2,300 miles from the current search zone off the australian coast in the southern indian ocean. a group of people happened upon the wreckage during a beach cleanup. the debris bearing the mocking bb 670 that could help in the identification process. >> if it is indeed part of a 777, then we are pretty clear it would be then also part of mh370. >> reporter: flight mh370 vanished without a trace last year with 239 souls on board shortly after takeoff from kuala lumpur en route to beijing. the government declaring the missing plane an accident. everyone on board presumed dead. and just to give you an idea of what some of the poor families are feeling, we have spoken to

some of them they are not ready to fly out here to reunion just yet. they have had their hopes dashed so many times, but one family member says if this does turn out to be a piece of mh370, they finally have a tangible piece of evidence that their loved ones are, indeed presumed dead. >> i'll take it robin. great to have you on reunion island. the discovery of the debris comes after 16 months of nonstop search efforts for the missing airliner largely focused here off the western coast of australia. so how could debris wash from here thousands of miles away all the way here to reunion island? we are joined now from kuala lumpur on this exhaustive search. all the efforts since the plane vanished 500 days ago. andrew? >> reporter: well, it is an

extraordinary trip for the searchers and the countries involved. now 16 months old, finally getting to the point where we can actually say that the plane did crash because there have been so many theories surrounding this flight. let's take the headlines back to march of last year when flight mh370 disappeared off the radar. officially they were looking in the south china sea and near indonesia. and as the plane didn't give up any signals at all and followed closely with no real conclusions as to where the plane had gone more and more experts look at the mathematics and the possibilities of where it could have gone. and eventually using the satellites as you remember the handshakes of the satellites between the plane and the handshake, they find now that experts narrowed it down to the area in the southern indian association. this is a massive area of basically unknown sea and

unknown seabed. so that search went 4.6 million square kilometers at one point. enormous down to currently 120,000 kilometers john. the search at one stage, there were something like 21 planes 19 ships, 1800 searching for -- now we have two or three ships down there in the deep southern indian ocean looking. we have about half of that 120,000 kilometers. what we know at this stage is where the debris surfaced is consistent with the currents and where it could have floated from. so the australian authorities are saying at the moment that it doesn't bring us any closer to where or pinpointing where the wreckage may be. but it is consistent with where the search area is now. any debris from the search area could end up near reunion island. it is like a needle in the

haystack that gets smaller and smaller. >> andrew fascinating. thank you for all of that. it has been an agonizing week for the families of 239 people on board that missing airliner. after more than 16 months many are treating this news with caution. will berkeley is live in beijing where the flight was headed before that part of the story came out. >> reporter: family members say this brings them right back to march of last year when we saw them in such apgnguish and such pain. that uncertainty continues right now as they still don't know where their loved ones are. the families at this point only have each other for support. the information center has been closed. the hotline shut down. they don't have any official information. they are only getting it from the media. i want to read you a statement from some of the chinese families here saying quote, no matter where the debris is found, we care more about the whereabouts of our family

members. whether or not the debris of mh370 is found, all parties should not stop or give up their previously pledged search effort. and another quote says i'm torn if it's confirmed from mh370 there will be some closure for us but i'm still hoping it's not the plane and that patrick is still alive. that's so heartbreaking. almost 17 months later many family members believe that this plane somehow landed and their loved ones are still alive. >> well, perhaps the news today will give them some measure of information or closure. will thank you so much for that. joining us on the phone is martin dolan, the chief commissioner of the australian safety board. his agency has been leading this search for mh370 for the past year. commissioner dolan, thank you so much for being here. can you tell us how much certainty you have today that a piece of mh370 has been found?

>> we have not been able to confirm full details of what this piece of debris is or whether it is associated with flight mh370. >> how long do you think it will take to definitively determine if this is a piece of that airliner? >> the french authorities are looking or working with asian authorities and are working as quickly as possible. and we hope something can be done in the next 24 to 48 hours. it depends how much information can quickly be extracted from this piece of debris. >> if it is in fact a piece of a 777, does that mean it is mh370? >> if it is confirmed to be a piece of a 777, yes. our view is there is no other known source for a piece of that size of significance. >> commissioner for the better part of the past year you have been leading a search that's been 2300 miles away from where

