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how sweet and beautiful lia gelles is. congratulations to the family. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." join us every day if you can't watch us live, dvr the show. erin burnett "out front" starts right now. tonight, number one, donald trump now at the top of a major new national poll even after saying john mccain is no war hero. tonight, presidential candidate and john mccain's best friend lindsey graham tells me don't trump is a jackass. in tonight, details about the new york prison sweat. how sweat worked on his escape and not a single person seemed to notice. shark attack again. a pro surfer battles a shark, all of it caught on live tv. let's go "out front."
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good evening. i'm kate baldwin in for erin burnett. a new national poll just out. the headline donald trump is number one. not only is he leading republicans in the race for the white house right now, but he has almost twice the support of his closest opponent. the poll was taken just as trump ignited aid new edd a new round of criticism calling out senator mccain, saying mccain was not a war hero. the poll shows trump with 24% support. that's 11 points ahead of scott walker in second place and double the support of jeb bush. the rest of the field in single digits. trump's support may have registered higher but the pollsters did say he took a hit following his comments about mccain. he will not be apologizing to
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senator mccain. trump remaybeins defineyiantdefiant. here he is moments ago. >> he should apologyize to the 15,000 people that have been fighting illegal immigration and are pretty phietrified to be living where they are living. >> we will hear from john mccain's son. you do not want to miss this. he's a jackass. he is bringing his name down and he is not helping the process. and he shouldn't be commander in chief. >> presidential candidate lindsey graham passionate re response. amid the criticism tonight, we have this new poll. what does this say about how voters are responding to donald
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trump's comments about john mccain? >> reporter: i think it says a couple things. it's a segment that's restless angry and not happy about where washington is going here. donald trump is defiant all day long. even as this divides the gop. >> he is not a war hero. >> reporter: donald trump is presidential race. for that and everything else, he makes no apologyies. >> i'm not a fan of john mccain. he's done a terrible job for the vets. >> reporter: his spat with mccain is escalating ever since he questions whether he was actually a war hero. >> he is not a war hero. he is a war hero because he was captured. i like people that weren't captured. okay? i hate to tell you. >> reporter: the senator's son tweeted, there are lines you do not cross. trump crossed one. he told cnn, trump disparaged the service of all pows.
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>> that's an inflammatory statement for somebody trying to be the commander in chief of the united states military. >> you think it's disqualifying? >> nothing in politics is disqualifying. >> even this? >> even this. i hope that his personality is shown through, that his -- whether it was an off-handed comment or not then there needs to be serious soul searching as to whether he's a viable candidate. >> i think he may owe an apology to the families of those who have sacrificed in conflict and those who have undergone the prison experience in serving our country. >> he let us down. >> reporter: most republicans piled on trump and rallied to mccain's defense. >> this is a legitimate hero that has served his country in lots of ways. mr. trump knows that. he should apologize. >> it's not just absurd.
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it's offensive. it's ridiculous. i do think it's a disqualifying. . >> reporter: one candidate didn't join in. ted cruz blamed the media. >> i recognize that folks in the press love to see violence. you want me to say something bad about don'tald trump. >> reporter: voters in new hampshire and south carolina were mixed. >> he's not qualified to be president. his candidacy really is all about donald. >> he is fit to be president. he needs to watch what he is saying. >> reporter: as you can hear the views are mixed. those who find trump appealing before this controversy might still, because they are looking for a very different kind of candidate. but for those who may have been checking trump out, all the voters may be turned off by this. one note about "the washington post" poll. his support fell a little bit on the final day.
