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your dvr to record "outfront." you can watch us any time. please watch saturday and sunday only on cnn international. our breaking news coverage of that incredible california wildfire in san bernardino continues right now with "ac360." which begins right now. >> all right, good evening, john berman in for anderson tonight. we have a very busy night ahead, breaking right now, live pictures of a huge wildfire in southern california. what we're looking at right now, vehicles are burning. that is a tractor-trailer on fire. that is completely obscuring a car carrier beside it. it is near cajon pass, what happened was the flames jumped the interstate and set anything and everything ablaze. so many cars maybe at least 50
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or 60 just trapped there on the highway. a good number of them on fire several of them continuing to burn. you're watching live pictures right now of the fight from the sky and the ground. this is a plane -- dc-10 that has been called in to help fight this blaze, dropping the fire retardant, an air tanker and helicopters also on scene. we saw firefighters for the first time recently on the ground right now. again, the issue, so many of these cars trapped on the freeway with their gas tanks full. so there is urgency to get this fire out at least on the freeway as soon as possible. look at the chopper right there, the choppers are dropping water all day on the right-hand side of your screen. the dc-10 which will shortly drop fire retardant on that area right now and hopefully showdown some of the blaze. while we're waiting for that to happen i'm joined by driver ryan mccachran.
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he is in the fire area, on the freeway, essentially forced to flee. what can you tell us, ryan? >> well i was on my way, traffic was backed up which is not an unusual experience for us. apparently there is a lot of construction going on on highway 15. but about half a mile away on cajon pass i noticed the traffic had been stopped by the california highway patrol. you could see the flames moving from the west side of the i-15 freeway, and basically we just watched it as it literally jumped over the freeway and started the fire on the other side. and it just got worse from there. it started burning a lot of brush. at some point beyond that i have to imagine that the fire department instructed folks in their vehicles that were closest
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to where they had stopped traffic to get out of their vehicles and head back up northbound on the southbound lanes. because all of a sudden we had a huge number of people just walking towards us. at which point everybody on the freeway just started turning their vehicles around. basically, go northbound on the southbound lane. so it was -- really quite crazy at the time. >> were you able to turn around or did you have to get out and walk? >> no i was probably about a mile and a half up from where the traffic had stopped. and most people you know from probably about a mile up if not even further down were able to turn their vehicles around. everyone kind of worked with everybody else. everyone turned their vehicles around including semi trucks with trailers on them. turned their vehicles around made our way back up probably a mile or so to an emergency
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access road that goes between the northbound and the southbound lanes. the san bernardino county sheriff's department had us go on that emergency access road, which took us basically down to the northbound lanes and then we were able to get back on the i-15 northbound -- >> and ryan we're looking at pictures right now. we have been told about an hour ago there were 500 acres burning. it has to be way more than that. at this point we continue to look at footage of this road. dozens of cars there still burning. we have seen video of firefighters fighting these blazes from the air and also on the ground. you know you sound like you're from the area fires are a common thing out there. what is not common i don't know that i have ever seen anything like this where fires jumped a freeway and set cars on fire. have you ever seen anything like that? >> well yeah out here we have seen fires jump freeways. because of the wind it just
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happens quite a bit. but normally -- you know and in most cases the traffic has been stopped before it gets to that point. i think that that is what they attempted to do today but the wind just shifted and pushed the fire right into the vehicles that had been stopped. so as much as they were trying to prevent that from happening with the winds and the way they shifted and of course we get a lot of wind here in the high desert and the cajon pass and the wind just shifted and that is why you see the line of people -- >> normally they stop this far before the juncture where it would jump the freeway and set the cars on fire. that is what i mean. it is just unusual to see cars caught out there with no warning. all right, ryan we're glad you were able the get out away from the blaze, because again, we're
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looking at the huge effort to put them out before something worse happens. so many of these cars no doubt have full gas tanks. ryan thank you so much. and in what happens to be one of the understatements of the night, they advise them to avoid that area. we'll keep our eyes on this and give you live updates as they come in. but there is other new developments tonight. the new information on the shootout with the gunman in chattanooga. showing how intense the fighting really was. all right, they captured the sounds of the fire where gunman mohammad youssuf abdulazeez murdered four marines before the chattanooga police shot him dead. tonight, we're learning much more about how heavily armed he was. and some of the factors that shaped his life recently and may have factored into this rampage.
