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mind if i laid into an old guy on the ground after did i what i needed to do. >> munoz would like to become a cop. the officer who responded smelled alcohol on the other man's breath. he admitted he had four to five shots of whiskey. police say he potentially faces charges, ranging from dui to assault. cnn was unable to reach him. he was treated at the hospital for a broken ankle and abrasions on his knuckles. i wonder how he got those. jeanne moos cnn, new york. >> "ac360" starts right now. good evening. thank you for joining us. breaking news on the death of a woman in jail after police pulled her over for failing to signal. our first look at the moments leading unto the arrested self. >> get out now! >> sandra bland was later found
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dead in this cell in the waller county texas jail. police say she hanged herself. authorities say her death is being investigated like murder. we're going to have a lot more on this a little later on. we begin the latest uproar surrounding donald trump. it completely overshadowed the entry of a 16th republican contender for the nomination. ohio governor john kasich. late today, candidate jeb bush had sharp words for the tone he believes will donald trump is setting. >> we have to appeal to people's higher aspirations, or we'll lose elections over and over and over again. that's my problem with mr. trump. >> his problem, he says is not necksly the message but in what he calls the language of divisive ugliness which brings us to the latest campaigning of south carolina home to senator and rival lindsey graham who has called him a jack ass. mr. trump had a reply and it could not be more personal.
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>> reporter: donald trump barraged by criticism. >> they say they didn't like the way that you know i'll a little loud. i'm a little too strong. they don't like it. >> reporter: the reality tv star with a flair for drama took presidential politics to yet another level. >> and i see your senator. what a stiff. what a stiff. >> reporter: responding to fellow republican candidate lindsey graham saying this to cnn. >> he is becoming a jack ass. >> i watched lindsey graham on television and he call may jack ass. >> standing in graham's home state of south carolina he retaliated by reading aloud the personal cell phone number. >> i found the card. i wrote the number down. let's try it. 202 -- >> we asked why. >> reporter: why did you read lindsey graham's cell phone number? >> so people can call him so he can maybe get something done but he won't be able to. >> reporter: graham unable to be reached by cell responded
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through his campaign manager saying donald trump continues to show hourly that he is ill prepared to be commander in chief. all this amid a back and forthwith iowa's largest numb, the des moines register, whose editorial board called for him to pull the plug on his bloviating the side show. trump glp called. he is buoyed by crowds like this. all told, some 1,100 people in the maine auditorium and an overflow room trump visited after the speech. many in this retirement community waited for hours to get in. >> he is a doer. >> i think he is terrific. he tell truth. >> reporter: not everyone who came is a supporter. >> he scares me. i want to see him. as he celebrity. >> reporter: despite causing. so controversy about john mccain's war service, some veterans here in military rich
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south carolina came to hear him. >> he just disappointed me. i wasn't offended. but i was disappointed. >> reporter: yet it's not a deal breaker. >> no. not yet. >> reporter: why is that? >> too far to go. the man has tremendous back ground. he has a great ability to delegate. he can make a decision on the spot about it also gets him in trouble. >> reporter: it does also get him in trouble. the more trouble donald trump seems to get in, the more he seems to thrive. what struck me about being at the event today, and i've been to a.m. campaign rally in my time was that he had them in the palm of his hand. you couldn't necessarily tell traditional way by watching people stand on their feet and scream and cheer like a rally. they were sitting in their seats in their auditorium. granted it was a retirement community but they were mesmerized. you could almost hear a pin drop as they watched what wasn't
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really a stump speech it was. a one-man show. >> stick around. i want to bring in political commentator, gop strategist and trump supporter kevin paul scott. so trump on the campaign trail, what do you make of it? it seem the more criticism he gets, the more forceful his attacks become. and certainly in the abc poll he is doing well. very well. >> i think donald trump adheres to the henry ford maxim of it doesn't say what they say about me as long as they are talking about me. i think he feeds off the attention. i think he is becoming enamored of the process and if possible even more enamored of himself as he runs for this. i'm getting really saddened to tell you the truth by the spectacle. i think it has become the theater of the absurd.
