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welcome to a live hour of ac 360. we begin with donald trump. in the first national cnn/orc poll since his comments trump is in the lead with 18%. jeb bush close second with 15% within the poll's margin of error followed by scott walker
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ted cruz and marco rubio. trump's tone may be rez nightsonating ruffling feathers certainly and the loudest most inflammatory voice wins trump is getting competition recently from mike huckabee who referenced the holocaust when he criticized the nuclear deal with iran. >> he is so naive. he would trust the iranians. he would take the israelis and basically march them to the door of the oven. >> well hillary clinton called the comment offensive. president obama had this to say. >> the particular comments of mr. huckabee are, i think part of just a general pattern that we have seen that is -- would be considered ridiculous if it weren't so sad.
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>> a lot to talk about with rnc communications director sean spicer he joins me. sean donald trump is pulling first place, are you comfortable with his tone calls lindsey graham an idiot, jeb bush -- >> we should keep our eye on the prize. remember we are out to win a national election. we have to minimize infighting amongst ourselves. our candidates have a right to contrast the policy. the name calling from all sides really needs to stop. we need to focus on on that that big prize which is keeping hillary clinton out of the white house. >> does the name calling work? it does get attention for a candidate. and the more it seems like we are in an age with the more outrageous statements one makes the more attention one gets. >> yeah i think there is something to be said for short term gains. but i think we in the party have to look beyond just you know winning a primary making sure we
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are going to win the white house. and so like i said i think there is a vast difference between contrasting your experience and your differences on approximatelypolicy matters with direct name calling. i think there is too much of it going on on all side. it really should just stop. >> there is obviously a huge all. excitement for this for this first gop debate. i don't think i can remember a gop debate this early on in a primary season where there is this level of excitement. people say they're most excited to see donald trump debate. what does that say to you? >> i mean i hope they tune in for a lot of reasons. we have 16 amazing candidates that will be on the stage. so we have two segments for each of the debates. the fox debachlt the cnn. hope they tune in. learn more about all our candidates. not just mr. trump. but obviously the rest of the folks on the stage and learn a little bit more about the difference that our party has with the direction that hillary clinton wants to take the country. >> it's obviously a difficult
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position sometimes for the rnc. you denton't want to show favoritism to any candidate, not the job at this point. does the rnc have position on whether it was out of line for mike huckabee to say what he said about accepting the iran deal and saying it would take the israelis and march them to the door -- >> we don't get in the middle of how people contrast policy and the language they use. the chairman and staff, we privately counsel campaigns, candidates all the time things we keep internally. each candidate is out to express themselves. how they want on policy. every once in a while some one may go over the line. usually the conversations are had internally within the family. >> you did put out a statement in the weak ofake of trump's candidates and john mccain whether he was a war hero. >> in that case senator mccain was our candidate in 2008 there were lots of questions posted to the rnc if we stood by senator
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mccain and his record as a war hero. i think we wanted to make it very clear where we as a party stood with respect to senator mccain's service record. >> the head of the rnc, said that he would look to see republican candidates to take a pledge not to run as a third party candidate. a, have any candidates pledged to do that? do you have any reason to believe donald trump who has talked about a third party candidacy would make such a pledge? >> well i hope all of the candidates would. i don't think we specifically asked them at this point. the chairman talked about it earlier today. if the is something that we definitely should take a look at. whether or not you are seeking our party's nomination or democratic party nomination, you shouldn't be seeking anyone's nomination if i don't get yours i will seek somebody else's. it doesn't have specifically to do with donald trump it has to do with any candidate. seeking the nomination. >> appreciate you being on. sean spicer.
