sure. but today was the last day of ramadan. what's the potential significance of that to today's deadly rampage. >> the potential significance is isis called for a surge of terrorism during ramadan. ten times more rewards in the afterlife if they carried out an attack during the ramadan period. so, clearly, there may be some

significance with the timing here. in the very last stretch, the rewards for this kind of operation can go up exponentially. >> so the fact that it was a military target, what's the c significance of that? >> well, again, isis had been calling for attacks on military targets in the united states. we've seen a string of isis-inspired plots over the last few months in the united states which the f.b.i. had thwarted against military facilities. in france, just on monday, they called it a terrorist plot to target military facilities. isis are singling out western militaries for attacks. they're calling for these lone wolf attacks against those targets. >> so cnn has spoken to some of his neighbors. also spoke to a coach. one of the neighbors is a high school friend. by all acounts, it seems like he was a pleasant guy. he was quiet. said he was very smart.

also devout muslim. if he was radicalized, take us through the process. how does that happen? >> yeah, first of all, devout muslims don't shoot places up. that's important to note. i think you'll see that he became frustrated in his life. when he talks about the blog post, he quotes a well-known tradition where he says [ speaking foreign language ] >> the world is a prison for the believer and a paradise for the disbeliever. this is usually use when people feel frustrated. locked in. i think you'll start to see he'll have problems at work. he won't feel like it was doing it for him. so this is, again, consistent with what isis has called on. he could have attacked civilians. he didn't. it's important to look at why he selected that tar get. >> we've been speaking to neighbors.

drew griffin has been reporting that he went -- that this guy went to the middle east just a couple of years ago. he came back to tennessee. does that raise a red flag for you? >> you know, it's hard to say. people go back all of the time. you never really know. i mean, it could have been for maybe he was looking to get married. maybe he fell into, you know, people that he was related to that may be extreme. it's really hard to say just on the basis of one trip. >> you know, we have some new video, paul. and i showed it to you. this is him in an mma fight. he's the one with hair. he's wearing the grey, camouflage shorts. the older son was also into mma. is there any sort of connection? any csignificance to that? >> i don't think there's any connection to mma and people becoming radicalized. i think this sort of shows that he was part of mainstream society. friends of his talk about how he

fit in, how he was popular within this cycle. apparently, he was talking with somebody who was jewish for quite a few years. so clearly, it would appear that his views would have changed. that he became radicalized. there was some personal grievances, it would seem, in america. what you're left with is the idea that he may have been religiously brainwashed. that he would have come to believe that it was his religious duty by doing this. and that he would get rewards in the after life, big rewards in the after life. not just for him, but also the jihadi's preach for your whole family. that has been an extraordinary powerful motivation for almost all of the lone wolf style attacks in the west. of course, we don't note yet for sure the motivation in this one. >> and it's tough. this next question may seem odd. a lot of people are sporting

lately. it's the trendy thing to do. but is that significant? >> either one of you can answer that. >> i'm going to say by itself, it's not significant. but when you add it with other ag ra vating factors, some kind of grievance or some kind of commitment to ideology, then it becomes a problem. >> paul, thank you very much. i want you guys to standby because we're waiting a news conference with the f.b.i. in chattanooga. it's scheduled to happen in just a few minutes. if you can't stand the heat, get off the test track. get the mercedes-benz you've been burning for at the summer event, going on now at your authorized mercedes-benz dealer.

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back with breaking news. we need to tell you we're just moments away from a news conference here on cnn from the f.b.i. and from the department of justice. senator bob corker expected to hold a press conference. it is on this deadly shooting that took place in chattanooga today at two different sites. the gunman here, a 24-year-old u.s. national from jordan. also, we're getting some in reporting on him. two different sites in chattanooga. first, into glass doors and a military recruiting senate.

and then he went to a naval reserve center. four victims in this again. there are four ma reaps and then a female sailor who is in very serious condition. a press conference will happen shortly from then. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> it is 11:00 p.m. here on the east coast. our breaking news is four marines are dead and a sailor seriously wounded in two separate attacks. authorities say the shooter is 24-year-old muhammad usef abdul abdulazeez. authorities say it is too soon to know the motive, but they're looking at everything from terrorism to a simple criminal act.