this piece of debris was found k.. can you just share with us your thoughts when you heard this debris was found off the coast of madagascar? >> well, we have done -- our thoughts were certainly that it is possible associated with the asian aircraft. and that's something we say has to be confirmed. because we have done a considerable amount of modeling of how floating debris would drift in the indian ocean. and over the length of time six to eight months we're talking about, the drift goes a considerable distance. and our modeling said there was certainly a possibility that by the time floating debris would have reached as far east as this. >> but were you convinced it was still the right place to be searching off the west coast of australia where you were? >> this is based very much on

how the expert analysis is associated with the aircraft. the aircraft will be found quite close to the pack so we have a high rate of confidence in the search area and the officials and the equipment we use to search the area. >> but commissioner if this is a piece of debris you still found this off the coast of madagascar but you still have a high confidence in your search area 2300 miles away? >> correct. because our modeling says a drift of a piece of wreckage that far west is entirely consistent with the location of our search area. >> so even if this is determined today to, in fact be mh370, you won't move your operations over to madagascar? >> no because if it's confirmed to be from mh370, we know that

the wreckage could easily have drifted over a period of time to that search area. and all the information we have and analysis we have says the search area is where the aircraft will be found. >> lastly, commissioner, what will you be doing today? >> what i'll be doing today is waiting to get confirmation on the nature of this piece of debris. and i'll be continuing to work with my team and the crews out in the water to search the area and continue to search that area until we find the missing aircraft. >> and you believe that confirmation will come in the next 24 to 48 hours? >> i'm hoping so yes. >> commissioner dolan, we know you have a busy day. thank you for taking time for "new day." great to get your updates. we want to get analysis by mary scalo. she's a former inspector general of the department of transportation.

david is a director of special projects at the oceangraphic institution. he led the efforts to find air france 447. nice to see both of you this morning. such an important day. mary tell us what your thoughts were when you heard that this piece of debris was found off the coast of madagascar? >> well, my initial thoughts were there were two of the missing malaysian plane, but there was also another crash in the area back in 2009 but that was an airbus. so from the hearing of that piece of plane being found, i thought, well, at this point it's kind of a 50/50 chance. and with the news yesterday that boeing said it was consistent with the 777, that was highly significant because the 777 was such a unique airplane when first certified to fly back in 1995. it was completely redesigned from previous planes and it was computer designed. so that would be unique in the 777 being a unique plane. and there were only four

crashes, so i was fairly confident it might be that. >> david, can you explain the location where this piece of debris was found and how peculiar or expected that is? >> hi alyson. it is very expected for something floating in the southernmost part of the indian ocean, especially off the west coast of australia far enough out. everything there circulates in a counterclockwise manner. and the distance is not that great when you think that it's been in the water for 500 days. so with the winds and the currents that are pushing it it could have made it there easily. the question is where exactly did it come from? and how much can it tell us about where x marks the spot where malaysian air 370 -- if it is in fact and i'm still reserving judgment if it is a piece of mh370. where did it impact the water. >> if it does turn out to be from a 777, then are you still

reserving judgment? >> no. then i think we have confirmation that it met its end in the indian ocean. but i understand the family's anguish completely because it's been 500 days and worse, 500 nights of not knowing where their loved ones are. and there have been so many stops and starts and reversals of opinions that i can't blame them for really having some question about whether this is real or not. >> absolutely. it is just the worst not knowing. it is such a mystery for them. and they have never been able to have any resolution whatsoever. >> and i'm hoping you know it's going to be a long time still if this is a piece of mh370, a long time still before anyone actually finds the main body of the wreckage. >> mary can you tell us about this piece and what this piece tells you about why this plane might have gone down? >> well, it does give it some clues and certainly doesn't give us the clues that the families and everyone else wants and

investigators always want as to what started the chain of events. why did the plane end up in the water, but it's a pretty large piece from other ones i have worked on. if you remember the germanwings crash and how small the pieces were there. in this case a couple things could have happened. the wing could have detached and later this flapper piece, which is towards the wing closest to the body of the plane. and that impacts later. but this is a pretty big piece. and we can probably tell that the plane did not fall from say 35,000 feet straight into the water. not a diving crash into the water because the pieces would be much smaller. you wouldn't expect to find a piece this big. and then also that it appears that it was torn from its attach point or from the hinges. and that would suggest there were stresses put on that piece. and this piece is used to extend the wing area and give an aircraft more lift or to turn the plane so the plane could have been turning or it could have been in a configuration

