a gunman opens fire in a packed movie theater in louisiana. some life threatening injuries and some dead including the 58-year-old male shooter. >> we do know the identity of the shooter. we are not releasing it at this time. we're right in the middle of the investigation and don't tonight affect the investigators' ability to do their job. >> 20 minutes into a the show offing of "train wreck" the scene turned into something from a horror movie. a lone white male stood up and began. shooting a handgun into the audience. >> we saw a lady with blood all over her leg. i grabbed my towel and we all ran. >> police were dispatched at 7:30 central time. witnessed described the terrifying ordeal as something

like a war. gunshot after gunshot as patrons fled the theater for safety. >> bobby jindal praise inging the heroism of two teachers members in the audience. >> was one shot she jumped over her and saved her life. if she hadn't done that her friend got shot that bullet would have hit her in the head. the second one, the one whose life was saved, she had the presence of mind to pull the fire alarm to help save other lives. >> and actress amy schumer who stars in the film took to twitter to express sympathy. my heart is broken and all my thoughts and prayers are with everyone in louisiana. >> we know negotiators are fanning out. they know the identity of the gunman. obviously, they have been working throughout the night to

piece together the motive here. in just a short while, police and governor of louisiana will be holding another briefing to update the situation here. we'll bring that to you as well. >> we are going o to get you the latest information. obviously, we're examining lafayette louisiana, on its own and what drove this man to do something so terrible. but also as a little bit of a window into a recent pattern, let's get to know what we know and how this fits into what we have been seeing too much of. . >> he does fit the profile. there are so many cases to sake a look at. let's start here. this is a shooter who was 58 years old. this is a a 58-year-old white male. he has some kind of criminal

history. we know that police said police cannot interview the shooter. they will be talking to friends and family members trying to get some understanding of what could motivate something as horrific as this. if you look at the data because we see so many of these mass shootings in this country you'll see the other ways this shooter falls in line. it clearly shows overwhelmingly the shooters in these cases are white people followed by blacks asians and latinos. asian shooters high compared to the population. moving on, another man to the list of mass shooters. these are faces of all men overwhelmingly talking about male shooters in these cases. people waking up and asking why would somebody go into a movie theater where people are are watching a film and open fire. this what happened just three

years ago in colorado is this somebody who was in sick way inspired by that shooting that investigators will be asking. we're coming up on the three-year anniversary and this is the case that's been in the news. this is somebody who was convictioned by a jury a week ago. it isn't the face we want to look at this morning. we want to talk about the people inside that theater. we hope to learn more about them later this morning. >> this man does size up as things seen in the past. >> from awhile back. >> did that figure into the access of the weapon? louisiana's laws specifically lenient in this area. it's about having a license. >> all of these things will be factors that we'll be looking into so we thought we'd bring in a former detective who is a familiar face here on "new day" to talk about this work that

investigators and specifically detectives will have. what is going to be key for them right now? these are early hours following this shooting. >> you can see they delayed identifying the shooter is so they could execute a search warrant. we have seen where they set up hand grenades and home made bombs so that's something law enforcement has to be careful of. and as investigators looking looking at social media. manifestos online like we saw with dylann roof that might lead to the motive. the means, opportunity and motive are the three things investigators will put together. the motive is going to be the big question mark here. any investigators have going to strug struggle with that. find out what made him tick. >> you have an active crime scene. not just within the theater for

obvious reasons, but the car became an item of interest. the trunk in the package, we're hearing from governor. jindal that there's activity at a motel he may have been staying at. these are rel vabt because you want to make sure you understand the end point was. >> they had had these things. there's a treasure-trove of information into what they are thinking. >> we look at these situations we have seen with these mass shootings. the work of investigators to put that emotion aside and look at this individual case. yet there are parallels. another white man, but a 58-year-old. does that point to something else? >> this is definitely an

outliar. whatever type of terrorism you're dealing with you can't rule that out off the table either. >> what happened in the theater is also different than aurora. one of the points of curiosity is why did he stop shooting? there's an account that the police came in as he took his own life. then you have the suicide aspect. why did he do that. the governor also suggest z that this may have tried to make a break for the exit as people were running out. but the big point of curiosity will be why did he stop shooting when he did. >> they got there very quickly and he was faced with the the fact of police or taking his life. these people do kill themselves. it doesn't provide closure for

