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op-ed, trump continues the attacks. he says i don't need to be lectured by failed politicians. this suggests that mccain is only a war hero because he was captured. let's go to high rank in the navy. trump was speaking at a
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gathering on saturday of conservatives. >> he was a war hero because he was captured. >> he tried to clean up his comments at first with reporters. >> if a person's captured they're a hero. >> reporter: and on twitter, all soldiers are heroes. that did not stop the deluge of republicans. most wanting to top the gop field. >> it is not just absurd it is offensive. i think it is a disqualifier. >> donald trump owes every american veteran and in particular john mccain an apology. >> even the republican national committee said there is no place in our party or our country for trump's comments. trump's words only escalate an ongoing feud with mccain over illegal immigration. mccain accused trump of rallying at events in mccain's stuff
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state of arizona. in the op-ed, trump said mccain would rather attack the iraqi border than arizona. >> trump continues to talk about how much he's done for money. veterans groups are not buying it. a commander says someone who never served referring to trump, a day in a uniform should not sacrifice the service of somebody wounded in combat. >> thanks for all of that. does it hurt his campaign or help it? great to see you here. >> good morning. >> it's been a busy weekend. let me pose the question to you. after he made the comments about john mccain he got a standing ovation. does it hurt his campaign or help it somehow? >> depends on how you look at
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it. there were boos others said he did better. trump said he got a standing ovation. i think trump is at 18% in the polls. he's not at 50%. that 18% of people probably are not great fans of john mccain. when you have the entire establishment of the gop criticizing him, he looks better with the base. i think he hurt himself two ways. one, i think the weight of the commentary is going to make him look at his work for carefully. in iowa this is an issue that matters. he was asked a question about the state. he answered it saying i don't ask god for forgiveness or i don't know. that actually will cause him a problem there. >> you know this has been really interesting to watch this unfold. if it were anyone else other than donald trump who said something, this is political suicide when you attack wounded
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prisoners of war, especially the likes of john mccain they would be done. he probably will not be done. do you believe there is a lesson? >> i don't -- well, here is the interesting lesson to me. this is not so much a campaign as a complaint. when i hear trump talk he's got a grievance. part of that was mccain was a candidate in 2008. i looked at complaints about him from veterans organizations. mccain has not been perfect on the issues. look at 2005 2006 2007. he's voting for expanding health to veterans. some is questionable. >> a world of difference than mocking his status as a prisoner of war. you can say he stinks on issues and you are a veteran and it bothers you more. >> this is a pattern. he said something outrageous.
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people say, how can you say that. politically, you are going to be dead. he does a pivot. same thing on immigration. now you look at and start talking about issues. it is not a traditional way of doing politics. >> let me read to you a portion of what donald trump said in the op set in usa today. mccain abandoned our veterans. i will fight for them. john mccain has made america less safe. he said veterans i fairs have been his top priority. has john mccain not stood up for veterans? has donald trump? >> i think there are complaints against john mccain regardless. he is a hero in terms, to be clear, to your point. you have never heard that question before in that way. certainly, when you look at a race in 2004 with john kerry and the military record called into
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question. in terms of trump, he talked about veterans issues on and off. >> money to veterans? >> what i am aware of he was helping veterans memorial in new york city. that was the scepter piece of this statement. he takes an issue, pivots and shaves it a different way, then focuses on something else. he is not running the kind of campaign we have seen before. the closest thing is ross perot. even his was not like this. >> why, though? why is this different? why is this new? you could argue that donald trump is the rabbit the pace setter. you have a group of republicans, coming out and attacking him for the obvious reasons. who is going to be better? he is bringing out the outrage and the complaints. who is going to do something about it and be better? otherwise, he stays where he is. >> he talks, in many ways like a movement candidate.