trying to get more lift for whatever reason landing you always put it down. >> the fact that it is such a big piece, david, what does that tell us about what happened? >> well, i think, it's in the hands now of the french equivalent of the ntsb the bea and the australian transportation safety board. and the bea is excellent. and they will get every bit of evidence and clue that they can out of that piece. they might be able to tell if it was more of a belly landing on the water or some sort of a plunge. mary's right, having the contact points for that attachment to the plane, they'll be able to look at the strings inside the areas and the defamations and be able to see something. which is much the case in airfrance 447. so pieces found floating had a little bit to say about how the plane hit the water. >> mary we just spoke to the commissioner who is leading the search of the australian

equivalent of the ntsb. and they have been 2300 miles away. that's been their search area. he says he's still confident that that is the right search area. what do you think? >> well, i think given the piece of where it was found, you know if i was doing it i would want to expand a few hypotheses and go back at the initial theories of if the plane made that initial turn in the last primary tracings and secondary radar as well from that plane, where precisely was it headed? and i would also want to enlist the aid of persons in madagascar and reunion and look for other pieces on the beaches in that area. if they can find just a few more pieces that might help them triang late better and get a better fix on some of the currents and where it came from. so i guess at this point it would open my mind a little further to france look at other theories and expand the area. but the most important parts

they need right now are the black boxes. and those are still under thousands of feet of ocean. >> absolutely. it sounds as though the next 24 to 48 hours will be critical. mary david, thanks so much for all of your expertise. obviously, we'll have much more coverage of this throughout the course of the day and morning. over to john. thank you. and we have new news concerns another malaysian flight mh17 went down in ukraine last july killing all 298 people on board. russia using the veto to block the resolution to international a tribunal to prosecute those responsible. russia denied any involvement in shooting down the airliner though there's speculation that russian-backed separatists in the area were behind it. we'll return to breaking coverage of the possible mh370 debris. but first, donald trump making his first overseas trip and cementing his standing at the republican frontrunner. a new brand quinnipiac university national poll showing

he's way ahead in the republican presidential pack right now. in the meantime mr. trump also responding to the lawyer that we interviewed right here on "new day" who says mr. trump called her disgusting during a deposition. chief congressional correspondent dana bash sat down with trump for his take on this and many other things. quoo quite a discussion you had. >> quite a range of topics. he was watching your interview, alyson and tweeted afterwards some things that he thought about it as you can imagine, not all positive. and he continued that conversation with me at the trump tower. he said that you got up shook your finger, screamed you're disgusting you're disgusting and ran out. >> okay. i watched that and thought it was disgraceful. she's a terrible attorney and lost her case to me. in fact i won legal fees. the judge awarded legal fees it's pretty rare when you get

that. we beat her soundly. she has a terrible reputation in my opinion. bottom line i would be her end. what happened is in the middle of everything, it wasn't breastfeed, it was breast pump. she wanted to breast pump in front of me in a deposition. my lawyer said i have never seen anything like it. she wanted to breast pump in front of me. and i may have said that's disgusting and may have said something else. i thought it was terrible. she's a horrible person. knows nothing about me. i see her, she's now the great expert on donald trump. >> i guess the question isn't so much that she's an expert but she does have an experience which she clearly doesn't think was very good. >> that's what the country needs. the country needs somebody that's going to win. we always lose. we lose on trade. we lose to china, japan, mexico we lose to everybody. wouldn't it be nice if we could finally win something? i beat her so badly.

she's a vicious, horrible person. >> because you're not a politician we don't have your voting record to go on. we don't have you know we have your experience as a businessman and part of your experience are legal issues. i guess the question is -- can i -- >> so many people are on television that don't know me and they are like experts on me. when michael jackson died i knew him very well, and everybody was talking about michael jackson. they didn't know him and some never met him. here they are talking about michael jackson and never met him. >> but she -- i don't think anybody is saying she's an expert on donald trump. >> she claims to be. >> she's somebody who is recounting an experience she had. so i guess my question for you is my question for you is people are looking at that and thinking okay if he blows up at a lawyer in a deposition negotiating, what you do if

vladimir putin challenged you? >> oh believe me i would do very well with him. i get along with people. i didn't blow up in a deposition. i don't blow up. i'm a person that -- >> she was wrong, that didn't happen? >> she made it up. >> one thing i do want to ask you about is in "the new york times" this morning. they went through some of your depositions. quoted you under oath saying i'm no different from a politician running for office. you always want to put the best foot forward saying that you exaggerate. >> i do want toit the best. call it exaggeration. of course i want to put the best foot forward. i'm not going to say, oh gee, i'm a bad person. >> do you exaggerate? >> everybody exaggerates. i guess i do a little bit. i want to say good things. okay. so i have space, let's say it's for rent somebody walks in. am i supposed to say, oh this space is no good don't take it it's terrible? or do i say, this is beautiful space, don't you love it?