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and it is just not seemly. we have to remember at some point that this is running for the presidency of the united states of america. it is the most, the highest office in the land. it is to be commander in chief and i think it has turned into a spectacle, a reality showing, look, i get it. i love reality shows. everything your friend andy produces i watch. but when this is the presidency of the united states. >> kevin, let me ask but that. do you believe trump will continue to do well because voters clearly, at least the voters who come out to see them many want a candidate to stop using talking points and be frank and speak off the cuff. i have to say to donald trump's credit he doesn't come with a prepared speech that he's reading, that he's given a million times before. he's talking off the top of his head. though sometimes it gets him in trouble, it refreshing for
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people who want to go see him. >> let's be clear. a lot of what he does is completely offensive. in this day and age where most of the candidates feel more comfortable with a teleprompter and talking points than they do getting out in a town hall meeting, they look at donald trump who will tell them exactly what he thinks. and anderson, the american people love that. i think the only thing they would love more than what he's doing now is to see him get a hair cut on national television. the american people are loving it. >> there is a part of me wonders if donald trump's campaign parallels past candidates. oriole some people said well look bachmann was leading in the polls early on. at that sarah palin was leading. very powerful ideas that support gaffes weren't gaffes at all. it was a gotcha media after them. >> there are definitely parallels. let's just look at the fact on this show you did several
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keeping them honest stories. and i participated in some with bachmann that were important to hit back on some of the facts or things that she was saying that were not factual. and guess what she had some pretty successful fundraising off that. most people who already are enamored of somebody like michele bachmann the last thing they want is to hear from what they call the main stream media that the person they like is not doing something right. i think that's what those of us in the main stream media or maybe the establishment, whatever you want to call it might not always understand. those were the people there today. granted. as you heard in my piece, some people were there because he is the guy from "the apprentice" and they wants to check out a celebrity near their house. for the most part that wasn't that. they were striking a cord as someone who was an outsider who would tell it like it is.
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a lot of these candidates who are successful in their own right can't do. >> certainly in fairness to donald trump in comparing him to sarah palin and michele bachmann his speaking abilities is far greater than those two in terms of extemporaneous speaking. >> i'm glad you brought that up. the other thing is looking at the knowledge extra ektry of they have. remember herman cain. it was much more brief than donald trump. and remember people were seeing them for the first time. everybody knows who donald trump is and everybody has for decades. >> i want to play part of what jeb bush had to say. >> the people expressing support now for donald trump, they're not, they're good people. they see the world and they see the lack of rule of law.
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they see an uncontrolled border. so i respect the sentiments that they feel when they hear trump talk. >> i can imagine his response. it is about the tone. it is about this kind of divisive tone that he's using. you know trump has said this in the past already which is like all these people are talking about tone. i want to make america great. that's basically his line. and you know i think, don't you think that resonates with people? don't people get sick of moderated tone? >> i think some people and i think it may resonate with some people. the question is how long? anderson sometimes you date and you flirt with and you make out with certain people but you don't marry them because it is fun to maybe date them and flirt
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with them. >> are you getting personal here? >> i think at some point -- yeah. >> i know what you mean. >> be careful what we say! any way, i think that people are, i think the republicans at the end want to win. we want to hear an agenda. i think he is absolutely right. donald trump is tapping into the legitimate fears and frustrations that the american people have with the dysfunction in washington. when you sigh thing like the porous borders, sanctuaries, when you see things that are not working, you do have the feelings of anger. we know the congressional approval is in the single digits. he is tapping into that frustration. my question is -- where do you go from there. where do you offer solutions? >> let me ask you, you've been a strategist on campaigns and i think ana raises a good point.
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at what point does donald trump have to start giving specific solutions? >> jeb bush i'm sure if you cornered him on these issues or marco rubio, they could list off of a number of policy initiatives. they can list things happening in congress. i would be curious to know if they can do that. at what point does donald trump have to do that? >> you're right. donald trump will have to clearly outline what he is going to do. and i have no doubt that some of the aura around him will fade but you know, when you go here i love jeb bush when you hear jeb bush speak or hillary speak or john kasich speak. people are interested in hearing something new, something fresh. they're hearing it from donald trump. i think what he is going to do he is going on challenge other members of the gop to be more honest to be more frank, to go offscript a little bit. long term it will be good for the gop. what he is going to pull into it. >> an interesting perspective.
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great to have you on. >> i don't know if you can get more off script than calling someone a jack ass. >> well that's right. thank you. as always a reminder. make sure you set your dvrs so you can watch 3sky any time you want. a womaner was single to jail and later died under circumstances that led to an investigation. and show you the dash cam video. >> let's do this. >> yeah. don't touch me. >> get out of the car.