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also we're sadly learning much more about the four marines who lost lives, whose lives he took the men he murdered. we'll tell you everything about them we learned shortly. gary tuchman reports with more information on the gunman. and he joins us gary? >> reporter: john tonight we have learned that mohammad youssuf abdulazeez was fired from his job at a nuclear power plant in 2013. the nuclear facility he worked at was called the first energy power plant in ohio east of cleveland in northeastern ohio. he worked there a total of ten days. the plant spokesperson said he was let go because he did not meet the minimum requirements to keep his job. they say he was never in a secure area of that nuclear power plant. and they also say they are in touch with government authorities discussing this former employee. meanwhile, you can see behind me there are many people here at a makeshift memorial honoring the four marines who were so brutally killed.
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we have learned quite a bit more about that awful morning yesterday. a senior defense official tells cnn several marines inside the chattanooga recruiting center the gunman's first stop were marine combat veterans who went into combat mode when mohammad youssuf abdulazeez started shooting at about 10:45 a.m. >> he lifted up his arms like this with a big black gun. and then it was just one shot and then endless shots one after another, just unloading. >> reporter: the marines told everybody to drop to the floor and then cleared the area and got everybody out back. everybody survived. but abdulazeez had at least two guns including one ak-47 style gun and a handgun was not done. it is believed abdulazeez never got out of his vehicle. after firing a barrage of shots at this locate he made a right turn out of the parking lot
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heading seven and a half miles at the second location. we've now arrived at the second location driving a normal speed. it took us about 13 minutes. >> reporter: within that short span of time something very traumatic happened. >> officers began to search and located the gunman driving down the highway. chattanooga police officers immediately began following and chasing that vehicle between the first and second locations. >> reporter: this is the second location which remains closed off. the gunman made a right turn into this entrance and continued driving down the road to the military support and reserve center. the police still in pursuit. >> eventually officers encountered the suspect at the second location. >> reporter: but the gunman was a moving target firing dozens of shots and killing four marines before he could be neutralized. >> our officers drove down there and encountered him and engaged in a battle with him. abdulazeez was shot to death. officials believe he was killed
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by a chattanooga police officer. >> i am absolutely convinced that if it were not for the bravery of the police officers and the chattanooga police department, it would have been worse. >> reporter: the gunman grew up in the area the k-9 inside the home. this picture showing a woman taken away in handcuffs, not arrested but as a precaution. karen jones lives right next door. she has known the family ever since they moved in about 14 years ago. >> when was the last time you saw mohammad? >> probably this weekend. >> the gunman? >> yes. >> reporter: the neighbor said this weekend a visit was routine. >> except for the beard, he didn't usually wear that. guys like to grow beards once in a while. and he is of age. >> reporter: gary we know authorities are looking very closely at the gunman's overseas travel including possibly a
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long long trip to jordan this last year. did that neighbor you spoke to know anything about his trips overseas his trip to the middle east? >> reporter: well, karen did tell us, john, about three years ago mohammad his parents and family went there. and i said how do you know that? she said they were my neighbors and said they were going to visit family. is that relevant? we don't know but we can be sure that authorities will investigate that trip. >> gary tuchman, thank you so much. until today the picture we had of the killer's upbringing seems straight out of ozzie and harriet. today we learned that it was not that simple. there were stresses and strains of domestic violence which in and of itself are not that unusual, but it is getting scrutiny as authorities want to look at factors and other
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individuals who could factor into the individual's travel into mass murder. let's talk to cnn correspondent drew griffin. >> reporter: mohammad youssuf abdulazeez grew up in this middle class neighborhood in chattanooga. he had four sisters he was the only one his parents are palestinians from jordan who moved to the u.s. and became american citizens. but there was turmoil inside the family home. in 2009 mohammad's mother filed for divorce, claiming in court documents her husband abused her and the children and even threatened to take a second wife in their quote, native state of palestine. the suit was dropped. and the husband signed an agreement not to inflict any personal harm or insult or injury on the wife or the children. abdulazeez graduated with a degree in 2012. according to a resume he posted
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on line he worked at several internships. it was during this time he traveled to the middle east. authorities confirmed he had an extended visit in 2014. and one friend he came back a changed man. he distanced himself. and although they had known each other since they were 5 years old, he said he never became close to me like he had before. the government authorities are looking into his possible connection with anybody else. but so far, they have not found sources that confirm he was involved with anybody else. in the past two months he took a new job and moved to the nashville area. his most recent photo, taken in a mug shot when he was arrested for dwi. >> i said how are you doing, i haven't seen you in a while, i haven't seen you in a while.