look at the view. >> will you exaggerate in the white house? >> i will -- the word -- i don't think the word exaggerate is a good word. i want to put a positive spin on things. i want to put a positive spin on the united states. if i'm president, we have a country that's not respected. we are very down. the united states have very down. we don't have good news anymore. we don't have victories anymore. so i would certainly want to promote the united states as a great place. people are laughing at us all over the world. they think we're stupid. and we are. we're being led by stupid people. we're being led by people that don't have a clue. they are incompetent. >> one other xe about that quote, you said i'm no different from a politician running for office. have you considered yourself a politician? because you're out there saying that you're not. >> i became a politician a few months ago when i decided -- >> this is several years ago. >> yeah. but politicians running for office try and put a positive spin on it. i think that's okay. i mean what are they going to do put a negative spin? i think they try to put a positive spin. a politician is a person that

generally speaking should be uplifting. >> are you a politician now? >> now i'm a politician but not acting like a politician because i tell the truth. >> he xanl rateexaggerates. that's what i do. >> that happens in all your interviews with politicians. i exaggerate so what? there's nothing in his interview that you just did that happens with normal politicians. >> and guess what is also happening right now, he's in scotland at his golf course because they are hosting the women's golf tournament. so he's off the campaign trail for a couple of days doing that. again, not something that anybody else who i've covered running for president does. >> just for the record elizabeth beck is the woman he was referring, she says she did not want to breast pump in front of donald trump. she had a room specially designated. it was time to go there and she made that clear. we'll have more from this interview, donna.

thank you so much for that. we'll talk more on what he had to say, break it down. also the new poll we'll break down. what do the numbers mean for next week's gop ga it? who is going to end up on stage? and much more on the wreckage found that could be from flight mh370.

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this morning to show donald trump not just in front but kind of pretty far in front of the rest of the pack at 20%. this is a quinnipiac poll of respected unit. governor scott walker of wisconsin behind him at 13%. jeb bush is at 10%. >> dana bash and cnn's digital correspondent chris moody is here. we'll start with the quinnipiac poll. once again we see donald trump out front as we did by a wide margin. he is two times where jeb bush is and ahead of scott walker his closest opponent. what do you think? >> it's amazing. if we didn't have polls in the first states where they are actually going to the polls to vote in iowa and new hampshire, that are similar to this you would say, you know what that's a popularity contest. of course he's the guy from "the apenprenticeapprentice," everyone knows him. but it's not because he's doing

well in the early states also. look it's terrifying for jeb bush because for him, spending all of the past six months raising $100 million for his super pac is like chump change compared to what donald trump can do when he writes a check. >> and part of jeb's appeal the bush people don't want to admit, but he wants to be the establishment guy out in front. i think they were expecting him out in front. chris moody, let's bring you in here. he's much closer to the pack right now than he is to donald trump. >> at first glance the poll looks great for donald trump. he's at 20% among the republican voters but you dive into the numbers and it doesn't look so good in the long-term for him. yes, he's at 20%. but 30% of republicans polled said they would never vote for donald trump. further, if you put donald trump against hillary clinton, he loses. if you put donald trump against joe biden, he loses. and against bernie sanders, donald trump loses. while the other folks in the poll like jeb bush or scott

walker come much closer. so if you're a republican looking at this poll you are really -- or looking to win the general, you hope donald trump doesn't win the primary because according to this poll he doesn't have much of a chance against the democratic contenders. >> that's an important perspective, chris. thank you. we'll pull up what you are talking about in terms of putting trump against hillary clinton. here are the latest numbers. hillary clinton gets 48% of the vote. donald trump gets 36%. >> and contrast that with clinton and bush. jeb bush right now leading hillary clinton 42% to 41%. >> that's right. look there's a reason why every democrat who comes on tv is cheering donald trump. because of those numbers. they know that the best news in the world has been for them is donald trump doing well. but chris also makes a point that according to this poll not just this poll but other polls, trump does appear to have a ceiling. because it is such a splintered