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breaking news in the sandra bland case. texas officials have released the dash cam video that many people including her family have been waiting to see. it shows the traffic stop that landed the 28-year-old woman in jail where she died three days later. her death being treated as a murder investigation according to the district attorney general. here's part of what happened after miss bland was pulled over
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for allegedly the planning to signal. >> step out of the car. >> you don't have the right. >> step out of the car. >> you don't have the right to do that. >> step out or i will remove you. >> miss bland was arrested and as we said jailed. all of this unfolding in prairie view, texas. first, ryan young joins us from prairie view to show how he got to this point. >> a lot of family members are very upset not this. the family lawyer saw this yesterday and he said he didn't see anything on the tape that would lead to an arrest. he also had a chance to go inside the actual jail cell where sandra bland was staying and where authorities say she hung herself. we walked through. we can see food left there. already starting to mold. the trash bag in the corner
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where they said that was the same kind of liner that she used the wrap her neck. people want to know what happened to miss bland. tonight, newly released surveillance video from outside the jail cell where 28-year-old sandra bland died raising more questions about her death. >> this investigation is still being treated just as it would be a murder investigation. >> reporter: bland was found unresponsive in her jail cell three days after she was arrested for allegedly assaulting a police officer during a routine traffic stop. police say she hanged herself with a plastic bag and have ruled it a suicide. the texas rangers and fbi are investigating. there were no cameras inside the cell but surveillance video showed no one entering or leaving before her body was discovered. a county sheriff's official said bland refused a breakfast tray around 6:30 sxam responded to a jailer conducting rounds around
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7:00 a.m. saying "i'm fine." >> she was on the intercom saying i want to make a phone call. i can't do it in here. okay? and then i believe it was like 8:56 a.m. is when the female jailer walked back here. looks in to ask her if she wants to go out in the recreation yard. >> reporter: surveillance video shows officers checking on bland and calling for emergency response. she was pro announced dead a short time later. >> there's a lot more questions than answers. >> reporter: bland family attorney ken lambert said he was able to identify glitches and jumps in the video which use motion activation. he questions what if any medical attention she received when she was booked. he wants to know what is in the arrest report? bland's family says there is no way she would have committed suicide. >> seven days later. i still don't know what happened to my baby sister.
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>> reporter: them there is deep tissue bruising to her back. what he said is consistent to 51 having kneed her in the back. the arresting officer has been placed on administrative duty. and people who las talked on her including a bail bondsman says there are questions that need to be answered. >> it needs a thorough and exhaustive review. it will go to the grand jury. >> in addition to the jail cell what did they tell you? >> reporter: we were here for a news conference and she said that initial traffic stop, that officer has been put on administrative leave because they believe there were some violations within that traffic stop. one of the thing that we heard over and over. you have to remain professional during a traffic stop and they believe the officer may have stepped out of his bounds. that still doesn't answer what happened.
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>> has the police department said anything about the dash cam video? >> reporter: no. we got that dash cam video just after the conference. they said they stated over and over again. there were violations there and they would deal with that officer. they said they need to address those issues during that pullover. >> we appreciate it. we'll dig deeper on the breaking news. we'll ask our legal and law enforcement expert what they make of it. we'll show you more of it. how this altercation began.
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three days after the traffic stop, the 28-year-old who just moved to the area for a new job is found dead in her jail cell. she was pulled over for allegedly failing to signal before changing lanes. here's what happened next. >> okay, ma'am. are you okay? >> you. this is your job. i'm waiting on you. >> you seal very irritated. >> i am. i don't know what i'm getting a particular for. i was getting out. your way speeding up. i moved over and you stopped.
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that doesn't stop you from giving me a ticket. >> are you done? >> you asked me what's wrong and i told you. so now i'm done. yeah. >> okay. do you mind putting out your cigarette, please? >> i'm in my car. why do i have to put out my cigarette? >> you can step out now. >> i don't have to step out. >> step out of the car. step out of the car. >> you don't have the right. >> step out of the car. >> you do not have the right to do this. >> i do have the right. step out or i will remove you. >> i refuse to talk to you. >> step out or i will remove you. >> i am getting removed for a failure -- >> step out or i will remove you. i am giving you a lawful order. get out of the car now. or i'm going to remove you. >> i'm calling my -- >> i'm going to yank you out. >> you're going on yank me out. my car? all right. let's do this. >> we're going to. >> don't touch me.