anybody. >> what was interesting is it wasn't a situation that was drawn out. this happened very rapidly. when we talked to the eyewitnesss that we were talking to they were watch inging the previews, he stands up and starts firing. by the time the police came, he turned the gun on himself. to see this happen so quickly, it makes it terrifying but it also makes the work more intense in a way, if you will, because there's less inter. actions with people. it makes the work that much more. difficult. >> when you have no comments, we have seen this before with dylann roof. we don't have any of that. so this is something that very important for investigators to dig into his background to find out what's going on. >> people get frustrated with us sometimes and say what do i care why he did it. to help us understand why things happen matter to investigations because it winds up changing the portfolio of what factors you put into stopping things the

next time. if he was a manifesto guy. >> we don't know why we can't stop. it. >> that's why they want to know why because it's going to affect how you stop it the next time. somebody to give us information is governor jindal. he traveled to the theater within hours and giving moral support as well as information. he's joining us live from lafayette. your head and heart are with the people from your state there. you have said a couple things this morning that expand our unction understanding that there's an active investigation of a motel where this man may have been set up and there's a suggestion he may have tried to make a run for it during the actual event and what stopped him. what can you tell us? >> absolutely, so it appears that his intent was to try to sneak out with the crowd. two things stopped him. local police were on the scene almost instantaneously. they happened to be nearby when the calls came in. they could still hear the gunshots as they ran toward the

theater. he was trying to sneak out with the crowd. his car was positioned by the exit. he went back into to the theater and shot and killed himself. law enforcement has processed the car, the hotel room. secondly there were amazing acts of heeroism in. inside that theater. we're going to learn more of these as we continue to talk to the witnesses and those that have been injured as well as others in the theater. there were two teachers there on just a a summer break. last days of summer going to see a comedy, get ready for school. one teacher jumped in front of her friend potentially saving her life. the second teacher said the bullet was coming for her head if her friend hadn't jumped on top of her. she had the presence of mind to pull the fire alarm. who knows how many live she is saved by doing that. . she was released from the hospital last night. just an awful scene. you had families rushing back from summer vacations searching last night going to the hospital

to figure out whether it was their loved one that had been injured. an awful, awful night. it brings out the best in some people. it also makes us very angry. this is a time to grieve, but it also makes us angry when these senseless acts of violence happen. this is a time to love these families, a time to pray for these families. we have been getting messages of support from all over the country. i know lafayette will get through this. we're going to have to explain to our kids why bad things happen to good people but we'll get through this. >> lafayette, not used to being exposed to a big city. this is 120,000. you saw it in action last night whether they were calling 9/11 steps out of the theater themselves which helped the response time or taking a bullet

for a friend. >> i saw friends that quickly came to the hospital. they heard the rumors one of their friends had been shot. they weren't leaving until they could see their friend or a doctor could tell them they were okay. they were going to sit there for hours. lafayette is a great community of faith and family. we are an hour west of baton rouge on interstate 10. a theater is blocks away from the university of louisiana. so very normal community, very normal part of town. this could be anywhere usa. that's what's shoo shocking. when you hear b about these incidents, you never imagine it will happen in your backyard. this shows it can happen anywhere literally anywhere. you never want it to happen. when one family is hurting we're all hurting. these events pull us together. a lot of folks understandably

very angry the. the police have talked to the gunman's relatives. there's never a good explanation. . in this case the explanation will be less than in other cases base the on what they learned by talking to family members and processing that hotel room and car. there's never any good explanation, but it's not like -- i just think this is going to be a frustrating and ran dam act of violence. >> we're going to wait on the presser to find out what authorities want to tell us. ruling things out, no terror connection. no manifesto known at this point. is there a specific beef this man went in looking for somebody? >> it does not appear it was specific. again, i don't want to do anything to impede the law enforcement. we'll be sharing more in just several minutes.

it does not look like he went there to target specifically. but they are still in the process of processing additional evidence. tail have more to say. it doesn't bring loved ones back but we're all searching and thinking you'd like to think there was some explanation. if it's predictable, there was something to do to protect yourself. tragically i've got three young kids and they go to movies all the time. you're not going to stop doing that. but if it were more predictable, maybe we could take steps to protect our loved ones. it looks like there's not going to be a satisfying explanation as they have gone through his documents and talked to family members. they'll have more to share, but it doesn't look like there will be anything near a satisfying explanation. >> as the leader of that state