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he's talking about the conservative movement. he's reflecting a lot of talking points. you listen to a right wing radio, it is not new or novel to complain about john mccain. >> we don't usually see it from somebody who says he wants to be president. this is back in 1985 when they created a vietnam memorial in new york. it was long overdue, a scandal that happened. when they wanted to have a parade in the 1990s, trump gave $1 million. we are talking a couple million he claims he's done set it against the weight and history of what mccain has done over the decades. it's really apples and bowling balls. >> you had an interesting piece in the new york times this morning about donald trump looking inside. who is advising him on pr moves on policy decisions. does he have a circle of
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advisers or all coming from donald trump? >> the man named donald trump is his own adviser. he has a small group around him. they are not people who say to him, this might not be a great idea. don't say it this way. there are discussions like that. there was no discussion after what happened saturday about apologizing. that is not a word that is in his vocabulary. you are never going to hear that from him. what you heard was pushback and him pointing to -- i said he was a hero. you are taking my word out of context. you are going to see more of that in the coming days. >> i would be surprised if we don't hear him say what he thinks of veterans and prisoners of war. i would be shocked. he is many things one is not stupid. however, when you look at the rest of the republican field, he's saying look at them complain about me now. does he have a point? they weren't out there on his
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comments about immigrants as p.o.w.s. we will want to look back in history. remember john kerry and his record? say what you want about john kerry. remember this ad? there wasn't collective outrage there. >> donald trump made comments about the commander in chief when he went after president obama and after the first records were published online he's never apologized. season apology and they are looking earnestly at the camera. you can ask the rest of the field. he's disparaged the president and john mccain. he's disparaged immigrants and said crazy things. you claim to be part of the same general political wing of american leadership. what do you have to say about it? >> it's not helpful to the party as a brand. it's not helpful to the individual candidate. most of them would not say a word after comments about
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boycott mexico. they called him privately. a different recollection of that conversation than who you believe and how it went. then he insulted mccain. democrats are openly gleeful about that saying take a look at this. it's not a profile on courage. >> it's going to be an interesting week. thanks for starting it off for us. >> who is going to be better? you can criticize what he does but you are going to be better. >> the latest on the deadly shootings. the fbi is looking into a text that the shooter sent to a friend just before the attack. this comes as we learn from the gunman's family he was facing mental health issues since he was a teen. sara is live in chattanooga with the latest on this. what do you see? >> reporter: good morning, chris. investigators here still struggling to figure out why this shooting happened. as the community here continues to grieve and pay respects to
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the growing memorial behind me it is clear there are many unanswered questions about the shooter, his life and what led to this. as funerals begin for the fallen soldiers new information is revealed about abdulzeez's mental health t. 24-year-old had a hard time keeping a job because of struggles with manic manic-depressive bipolar issues. he had sought treatment with a psychiatrist. the family told investigators they sent abdulzeez to jordan in 2014 to get away from friends in tennessee they thought were a bad influence. hours before killing, five u.s. military personnel and wounding two others he sent a text that may be a clue into his motive. in response to a message sent bay friend he texted back a
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link that said in part whoever shows to a friend of mine i have declared war against him. the text is being analyzed as only quote, one piece of the puzzle. this as new video surfaces from a 2006 high school project on religion showing the gunman or citing verses of the koran in arabic. they said he was a devout muslim. at the time showed no signs of extremism. meanwhile, family members and friends mourn the loss of their loved ones. >> he had a big heart. he wanted to make a difference in the world. >> the father of 21-year-old victim skip wells, shares his heart break on sunday. >> with everything going on he wanted to help out. being in the marine corps is where he thought he could do the most good. >> reporter: now, investigators say nothing has connected the shooter to isis or any other
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u.s. -- i'm sorry, any other terror group. he was not on a u.s. terror watch list or data base for terrorists being watched. alisyn? >> a couple things that make it troubling. thanks so much. revelations in the newly released deposition from a lawsuit filed ten years ago. cosby admits trying to pay women to keep affairs from his wife. he reveals how he attempted he thinks to seduce many of them. alexandra field joins us with the latest. >> this was done ten years ago in philadelphia filed by an accuser. bill cosby talks about sexual relationships outside his marriage. he tells attorney what is mrs. cosby did and did not know. he doesn't admit to wrong doing. the deposition is nearly 1, 000
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pages long. what emerges is a clearer picture of big cosby in his own words. he answered questions as part of a 2005 lawsuit brought against him for allegedly drugging and sexually assaulting her. cosby said the sexual encounters were consensual. i don't hear her say anything he said. and i don't feel her say anything so i continue and i go into the area somewhere between permission and rejection. i am not stopped. over the past 40 years, more than 25 women have publicly accused cosby of raping or assaulting them. in the deposition cosby says both the sex and pills were consensual. he looked for women's nonverbal cues in response to his sexual advances. >> i don't believe in nonverbal cues. consent is not the absence of a no.