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he is at 24% nationally twice as high as any other candidate. kate? >> it shows he had the room to take that hit with the amount he has surged. jeff, thank you so much. earlier, i spoke to one of trump's presidential republican rivals lindsay -- senator lindsey graham. i asked him what his first thought was when he heard trump's comments about his good friend. >> that he's a jackass. that he is bringing his name down and he is not helping the process. and he shouldn't be commander in chief. if you want to be commander in chief of the armed forces, you need to understand that john mccain and all like him, not just john are truly american here rose. when when you put yourself in harm's way, that makes you a hero. what makes you the hero when
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you are the spouse raising kids when your loved one is deployed. i've been in the millitary for 33 years. it's a team and family. what he said about john i think was offensive. he is becoming a jackass at a time when we need to have a serious debate about the future of the party and the country. we're on the verge of giving an iranian ayatollah who is a radical jihadist a pathway to a nuclear bomb. we are becoming greece here at home. all we are talking about is donald trump and everybody he insults. he crossed the line here. maybe some frustration with our border. i get that. that's no justification. >> what's the line he crossed? >> saying that john mccain and people like him are not american heros. the american people will not tolerate what he is doing regarding those who have served. this is a line he has crossed. this is the beginning of the end
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of donald trump. >> you seem angry. >> i am really pissed. come on john and i have been buddies. what about bud day? a medal of honor winner in iowa that i got to know through john. i cannot tell you how many prisoner erers of war i met through john and all of them are incredible people. it's not about john. it's about all of those who have experienced captivity. and when asked trump, do you know what he went through? that doesn't matter. it does. it matters a lot. it matters a lot that you would be tortured for 5 1/2 years trying to defend your nation. i'm confident the people of iowa and new hampshire and south carolina will figure this out. i'm really frankly tired of this. the world is falling apart. my party is trying to re-emerge as a viable national voice. i think we're on the verge of a good comeback here. every time i turn around i'm being asked about donald trump. i'm tired of it. >> you make a good point. john mccain, he's not talking
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about this a lot. he doesn't want to talk a lot about this. >> he wouldn't. >> he said he doesn't need an apology from donald trump. what do you want to hear from donald trump? >> tell me what you would do about anything. tell me how you would solve the immigration problem. tell me what you would do with iran. articulate a solution to americas -- america's problems. stop disparaging people like senator mccain. it doesn't elevate you. it gets us off in a ditch. realize you are running for the highest office in the land the strongest voice in the world. take the quest more seriously. >> you say this is the beginning of the end of donald trump. >> i think so. >> why then is he still topping the polls, senator? the new poll it was just released -- you probably haven't seen it since you were in the event. he surged donald trump, to 24%, nearly twice the nearest republican rival. >> but i think what's going to happen is we get serious as a party about picking our nominee,
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we're going to look at ourselves and say, who do we want to send into the arena? where are the party of the military? the thing i like most about my party is that we are strong on the national defensele we have had a history of being the soldier's best friend and their families. what donald trump said about john mccain and all those who have served is out of sync with our party. our party is a group of very hard working decent people. when donald trump said that most of the illegal immigrants are rapist and drug dealers, i don't think our party-- our party will say, no that's not who we want in the arena. that voice is a loser's voice. i want a winner's voice. >> for you the campaign continues. thank you so much. >> the campaign continues. >> strong comments from senator lindsey graham. joining me to respond is donald trump's campaign manager.
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thanks for coming in tonight. you heard senator graham right there. donald trump, he says is a jackass. what do you say in response to that? >> well clearly, it's a politically motivated statement. you have a candidate running for president of the united states who is registering low in the polls. he is trying to do anything to make the debate stage. he is needs to get on tv and talk about a message which his message is not resonating with the american public. >> what about he says start coming up with solutions? >> look, mr. trump has very clear. lindsey graham and john mccain are in favor of amnesty for illegal aliens saliens. we want to have legal citizenship. the fact that this whole thing started when john mccain called 15,000 hard working americans crazies in arizona -- >> he said that affectionately. >> it's not. every time senator mccain says something they give him a pass whether they are crazies, he gets a pass. he is a hard these are hard working americans who want something better. there was no media outcry no
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push back from senator mccain saying where is your apology. why don't we ask where his apology is? >> it's one thing to say you are wrong and it's another thing to question something folks say is not in question is his military service. that gets me to where we are in the polls right now. this is a big day for your campaign. donald trump now topping the latest poll 24%. it would have been higher had this comment not happened. the pollsters say he took a hit following this comment. does that worry you? >> i don't agree with that. there are two polls that came out. one came out in iowa done pre and post comments. it says mr. trump's numbers are the same 13 before and after. if you look at the abc poll what they showed was 8% of the entire poll was done on sunday. which means 92% was done on the -- >> and they acknowledge that.
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it was say it was -- >> youyou think it's an error. they say it did show a statistical significance. bottom line let's not argue about polls. does it worry you they did see a dip in his polls following the comments? sglt purpose . >> the purpose is to get sampling. 8% of the roll is not a significant sample. if you look at the -- >> you are not going to see a dip? >> i don't guarantee. what i snow is that mr.know is mr. trump is at 24%. i want to be mr. trump at 24% leading the polls and not being apology apology aa apologetic. >> will you be with veterans tomorrow? >> absolutely. the shooter who killed five military men. was he inspired by isis?