and a man who wants to lead the country, the question becomes what do you do to make it less likely to happen again? what directions does that point you in? does this have to deal with guns and changing the law? in your state, the policies are more on the lenient side or is this about culture? which direction does the question point you in? >> i think there will be plenty of time to argue that and figure that out. i'm sure plenty of folks will have their opinions. at this point right now, the most important thing to do is to love these families help those wounded recover, make sure the police have everything they need to process the evidence to figure out as much as they can about this shooter. this is a time for healing. there will be a time for those debates and that will be a good debate and good discussion for folks to have. right now, we have a grieving community. right now, you have folks in the process of coming back from out of state and some tragic instances have it bury a loved one or comfort wounded relatives

and friends. let's give these families all the love and thoughts and prayers we can. that's what we need right now the most. the owner announced he's going to be setting up a fund to benefit the families. let's love these families. >> that information will be important to get out so we'll be in touch with your office to pass that along. families of victims often want most is change so nobody has to live what they are living through again. governor thank you very much. we'll pick up with you at the presser. thank you for giving us information this morning. we're sorry about the loss to your state. >> thank you very much. thank you the prayers. >> we will get to that press conference in a moment. president obama has been brief briefed on the louisiana shooter while en route to kenya. in an interview he gave just yesterday before the shooting he spoke about gun violence in america and the biggest frustration of his presidency. michelle kosinski is in nairobi and joins us now.

>> reporter: so while he's traveling here where security has been a concern, he's being briefed about another violent attack within the united states. when you look at his agenda wanting to do more on gun control versus congress's feelings on that at the moment, to say that is an uphill battle would be an enormous understatement. we heard him sit down and talk about this frustration with the bbc. it's not the first time we have heard him be so outspoken on this issue lately because the attacks keep happening. he said these things only hours before we heard that it had happened yet again, listen. >> one area i feel that i've been most frustrated and most stymied is the fact that the united states of america is the one advanced nation on earth in which we do not have sufficient common sense gun safety laws.

even in the face of repeated mass killings. >> the president frustrated with dealing with massacre after massacre. there's a presser going on right now with the sheriff. let's listen in. >> behind me our response was almost immediate. there were two police officers who were actually on this property all the the time the incident occurred. they were able to make entry. met quite a few people coming out. as they made their u way into the crowd, they heard a shot. and upon entering the theater, the suspect was found deceased from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. numerous people wounded were

located. we also located a deceased female and immediately began first aid. they were here within six minutes to transport to local hospitals. our shooter is john russell houser. he's a white male 59 years of age. he previously resided in the state of alabama. he's kind of a drifter. he's been in lafayette since early july as far as we can tell. he was staying at a local motel on university avenue. we served a search warrant at 4:30 this morning. he was driving a 1995 blue lincoln continental.

we found wigs and glasses and disguises in his room. his vehicle had a switched license tag on it. it was parked right outside an exit door of the theater. it is apparent that he was intent on shooting and then escaping. what happened is that the quick law enforcement response forced him back into the theater, at which time he shot himself. no devices were found in his vehicle. no devices were found in the theater. as far as we know one handgun is involved. that weapon has been recovered. it appears that at least 13 rounds were fired during the time he was in the theater discharging the weapon.

our victims are a white female 21 years of age. she died on scene. jillian johnson, a white female 33 years of age, died at the hospital. of the nine victims hospitalized two have been released one victim remains in critical condition. the quick response by law enforcement is believed to have prevented further deaths. we are appealing to the public to contact law enforcement if they feel they may know this shooter or have had contact with him because at this point we have very little information about him. we want the public to call this number. 337-291-8650 that is a direct line into our investigation section and a 24/7 hour number

and a person will be answering calls. we ask if you have any information about mr. howser to please contact law enforcement. our crime scene technicians worked throughout the night to process the scene. as you can imagine, it's pretty horrific. it's a large area to process for physical evidence. a lot of people upon exiting the theater left a lot of possessions behind so we recovered keys and purses and shoes and whatnot. we're still working inside the theater. a crime scene is still doing some work in there. the theater has been made safe. there's no devices. we haven't detected any devices. we have not found that mr. howser was working with anyone or associated with anyone. we haven't had any other threats

at any other theaters. for now this theater is closed until we can do all of the work we need to do here to try and piece together what happened. we will continue to update you throughout the day with any information that we come up with. you want to turn it over to colonel mike edmondson with the louisiana state police to give a recap of his office's involvement in this investigation. >> i want to praise the efforts of chief kraft and his men and the technicians here the ambulances. like you heard the governor say last night, as the danger was taking place last night, they went into it because they were worried about the individuals in

tlp there were at least 100 people interviewed. a few more were in the theater itself. . i think it's going to be easy at this moment to speculate. we are in a movie theater. why did he come here? we don't know that. here's a a guy that was a drifter, like the chief said that happened to be in the theater and took two beautiful lives. don't lose sight that these individuals individuals had a name a vision a future. it wasn't to die horribly in this theater. let's remember that as we put information out there. we'll try to get you the facts as we get them. he was in a local hotel. the police have been to the hotel and his house in alabama. we have talked to his friends and family. that's why e we didn't release the information because we didn't want to put other police officer hs in harm's way.