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when you are stuffing drugs or alcohol into a woman, then calling it sex, it's diabolical it's disgusting. it's unacceptable and it's rape. that's a crime. >> reporter: the 78-year-old has never faced criminal charges. in the deposition he's offering constant money for education and trying to keep his wife, camille cosby in the dark. my wife would not know it's because we had sex and andrea was now very very upset. these revelations, sickening to the women who publicly accused cosby. >> it sickens me but i have to be strong. >> the transcript reveals the use of quaaludes. the lawyer says she said she believes she was not in the position to consent to intercourse after you gave her the drug. do you believe that is correct? i don't know cosby replied.
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consensual is a word cosby uses throughout the deposition and to talk about the quaaludes. we have reached out to his publicist who has no comment at this time. we have not been able to get a copy of andrea's deposition. we reached out to her attorney but given the confidentiality agreement, she cannot make comments at this point. >> incredible revelations. we are going to have one of the lead accusers on with us later this hour. >> how it all fits together. also breaking overnight, at least eight afghan soldiers killed five others wounded in a nato air strike. probably a friendly fire incident. two helicopters struck an army outpost near kabul. the army spokesperson saying an investigation is under way. a debate with the nuclear
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arms deal is under debate today. many lawmakers upset about lifting sanctions against iran without congressional approval. israel urging lawmakers to reject the deal. ash carter in tel aviv trying to sell the deal to israeli leaders. >> for the first time since 1961 the u.s. has diplomatic relations with cuba. they were restored overnight. today, embassies in washington and havana reopened. cuba's foreign minister will be there. john kerry will do the same next month. the viral jaw dropping video after a shark attacking a surfer in south africa. watch this. you will be able to see as the shark comes up from behind the surfer. he goes on the attack against the shark. his quick actions allow him to escape unscathed, if you can
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believe it. the entire incident. >> see him slap the board? >> it's chilling. it played out on live tv. we are joined from south africa where he spoke to if surfer. tell us everything. >> reporter: well that's right, alisyn. nick is one of the world's best surfers. he's rattled by what happened. this extraordinary moment by what we believe was a great white shark, smacking him with his fin. then the surfer reacted in this way, take a look. >> reporter: the surfer in the final with him, he came to his
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aid, but didn't get there before the rescuers did. i spoke to him moments ago. nick is clearly rattled. >> i found myself getting dragged under by my waist, then next thing i know i saw his fin and, you know, on my board. i think i tried to punch it. i was like -- then it started dragging me under, dragging me by my legs. i was like i don't know what to do. you never know. you just think whatever is out there. >> he says he is on his way home to australia. incredibly his mom was watching on the tv. she told him, she tried to reach in there and grab him out to safety. he's rarely shaken by this. all the pro community has been
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shaken by this. a very good ending to a very very good situation. over my shoulder here they are surfing again here today. >> that takes courage to get back in there. thank you so much. >> you are saying the jet ski came in? >> the jet ski came in and rescued him. that leech, the leash is the thing surfers wear around the ankle and connects him to the board. that is going to have a special place in his life. if it hadn't been the leash but his leg, that is a very different outcome. i heard a marine biologist say it was between 12 and 15 feet. >> scary. the question why, getting more -- in the tennessee murder. what the family of the chattanooga gunman is telling
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issues and had an addiction to drugs. joining us to discuss, phil mud, a cia counterterrorism official. yes, it's true however, there are two roads here mr. mud. one is the first we just outlined what the family is saying. then there's the second road with the perception we saw a lot of protest "the washington post" was reporting on. this is what is existing as an enemy base to america, extreme muslims out there who can be easily triggers again. these are two different paths. do you see both in the situation? >> i do. i don't think there are two paths here. i think the problem with the case is we are looking for simple solutions, linear solutions. we say, hey, we looked at his facebook account or hey, we looked at his mental health records and he's deranged. i think the problem is we are
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trying to find an answer to the solution. i bet if we talk in a month or two, we are going to look back and say the answer is muddle. he clearly had issues with family issues with drug and alcohol. he took a trip to jordan that might have led to radicalization. when we say one path or another, we are simplifying a story of radicalization. motivated by a cause with health and family issues going on. it's not simple. >> that's interesting. very often, we distinguish between those who become radicalized. in this case islamists, and those who are mentally ill. we don't want to give a radicalized person an excuse of being ill. do you think that's a precondition of buying in to an extremist ideology that you have to have something wrong with you? >> no i don't. if you spoke with them you would say this person is