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tonight, new clues into the mind of a killer who slaughtered four marines and a sailer. a friend of mohammad abdulazeez telling cnn that he spoke of isis and other terror groups. we're learning from sources that he may have left behind writings of what authorities are calling anti-american. could this be what's behind abdulazeez's opening fire on two military facilities? drew griffin is "out front" live in chattanooga. what are authorities saying about these writings? >> reporter: the first thing i need to tell you is they are not recent. some are more than a year ago, before he went to jordan. they contain writings according to our sources, that are anti-u.s., specifically anti-u.s. policy in the middle east.
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but they also include, according to sources, writings of someone who may be suicidal. there isn't anything right now that says in his own hand this is why i shot these five marines. they're still puzzled by this as they continue to dig to find out who he was communicating with and what if any connection there is to radical islam. >> seems to be a lot to be puzzled about. part of this is you spoke to a friend of his who says abdulazeez spoke about isis but it's not what everyone would think. right? >> reporter: yeah. absolutely. james petty is the friend's name. he converted to islam just a year ago. he was in a support group. mohammad abdulazeez was sort of the spiritual leader of this small group. they talked often about a lot of issues, including isis. and this is what petty says that his friend thought about isis. listen to this. >> it was a stupid group and it
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was completely against islam. and not to even think about going towards them. and i felt like it wasn't kind of in the sense of i'm with their group, so i don't want to you do like me. it was more like just this is not where you should be going towards. >> reporter: kate over the weekend, abdulazeez's family put out a statement saying their son was depressed, suffering from depression. james petty says he never saw that in this person that he knew. always upbeat. always smiling. he had a big, big problem with marijuana, called him a pot head. that was it as far as drug abuse. so it's just more of a confusing picture being painted here. i don't think right now we're any closer to finding out why this mass murder took place. >> it sure doesn't seem so. more answers, more questions. thanks so much. drew is on the ground there for us in tennessee. now, bob baer cnn's
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intelligence and security analyst. when you take everything that we are now learning about abdulazeez so far, the writings about anti-american sentiment, he is also against u.s. policy in the war on terror but no direct connection to any terror groups. at this point, do you consider him a terrorist? >> i think he's a terrorist. i mean we don't know what went on in jordan when that visit -- was he recruited? you have to look at the crime itself. people in uniform. it was conducted during ramadan. he was the type of person the isis would go after. you know sort of -- even the dui, they are looking for weak people on the margins. they are trying to give a meaning -- everything you look -- you look at the face of this attack and it looks like the islamic state was behind it.
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we have to keep in mind the islamic state understands the fbi is catching these people when they go up on social networks and they talk about their plans or they buy tickets to syria. they are learning. they are learning to stay off the internet. doing the stuff quietly. what he said to friends and family is sort of irrelevant. that's told -- isis tells them don't describe to people what you are going to do. i don't think we're going to get to the center of this. let's see. >> bob, what then to your point, what you do you make the fact that his friend said he spoke out saying isis was doing wrong and in his words he called isis a stupid group, completely against islam? >> i think it's -- i tlihink the statement is worthless. that's what he would be instructed to do is to describe isis in terms that are unacceptable to him and his philosophy and the rest of it. because isis knows to operate in this country, they have to do is
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discretely. the wait do that is not talk to -- talk to your friends. fbi has agents everywhere. they are looking at social media. why tip your hand at something like this? let's go back to the targets, the attack people in uniform, ramadan, these same calls rr ss were made by the islamic state. it certainly fits profile of an islamic state attack. >> also according to some sources, the gunman his family says that he was depressed and he was doing a lot of drugs. you think that the depression and drug use they are irrelevant here. why? >> well it's more than irrelevant. this contributes. this is what isis is looking for, people psychologically weak. you look at the ahmann hotel bombings in 2005. one woman was almost retarded. she just didn't know what she was doing. the islamic state recruits children as suicide bombers.
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they are looking for people that really sort of have nothing in the world or don't think they do. they are offering them meaning and salvation, if you like. this message is very easy to get across to these people and it's very effective. >> five service members are now dead and no answers for their families that's for sure. bob, thank you so much. next convicted killer david sweat, he reveals that he spent months roaming free inside prison walls until he found an escape route. the amazing new details coming out. that's next. our next guest thinks the latest revelations about bill cosby could be a game changer. will he face charges?