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thank you. off awe appreciate >> appreciate it. >> ryan liza, and nina malik henderson, and maggie haberman. maggie clear the rnc doesn't want to focus obviously on trump or huckabee. can they be pleased? are they pleased where the discussion is at at this point? >> i don't think this is what people had in mind in 2013 when the republican national committee did growth and opportunity project which was an autopsy on what had gone wrong in 2012. >> very detailed. >> very detailed. there were people sally bradshaw top adviser to jeb bush halle barber and they focused on policy and tone. netherlands where i think they thought it would go. so none of this has quite gone the way they thought it would. >> it is interesting, trump went
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after scott walker over the weekend during a speech in iowa eclipsed by the mike huckabee headlines and polls. significant. a whole new battlefront within the top tier of candidates at least for trump. >> look the way he went after walker was a pretty traditional republican on republican attack. right. he said he doesn't have a great record in wisconsin. talked about job growth. roads. in terms of the quality of debate that's that's not too bad. if you are running the rnc, you can't be, too disapin theed eddisappointed by that. the problem for spicer err the rn krichltc is not where the power is in republican politics. the power is in two places. one, self-financed, popular, celebrity candidates like trump who have ability to just get their poll numbers through the roof. by didn't of their, celebrity. and two, it is in the super
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p.a.c.s, really good operatives and professionals no disrespect to your former guest. the best people in the republican party dent work at the rnc. they work for the top campaigns and super pacs, the ability to have a big if pact on the race is really diminished in the current world of super-p.a.c.s and celebrity candidates. >> interesting. really shifted. i want to talk hillary clinton. her favorability numbers in the new cnn poll they're upside down still. how big a problem is it for her at this stage of the race? i know you have written before that favorability ratings matter more for women than they do for men. >> that's right. in some ways one of the things you are seeing from republican candidates is really attacking something that really benefits women candidates. typically voters don't look at women candidates as more trust worthy. more honest. you see republican candidates really out there attacking hillary clinton on the character issue, on honesty and trust worthiness.
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i think this is linked honesty and trust worthiness on numbers linked to that favorability rating. now that you see it is upside down. you do hear from the clinton campaign they say listen once this is a real race once you see millions and millions of dollars in opposition research being dumped on the heads of other candidates that their favorability ratings will go down. their trust worthy numbers will go down as well. but so far this has been a problem for hillary clinton. sheaf will be in new hampshire tomorrow. where you see bernie sanders is very much gaining on her. he is actually one of the most well liked candidates in the field. part low that is because he is so -- partly that is because he is so unknown at this point. once people get to fill in sort of his biography and his past that might change as well. off awe maggie maggie do you think there is a chance joe biden enters the race? >> i don't. one of my colleagues wrote a story, how tremendously focused
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he is on getting past grieving his son, beau. i think there have been people around him who would look to see him run, sort of a dream for him that is going to end not how he would look it to. but of i think he is focused on many other things. >> is there any plausible scenario under which hillary clinton is not the democratic nominee. >> there is some nonzero probability. i think biden is the insurance approximately see for policy for the democratic party. the whole party organized around the hillary clinton nomination. in a way i can't remember a previous primary where there has been a front-runner as dominant in the race as she is. it hasn't happened. even al gore in 2000 wasn't as dominant. if there is some implagues, if for some reason this e-mail or something comes out about her state department tenure the clinton foundation, any of the things swirling out there, that makes her nomination not possible, i think you have people waiting very very
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quietly in the wings like joe biden, maybe john kerry, party elders who would have to swooch in and take the place, assuming that martin o'malley and the other opponents just never take off. man, i think he is the, 60%, 70% favorite. >> the clock is ticking on that. just the time that which somebody could swoop in. >> yeah talking about this implosion scenario. right. her poll numbers. look numbers you pointed out in general election have to be worrying for democrats. in terms of the democratic race still she is just you know yes, bernie sanders is attracting big crowds. and he is coming up a little bit, but she is just in such of a dchl nantominant position. hard to see how she loses this thing. again if she implodes. that's why you have you still have joe biden not definitively ruling things out. the insurance approximately see.
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>> aawe -- the insurance policy. the debate fascinating in two weeks. interesting to hear donald trump and jeb bush trying to lower expectations. jeb bush i'm any rusty. donald trump saying i have never done this before. certainly been on stage plenty of times. but you know never been in a public debate like this. i am so curious to see, obviously, he is not a very detailed you know not going to be giving a lot of specifics. maggie pointed out. not a lot of time when you have ten candidates on stage. curious to see how other candidates deal with him. do they ignore him like the, the loud guy in the party. do they take him on directly? do they tripey to demand specifics from him? i don't know. >> you had john kasich prepping for this debate is like a nascar driver prepping for a race when he knows that one of the drivers will be drunk.