field, i mean 20% is so out front because you have 16 people who you are polling. when you go down the road with fewer people people start to -- candidates start to drop out, 20% is not going to look that good. if he can't crack more than 30% of the people saying they won't ever vote for him, it won't be so easy. >> chris, we'll look at the debate one week from now. we'll look at the poll of polls to tell us who is likely going to be in the debate. and the top nine slots sleep to be aloft because obviously they have crunched all the latest polls together to see who is leading. so the top tier the nine people who will be -- >> the tiny little -- >> the tenth slot is still up for grabs. and you can see all of the different contenders. kasich perry, santorum. and then that's what this stage will look like if you look at your screen right now. and the tenth is still a question mark. what do you think, chris, or who will be in that slot?

>> well, no matter what republican establishment folks do donald trump will be on the debate stage and they have to find a way to deal with him. but the more interesting story right now is that tenth slot. also something very interesting, if you look at chris christie he's rounding out the bottom barely hanging on. he was somebody who a lot of republicans were begging to run for president in 2012. how the mighty have really fallen. although i will say that he does have a lot of opportunity to make his case to voters and has room to grow. but his unfavorables like trump are also pretty high. so it's going to be a long slot for sure. >> and quickly, john kasich has sort of jumped into a contender from nowhere. he wasn't even running a couple months ago. >> he's the politician version of donald trump. you know you've covered him as well he's -- he has the tendency to say things that are not politically correct. and he kind of speaks the truth and can connect to people. and he has a pretty incredible

record both in his home state of ohio where he's the governor, he really helped to turn things around there, and helped balance the budget in washington. so i definitely think the day he announced that he's a dark horse. >> dana and chris, thank you. >> what's your take on this? tweet us with #newdaycnn. stay with cnn for continuing coverage of a very significant development in the search for flight 370. debris consistent with the boeing 777 discovered some 2300 miles from the search zone in the indian ocean. if it did come from the missing jet liner, how did it get there? we'll take a closer look. leave early go roam sleep in sleep out star gaze dream big wander more care less beat sunrise chase sunset do it all. on us.

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if you are just joining us there is breaking news this morning. investigators heading to reunion island near madagascar to see if a piece of debris that washed up is malaysian airlines flight 370. the discovery being called a very significant development and a major lead in this plane's mystery. an australian official leading the search telling us we could find out in the next 24 to 48 hours if the debris is indeed from mh370. we'll go back to robin creole with the latest from reunion island for us. robin? >> reporter: hi makayla. they do say this debris if it does turn out to be mh370, it is not inconsistent with the drift modeling that they have been studying. that would be the currents that

the atnb saying it is not inconsistent with the search area they are covering so it does fall within their search area. so i just want to give you an idea of exactly where this wreckage has been found. some of the details behind it. it's a boeing 777 wing component that has been found. we know it's the same model type as the mh370. we know makayla, only one 777 has crashed over water and it's still unaccounted for. we also know that boeing conducted initial assessments of the debris and that australians are analyzing the wing. one final point to note is that france and malaysia are leading the investigation. however, it has been coordinated by french authorities, though reunion is a french country and that's a piece of debris being sent to the area where it will be investigated and coordinated by the french, of course

malaysia and australia will spearhead the investigation because they have been searching for this missing plane for 500 days. >> robin, thanks so much. she is there on reunion island hard to get to. how could debris get from the search area near australia all the way across the indian ocean some 2300 miles away to where we just saw robin on reunion island? we'll bring in meteorologist chad myers looking at the currents. how does it work chad? for the same exact reason that the debris from fukushima, the tsunami there, made it to the west coast of north america. there are these gyres. if you throw a bottle in the ocean here somewhere in the caribbean, it will eventually end up in europe. it's the big circles here these are the currents we talk about. it's the reason why there's a current that goes up the east coast in the first place called the gulf stream that keeps that water very warm there. so let's get to it. what do we have here? we are talking about the indian ocean gyre. this is a big one all the way

across the indian ocean to the south of india. and all the way, yes, all the way to africa. i know it's very hard to put it in your mind how far this stuff can float, but i'll show it to you in just a second. there's a model out there that you can run yourself. you can throw a piece of plastic in any ocean and see where it will go. it's really cool. just hang with me for a second. there's the debris in australia in the water clearly for a very long time. it drifted across the ocean and eventually ended up over in the reunion area. this is a complete current that spins a little bit. also, there were two hurricanes in the ocean not long after the plane went missing. let's get to this very cool map. it's adrift.org.au. i can put a dot anywhere in the ocean and show you where the drift pattern will happen. so we say we pretty much know where the plane was here. this is where the drift is going to happen. and in five years some of this

