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gets rid of your genetic competition and it brings the females to heat. >> there's no chance that the females -- >> but that's not true. the females do most of the work. if they protect them, they could survive. >> thank you, jeff corwin, appreciate it. that's it for us tonight. i'll see you right back here tomorrow night. i'm don lemon. "ac 360" starts right now.
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2014 bound for beijing. if it turns out this is wreckage from that flight it would be a major discovery in a search that has gone on for nearly 17 months. march 8, 2014. malaysia airlines flight 370 takes off bound for beijing. 239 people on board. 40 minutes into the flight the airplane's transponder suddenly goes dark. >> the transponder is effectively the incident that sends out a signal to air traffic control that tells you what height it's at and what
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speed it's traveling. suddenly, this giant trip 777 is blind to the world. >> air traffic control waits two hours before notifying emergency responders. >> that two hours was incredibly critical. >> at first, the search focuses on the south china sea, where the plane fell off the radar. then it shifts to the southern indian ocean where it's believed the plane turned off course. oil slicks in the ocean off vietnam. a floating yellow objected, ought to be a life raft turns out to be sea trash.
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and they pick up a signal. it's the first sign of hope. >> we have very much narrowed down the search area. and we are very confident that
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the signals we're detecting are from the black box. 122 planes and 19 hunts. >> it can't go on forever. but as long as there are reasonable leads, the search will go on. >> authorities do not know where the plane went down with this new possible discovery. we wanted to take a look at the flight path as we know it and the currents to see exactly what we could find out. correspondent richard quest joins me with that.
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does it make sense that this debris could travel that far? >> oh, absolutely. absolutely. and i'm going to show you how, anderson. as i'm doing this if a question occurs to you, just jump on in and ask away. now, as randi kaye made it clear just a moment ago, this is what we know. the plane takes off, it goes over comes down over indonesia and it -- the plane heads down way into the southern indian ocean. the plane is coming from the top of southeast asia. i'm going to draw it down. it then comes down right the way to here and about here is where the best opinion suggests the plane went down. all the consensus, pretty much now, is that's where the plane. and, now, look at the western way in which it's believed the currents moved it out towards
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the west. you're talking about it moving 2500 miles out towards the western part of the indian ocean. but could the currents actually have done that? that seems to be the question. the answer seems to be quiet clearly, yes, they could. these are the five major gyres that exist around the world the north pacific, the south pacific, the north atlantic, the south atlantic. this is the currents that move the debris around the ocean and you have the indian ocean. look at that. if we put in play and we imagine now what we know anderson about where the search area is where the thing would have went into the waterer. i's not a leap of faith.
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it's perfectly possible for that debris to have ended up in the fullness of time on the western side of the indian ocean. >> and,yet, i mean if they're so sure -- you say the consensus is that's where the plane we believe the e went down that area you first showed and then that piece of debrisings i mean this is a pretty large piece of debris. you would think if it's iii the plane, then there would be other large piecings of debris. so why hasn't anything been found in that search area? wer is that they got there late, 12 days on. they think a lot of it had sunk. a lot of it just disappeared. but now we start to find -- you only need one piece.
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you get this one piece that may have gotten into the gyra and over the months we worked it out, it has to move at roughly 10 miles a day in this environment. 10 miles a day, which, if you look at the currents in this part of the world, that something can go here and make its way roughly 10 miles a day. will there be more is the question. and for that we'll be looking at the question to look over here and over here. these are vast areas, as well. >> richard, i want to bring in cnn analyst. he co-led the zerk.
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are there any other 777 that have gone missing? >> no. if it's a 777 part you know you want to check the serial numbers, but there's no other missing 777 in the india ocean. we can, with fairly good confidence say that has a link to mh 370. it is not consistent with the search area. but the search area remember anderson is not a bulls eye by any stretch. it's a region.