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i think he is referring to donald trump. >> although donald trump, i will point out, does not drink. >> just seems like it sometimes. >> that's right. that's right. we have sueto see. if john kasich makes it. how he wants to articulate his message. get his message out there. become more well known in the country and party. not sure he will want to waste his time going after donald trump. we know what it means when you go after donald trump. >> everybody does. thank you. great talk. quick reminder set your dvr, watch "360" any time. the latest on the condition of two teachers who showed remarkable courage in the middle of the deadly theater shooting in louisiana. i'll talk to a friend who is not surprised by their quick thinking and bravery. one pulled the fire alarp. that no doubt saved lives. the initial awe temperature sees i
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charging capabilities. two louisiana communities, a scene all too familiar. two women shot dead in a lafayette movie theater were laid to rest. their death use nighting relatives, friends, even complete strangers in grief. the two were at the evening screening of "trainwreck" when a
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gunman began shooting. he fired a dozen shots before killing himself. why he chose that particular theater, still a mystery tonight. but we are learning more about the shooter and his troubled past. ryan nobles has the latest. >> reporter: a chilling picture is emerging about the man who opened fire in the grand theater in lafayette, louisiana. surveillance footage obtained by cbs news shows the shooter at his motel, just moments before he left to attend the 7:00 showing of the movie trainwreck. it was there that he sat in the back row, waited some 20 minutes until the previews ended when he began shooting killing two women and wounding nine others. this man was certainly of sound mind because you know what he wrote it down. he he said he is coming to this movie theater. 7:15 on thursday night. >> reporter: in a room in the motel 6, a few miles from the theater where the shooter documented his planned attack in his secret diary. he left his hotel trashed. what still isn't clear, why he
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chose lafayette. a town one study recently listed as one of the happiest places in america. >> i think we like it when we get a real firm answer to that question. >> reporter: he was a drifter. he lived in georgia. last year he was evicted from a house in alabama over the georgia state line. it was at a pawnshop in alabama where he legally bought the 40 caliber pistol he used in the attack. his time in lafayette was short and not much is known about what he was up to. >> we know he was trying to drum up some support for a business. we know thee was at the tie anyone seashell. >> reporter: investigators finished processing the crime scene but are still digging into the shooter's past. >> well are still interviewing people. still sending our officers out to different locations. >> reporter: as frtor the community of lafayette, residents are remembering the two lives lost and hoping to heal from a tragedy that changed their town. >> the victims would have
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brought the communities together as one. >> ryan the folks recovering do we know how they're doing? >> anderson remember at one point there were nine victims hospitalized. seven of them have returned home from the hospital. including one today. that leaves two in the hospital still. and we're told both of them are improving. anderson. >> thank you very much. the terrifying moments inside the theater there were incredible displays of brabvery. two teachers are called heroes. they teach at the same high school catching a movie together when the shooting began. she threw herself on top of ms. martin to shield her friend hit in the leg. ms. martin was wounded but managed to pull the fire alarm to alert authorities and theater workers. camy motrin is friend with both women. she joins me. thank you for joining us. you have been in touch with both women. how are they doing? >> they're doing as best they can in the situation that they were put in. with this tragedy, it's been difficult but they're both in
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the healing process. >> when you heard how quickly they both sprang into action were you surprised by that at all? >> absolutely not. both ladies are very soft hearted and they do things for others. and when it happened the first, and i heard exactly what they did, the first thing i thought about was they did everything they were trained to do. we're trained to do things like this and train for these types of situationsable. we are trained in the classroom. they just brought it outside into their personal lives into this theater on on the night that this happened. >> had they been through active shooter drills? in a classroom? >> we go through a lockdown process where we do things that we -- you know we're taught to do. not that there is an active shooter on campus but we portray there is one. we go through different drills all year long. and have been for, as long as i have been a school teacher.
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and a student. so they do everything they did everything that they were taught to do pretty much by the book. >> yeah. just incredible. one thing to learn something in a simulation to actually put night practice in the heat of the moment i mean just it's -- it's so remarkable. i know you have set up a gofundme page to help with medical expenses. can you tell me about that? >> well when this first happened. another teacher got in touch with me because i am president of the local chapter of lae, louisiana association of educators, and she said how can we raise fund to help with their medical expenses. so my first mind was, okay what is the quickest we to do it. i went on gofundme and started it. and i got a whole lot more support than i ever thought. this the educators in this nation and even overseas have been such supporters along with a whole lot of other people in
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the communities and the-- the nation. this has been a tragedy that has been positive has come out of it. >> well are going to put that address. quixly ly quickly tell me the gofundme address. www.gofundme.com and under heroic teachers. >> we'll put the link to that on the web page at ac360.com. cami thank you. appreciate you being on. >> thank you for having me. >> for more on the story and others go to cnn.com. coming up. bobbi kristina brown whitney houston's daughter dead at age 22. six months after she was found unresponsive in a bathtub in her home. what we now know about the investigation next.