debris may end up in south america. so if you throw a bottle in the ocean, don't do it please but over nova scotia where is it going to go? this model will show it end up in portugal maybe north africa, whatever. it's a really cool model and learning tool. it's also one to tell us about why we shouldn't be putting plastics in the ocean. that's what this is really for, but a great learning tool to see why and how the debris from mh370 would go directly that would be the first place it would hit of madagascar. >> i'll take it here. we are both so fascinated with this technology. thank you for showing that to us. keep it here on cnn for the major discovery in the debris in the flight for mh370. up next a former ohio police officer indicted for shooting and killed an unarmed black man. the shocking video from the officer's body camera contradicted the officer's account. you'll see the tape for yourself and you'll hear from the victim's family.

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good to have you back here on "new day." we'll return to the plane wreckage coverage to find out if it belongs to mh370. but first we need to talk about a very important story. a former university of cincinnati police officer is expected in court today after a grand jury indicted him on a murder charges for the shooting death of an unarmed black man. the young man's name is samuel

debose. his account differs -- the video account differs from what the officer originally described. joining me is an attorney for the family is mark omara. first of all, our sincere condolences in the death of your brother. how are you two and how is the family doing? >> we are devastated. it's heartbreaking. >> the family is hurt heartbroken. >> your brother, we are going to talk about him in a moment. i want to learn more about him. mark i want to ask you about some aspects of this case that we're hearing after this powerful news conference that was held. a prosecutor in the case called the officer's actions asinine

and said this was about the worst piece of police conduct, misconduct that he's ever seen. what was your reaction when you saw the video? >> my reaction to the video, it was, i agree with the prosecutor fully. when i first saw this video of the murder i was amazed i missed it the first time because it happened so quickly. and i truly believed there would be some build up some antagonism wean the two. and it was literally a shooting without justification. the prosecutor i thought, took a very aggressive stance and i haven't seen any stance like that from prosecutors when they have a pending case. but if there's ever an exception to that rule this would be the exception because this case was, in fact an asinine overreaction by a cop without justification. >> the officer's attorney said a couple important things. he says the case is not a cut and dry case like it first appears.

he believes the prosecutor is biased. and he believes a second body camera tells a very different story. listen to what he says. >> i think he has tried to create great prejudice against my client. fortunately, that's what we have courts for because when all the evidence comes out, i think there will be a different version of what went on here that will be made public. >> and you have seen the tape. >> i have seen the tape. >> and what you saw in the tape is not what is described? >> not what i saw. and i don't know whether there's a second tape also from another officer's body cam. i don't know if that's been released or not but that also adds clarity and detail to what occurred out there. >> mark in any way, could a second body camera change our view of what we saw on the initial body camera? >> in my opinion, absolutely not. i have seen parts of the second body camera and after he murdered sam, he did fall back and fall down.

he got right back up and chased after the cop. more troubling than just that is the fact that after having murdered somebody then he starts his cover-up immediately. and the second officer feeds right into that cover-up of the fear of great bodily injury that he might get run over that's almost as troubling as the murder itself. >> shareena if there had not been a body camera do you think there would have been -- the case would have come to a, our attention, or b, the officer would be indicted? >> a, no. b, no. i think that if there had not been a body camera that sam would have been left with the memory of everyone saying that he was basically trying to kill a police officer. they would have turned a

nonviolent man who was loved into a poster child for violence against police officers. so no i do not think we would have gotten justice. i do think that something have happened but i don't think it would have been anything that would have vindicated sam. >> tell me more about your brother that was in his 40s. is it true he was recently engaged? >> so no he was not recently engaged. but yes, he is 43 years old. he was a father and he was loved by everybody. the community and especially our family. >> we are so sorry for your loss. we hope that you'll find justice. mark thank you so much for joining us. terina, deshawn, we send our