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escape from a new york state prison triggering one of the biggest manhunts in recent history. investigators who have been interviewing sweat, they tell "the new york times" is his plan of escape is one of patience and timing. he spent months navigating the elaborate maze of tunnels and catwalks trying to chip out of the prison. it wasn't until the temperatures warmed that sweat and richard matt got their lucky break. for more on all of the details coming out, miguel marquez is "out front." what are we learning now inging now? >> reporter: we are learning new things that sweat is telling investigators, that he was able to work from 11:30 p.m. until 5:30 a.m. that he had basically free reign of the catacombs, the tunnels under there. at first his thought was, how do
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i get out? he tried to chip through the wall of the prison itself using a hand tool and a sledgehammer he was able to obtain. when that didn't work may 4th they turned off the steam to the heating system. that's when he was able to cut through the pipe. a lot of questions about how he cut through that pipe. he says he did it with a hacksaw and it took him over a month do that according to this account in "the new york times." kate? >> sounds near impossible still. there's also a lot of confusion yet as to who was the mastermind behind this escape. what are investigates thinking at this moment? >> reporter: it was assumed for a long time that matt was probably the mastermind because he escaped once before. sweat telling a different story saying he was behind it in january it took shape when he was placed next to matt's cell. he cut through his own cell first and then from matt's cell from behind. then they both had access to the
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tunnels. even tell one joke that once they got out that it took them ten years to get out of prison whereas the shawshank redemption character, it took 20 years to get out. kate? >> trying to break some kind of record. miguel, thank you so much. also this evening, arthur rod rickde roderick and harry houck. things that hits me is he was worg working from winter through spring. he had free reign from 11:30 p.m. every night to go through the catacombs of the prison until 5:30 in the morning. doesn't this -- shouldn't that shock everyone? >> it's hard to believe that at 11:30 was the last time they did a bed check. there was no bed check between
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11:30 and 5:00? what's going on? apparently it appears the guards were sleeping. the amount of noise he had to be making with a sledgehammer -- he said he used a sledgehammer on that pipe and make that noise for a month trying to get through the pipe with just a hacksaw, that's incredible. >> incredible. arthur to harry's point, impossible to believe they still pulled this off. is it -- it's possible that david sweat, that he had been roaming the tombs for months without any of the prison guards noticing. everyone at this point is believing they're asleep. do you believe it so many months no one noticing? >> i think they're able to corroborate a lot of his story. as you might recall, a week prior to the escape there was a small riot at the prison. they got permission to lock the prison down. unfortunately, they did not lock the honor block down. i don't know what they were doing in the honor block. it sounds like they just had free reign to do whatever they wanted to do.
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the complacency on the part of the guards in that honor block is just unbelievable to me. that he was able to have free run back there in the catacombs and figure out by trial and error how to get out. >> exactly to that point. >> i don't think he was going down there every night either. him or matt had to be going back and forth taking turns. when do you sleep in they? they work during the day. were they in the catacombs every night? i'm not so sure about that. the fact is that sweat, conversations with mat, we can't corroborate. matt is dead now. everything he is saying to us we have to believe. just looking to be a bigger hero than he was. >> one interesting point coming out is that it seems at least one inmate did notice something going on complaining to them about the noise that they were creating. richard matt said that because
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he's an artist he was working on his canvas and that's what the noise was about. that doesn't make sense. do you think it was common knowledge that these guys were trying to pull this off? do you think it the inmates believed the story? >> i'm sure the inmates thought something was going on. they had to hear the noise. they don't want to give anybody up. in the honor block, there's no rats to be able to give anybody up. the fact is that they kept it quiet for a long period of time. they did get to escape. i'm sure they knew about it. there's no doubt in my mind. >> what do you think, arthur? >> i think so too. i think probably quite a few of them knew about it. i mean it's just one of those situations where i mean when you talk about escapes that happen in general, not just this one but others that have happened in the past and in the more recent future i mean they just don't know about it. i also -- i hate glorifying this guy. remember exactly -- >> i hear you on that. i absolutely hear you. probably negates my final question to you, which is what does david sweat have to gain here harry, from making himself
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out to be the mastermind and to spilling all of the details? >> i think most important thing in this whole investigation is was there anybody inside the prison working with him? i think that's all they really want to know. as far as the break is concerned, they can take a look and see what happened. if i was the detective or i was working with the prisons, i would tell them you will be on lockdown 23 hours a day, one hour to take a walk. i don't care. maybe we will give you two hours to come out. i want to know who else in the prison knew about this escape plan. >> what do you think, arthur? what's to gain getting an extra hour to go outside? >> well that's part of it. we're also talking about him. he is getting all kinds of notoriety on this escape. i mean that's part of it. they are going to think he's a folk hero in jail. but i think you are right. i mean he's -- from an investigative standpoint they have to give up all the information. they have made several changes
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in security not only at this facility but other facilities around new york based on what's going on here. i mean maximum security lock them down for 23 hours a day give them the hour out. if he is going to cooperate, then give him more time in the rec yard. >> "new york times" describing it as a culture of complacency that they took advantage of. thanks so much. next stunning new details about bill cosby's once secret life admitting to pursuing young women, banking on his fame and powerful drugs. a great white shark sneaks up on a surfer dragging him under while viewers, including the surfer's mother watched it all happen on live tv. [ horn honks melody ] well, well. if it isn't the belle of the ball. gentlemen. you look well. what's new, flo? well, a name your price tool went missing last week. name your what, now? it gives you coverage options based on your budget. i just hope whoever stole it knows