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>> get out of the car. >> don't touch me. i'm not under arrest. >> you are under arrest. >> i'm under arrest for what? >> send another unit. get out of the car. get out of the car. now. >> why am i being apprehended? i said get out of the car. >> why am i being apprehended? >> i'm going to drag you out of here. >> you're going to dralg drag me out of my own car. >> get out of the car! get out. now! get out of car. >> for failure to signal. >> get over there. >> right. yeah. let's take this to court. for failure to signal. for failure to signal. >> get off the phone. >> the authorities said she hanged herself in her jail cell. the district attorney said the case is being treated as a murder investigation. i want to talk about this with a legal analyst. they're both former prosecutors. a former police officer with a
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senior analyst harry houck. when you look at this does the officer have the right to ask her to get out of the car and then try to physically remove her from the vehicle when she doesn't want to? >> yes. what a lot of people don't understand a summons is in lieu of an arrest. we do it to keep the jails from being filled up. the fact is an officer can make an arrest for any time you run a red light, a parking ticket anything. what did he he noticed that she was agitated. the one problem i have is the fact that he told her to get out of the car because she wouldn't stop smoking. whether or not that was a reason why he pulled her out, it sort of looks like that. >> it seemed like he got annoyed. he was annoyed initially at her attitude and -- >> she was annoyed. >> she was annoyed. and then she refused to stop smoking. >> was it justifiable for him to say get out of vehicle? >> i don't think so. the bottom line i often tell people when i teach street law
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or otherwise, when you have a police encounter, you want to make it as short and sweet as possible. if an officer is telling you to put your cigarette out, you best be sure you put your cigarette out. i don't think ted right to ask her to get out of the car. because not putting out your cigarette is not cause for an arrest. >> but you have to comply with whatever as a prosecutor you must comply with a police officer. whether he is right or wrong. you must comply and then you go after -- >> should you comply. >> and then you'll deal with the system and you'll deal with an attorney -- >> i agree should you comply but grounds for arrest is not failing to put your cigarette out. >> very true. >> let me bring you into this. obviously this is separate from whatever happened in jail cell. whether it was suicide or something else. we'll talk about that in a moment. in terms of how thofser behaved and how she behaved, it seemed
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like there were opportunities for de-escalation from both of them all throughout this. >> you're absolutely correct. i agree with harry. the officer may have had the right to make a full custodial arrest. it is not how i would have hand it. the officer seems to have gotten angry when she refused to put out her cigarette. as far as i know it is not against the hau to smoke in your vehicle in texas. he got angry. when she did not comply it escalated. he had a right to write her a citation. you see the prior traffic stop where he gave somebody a warning and everything was nice and cordial. in this case it looks like the officer got upset and that's what escalated the situation. from there, of course it went to faull custodial arrest. and you make very good point. this video and wham in this traffic stop is an entirely separate and distinct issue from the circumstances surrounding her death. >> i think we need to make it clear this officer made it clear that he was giving her a
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warning. if you see the video in its entirety which i have and you have. so he was not going to give her a summons. so this was never going to be a custodial arrest. the bottom line is he lost his cool. the police officer is supposed to be the professional. >> in terms of what happened in that jail cell there are postings that she apparently made back in march where she talked about battling depression talked about post-traumatic stress disorder. her family says there's no way she would ever commit suicide. she had too. to live for. with all due almost to the family, and we don't know what happened oftentimes people who commit suicide seem to have everything going for them. there's no way to know what's going on in somebody's mind. >> we've had this several times. if somebody doesn't leave a note when they commit suicide or there isn't a history of some kind of psychological disorder, the family always thinks it's murder. almost all the time. and we have to explain to them it's not. usually the family is the last
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to know if there is a psychological condition as a result of committing a suicide. here we can see there's video. the whole time she was in that cell. nobody approached that cell. second of all, there were prisoners across from the cell who saw nothing and heard nothing. there would have been a heck of a ruckus if someone had tried to hang her. >> i think it is jumping to conclusions. we know the investigation is ongoing. in 2012 in this same exact county jail there was another alleged suicide. and so i think it is odd at best that you have two sue sides in the span of a couple of years in the same county jail. but if you look at the statistic statistics statistics suicides are at a three time higher rate than general population. so we are seeing a number of suicides in county jails. >> and there are a lot of
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suicides in jails. it happens all the time. >> the fact these are two sufficient separate incidents. the incident that got her into custody in the first place. if one was making the argument it was the officers who brought her there and her suicide happened right away, that would be very us is that i shall. it doesn't seem like there's any reason to think officers the prison or jail employees would have any motive for wanting her to in any way be harmed. >> that's absolutely correct. and once again, harry is correct. it seal like i'm always agreeing with harry. >> you are. >> nobody approached that jail cell. we know about eight8:00 in the morning, she was in her cell and presumably alive and well. and about an hour slaert when she was found hanged to death. if nobody approach that's cell during that time and there's
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nobody in the cell with her, i am perfectly fine concluding in all likelihood -- >> it is too soon to make a conclusion. the fbi is going to look at the video. >> were there any cuts? >> a possibility. i see -- >> i think the 63key is a trans parent investigation. she deserves it. thank you very much. just ahead, more breaking news. a terrorist leader with a $7 million bounty on his head is now dead. plus new information about the chattanooga gunman and the sim sympathies. ♪ the staff at this beautiful resort . . . will stay with you forever. ♪ especially if you don't leave. ♪ you got it booking right. booking.com booking.yeah across america, people are taking
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there is one less terror leader in the world right now. he had a $7 million bounty on his head. a u.s. air strike got him this month. what's the latest you know about exactly who this guy was and the mission that killed him?