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major development in the search for the missing malaysian airline mh370. a piece of debris found on an island in the indian ocean thousands of miles from the search zone. it does appear to be from a 777. mh370 was a 777. australian officials say we could know in 24 to 48 hours if it belongs to flight 370. so we'll look again how we got to this point. the plane took off on march 18 2014 and went off radar an hour into flight. at that point the search stuck right around malaysia. but satellite companies revealed the plane communicated with their system for hours after that. they predicted the plane may have been on this arc you're looking at right now. the signals moved the search closer to australia in this red area right here i'm standing on top of. they were searching the last

area making a detailed map of the ocean floor to spot the plane but nothing but false alarms until perhaps today. so how to get to reunion island? the debris traveled around this circle in the indian ocean gyre. those currents spin counterclockwise and that's how it would get to reunion island near mad gasagascar. justin green is here to show us how this happened. i want to pull up a picture of an airplane a boeing 777 to talk about this piece of debris the piece of debris we have seen on the plane, explain what they think it is. a flaperon. >> this changes the camper of the wing to increase the lift to allow airplanes to slow when landing. they also have things called the airline to help the plane turn or roll. and the flaperon is a

combination of the two because the system turns the airplane but changes in the camper of the wing to give it more lift. >> we have been told within 24 to 48 hours they could have identification of this piece. it's about 7 feet long. do you think they already know? >> yeah i think boeing engineers already know. they know the part. i'm sure measurements have been taken and if the measurements are consistent this is a particular part to a particular airplane. this is not a part off a chevy. if it's from the 777, it's mh370. >> a short time ago the malaysian prime minister said he believes this is from mh370. if it is from 777, it almost has to be from mh370, doesn't it? >> from a process of elimination it has to be. i wish the malaysian prime minister had reached out to families before giving this latest speculation. i think that what is important is the official 100% word that

this is in fact, mh370, a part of the airplane. and that needs to come out and i think the families need to know first. >> the communication issues with the malaysian government has been happening since the very beginning. and we have heard that the families are getting information from us right now, not official sources. that's continuing to be troubling. we are looking at moving pictures of people on the ground there with this piece of debris about 7 feet. what can this lone piece this piece of metal and materials tell us? >> well, the most important thing it tells us right now is that if it is indeed from mh370, that the investigationers are right that this crashed into the indian ocean and there's a loss of life of everyone on board. >> what about how it crashed? the fact that it's a fairly large piece of debris? >> there's a very intense impact you would expect smaller pieces of debris. so this would indicate i think, and it is too soon to really tell but maybe there certainly

was an impact but it wasn't a black hole like catastrophic. >> maybe some kind of landing with a loss of fuel as people speculate over time. >> obviously, if this part was ripped off the airplane it was a very significant impact force. i think they could probably tell that it was an unsurvivable crash, if indeed they examine the wreckage but it is not something that a big part of the airplane still exists. >> what it doesn't tell us is about a big part of the plane that does exist, if it is still in the search zone. it won't help narrow down that area will it? >> it won't narrow down the area. i think the better analysis is using the satellite analysis that they are using now. it's also not going to tell us exactly what caused the airplane to crash, if and i think that we need to find the full wreckage. it's important to the families

and aviation safety. >> justin green, thank you so much. appreciate it. what questions do you have about the debris and the search for mh370? tweet us using #mh370qs. we have much more on this breaking news so let's get to it. we welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day." we begin with breaking news. it is being called a very significant development in one of the greatest aviation mysteries of all time. debris found along the coast of reunion island off the coast of madagascar appears to be from the same type of plane of malaysia flight mh370. >> there's hope that officials could have confirmation this is part of mh370 in the next 24 to 48 hours. we have this story covered the only way cnn can. let's begin with our global coverage with cnn's robin creole

who gives us all the background of this case. watch this. >> reporter: a possible crucial clue and major lead in the 17-month-old mystery of missing malaysian airlines flight mh370. >> this is obviously, a very significant development. it's the first real evidence that there is a possibility that a part of the aircraft may have been found. >> reporter: a piece of debris possibly part of a wing of what appears to be a boeing 777, the same model as the missing commercial airliner. discovered washed up on a western indian ocean beach on the island of reunion near madagascar. french and malaysian authorities dispatching teams to reunion island to investigate the debris which washed up more than 2,300 miles away from the current search zone off the us a tail anlil australian coast. this man telling a reporter he