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zeshlging, but we still don't know exactly where. >> david, you agree that it's very possible based on symbol calculations this debris could have traveled that far after the plane went missing? >> absolutely. >> yeah, it's well within reason. the question is to backtrack. i'm sure beginning already, there's probably teams of modelers out there figuring out where this piece came from. and that's the important part. where is the x marks the spot? i think the teams and the ships are in. they're exhausted. they've been out. having been there myself knowing what it's like to spend months at sea and not find what you're looking for, this is the kind of boost they need to at least give them the first tangible evidence that there's a plane missing somewhere in that
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part of the ocean. >> richard, i would think, aren't there serial numbers in parts of that debris. wouldn't there be some serial numbers there? to check serial numbers against records of aircraft? >> yes, there's lots of serial numbers. every part of that bit will have a number on this. .
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the area that's being searched is 120,000 square kilometers. they've searched just less than half of it so far. there's one ship still currently out there. and it's been winterized. they search about one day in every two. >> david gallo, thank you. there have been so many theories about what happened. >> also tonight, donald trump.
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the search has gone on since the plane disappearing over a year ago. icide could have been a reason ultimately the international independent investigation committee said it found no indication that would cast suspicion on him or the crew. terrorism. did someone commandeer the plane.
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a theory that a catastrophic electrical or a mechanical failure brought the aircraft down is still being considered. rapid decompression. the plane suddenly loses cabin pressure and the passengers and crew become unconscious. the plane on auto-pilot flies until it runs out of fuel and crashes. but, without more evidence, they are all just theories. leaving grieving families in limbo. wondering what happened to those they lost.
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is in fact from the plane, what does it tell you in terms of how and why this plane could have crashed? i think it would surprise a lot of people that there's such a big piece if in fact, it's from this plane. squl it wouldn't surprise me to have this piece be large even if there was an abrupt and strong impact impact because of where it's located. this piece would have been at the trailing edge of the wing and would have avoided any kind of direct impact. >> you looked at this closely. do you believe there's a good chance this is from the plane? >> i do, anderson. i've looked at this. i've talked to boeing mechanics most of the day.
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it rules out to me and as miles had pointed out earlier in your program, that there would not have been any other accidents that would have potentially provided this debris. >> the specific piece that was found, when those are deployed it's usually a landing, right? if that was the case, what does it tell you about what has happened here? >> it's used to bank the aircraft what we call an ala rod:
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ody try to do that? >> well as i've said frequently there's no black box for the human mind. why would somebody potentially, and this is one of the theories out there, there are many theories very few of which can be discounted. if you wanted it to go into the ocean in such a way that it didn't generate a lot of debris you'd want to slow it down as much as possible. >> there's so many theories out there about what could have happened to this flight.
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king at the various depressions and the rips if you like in the composite material. that where were the forces that hit this particular point when the aircraft entered the water. but, to the point about whether it assists. so really what we're talking about what happened at this particular point. 1:07 to 1:19 to 1:21 in the morning. what happened there on the cockpit? and i don't believe, at the moment from what i've heard, and, you know there are others that may disagree that what we know about this helps us understand that.
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>> thank you very much. just ahead, donald trump sitting down with our dana bash not holding back. also his stansz on pro-choice. he used to say he was pro-choice. now he's against abortion. we'll talk to him about that. and politicians tendency to kpaj rate. donald trump speaking out tonight.
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today, donald trump called her a vicious, horrible person. dana bash saturday down with donald trump for a very wide-ranging interview. as you can imagine, he certainly does not pull any punches when it comes to being personally attacked. so listen to how he responded. >> it was breast purpose. pump. she wanted to pump in front of me. >> the way she described it was she wanted to take a break. >> you can ask my lawyer who was there. he said he'd never seen anything like it. she wanted to breast pump in front of me. i may have said that's disgusting. i may have said something else. i thought it was terrible. she is a horrible person. knows nothing about me. >> i guess the question isn't so much that she's an expert. but she does have an experience which she clearly doesn't
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think -- >> excuse me. she lost. and that's what the country needs. if country that needs somebody that's going to win. we lose to everybody. wouldn't it be nice if we could finally win something? i beat her so badly. she is a vicious, horrible person. >> because you're not a politician we don't have your voting record to go on. we have your experience as a businessman and part of your experience. >> so many people are on television that don't know me and they're, like, expertings on me. >> one other thing i do want to ask you about that was in new york times this morning when they went through some of your depositions. quoted you under oath saying i'm no different from a politician running for office. you always wanted to put the
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best foot forward, saying that you exaggerate. of course i want to put the best foot por forward. i'm a very optimistic person. >> do you kpaj rate? >> everybody exaggerates. i guess i do a little bit. so i'm reading it. there were a couple of things that jumped out at me. at the time you said you were pro-choice. >> i am pro-life. i had an experience with a friend of mine who was, prankly, they were going to abort the child, which they ended up having. and their child is like, this magnificent person.