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hills. the medical examiner said an autopsy completed to day does not show an obvious underlying cause of death or any significant injuries. more tests are pending. the district attorney is still deciding whether to bring criminal charges. joining me is cnn legal analyst former federal prosecutor sunny hostin and lawrence kobolinsky here in new york. does it surprise you at this point with the preliminary awe temperature see there is still no -- autopsy there is still no definitive cause of death? >> it doesn't surprise me. the incident that occurred six month as go you might expect to see some evidence in the brain of hypoxic encephalopothy. but getting back to six months prior what everybody is
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interested in is what caused her death. i think the answer is actually available. not from the autopsy, but in hospital records. there are unfortunately, or fortunately, hipa laws that protect that information. when she was brought to the hospital there are no questions there were mri's taken. toxicology reports, if there were any drugs in her system. alcohol, legal drugs, illegal drugs, something that would give us a clue that data is a available. >> sunny, you were saying based on sources you have hear you have that the family blames or believes that her boyfriend played a role in all of this? >> no question about that anderson. they have been very very consistent with that since january. they explaned to me that they felt he was being less than transparent in what happened that day. he wasn't giving them the answers that they were seeking. >> but if all of this evidence was already collected, there is not really much new evidence to
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be collected, six months is a long time for police to have investigated this no? >> that is true. that is true. although i will tell you when there is this sort of criminal investigation it is ongoing. i say that all the time. it is very very true. these are long-term investigations. you get witnesses that may not be willing to come forward early on. but afterward they are more willing to come forward. and again, nick gordon is sort of this this person that many believe in the family has those answers. yet he hasn't been able to provide any. >> professor, the testing that was already done when she was first admitted six months ago would that be included in the results of the official autopsy? >> no. no. i don't think that that information would be available to anybody, but the family at this point. and if the family wanted to release that information they probably could. but for now it's it's basically sealed. it gets more complicated because she was in a car accident a few
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days before the incident occurred. so any trauma to the body could be explained by that. >> or trauma that occurred in their attempts to save her life. >> in trying to save her, through cpr. that's right. >> sunny, the houston family filed a huge lawsuit against her boyfriend right? >> sure did. the conservator of her estate filed a multimillion dollar lawsuit against nick gordon. in the lawsuit. i have seen a copy of and read they detailed the allegations they have been telling me from the beginning. the allegations she was missing certain teeth. the allegations they had injuries to her bed that they felt were consistent with some sort of struggle with nick gordon. again this is coming from the family. you know they feel a certain way about nick gordon. they have maintained this this from the very very beginning. >> we'll see what happened. doctor great to have you. sunny hostin as well. up next a road rage confrontation caught not just on one 911 call but two, from both
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welcome back. in florida deadly road rage incident could be unfolding in not one but two 911 recordings. both drivers call for help. now on the tapes you sense the anger, the panic, and then you hear gunfire. randi kaye reports. >> reporter: those were the last word kathy gonzalez spoke before her husband was shot death. her husband, 44-year-old candelerio gonzalez was shot in front of the couple's young daughter and grandson. this is the man who shot him. 51-year-old robert doyle. the two florida men had crossed paths 2 1/2 minutes earlier during a road rage incident with each car calling 911 to report the other.
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doyle warns the operators he is heading home where he has a gun. when gonzalez tells 911 he is heading to doyle's house, the operator tells him, not to go there. he goes anyway. gonzalez can be heard yelling at doyle at the house before the shots were fired. gonzalez's wife meanwhile was pleading for police to send help. but it was too late. doyle shot gonzalez once. paused. then fired four more shots. the citrus county sheriff told us gonzalez was shot once in the chest and three times in the back. doyle fired five times. the sheriff says they believe gonzalez was hit four times. doyle's wife quickly told the dispatcher what her husband had
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done. doyle then turned the gun on gonzalez's wife. forcing her and the children out of the car until police arrived. she could do nothing to try and save her dying husband. a neighbor whose home was struck by one of the bullets told reporters he had always thought of doyle as a good guy. >> it a shock to all the people that really know him. he is not the violent man. >> reporter: robert doyle was charged with second degree murder and three counts of aggravated assault. he is out on bond wearing an ankle monitor, awaiting his next court date. >> they have stand your ground laws on the books. how much will that help the
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defense? >> it will help his defense to a certain extent. he still has to prove self defense. and the stand your ground really only reflects the aspect of duty to retreat. he has no duty to retreat. especially at his own home. but, first he has got to build up a good self defense case. without that stand your ground will go nowhere. >> interesting, jeff the shooter's wife is saying he just kempt running kept running at my husband. according to police he was shot three times in the back. >> and the shooter's wife is not necessarily going to seen by the jury as an objective, fair-minded witness, though an excited utterance at the time of the event. i think the fact that these are shots in the back and so many of them makes a defense in this case very difficult. >> jose the shooter held this man's wife and children captive until the police arrived. she couldn't even go to help her husband. how does he defend doing that? >> well those are going to be
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extremely difficult. much more difficult than than the more serious charge. in the state of florida that carries 3 year minimum mandatory per count. if you take each person. that's three years mandatory prison per case. and i, to comment briefly on what jeffrey said more contemporaneous statements than utterance. this happened while the event was occurring. while not an independent witness it shoe carry auld carry a little more weight in the sense the person was talking and making the statements as it was happening. >> or seconds after. >> it conflicts with the physical evidence. the idea that he is running. the wife says he is running towards doyle. if the, if three of the gunshot wounds are in his back that's that's a lot more persuasive than what his wife says don't you think? >> it is.