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smiling, talking, another guy said he saw him just a day ago in a local store. he said absolutely nothing, shaking hands saying how are you doing, everything is fine. >> reporter: friends confirmed to cnn that abdulazeez returned to chattanooga this weekend to see his family prayed with them during ramadan. one friend said he was at this mosque just this weekend. and today, on one of the most festive days of the year the sign says that they are closed due to the honor of the victims. and there was a rifle said to be found in the gunman's home. did any of the friends know about any of these guns? >> reporter: they knew all about guns with mohammad youssuf abdulazeez because he had grown up with guns. the friends had often gone target shooting practice together. there was nothing unusual about it. no anger involved.
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the friends say this is just part of life in chattanooga, tennessee, so they didn't see anything wrong with the guns. but they did tell me he knew how to use them. he knew, and he was able to shoot. so there would not have been any extensive recent training that might have triggered an alarm. this guy knew how to use guns because he grew up with them. >> the fbi also said that some of the people believed that it was at least one purchase. just ahead, two experts and what investigators still want to learn about the killer. also we will honor the four marines who gave so much to our country before the chattanooga gunman took their lives. and i will speak to one marine's father. we're also going to get a live report on the wildfires which continue to burn in california. looking at live pictures right now as firefighters continue to try to put out these blazes. several cars on fire. a perilous situation in
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chris swecker, who oversaw the capture of eric rudolph. if he did want to meet with possible terrorists if he did want to make trouble what kind of opportunity do months in jordan provide? >> plenty of opportunity, john because isis have a footprint in jordan. and also there are quite pourous borders in that area. and many have traveled to join the jihadi groups in syria and iraq. and there is quite a lot of radical terrorist activity in jordan. they a caliphate last year in the town that is the
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home town of the jordanian who actually founded isis. so plenty of opportunities to meet up with people there who may have terrorist attack plans. >> so chris, there are two different narratives today, almost competing differences on the narratives. the chairman of the homeland security said he believes it is it was, and the fbi agents running the show right now on the investigation in chattanooga said as of now they have found no link between the shooter a any isis or otherwise terrorist organization. why the discrepancy right now? is congress out in front of the story or is the fbi just reticent to say everything they have learned? >> well, the fbi is not -- they're going to have more discipline than what politicians are going to have. they're going to not let their investigation out in bits and pieces. they're putting it altogether right now. they're putting the puzzle pieces together. the jordanians are at work the kuwaitis are at work. they're really not going to jump the gun here and go in front of
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the press and start to speculate. politicians will be politicians. they like to get out front. it's very likely that this was isis-inspired, at least, but the fbi is not going to come out and say that right now. >> and paul you know in terms of foreign travel there was jordan and trips to kuwait. he has family in both places. reuters was also reporting a possible trip to yemen. now, if that is the case i imagine all sorts of alarm bells have to go off because americans travel to jordan all the time. you can go and see family. but yemen, particularly without a family base there has to be of enormous concern. >> you're entirely right. if indeed he traveled to yemen that transformings the entire investigation. this is the home of the plot attacks against the united states. also directly responsible western intelligence officials believe that the paris attacks,
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the attacks against the charlie hebdo satire magazine they could have been out for revenge. when he was traveling, yemen only had a fledging appearance at that point. >> the investigators are looking at everything on line postings blogs, social media, his devices, cell records. how long will this take? how long does it take to piece together a person's complete profile? >> well in this case it is probably going to take days not weeks, probably. they're moving at warp speed. it's all hands on deck a 24/7 operation. but i would not expect them to have the full picture at this point because they depend on other intelligence services. the fbi legal atachee in imam is working overtime. but it will take a while for the
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full picture to emerge. remember the tsarnaev brothers it will take more than three or four days. >> it never was exactly clear who he met with overseas and these are things still being learned years later. thank you for joining us we appreciate it. >> just ahead, remembering and honoring those killed. those murdered. the four marines, we'll talk about their service to the country and the father takes a moment to that you can with us about his fallen son. that is when "ac360" continues.