it happened at 7:30 last night and here we had the possibility of the car having some type of explosive devices in it. we didn't know it was in the trunk. we actually remotely went inside that car and had to blow out the win windows and open up the trunk portion. we did that by a robot because we didn't want police officers to get hurt. we went into the theater. there was three objects that concerned us. we were able to x-ray the objects, deem them safe and clear the scene. so a situation with 13 gunshots fired, a lot of different scenarios taking place, we were able to turn that back over to the lafayette police department where you have the technicians inside the building right now trying to assess and find each one of those shells.

maybe there's a motive in determining how we went into the theater, but him coming out and seeing the police arriving put him back in there to where he ended his life. he could have come out and done additional harm. but to put a motive to it is something we can't do right now. you need to know that. we're going to support the lafayette police department. we're going to help them with our detectives. i think when you look at what happened here within minutes police weren on the scene. >> we're getting more information. it's been interesting to hear from officials that the threat is no longer at all. the threat has been subsided. we know the name of the individual now. this man has been identified as a drifter that is not from the area. originally from alabama. he took two young women's lives, a a 21-year-old woman and a 33-year-old woman died later at the hospital. >> good news and frustrating news out of the headlines.

police don't have a why here. it wasn't a domestic abuse. no man fesifesto. he's not from lafayette. he's 59 years old. they are asking people to reach out to them. you can go. online to find the access number for police. then the other head line is that because of the quick police response, which was a function of them being proximate, nearby in the area and people were calling 9/11 when the shots fired. they believe this it man planned to fire and exit, to flee. he let off 13 rounds. but when the cops showed up he was forced back inside the theater and wound uptaking his own life. >> they are crediting the immediate response for saving lives here. we'll have more after a break. stay with us.

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we are watching this break news. a shooter in the lemieux vee theater. the shooter has been identified at 59-year-old john russell houser. police called him a drifter originally from alabama. they don't believe he was in the area long. they also say they believe he was intent on escaping after

opening fire. instead he took his own life after killing two young women in the theater. this tragedy brings once again the issue of gun violence to the front. let's bring in the host of cnn. we had other topics to talk to you about today. all things going on burks this has to take a front seat. everybody in lafayette is thinking this could be and bobby jindal said it this could be anywhere usa. is this going to change the conversation on gun violence in the united states? >> no maybe for a day or so. it's much like a presidential debate in that one side or the other will get a bump from the numbers and then it dissipates. it dissipates because people are so firmly entrenched either in the category of gun control or more rights or gun owners. even in the aftermath of newton nothing changed. there was data that suggested

still those who wanted to protect gun rights in this country had an edge. >> people believed it was a a better answer to have more people with guns than it is to take guns away. what do you think of this first line of pushback. do you think it's a hedge? people want change. >> it's a hedge. i was sitting in the green room and that was a pun. this is the appropriate time with full deference to the victims to have that kind of conversation. if we're not having it today, we'll be back to trump by sunday. >> it's interesting because we talked about these community, beautiful towns that have seen this kind of violence marred. they are pristine communities. we have seen this time and time again. there was change. there was change about the con

fed rat flag. not about guns. there was change and rapid change on getting that flag removed from the state house. . >> what occurs to me is we're giving this a lot of coverage and deserves a lot of coverage. i spent july 4th in chicago. 10 people died, a 7-year-old boy lost his life. day in and day out, i think the accurate data is 300 people are shot better than 90 of them will die. we're so used to that -- >> fewer people die from terrorism in this country. the president made that point. >> it's about the fear. and it's about the high value situation. statistically, these mass shootings are a fraction of a percentage of the overall gun violence in this country. a lot of people say if you care so much why aren't you in chicago. that's about people getting guns illegal illegally. >> if you think an incident like this will cause the american people to say sudden lyly we