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but you can recall many times when you shoot someone in the chest, their body will turn and the subsequent shots can hit the person in the back. then also issues with the awe temperatureawe -- the autopsy. entrance and exit wounds. things still to be determined and could be determined at trial. while the injuries in the back are very concerning. it doesn't end right there. >> though if you are shot in the chest and spun around by it. i don't quite get how you continue to have forward momentum running towards the person you were running from. again it all depend on physical evidence. the entire incident though i mean recorded on 911. you can hear it all escalate. doyle is saying you know heard saying he has got a gun. the dispatcher telling gonzalez not to go to the house. remarkable hearing it play out. >> it is remarkable. lots of evidence that both side
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can are gu from.gue from. you have one person dead. and obviously in retrospect gonzalez should have left the matter where it was. all he did it appears is go to the house and try to look at the address. that's what the claim was. that decision cost him his life. and even though obviously it was unwise to go to the house. >> also unwise to get out of the vehicle. i guess, had he stayed on the street, jose if he had stayed on the street exited his car, stayed on the street opposed to entering the driveway is there a -- less of a case of stand your ground? >> i don't think there's, well i do think there is less of a case bah because the person depending on the direction of the car, positioning of the cars. you know what's shocking is how this is eerily similar to the zimmerman case how it became a big issue how the 911 dispatcher told them don't follow him. here you have a situation where
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it is all most identical, telling him, no no no. at the same time he is endangering not only himself but his wife and his, his -- his family. the whole thing is very eerily similar to that situation. and but yet we have to remember something. it is a very scary thing when someone confronts you in a road rage incident. when they actually get out of their car and they confront you. these are things the defense would use to just picture yourself in that situation. where you are arguing. it's not pretty. it's getting nasty. then someone actually take the step to follow you home. get out of their car. you are, you are on a hyperalert at that point. and thing can happen. and unfortunately in this situation it did. >> just a reminder to everybody to take a breather in these situations. you know? >> jose has got the blame the victim defense all teed up right there. >> i've wouldn't go that far. off awe we'll we'll see what happens. thank you. >> a deadly escalator accident
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it is a new look at an unforgettable day in american history. the story of the september 11th terror attacks told in photos. the national archives released hundreds of photos of president bush vice president cheney and others as the horrifying events unfolded that day. brian todd reports. >> reporter: even for a man familiar with high stress these never before seen photos show another level. dick cheney wrapping his mind around the unthinkable. the morning of september 11 2001 in his office the then vice president watches footage of a world trade center tower burning his foot on a desk. >> that could well have been after the first tower was hit. at which point everybody i think believed it's odd, it's strange. it could very well and most probably is some kind of tragic accident. >> reporter: within minutes the
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second tower is hit. and the secret service tells the vice president, his office may not be a safe place. >> my agent all of a sudden materialized beside me and said sir, we have to leave now. and grabbed me and propelled me out of my office and down the hall into the underground shelter in the white house. >> reporter: cheney is whisked to the bunker the president's emergency operations center. the newly declassified pictures taken by cheney's photographer as september 11th unfolded had been held in the national archives released for the first time now as part of a freedom of information act request. inside the bunker the body language illustrates the strain with condoleezza rice seated next to him aide are shoulder to shoulder crowded around cheney taking and giving instructions desperate for information. >> the stress was immense. it was very real. and could have been
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chainy and his aids are unsure of where the fourth hijacked plane. is. >> there was a possibility there could be a decapitation strike. they had gone after our financial centers, the military centers of power and now they were coming after the political centers as well. >> reporter: chaney orders fighters to shoot down the fourth plane, an order that wouldn't be needed. we see cheney and his wlooi wife boarding the helicopter to an undisclosed location. we now know the first location was camp david. >> the vice president needed to be available to washington, needed to be at the whoufs. so the decision was that the vice president was the one who at least for those first several weeks was going to be at a remote safe location. >> incredible reporting. gary tuchman has our 360 bull