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ever since the first shot rang out in chattanooga, much of the focus has been on the person who pulled the trigger again and again and again. investigators do need to know what motivated him, in what turned him into a killer or caused this tragedy. they need to know if there are others out there. but for those who lost loved ones, it is nearly impossible for us to put it into words. what we can do is recognize the fallen and honor their
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sacrifice. god bless america ♪ >> gunnery sergeant thomas sullivan grew up in springfield, massachusetts, he joined the military three years after graduating high school and went on to serve in iraq. members of his team described him as somebody who you would want in combat. not only checking on his men in battle but in the days afterwards to make sure they were okay. he was wounded there, earning two purple hearts one for each tour of duty in iraq. the flag outside the springfield city hall flying at half staff in honor of the fallen marine. thomas sullivan was 40 years old. staff sergeant david wyatt was originally from arkansas and lived in chattanooga with his wife laurie and their two young children. laurie posted this picture of the two of them on her facebook
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page shortly after the shooting. he joined the marines in 2004 and served in both iraq and afghanistan. david wyatt was 37 years old. sergeant carson holmquist was from wisconsin and joined the marines in 2009 and served two tours in afghanistan. his facebook page features an american flag and pictures of his wife and young son. this picture shows his wife and young son next to a sign that reads we have waited 244 days for this moment. welcome home daddy. carson holmquist was 27. from the mountains to the prairie ♪ >> lance corporal wells was known as skip who went to southern university before joining the marines just last year. becoming a marine was a life
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dream for skip. >> he was just a go-getter. everything he did he put 100% into it. he was just positive about everything. >> ethan wade and robert young were in the rotc program with skip in high school. >> it has just been an emotional day. he was one of my good friends and showed me right from wrong and was just a mentor and a guide. i just can't believe it. bad things happen to good people. >> skill wells was only 21 years old. our home sweet home ♪ ♪ skip wells, thomas sullivan carson holmquist, david wyatt. we honor all of them tonight. just before we came to air i had a chance to speak to david wyatt's father allen. mr. wyatt, we're so sorry for your loss how are you holding
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up? >> i'm holding up okay. i'm trying to be strong for my daughter in law and her two children. >> your daughter in law and two young grandchildren. how are they doing tonight? >> they're doing okay. they don't understand exactly what has gone on. my daughter in law explained to my young grandson that his father was killed by a real bad man. >> tell me about your son. this was a marine who loved his job, loved his work. and served with enthusiasm. >> yes, he worked really hard at this job. he joined the marine corps to do his part for his country and society. he was an eagle scout and tried to do the right thing. he found his calling in the marine corps working very hard and particularly in taking care of young marines. he served two tours, one in iraq
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and one in afghanistan. >> you said your son was an eagle scout, and an inspiration. i understand you got him and others to run in the marine corps. >> that is right, he was in afghanistan, and we've done some small runs his stepmother and i had done a small run. and sent him a little note via text he texted back would we run the marine corps marathon and neither me nor anyone else in the family had ever thought about running in the marine corps. so we texted get yourself back. and he and other family members, we all ran the marinecorps marathon with him. >> you kept your promise, when he got back you ran it together with him. i am sure allen, like so many people were terrified when your
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son was serving in war zones. he made it through that only then to come back to the united states to be killed in all likelihood because he was a marine on u.s. soil. that has to be difficult to come to terms with that. >> it is very difficult. we always feared we might get the same kind of call that we got last night. but it was different. because serving in a combat zone you kind of prepare yourself to hear -- with a son in the combat zone you kind of prepare yourself to hear such news. at the same time you're proud of them for doing what they can for their country. our words to him when he went over was to serve honorably, but don't be a hero. we wanted him back. but he did his job well. and we're stunned that this happened like this. the country lost four fine -- excuse me four fine young men yesterday. it's a great loss for the country. >> indeed it is.
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allen wyatt, our thoughts are with you tonight. we know it's hard but do know we here are thinking about you. the country is thinking about you and thankful for you and grateful for your son's service. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> the country lost four fine men yesterday. just ahead, a community rocked by grief coming together in sorrow. i want to speak to the mayor of chattanooga in just a moment. plus the latest to contain the battle in the wildfire burning out of control. in southern california. we'll be right back.