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more on the new revelations. >> reporter: bill cosby describes in graphic detail extensive sexual relationships with women outside of his marriage. i thought i heard her moan. i was happy feeling she had an orgasm. i took my hand out. i don't remember if there was buttoning or zipping or whatever. we stood up. the explosive testimony from a 2005 deposition during a sieve ill suit brought by former temple university employee andrea constant who claims she was drugged and sexually assaulted. cosby claims it was consensual. i don't hear her say anything and i don't feel her say anything. so i continue and i go into the area that is somewhere between permission and rejection. i aprilm not stopped. reaction from the women who say they were his victims, outrage. >> it makes me sick. and it sends a very wrong message about what consent really means.
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consent is not the absence of a no. >> reporter: cosby says he had sexual fun with women and steered away from intercourse to prevent women from falling in love with him. the act of the penile entrance is something i feel the woman will succumb to more of a romance and more of a feel, not love. but it's deeper than a playful situation. as for drugging women, cosby admits he had seven prescriptions for kraquaaludes for a bad back. his intent was to give them to woman he socialized with. quaaludes were the drugs young people were using to party with. there were times i wanted to have them just in case. although he denies any criminal sexual behavior, he says this when asked about constant. she believed she was not in the position to consent to intercourse after you gave her the drug. do you believe that is correct? cosby says, i don't know. we are learning details the cosby's methods, asking one of his accusers about her father who died of cancer in order to
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get closer with her. did you ask those questions because you wanted to have sexual contact with her? yes. through it all, cosby's wife has stood by his side and the deposition may explain why. as could by admits to sending secret money to some of his accusers to keep decades of inif i dealt hidden. the reason you were doing? who were you preventing from knowing that? mrs. cosby. we have heard from so many accusers of bill cosby, we have never heard from andrea. she was part of a settlement agreement from the 2005 case that never did bo to trial. she leads a private life at this point. but all of the accusers now credit her because she is the one person that had the courage to come out in 2005 in a legal forum against bill cosby. >> now you have a legal deposition that is coming to light to hear him in his own words. >> because of andrea.
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>> yep. thank you so much. i want to bring in a sex crimes prosecutor. stacie i know you were listening that to me. this deposition is quite revealing on how cosby carried on with women, particularly telling on how he viewed the concept of sexual consent. i want to reiterate and read one part that has stood out to a lot of folks when he says, i don't hear her say anything and i don't feel her say anything and so i continue and i go into the area that is somewhere between permission and rejection. i am not stopped. what does that say to you? >> i mean really when we have heard this deposition and it was all over of the news all weekend, it's sickening, quite frankly, when you hear in his own words how he talks about that he is really a mind reader. he believes that he knows whether or not this person is consenting. we all know that if you have to give somebody drugs in order to have sex with them it's because under normal circumstances, if
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her mental capacity was there, she didn't want to consent. he is arrogant and a narcissist and he believes that what he is doing is okay. he will never admit this is criminal behavior because most people who assault in a sexual way will say that it was consensual and that's what he is saying here. it's almost as if he is doing them a favor, the celebrity, the fame no one is going to tell on me. she didn't outright push me away. so it was my belief that she was consenting to this behavior when we all know it was quite the opposite. >> he has never been charged criminally. he has denied any wrongdoing in the brief statements that his team has put out, if you will. when you look at this deposition the big question has been all along the issue of statute of limitations for charges against him. with this deposition coming to light when you hear from him and n his own words about these sexual encounters about his approach for lack of a better
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testimony, do you term do you see this as a game changer in any legal suit against him? >> i think the public would like this to be a huge game changer and say now that this has come to light and they have validated the claims of these people let's take him into court. in every state there's a statute of limitations. and sometimes the statute is changed by the legislation. but this one deposition is not going to change the statute if it's run. there is one case that is still pending. that's because the allegations are that the victim was underage at the time that the event took place, that the assault took place. in those cases, the statute is usually extended if you are underage at the time. while these other women will not have the opportunity to prosecute. this one case that is under investigation might bring to light a criminal case. the difference is, if there's defamation cases pending, which there are. because he called these women liars. some are filing deaffamation
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suits. with this deposition that could be a game change are, because he val dadeidates what they are to say. none of them had access to the deposition. it's not like they read this first and said let's jump on the bandwagon. they didn't have knowledge. it was sealed. it's interesting. this could be a gamehanger in those sieve illcivil suits. >> a lot of folks wondering what's going to come out. next for us a surfer faces off with a great white shark. the surfer he doesn't run, he doesn't swim away. he can't run in the water. he punches the shark in the nose. we have the video. ahead, the cheater's website that promises to bring your marriage back to life. it has been hacked. things should be gets very lively. i am totally blind. and sometimes i struggle to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. this is called non-24. learn more by calling 844-824-2424.