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intelligent, rational. when we had senior al qaeda guys in the mid-90s, before the advent of isis i would talk to interrogators of al qaeda guys. the architects of 9/11 where 3,000 people died you would say this person is deranged angry, they are very sane people very thoughtful. they had an idea to spark a revolution that might take centuries. in this age of lone wolf an increasing number of people who are not motivated by a sort of odd version of islam, but have mental health issues. we have seen it in canada and new york now in chattanooga. i heard the word devout or devoted to the faith. this is not a correct reading of what's going on here. when i watch these cases, people who are devout participate in this congregation. when they continue participating in the congregation the other
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people will explain how their interpretation of islam is correct. those who separate out from the congregation the nondevout, you have to worry about. they will say they are not doing anything about the injustices in iraq in syria and palestine. we have to do something ourselves. i think that's what happened here. the frustrating thing is the lack of clues. that got investigators going. also as people figuring it out for themselves rightly or wrongly, he is getting the most attention. whoever shows entity to a friend of mine i have declared war against him. what does that mean to you from the faith and from the application with this guy? >> to my mind he's looked and said hey, the americans intervened in the heartland in iraq afghanistan. as i said earlier, palestine. when they intervened authority,
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religious justification. it's valid when you think about the target. we talked the past year about security target. military air force, marine army navy. i think somebody possibly during the trip to jordan said the interpretation of the text the text you just read justified action against a military target. remember we are not talking a civilian target here. i think that's what's going on here. i go back to saying at the end of this conversation we are going to look for answers or believe we will find answers that allow us to pinpoint what happened to this guy based on religious justification. it's not going to happen. it's not going to be that easy. >> thank you very much. as we hear the other things we'll come back to you and have you help us put them together. >> i'll be back. >> yes he will. a main roadway connecting california and arizona has been cut off. record rains washing out a bridge. the latest on extreme weather
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big story this morning,
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donald trump stepping up his attack on senator john mccain saying in an op-ed mccain failed our veterans and made america less safe. trump lashing out at republican rivals saying he does not need to be lectured by failed politicians. the fbi looking into a text message the chattanooga gunman sent to a friend before attacking two facilities. he said he was declaring, quote, war and included an islamic verse. they are reckononcileing that. police on long island say a drunk driver claimed four lives this weekend. a pick-up truck hit a limousine carrying a bride-to-be and seven
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close friends. the bride-to-be survived but four friends did not. he pleaded not guilty to dui during a drunk -- >> we live out there. everybody is talking about it. it's horrible for the family. we have been checking the weather. we have the tale of two stories going on here. record rainfall in southern and central california forcing interstate ten to close, cut off the main roadway connecting california and arizona. a bridge collapsing. a truck crushed in the incident. crews freed the driver inside. he's expected to survive. good news in a terrible situation. a different story in the northeast. hot. so hot you have to call the police and firemen.
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chad myers is here today. >> i'll go with that. anyway it never rains in southern california but when it does it pours. did it come down over the weekend. first time they had to cancel the padres game in years, like ten years. it was an old dying tropical system. right there, where the heavy rain was, that's where the roadway actually collapsed. all the water rushing under it washing away the foundation of the road. unbelievable. hot across the northeast. you said when can you stop this heat? the heat index 105. i love how that smells. 103 is what it will feel like in raleigh. 102 in d.c. if you have never smelled new york city in summertime you don't know what you are missing. 91 in new york city. with the heat index, the humidity is the problem.
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for the next few days it will feel like 105 to 110. enjoy the heat as we head down here for six weeks. >> if you have smelled new york in the summertime sometimes i's hard to get that out of your scent memory. >> think of it as a bouquet. you have to love the city. >> wow, you are a lover. >> meanwhile, donald trump not apologizing for saying john mccain was a war hero because he was a p.o.w.