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a great city with a broken heart. the words of tennessee's governor just hours after the massacre in chattanooga. today, the city woke up to new details about the rampage that cancel killed four marines and left a young sailor clinging to life. chattanooga mayor andy berke joins me now. thank you for joining us just moments ago you sent out a message saying we can only
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alleviate the pain as a city and community, chattanooga strong. what is behind that message for you? >> well i think tonight we had a prayer vigil that showed as a community we can come together to support the families and also to heal our community. the pain is really too great for any of us to do this alone. it's only as a city and as a community that we can start the healing process. >> i understand you have had a chance to spend some time with the injured victims and their families in the hospital. how are they doing tonight? >> well we just put up some stuff on social media about pedigo who was injured in the gun battle yesterday. his family and he are doing well. and they just ask for privacy, a true hero. and i think we can all just respect and say he needs time to heal. we also know that the sailor who
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is still in the hospital struggling to get well we wish him the best. and we need to keep he answer family in prayers. >> he was in surgery for most of the day. you spoke about the officer who was shot in his heroism. and we learned about the tremendous hail of gunfire as they confronted the shooter. i do know you want to focus on the bravery of your officers and how they responded. >> no it was incredible. i spent several hours yesterday listening to their stories. and they jumped in their car from everywhere. they were at the courthouse, if they were someplace else in the city and even if they were at home with their kids they ran, put on some clothes and came in as fast as possible. encountered this gunman on his way to the -- to the second scene, where he was intending to
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shoot apparently so many people. and the fact that they got there quickly, as the bullets were whizzing over their heads kept advancing forward towards him, is a sign of immense bravery and heroism. >> they are brave no doubt about that. have you had a chance to be briefed on the status of the investigation, i know right now the fbi, the joint task force is overseeing this right now. but the local and state police are involved as well. can you give us a sense of the latest? >> yes, we keep updating on this. and we have every resource we can muster locally going towards this investigation, where cooperating with the fbi and atf and every aspect of the investigation. well i can't really comment on some of the things that are happening. i can tell you that they are not going to leave any stone unturned. >> mayor berke, we appreciate your time and thank you. your city is in our thoughts
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tonight. >> thank you. >> all right, just ahead for us there is no conclusive proof, the fbi says that the gunman had ties to isis. but it is very much the focus of the investigation. up next we'll speak to someone, a mother whose son was killed in syria after joining isis. we'll also get insight into a former jihadist on how young people are recruited and radicalized.
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evidence at least not yet, that the chattanooga shootings were tied in any way to isis. some lawmakers, however, including michael mccall, who chairs the house committee, they are already convinced. >> we've seen too much of this traffic, there are too many warning signs. the calls are identical to isis calls to attack. so in my experience in my opinion this was an isis-inspired attack. >> again, the fbi has not linked this to isis yet. this focuses on their recent travels to jordan. could he have been radicalized there? this woman's son converted to islam after a rocky patch in high school in canada. he said he was going to egypt to study arabic but instead went to join isis. he died fighting in aleppo. one mother's son was recruited by isis.
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she joins me now, with a former jihadist. i want to start with the travel. there was a big change in personality, a friend said after abdulazeez went to jordan. could a change in travel affect them? >> definitely it could affect what is happening in a person's life. if they're going through troubles in their life they go to a place. they meet somebody who radicalizes them or in their experiences their they may become self-radicalized. >> at this point we don't know if the shooter had a connection to terrorists or isis. but you have made it your life's mission to tell other parents and families and communities what to look for. based on what you have learned over the last 24 hours about this shooter and what he had been doing over the last several years, anything that jumps out to you? >> the biggest thing is the
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change in personality. i mean with the parents, the first thing that we should look at anyway instead of brushing it off is that if we feel emotionally there is a change, that there is a change in habits or their social habits change. you can feel as a parent if there is something different that is not quite right even if you can't put your finger on it. >> again, there was a friend who said he came back from jordan and just acted different, not the same friend he knew. and again, there was an arrest with marijuana and the odor of white powder under his nose. you know what to look for in this type of thing, the language used what jumped out to you? >> yeah in the blog post he puts the men trying to describe the elephant. two things jump out. one was to emigrate. this is isis speak, this is what they have been recruiting other