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surfer survived. >> reporter: the terrifying moments of a great white shark attack unfolding on live tv. in horrifying slow motion mick fanning one of surfing's greats. >> all of a sudden i sort of saw something behind me. all of a sudden i just jumped from my board. and i just was like okay something is going on. and then i found myself getting dragged under by my leash. and then next thing i know i saw his fin. and then the next thing it came back around and went again. and yeah and it was like -- >> reporter: halfway around the world, fanning's mother watched at take live from australia. >> i just couldn't believe what i was seeing. i realized it must be a shark
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attack. well i was absolutely terrified. i thought we lost him. >> reporter: instead of swimming away fanning turned to face the sedan-sized shark and swung a few punches. >> if i'm going to go down ready to go down with a fight. >> reporter: nick fanning said it was ultimately up to the shark whether he lived or died. for pro suffering surfing is like a religion. however he says this attack put his life into focus. >> reporter: the attack has rattled the pro surfing community. but this story could have ended so much worse. and fanning says he just wants to get home to australia to give his mom a hug. well mick is clearly deeply shaken by this experience. all playing out on live tv here
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in south africa. and he is on his way back home to his mother in australia. but you know what he says he is going to be back on the waves soon but certainly it is going to be with a lot more trepidation after his near close shave with a giant shark. kate. >> his first reflex was to punch and fight the shark. just amazing. and his poor poor mother watching. david, thank you so much. amazing stuff. coming up jeanne moos undercover on the undercovers website for cheating spousz inging inging spouses, ashley madison.
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some cheating spouses are probably freaking out tonight. why? well here's jeanne moos. >> reporter: the ashley madison website for people who want to cheat. >> life is short, have an affair. >> reporter: is known for its catchy slogan. now members are worried they will get caught thanks to hackers who taunted the company with welcome to your worst bleeping nightmare. close down your site or else. the hackers are threatening to release customer records including secret sexual fantasies. not to mention real names and addresses. the writer who broke the story says the hackers contacted him and for an hour and a half the accounts of several thousand individuals were viewable online. >> whether they're interested
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in in sex with multiple partners or with partners of the same sex. >> this after the website boasted of the security and discretion. >> ashley madison. >> reporter: i signed up as a guest with the user name dolley madison 5 to check out profiles. from sexy side dish 2 to the pork chop queen, to busty for lusty. all probably sweating bullets that they'll get busted for infidelity. that they're online escapades will be exposed like anthony weiner's. >> you would know if this is your underpants. >> the question i appreciate you continuing to flash that at me. >> reporter: ashley madison the site that loves to provoke with billboard like your wife is hot but so are ours. now in the hot seat saying we have been able to secure our sites and close the unauthorized access points. the suspicion is that. >> this was some body who had an ax to grind against the company. probably a former employee.
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>> reporter: spilling sex secrets isn't your useable hack job. >> you can change your credit card number. can't change your fetishes. >> sixexual proclivities. >> no, this is home wrecker. dolley madison 5, cnn, new york. >> come on people serves you right i guess. thank you for joining us. and "ac 360" starts now. >> good evening. thank you for joining us. breaking news on a number of fronts. starting with new polling showing a big lead for republican contender donald trump and potentially big caveat. from abc news/"washington post," it shows mr. trump with an 11-point lead over scott walker a 12 point lead over jeb bush and the rest of the field in single dij tips.gits. a portion of it was taken after mr. trump took the verbal shot at senator john mccain's vietnam wa
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