finally need gun control, we have too many weapons and too lax of restrictions compare edd to other wealthy nations. don't forget those who will call me on the radio in a half hour and will say what a shame that no one in that theater killed him. >> then we go back to what we have been struggling with this moral question of what is this? we look at other nations. we see things happen. it isn't to the extent. we talk about this first world nation and this advanced society we have. yet why is it that there is such angst. that we feel the answer is to reach for a gun. and to stick it to the man. >> my answer would be that -- burdened by language the talks of a well-regarded militia. that's what sets us apart. there are too many weapons in society. i believe in the right of people who should have them to own a firearm. i'm one of them. but we become much, much too lax. there's not a vetting process. >> is the gun an excuse for the

culture? here's why i say that. i own a shotgun. there's no chance of me in my disposition and what i believe about violence that i'm going to get angry and i'm going to use it. our culture of violence sif fuses everything that happens. it's what we value in people and stars and celebrities, that culture of violence has to be as big a part of the equation as the method someone uses. >> it's a contributing factor but culture knows no borders in an internet world. everybody is watching the same movies today. >> then why is there more violence here? any metric you want to use? >> i don't know the data supports that. as compared to wealthy nations, i looked at data assembled from. harvard on that issue because i wanted to know. e he disputes that. when you throw in third world

nations, i think it skew it is and we look more violent. >> thank you for joining us. >> always smart and helpful. to be sure you have to watch him and hear him. especially talking about something that invades our culture. we're just getting new details about who the gunman was, how many times he wanted to fire what his real plan may have been. we'll take you to the scene. for the latest. stay with us.

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police have identified the shooter in the movie theater shooting in lafayette last evening. there's a picture of the man on the screen. he's identified as a drifter named john russell houser, 59 years old, originally from alabama. had only been in the lafayette area since july. they have understood that he was staying at a local motel. they have now processed the scene of that motel. they have found his vehicle as well, which e he apparently positioned outside the theater. he was intent on fleeing not

only because of the position of the car but they found disguises such as wigs. he was prevented from doing that when police arrived on scene he took his own life. a congressman joins us now. and we also know congressman, lafayette is your hometown. your heart must be heavy today. >> it is my hometown. and permly my wife and i, we have all been to that movie theater many times. it's a close knit community. and we're all grieving. this is a terrible tragedy. the key now is to really put the pieces together. we need to get the facts and understand what happened. the facts are starting to emerge about who this person was. he obviously was not from our community. he came from out of state.

we don't know much about his criminal record how he got the gun, what were his motives. these are the kinds of things we need to learn. >> law enforcement is working very quickly and their response was immediate. they are saying that may have saved many more lives. as were the actions of two teachers who acted as heeroes. they were able to both sound aalarm to get people out of the area. it's those stories that will help people believe there's still good in the world in light of something like this. the quest for answers is so important. tell us about the resilience of the people of lafayette. it's going to take time to heal. >> lafayette has a where people have a very positive outlook. it's a very open city very diverse city. it's a college town and we take a lot of pride in working hard

playing hard and also family. and this kind of situation is something we never expect to happen in our community. the fact is it has. and we're going to learn. we're going to understand. i think people will be forthcoming in trying to be as helpful as possible. the fact is let's get all the details that we can learn on the table and pull together. right now my heart goes o out to the victims and families. we all know each other. my town has a lot of personal ties. it's very hard. >> it is very difficult and it's important to focus on the victims in this situation. we know that two people have been released from the hospital. one remains in critical condition. obviously, our hearts go. to them and we're watching for updates on their conditions. e we hope they continue to improve. it's interesting that your governor just told us moments ago that the tough a part is now

we have to explain to our children why bad things happen to good people. the question goes to why this happened and why this man was able to have a gun. we don't know about the circumstances of why he was able to have a gun and how e he got that gun if he had it legally. is there a a conversation that needs to happen in our nation and state and district about our gun laws? >> it has been going on for quite some time. in louisiana, we like to hunt and fish. we value those things. those are things we do with our children. we teach our children responsible use of guns. whether it's a duck blind or deer blind. the fact is we don't know how this guy got the gun. we have gun laws. and i think the key is to figure out how you keep guns out of the hands of criminals. how do you keep these kinds of guns away from those with a

serious mental health history. and i think the governor is correct in that we will have to have those conversations with our children, but that's something that's been going on for a long time. fathers and mothers have always had to hold those kinds of conversations with their children because there's bad stuff in the world. >> it seems as though that these kinds of stories of mass shootings, of people walking into a crowded area and opening fire are happening all too frequently. and i do recognize that guns are very much a part of our culture. i come from a a place where guns are a part of hunting and the way of life. do you think you'll be part of the conversation about how we can keep those guns out of the wrong hands? >> i already have been a part of that conversation. i do believe firmly in our second amendment rights but at the same time i think much more needs to be done to strengthen our mental health system because there are deficiencies. i'm a physician.