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you rarely hear any american insult one of our p.o.w.s. it is unheard of for a would be president the do so and double down. that is what donald trump seems to be doing in an op-ed piece in usa today.
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insisting he's made america less safe. political positions are fair game for criticism. attacking what he lived through at war and in service for our country. our next guest snows john mccain struggled because he lived with him. a fellow prisoner of war was shot down. here to tell his story, former navy fighter pilot. sir, thank you for joining us on "new day." sorry it's for this reason. >> pleasure chris. >> remind people what you, john mccain others endured. >> chris, i was shot down in may of 1967. john mccain came in three or four months later. i knew him well. he was my flight instructor. i served under their father j.f. mccain.
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i knew who he was. he was one of the most injured prisoners i saw. seven broken bones and they were twisting his broken bones to torture the poor guy, yet one of the toughest guys i had ever seen. we were in and out of a prison camp for six years. >> six years. what happened in your head and heart when you heart donald trump said what he said about john mccain as a p.o.w.? >> i have to be honest with you, i was amused. to begin with john or any one of the 591 guys we were with would never call himself a hero. he doesn't feel he was a hero. it's a bit of a nonissue calling a person a hero. we were over there in uniform, fighting for our way of life. we were dedicated to the mission and in some small way, we were
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in uniform to protect donald trump's right to free speech. not only that it occurs to me and i thought about this immediately when i heard trump's remarks. that if it hadn't been for men and women in uniform, if we had all gotten deferments in college, there would be no opportunity to be a billionaire in the united states. >> do you think that john mccain you, others are owed an apology by donald trump? >> i don't need an apology. i don't think john needs an apology. we know who we are. we are very well adjusted people. we understand that first of all, it's political rhetoric for the most part. it's stirring the pot. so i don't need an apology. >> you ever heard anybody say anything like that let alone someone who wanted to run for
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president? >> you know i never have. we were treated very well when we came home. in fact you know we were really sad to find -- we didn't know this at the time, but when we came home to find so many veterans got such a poor welcome when they came home. we including john mccain and me started visiting vets hospitals. we had a program every february on the 14th of february every year. the p.o.w.s would visit v.a. hospitals to talk to the veterans who didn't get the welcome home we got. we didn't feel like heroes but we accepted the fact at that time in history, america needed heroes. we were the only thing you had. so we accepted that. >> that's the problem with you heroes you never accept your heroism.
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that's a challenge to recognize what is so obvious to everyone else. political attack is part of the game -- >> thank you for that. >> no thank you. political attacks are part of the game. john mccain is worthy of criticism as anybody else in the game. do you think it's wrong to confuse that criticism with the service to the country john mccain and so many others gave? >> well to begin with it somehow degrades military people and people in uniform. on the other hand you have to consider the source. trump has never served in the military. we used to call them draft dodgers. that's what we are looking at. >> but he's at the top of the polls, captain. how do you explain that? >> in all fairness i really appreciate and respect some of the things trump is saying. he's being honest. he's being blunt.
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he's right out front with everything. he's transparent and, so no there's really good reasons, i think, to listen to donald trump. >> any chance he'd get your vote? >> no. >> you were being very open minded for a second. i appreciate that. thank you for your candor and transparency. thank you for reminding us a little bit of what was lived through in those camps. thank you for what you did for our country and coming on "new day." the best to you. >> thank you, chris. bill cosby admits to buying drugs to give to women he wanted to sleep with. there is much more in these newly released documents. we will review, next.