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>> you do think there should be exemptions for rape and incest? >> yes. >> if you are the republican nominee, you would be the effective leader of the republican party. would you make sure that that exception or those exceptions would be the republican party platform? >> i'm actually getting along very well with the people at rnc right now. romd reagan was a long time ago. he was somebody that liked me a lot, i liked him a lot. i helped him a little bit. and he had the exceptions, also. >> do you find when talking to him, obviously, it's always hard to pin him down. is he developing more of his
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policies? >> does it seem like he's sort of figuring out his positions? >> yes, and in some ways figuring it out as they go along. about the kid bo come here illegally through no fault of their own. he said i'm just not really sure what to do about it yet. so in some cases, like in that, it's refreshing. he doesn't come up with a canned answer. but in other cases, like abortion where he has done such a 180 in his own personal position he says he's going to have a lot of explaining to do. i don't think he's fully formed on that. that will be a very interesting connection.
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>> is he like any other politician you have interviewed? >> absolutely not. not at all. >> which is what his supporters -- which is what is so endeering to a lot of people out there. the fact that he doesn't talk like a politician. unfortunate lir, for us it is as you said sometimes hard to pin him down. but, luckily, we have a chance to talk to him. >> thank you very much. i want to dig deeper now with our panel. joining me former reagan white house political director. first of all, this whole issue, do you think it's a thing that matters at all serial numbers when you don't have somebody's political record, these things are going to pop up. you look at their legal record and this person made soom allegations. my sense is that this doesn't really play that -- i mien this
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doesn't, beyond today, go anywhere. what is your sense? >> right. right. anderson i think you're a hundred percent right. i would just say, in terms of his audience here which would be the republican base they look at things like this and they remember that when mit romney was running, suddenly, you know, there was this incident from 50 years agoo when he was a boy, he was supposed to have forcibly cut some kids hair off and if guy turned out to be gay and he was turned into a gay basher.
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meglamaniac and a mass murderer athearted. >> there's a scientist on television now who says the exact same thing about a lot 06 democrats. i agree with you. dan, i mean you heard trump talking about his position on what used to be pro-choice. do you think that is something that his opponents are going to start to now try to use against him? the idea that he's a flip-flopper? that he at one point bs was registered republican. now he says he's conservative republican. >> i think, to date all of his
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opponents are hoping to go away. eventually he's doubled up the lead in new hampshire. eventually whether it's jeb bush, they're going to have to make a case against him. rview fold. >> it's interesting. when you talk too supporters of his, the fact that he doesn't have a clear position on what do you do with the 11 million undocumented immigrants who are already in this country, he says the numbers could be as high as 34 million. but that doesn't seem -- bother
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the people who like him. he's got a vision. >> that's right. he's got billions of dollars to back up that division on all sorts of successful real estate deals that he talks about endlessly. and that's their proof, that he could make america great again. but because he's got the funding, he'll essentially go much further. he's such a well-known figure. he's tapping into a lot of the kind of resentment.
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he's certainly left out from republican leadership. that's why, as dan said everything falls to donald truch's favor. ll give time to response. he's going to get far more time than anybody else to respond to what they were saying. >> i think they would be smartest to saying what they're for. all of that is going do do -- i
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think these incidents have proven, beyond doubt, and he surges in the pollings. i think it's a mistake. >> dan, do you agree with that? >> i think that is probably true for the quasi front runners. e go after bush because et's good for them. >> always great to have you all
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his loss, say scientists, can't actually be measured. an american dentist reportedly paid 50,0$50,000. ryan young has the latest. >> where's dr. walter jay palmer. >> i'm just so disgusted in that man to shoot any lion.