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>> well, muhsin al fadhli the u.s. believes was the leader of the khorasan group, the al qaeda offshoot operating for the last many years in northern syria. very violent group. the u.s. had been looking for him for a long time. the khorasan group had vowed to attack the united states and western interests. this is a guy who was a key al qaeda operative. one of the few that the u.s. says had been given advance notice of the 9/11 attacks and then in october 2002 involve in other attacks against u.s. marines in kuwait and a french merchant ship. somebody they had wanted to get. and khorasan is a group that might have had the bail to reach out and attack the u.s. they had bomb makers. they knew how to make bombs. this is a group tuesday had been going after for quite some time. so getting al fadhli a big kill. >> is much known about the organizational structure of this group? and how big a setback it would
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be with this guy out of the picture? >> well the pentagon said it would be a big setback for al qaeda. not a lot publicly known about the group over the many months other than be they tried to have strikes against some of the key leaders there. not at all clear who is still in syria, fully operating on behalf of the khorasan group. i think one of the most interesting things here right now is they killed him in a drone strike in northern syria in a vehicle he was riding in. that says a lot about u.s. intelligence in northern syria. they knew he was there at the time they fired and they took shot. >> the fact that they were able to get this guy in syria. they were eavesdropping on him, they had human intelligence we don't know. but it is hopefully worrying to this group. >> to them and to isis. i have to tell you.
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northern syria right now, vex in the cross hairs of u.s. intelligence. they are doing stepped up air strikes everywhere they can find. either khorasan now or isis operatives. they are stepping up the intelligence gathering, working with local kurdish forces on the ground. all the indications are we will see a lot more. for a long time it was off limits. maybe no more. >> thank you so much. as chute chute prepares to bury five service members, new information about the gunman and his influences. signs he had sympathies for another the leader. and actions from time in jordan. details from gary tuchman who joins us. what is the information about first of all, the gunman's uncle in jordan. >> reporter: we know abdulazeez
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was in jordan last year. they want to see if he was radicalized there. the mother and father are saying they wanted behind to go to jordan. they said his life was in a downward spiral in the u.s. they thought co-right himself with relatives in jordan. he worked for an uncle and tonight that uncle is being detained. he has not been able to leave. he's being questioned. he has not been accused of any wrongdoing but he cannot leave. interrogation rules and laws in jordan are different than in the united states and jordanian authorities and united states authorities are not saying anything about that. >> and there are still a lot of questions about whether the killer was radicalized, whether he had contact with the group. what have you learned about that? >> reporter: the parents have told us in his weak moments, they said he got into evil ideology. they don't believe he talked on
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any outsider about being a terrorist. however they did say, some writing after 2013 when he was arrested after, not when he was arrested but fired from his job at a nuclear power plant where he was fired. he referred to anwar al aleaki. he was a cleric who lived in yemen. notorious, one of the top recruiters and according to the family their son had an affinity for him and some of his the writings made sense to him. so that's an important thing investigators will look. a they say through this he mention nod other names in any of the writings or searches and didn't talk about any in terrorist groups like al qaeda. >> that he himself was radicalized, and imprisoned and when he got outering dedicated
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himself to fighting extremism. a great read. this new information about this killer allegedly agreeing with some of the anwar al alicki. >> yes, it does sound like that. the evidence points to that. unless something surprising happens, it would appear to be that he was influenced by in particular al qaeda's the mode of operation. if we remember back to what now appears to be the old days of global jihadism awlaki advised followers in the west and in particular in the united states to instigate these sorts of atrocious attacks themselves. the concept of lone wolves who stand up they may be