i understand this. the fact is that's something i'm interested in. and we do have gun laws. we need to make sure that those gun laws are being followed with regard to background checks criminals and so forth. we don't know the facts in this case. the key is to get facts here and see what we can learn from them. >> you want to say thank you, congressman. our hearts are with you. thank you for joining us. we'll continue the conversation. >> thank you. we always talk about guns in these situations but it's only an extension of the hand and mind that are controlling it. that's what make s it a tough question. we'll bring in two republican consultants who represent different aspects of their party about what the candidates are saying that might make a difference in a situation like lafayette the next time. who has answers? check it out for yourself. ♪ how's it progressing with the prisoner? he'll tell us everything he knows very shortly, sir.

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>> first of all, let me just say that i almost don't want to talk politics today because it's so sad. i think it's a day we need to reflect and pray for the people of lafayette. i think that when we look at who we are going to support and vote for, one of the things we need to think about who is can been the consoler in chief. who can be the uniter and person that can hug the country when tragedies like this happen. they will happen for the next president whether it's natural disasters or manmade tragedies like last night's. i ask people to reflect on who can provide that leadership. now as far as jeb, one of the things he brings to the table is the ability to find pragmatic solutions and work with both sides. one of the big problems with this issue is that people are so deeply entrenched on one side or the other that they can't find

common areas and common ground and common sense laws to agree on. well we need somebody that can lead on that and find that smns and that common ground. >> i hear you about what matters most. i have stood with people who have been hurt and lost loved ones and i understand their pain and what it's going to be like for them to bury a loved one. however, it's a little bit of a hedge, and here's why i say that. if you talk to people who have been a victim they want for it to never happen again. often politicians will look at this and want to hold a hand instead of hold themselves to account for doing it better. and what are the ideas out there that go beyond guns? let's face it a gun is subject to the hand and the mind that controls it. that takehouse to a culture that embraces violence too much in america. how do you change that? >> that is a great question.

i think we have seen a whole string of events recently. when donald trump met with the families of the people who were murdered by illegal immigrants one of the common themes that came from the victims, the family members was that nobody was paying attention. . they didn't get the kind of attention we're seeing now about the shooting. we have seen the planned parenthood video where they are pulling apart babies and selling the parts. and we see governor o'malley apologizing for saying all lives matter. we need to have some discussion that all live dos matter whether they are in a a movie theater in louisiana, whether they are babies whether they are victims of shootings by illegal immigrants and talk about the simple basic respect for human life. i think that's very very important here as e we move forward. >> anna the respect for human life is couched and how we talk

about it. look what's making donald trump so popular right now. now that he's a mean guy. not that he is someone who is bad. he's tapping into rage and people are rallying around him about it. is that just the way we are or can we be better? >> look i think we like the spectacle aspect of it. there's a reason why all the cable networks were carrying donald trump's arrival yesterday on his jet like he was the pope coming to america for the first time. it's because he is ratings gold. he's entertaining. it's like watching a very wealthy archy bunker go off and rant and rave. people find it funny when you see donald trump give speeches. you always hear people life because the things are outrageous you can't believe they are coming out of

somebody's mouth. i think the part of it is that we are turning this process spointo a reality show. some of these guys running are boring. he is entertaining. >> it's about what entertains you. it's a bigger conversation. we're making progress and asking the right questions. how do we respect life? important thoughts to end on as we learn about yet another human tragedy. thank you very much for that. we'll take a break now. when we come back, newsroom with carol costello. new details about the man who did this terrible crime in a a movie theater in louisiana and what it means for the victims going forward. stay with us. after we are all inside for a while it gets pretty stuffy. when dad opens up the window what's the first thing he does? the tobin stance. but when we open up the windows you can see the dust floating around. there's dog hair. pollen. more work.

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good morning, i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me. we begin with breaking news. tragic news. new details in just the past few minutes about the shooting rampage inside a a lemieux vee meter. police identified the gunman. here's the police chief. >> the shooter is john russell houser. he's