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people by. saying you need to go and join this supposed caliphate. and the fact that it was done in the fasting month. i mean devout muslims pray in the fasting month. they don't shoot places up. and for him to have done that it appears that he was taking a cue off of the isis message. of course we don't know that for sure. but there are of course we don't know that for sure. but those are two things that sound a lot like isis-speak. >> i just mentioned the dui address. he was scheduled to been front of a judge in a couple weeks. was that a symptom, possible it was a symptom of problems or cause, impetus that the arrest could have played a rolen what he was thinking to go carry out the attacks? >> it's likely more likely that they is a symptom of underlying issues he was having at home. we have learned a little bit more about family problems that he had seen growing up at least alleged abuse between the father
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onto the mother. so that's a symptom of his. but especially coming from a religiously conservative family shape and guilt play a big role. for him to be having to appear before a court for a duchlt i from a religiously conservative family probably didn't go over too well with him. so he we learned he was also fired from his job. these are things when taken together can push somebody to do what he did. >> christianne, so many in the community, coaches, said they never saw this coming. they were in shock. to a kid described as a "regular country guy." what do you tell people to look out for in? your line of work you have just got to be sick of people saying this? >> well the thing 'tis any body emotionally connected on their own, sometimes you miss it. but as a combination. little bits pieces here and there. especially if they're not living at home anymore. it gets even more difficult to see those drastic changes. but if you put it together put
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all the pieces together. being fired from his job, all the other strain that was going on in his life and you start digging deeper other than just the superficial. then you've can see there is emotional problems and emotional problems make it difficult in the world that we live in today. sometimes that's enough. >> what about the people who say this could never happen to my kid, this could never happen to my friend, this could never happen to the boy on my team? >> every time you say that we are putting that stigma on somebody that it is not going to happen it leaves us even more vulnerable. we have to be aware of the emotional connects a key piece. if we keep saying it's not going to happen to that person those are the ones that they could happen to. you have to be open. >> powerful message, christianne boudreau, and mubin shaikh. thank you for joining us. >> and the wildfire burning out of control on the 15 free way. a live report when we come back.
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an update on our breaking news the wildfire in southern california a truly terrifying sight all evening on the 15 freeway in the cajon pass. cars trucks burning. 20 vehicles destroyed. ten others are damaged. it started as a brushfire. grew to a real nightmare for thousands of drivers and people living in homes not too far
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away. helicopters have been dropping water on the vehicles trapped on the highway trying to put out the flames. cam captain richard cordova of cal fire joins us on the phone. catch tin, what's the situation on the fire? are firefighters getting a handle on it? >> well the fire is still burning at a rapid raet of speed at this time. it is moving through the, toward a town at this time. we do have multiple aircraft on the scene and also en route. >> you say it is moving toward a town right now? >> correct. a town and we have evacuations in order for the area for those homes. >> evacuations are in place right now. i understand you have helicopters, we have seen the helicopters and planes flying overhead to try to put out the fire. how effective have they been. and i read there is one challenge which is there are drones in the area that are making it difficult to battle the blaze? >> correct. that was the initial response of
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the incident. there was a drones reported in the area. that had no effect on our aircraft by the time the aircraft got on the scene, the drones were not around anymore. so we were able to -- to fight the fire aggressively in the beginning. just with the area around here with the high wind i think we got wind around between 20 30 miles an hour. at this time. and a quick update for you real quick, also. the fire is now at 3500 acres. and moving to the north. to the town i was talking about. >> 3500 acres moving to the north. a town with evacuation orders right now. people just told to get out of the way. we saw a lot of cars on the freeway there. just abandoned. any word on whether all of the drivers who were in the cars some of the cars are now just burned out shells are the drivers safe? >> correct. this is a major freeway to and from nevada las vegas area.
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and also coming fwhook california. i could tell you 1 vehicles8 vehicles have burned. two semis. all the occupants of the vehicles were able to make a safe escape. >> just about a minute left here captain. you know we have seen fires burn and jump freeways before. what seems unusual here is that it moves so fast or jumps so quickly that so many cars were caught right in the middle? >> correct. and due off to the california drought and the wind we are going to see fires this year especially with no rain. the vegetation out there is very very dry. >> all right, captain richard cordova, cal fire thank you for joining us. this blaze burning at 3,500 acres moving towards a town moving toward the north, a town
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has been evacuated or evacuation orders in place. eight, more than a dozen cars burned out there. you've are seeing the fire still going on. being battled from the air. and also on the ground. stay tuned to cnn throughout the night for updates on this. thank you for joining us. cnn tonight with don lemon starts right now. shocking information about the chatanooga shooter. shocking new information about the chatanooga shooter as america mourns four slain marines. this is "cnn tonight." investigators digging through dozens of tips desperately trying to get inside the mind of a killer. here's what we are learning now, mohammod youssuf abdulazeez got a job in a nuclear plant in ohio in 2013 but was dismissed after ten days. traveled to the middle east recently as last year. a long time friend tells cnn something happened while he was away that changed him. he also says abdulazeez had guns and would go shooting as a