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senate a committee will help review sandra bland's traffic stop and death in a texas jail cell. they will work along with the d.a.'s office and make recommendations on whether the state trooper who hulled her over or begin else should be charged. the case could go to a grand jury as soon as next month. the latest issue of new york magazine features stories and photos of 35 women who have accused bill cosby of sexual assault. the women range in age from 44 to 80. cosby has never been charged with a crime but in a 2005 deposition quote released earlier this month he admitted to obtaining quaaludes he wanted to give to women he wanted to have sex with. authorities say they found a kill kit in this man's car, with handcuffs, shovels and much
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more. in china a frightening scene that's very hard to watch. a mother and young son riding an escalator. when they reach the top the floor gives way, the mother heroically pushes her son to safety. sadly she was killed crushed by the machinery. it took workers four hours to find her body. 1200 pounds 7 tons of ammo found in one man's home. the question who was he and what was he going use that for? that story coming up. ♪ ♪
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jeffrey allen lash was discovered dead in a parked suv near his los angeles area home. he had been dead for weeks. his fiancee. >> he was there but never contacted authorities. those were his wishes apparently. he was so reclusive, this is the only known picture of him. when police went to his home they made a surprising discovery. an arsenal of weapons and ammo like they had never seen before. >> reporter: private investigator scott ross trying to unlock a mystery. why would one man -- >> $495 price tag. >> reporter: have weapons like this? >> clip holsters. >> reporter: holsters gun locks, cleaners casings. >> it's just one box.
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and there are hundreds. hundreds hundreds. >> reporter: that's an understatement. police seized 1200 firearms from this upsale pacific palisades town home. that's right. 1200 pristine new guns, some with the tags still on them. officers also found nearly seven tons yes, tons of ammunition, the largest weapons seizure from one home that the l.a.p.d. recalls. >> he basically had an assembly line where they would pass them from one to another to the truck until the truck was filled and we had to go bring back another truck. >> reporter: that's not all police found. piles of cash. $230,000. as to what he planned to do with it all, we may never know. that's because jeffy allen lash age 60 was found in this suv just outside his condo, decomposing there for more than two weeks. lash's life intensely private,
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became public when his fiance called his lawyer. >> i supposed she was a crazy lady coming up with a crazy story. >> reporter: the story she told him, lash worked for spy agencies and collected weapons. he suffered from cancer. as it turn out, his fiance helped him into the car putting a blanket over his body. when he died, lash promised his fiancee his, quote, people would take care of him taking away his bodies and his guns. >> she believed him? >> yes absolutely. for 17 years she believed him. or maybe it was true. he wasn't a drug dealer he wasn't a survivalist, he wasn't a gun merchant of the it's inexplicable inexplicable. >> reporter: lash appeared to have no income no job, no criminal record no family but
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you can't just dismiss him as a hoarder. who is jeffrey allen lash? >> just anna nice ordinary guy with a fascination for weapons. >> reporter: that may be but even lash's own attorney of 30 years can't plane explain where he got all the money. >> we never spoke about what he did for a living that's because i had the impression he didn't do anything for a live. >> bizarre. did he inherit money? is it even legal to have that many weapons? i guess -- i guess it is. >> reporter: as crazy as it sounds -- because we asked that question to the l.a.p.d. there isn't a limit to how many weapons you can own. he can own even more if they are all registered. if they are legal in this case if they are secured. that's what the l.a.p.d. is working through. the bigger concern for them anderson is this is a fire zone.
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all california is. imagine if there had been a fire with 6.5 tons of ammunition inside this home. >> that does it for us. we'll see you again at 11:00 p.m. eastern for another edition of 360. cnn tonight with don lemon starts now. get used to it america, donald trump is not going anywhere. not yet, anyways. this is cnn tonight i'm don lemon. trump is on top of the republican field in the latest cnn poll. let's face it we like to watch. donald trump also tops the list of republicans you most want to see debate. tonight, is it a movement, as you have trump says? plus the shocking story of the woman who fought back and killed a suspected serial killer. how she lived to tell about it. >> i knew he was there to kill me. i could tell that he had already done something. >> i want to begin with the day in trump. is donald trump right? is he leading a movement? joining me