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cnn obtained bill cosby's
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2005 deposition from a lawsuit. the documents reveal stunning new details and many of them we should warn you, are sexually graphic. let's bring in barbara bowman one of the women that says cosby drugged and raped her. good morning, barbara. >> good morning, alisyn. >> so, you have had quite a wild 24 hours since this deposition and cosby's words have come to light. i know you haven't had time to read through all 1,000 pages. give us your initial, first impression to the things he said. >> the first thing that came to my mind was finally, after all the years that i had been screaming my story and certainly since 2005 after andrea was brave enough to file her suit. i was supposed to testify with
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13 other women in that case. >> yeah. >> it was a wonderful day. a wonderful, great, opportunity to move forward to education and bring awareness about sexual predatory behavior. >> let's go through the excerpts and respond to specific moments. let's start here. this is the moment where bill cosby talks about the minutes after andrea says she was sexually assaulted. here is his interpretation of what happened. i walk her out, she does not look angry. doesn't say don't ever do that again or with an attitude of huff. i'm a good reader of people in romantic sexual things whatever you want to call them. what is your response? >> it makes me sick. it sends a very wrong message about what consent really means. consent is not the absence of a
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no. when you put drugs and alcohol in the mix and put a person into a state of impairment and incapacitation where they are unable to respond in a normal setting, it's manipulative, die diabolical and controlling. it's behavior of a sociopath. that's the most dangerous type of predator out there. >> here is another expert you find sickening, where bill cosby claims he tried to avoid intercourse with women because he felt they became too attached to him. sexual intercourse is more of a romance and feeling, not love. it's deeper than a playful situation. what did you think when you read those? >> to me that's just another example of narcissistic behavior
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and thinking pattern. sociopaths and psychopaths operate on a different system than a normal average person who has rational thinking. they begin to believe their lies as a way to justify their behavior and to continue to manipulate those around them to create confusion. it's a method of control and dominance. he's unable to think clearly, it's sick thinking. when you are dealing with that type of mental impairment it's -- it's -- it's incon grewous with reasonable thinking and the way we operate as normal human beings in a civilized society. it's controlling, it's sad. >> barbara, you know you are one of the people one of the 12 women that i have interviewed,
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who believes you were given a powerful sedative by bill cosby before the assault. here is where he talks about seven prescriptions of quaaludes. the lawyer says why didn't you take them? because i use them. >> for what? >> he is equating giving hem a quaalude as a glass of wine. what is your response? >> it's a loaded question alisyn you could go on for a while. the one glass of wine i was given certainly had something powerful in it that made me unable to make reasonable positions and in a vulnerable position where my body was violated. i would consider that ultimate control, considered kidnapping,
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in my opinion because i was unable to make decisions, blacking out, waking up my body was violated. and that is a crime. that's rape. anyone that says that hey, you know we were just doing drugs and having a drink. it was all fun. it was cute. it was petting. it was this. i am, you know it was -- she could have said no. sending the wrong message to young people about what that really means. that's what i'm working on in the future is to speak out and educate young people on the subject. >> you have turned your ordeal and pain into trying to empower young people about exactly what consent means. it was your op-ed in washington post that opened the flood beats on this. we appreciate being able to check in with you as the developments come from bill
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cosby. thank you so much barbara. >> i appreciate it. thank you so much too. >> le's get to chris. >> a significant step in that story. there is a lot of news this morning. let's get to it. >> he's a war hero because he was captured. i like people that weren't captured. >> disqualifier as commander in chief. >> rhetoric from donald trump. >> there's nothing funny about the insults he's directed at a genuine war hero. >> the nuclear deal with iran put to a vote. >> if kong doesn't pass this you are not going to have a negotiation. >> there are still many unanswered questions about the shooter. >> he had issues with his family. he had issues with drugs and alcohol. >> the latest bombshell with bill cosby. >> it sickens me. i have to be strong.
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announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. >> good morning, welcome back to your "new day." michaela is off today. donald trump is not letting up on john mccain. he rejecting to apologize. in fact he is going back on the track. he says mccain abandoned veterans and made america less safe. he said he does not need to be lectured like his violations. to hear trump tell us the proof is in the polls. cnn chief congressional correspondent dana bash. it is in his favor. >> worried republicans have been saying they ae sure trump would say something so outrageous his candidacy would implod.
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it is no question this is it. in a new op-ed in usa today, donald trump remains defiant saying the reality, john mccain the politician made america less safe and mccain abandoned our veterans i will fight for them. he sparked a fast and furious backlash over the weekend, taking aim at mccain. he wears the scars of five years being a prisoner after his plane was shot down. >> admiral john mccain. turning down early release because of his father's high ranking in the navy. >> he's a war hero because he was captured. >> he tried to clean up comments. >> if a person is captured they are a

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