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or a lion like that out of the reserve. and shoot him? how can anybody think that's a sport? just appalling. >> cnn tried to find him at his minneapolis home. no one has answered the door. i deeply regret the responsibility of my action. >> preserves are there to preserve wildlife. not to just lure them off and poach them. >> a wealthy dentist finds himself under a torent of criticism after a conservation group. pursuing the animal another 40 hours. zimbabwe says palmer paid at least 50, $50,000 for the hunt.
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and now the dentist finds himself being hunted as questions remain whether he will face charges in zimbabwe. >> he can apologize until the cows come home. but, for us it's more about we're here for cecil. we're not here for dr. palmer. >> but this isn't the first time dr. palmer's big-game hunting has gotten him in trouble. court documents show that an individual the same age as the dentist was put on probation years earlier pr e for killing a black bear and then lying to wildlife and fish services. he got probation and paid a $3,000 fine.
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these two men have since been arrested fwr the slaying. their attorney says they are nent. dr. palmer says he relied on their exper teesz as guides to kwt ensure a legal hunt." >> it's very immature. and it shouldn't be condoned. but, back state side questions still remain of what is to become of dr. palmer. steadily coming to a boiled anger and out rage. even late night show host jimmy kimmel responded at one point choking up. >> do you want to do something? do you want to make this into a positive, you could -- sorry. make a donation to support them. >> i understand that dr. palmer
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released a statement today to his patients. what do we know what he said? >> this afternoon, we got from one of our affiliates it states he's sorry for the inconvenience. by standing out here there's a lot of passion involved in this. we saw hundreds of people gathered to protest. one woman saying she doesn't even believe she could practice here ever again. we tried to reach him, but, of course, he did not answer his door. >> a prosecutor shares his utter disgust of the death of an unarmed black man by a white police officer calling it senseless and even asinine. the incident was caught on camera. we'll show it to you when we continue.
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a university of cincinnati police officer who's white for the shooting death of an unarmed man who is black last week. the prosecutor is disgusted by the actions of the officer in question calling his account of traffic stop nonsense and even says what he did was "asinine." the incident was caught on the officer's body camera. it is difficult to watch, but it is crucial to the story. >> reporter: the conversation captured on body camera that quickly turns into a deadly confrontation. >> well i still haven't figured out if you have a license or not. >> i didn't even do nothing, man. >> go ahead and take your seat belt off. stop. stop.
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frame by frame rjs you see the police officer to reach for the door. debose starts the consider and begins to move. the officer's gun comes out. she shouts stop, stop and then the gunshot. the car speeds up. the officer is on the ground. the gun in front of the camera. >> if my son is righteous and he get killed, somebody had to be wicked here. i thought the person should have been locked up from day one. >> in the video, it is hard to hear the gunshot. this is the video slowed about 20%. you can hear the car engine the officer shout twice and then that single, fatal shot. he slumped forward hitting the gas as he died. the car came to a stop after jumping the sidewalk at the end of the block.
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officer raymond tensing has been charged with murder and voluntary man slaugter! this is the most asinine act i've ever seen a police officer make. totally unwarranted. it's incredible. again, i feel so sorry for his family. and i feel sorry for the community. this should not happen. ever. >> in the pligs report filed the day after the accident officer tensing told the investigator he was almost run over and was forced to shoot the driver. you can't look at that video and say the police report supports that video.
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>> i mean that he would make this statement, knowing that he had a body camera on, doesn't make any sense to me. >> it doesn't make any sense. and those charges may come to the prosecutor. two other officers were there with him that day. one of them saying that he witnessed the honda accord almost run over him or drag him. the other officer saying that the injuries he saw were consistent with dragging. so the d.a. now looking to see as to whether or not they falsifyied that police report. >> that does it for us. our coverage continues from cnn in atlanta next.
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one year four months and this piece of debris maybe the first piece of hard evidence of what happened to that doomed flight. ahead, anything but a routine start. white police officer pulls over a black man in ohio. the cop is now charged with murder. the trump versus the breast pump. donald trump blasting a lactating lawyer saying she is vicious and horrible. >> welcome. glad to be with you the next hour. >> this is cnn newsroom.