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operationally alone but not ideologically alone. to attack unsuspecting bystanders. and this may be the case, what this terrorist has done. >> drew griffin talked to a close friend of his who was sort of a mentee of this guy. said he dismissed isis when talking to a friend but that doesn't rule out that he may have had other extremist views. in fact the friend said in the last couple days he seems happier than ever before. this is a guy doing computer searches on martyrdom. that might have explained the happiness in the final days. >> first of all, condemning isis doesn't necessarily put us in good company. al qaeda itself condemn isis as do all other global jihadist organizations. because isis declares itself their leader and they don't
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recognize that. so that doesn't mean one is somehow a moderate. that term has become so relative. it depends upon one's starting point that it has become meaningless. so i don't think that means that. the family has claimed depression. others have other theories drug abuse, alcohol abuse. it is important to look at the way ideology can be used to weaponize people or who may have grievances through western foreign policy. what's the difference? between someone who commits suicide and someone who commits innocent people. and that's where the ideology kicks in. by seeking martyrdom, by killing others the understanding of jihad they have he believed he would atone for his sins and go straight to paradise. certainly his writings would seem to indicate that's the
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case. >> you believe if we shouldn't necessarily be looking the a what group might have inspired him if any. rather an islamist extremist. as a whole. especially when it comes to lone wolves. >> yes. i think counter terrorism operationally is very much concerned with which group. that affects operations and tactics in targeting those groups. i think from a civil society perspective, it is erroneous for us to worry too much about whether it was isis or al qaeda. if it indeed was a jihadist attack. what we should be worried about is a misnomer over the course of the last five years. this term al qaeda inspired extremism. i've said al qaeda didn't inspire extremism. it was extremism that inspired al qaeda and then isis after it. even if we deal with isis we'll have many other groups as long as we don't deal with the jihadist ideology which has reached the scale. i'm delighted that the british
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the coast of south africa during the surfing competition. it was captured all on live tv. here's what the cameras missed. a still photographer captured this moment when he got back on land. now we have new insight on the fear he faced when he faced the shark. >> reporter: the professional surfer mick fanning never saw the black fin as it appeared out of nowhere. >> all of a sudden i just felt something, a presence or something behind me. that's when i jumped on my board. and it just sort of came up and went for the time of my board. i don't know. i don't know why it didn't bite. it just kept coming back. i was on top of it trying to put my board in between us. as the wave went my board was
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sort of off and i was trying to get to my board. then it came back again. that's when i just tried to just position myself away from it to the side of it. it was just right there. i don't know if i punched it hard or little baby punches. my leg rope broke. just as it started going. do i get off my board or swim for shore? at that stage, i was just screaming. >> reporter: fanning was terrified but also in awe of the great white. >> i felt so insignificant. like the thing was so powerful and was it just moved so fast. >> reporter: as he finally swam away he paused for a look into the eyes of the deadly shark. >> if this is going to come at me i'll going to have a look at
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it. so i turns around. i was on my back and waiting for it. i had my fist pumped and ready to see what was going to go. and luckily it didn't come. by that stage, the boats and the jet skis were on top of us. someone was looking out for me. you know? to walk away from a shark attack with not a scratch on you, it's like it's a miracle. i spoke to different people. i had dinner with a guy who had been talked three times. and it was just like yeah. you don't know. you count your lucky stars. and if there is someone looking after us thanks. it was so close. i'm doing okay. i haven't got a scratch on me. it is more of an emotional, mental sort of trauma right now.
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and it will probably take i don't know. a couple weeks, months i don't know. i don't know how long it will take but i'm just lucky. >> lucky and forward to surfing again. rani kaye cnn. a lot more happening tonight. amber walker has the 360 bulletin. >> an appeals court has overturned five of the 18 corruption charges against rod blagojevich. they were linked to trying to secure a cabinet position in the white house in exchange for appointing. he said he should remain in prison while new legal action plays out. apple stock has fallen 8% this afterhours trading after the company reported it sold fewer iphones than expected in the past three months and offered a weak outlook for the current quarter.
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