saw a wing as he walked closer to the debris. the debris bearing the marking bb670, which could help in the identification process. >> if it is indeed part of a 777, then we're pretty clear that it would be then also part of mh370. >> reporter: flight mh370 vanished without a trace in march of last year with 239 souls on board shortly after takeoff from kuala lumpur en route to beijing. then the beijing government declared the missing plane an accident. everyone on board presumed dead. now after almost 500 days of empty leads, this may be the first piece of physical evidence bringing authorities one step closer to unlocking the mystery of the ill-fated flight's disappearance. >> all right, thank you to robin creole on reunion island. you can see on the map how far away it is from australia. the new discovery comes after 17 months of nonstop efforts for

the missing plane. the search largely focused off the western coast of australia. you can see here where they have been looking. how could the debris end up all the way from over here to reunion island? cnn's ander stevens is here on the exhaustive search efforts since the plane vanished. andrew? >> reporter: who would have thought it would be 500 days when they first find the debris linked to mh370. flight 370 taking off to beijing disappearing shortly after its takeoff. and the search began. and it was an enormous search too, to begin with. if you look at what most people would say the time it must have gone down somewhere on the flight route. but as the information came out that it had doubled back on itself the search area got bigger and bigger. one stage, 4.6 million square kilometers search zone. that's just an enormous area. 26 countries were involved in that search at that stage.

john the u.s. china, malaysia indonesia, australia, pakistan thailand the search goes on and on for searching. as the analysts look closer and closer of what they can see on the radar, and these are just radar shadows and linked up information we are getting from the satellites talking to the plane automatically, that search started to move south into the deep southern indian ocean. and it got smaller, only three countries at the end now looking for that plane. malaysia of course australia leading the search in that area and china as well. we just have two ships involved. it's been an extraordinary 500 days as i said. $100 million spent so far, alyson and only now we are starting to get what looks like a clue. and very important to remember if this is part of 370, it's still going to take a long time to actually pinpoint where the actual plane went down. >> absolutely. but it could be an important clue andrew as you said.

thank you so much for that. anxious family members of the 239 people on board the flight holding their breath this morning that the debris holds concrete answers about the fate of their loved ones. will win is ripley is there with more on this story. >> reporter: families are saying the urgent need right now is information. information they are not getting from malaysian airlines or the chinese government. the hotline is shut down and the information center has been closed for more than a year. they are having to watch television and scan the internet for updadstes on their loved ones. they say it is anguish and heartbreaking and angering for them. it's brought many back to when the plane disappeared in march of last year. i want to read you a quote from a group of chinese families who came together and have been communicating on social media saying no matter where the debris is found. we care more about the

whereabouts of our family members. whether or not the debris of mh370 is found, all parties should not stop or give up their previously pledged search effort. we are also hearing from the wife of patrick gomez, the in-flight super visor of mh370 saying quote, i'm torn if it's confirmed to be mh370. there's closure for us but i'm also hoping that it's not the plane and patrick is still alive. there are many family members 500 days in that still have hope that everybody made it out okay even with the discovery of the debris. >> will ripley closure is not easy to come by for any of the families after these 500 days. joining by mary scavo and richard quest. richard is a cnn aviation correspondent. richard, a man you have spoken to before the malaysian prime minister just a few minutes ago believes it is very likely that this piece of debris found on reunion island is from a boeing

777. so richard, if it is from that type of plane, and mh370 was a 777, doesn't the piece of debris almost have to be from mh370? >> it doesn't have to be but yes, there's a high degree of probability. planes don't lose flaps. and when they do you tend to know about it. it's not an incidental piece of equipment on the aircraft. it's a fundamental piece we are talking about. and there's no other 777s that have been lost. and as far as the experts will tell us, they have not received any reports of that equipment being lost from any other aircraft. so yes, there are a lot of other possibilities out there. one could conjure up a variety of scenarios to say it is not mh370, but the experts did tell us about a year ago that when the -- in about eight months to a year if there was debris it would start to wash up on the east african coast. and that's what we are seeing

with this. it's going to take time. because, look this is -- i know we said this a million times, but listening to the other people talking, this is unprecedented. we have not really had a situation where a plane has been lost where no one knows where it is where only debris turns up 500 days after and now you have to reverse engineering where it might have been all that time ago. so that is why this is going to take time. and it's fine to blame people for not talking to this person or that person john or to actually say it should have been done this way or that way. but you're damned if you do and your damned if you don't. if you stay what you think it might be you get criticized. >> they are just trying to confirm if this piece is from mh370. mary there's a maintenance number on this flapper, it's a maintenance number not serial number how long to trace that back to mh370? and an official told us a short

time ago the timeline is 24 to 48 hours before they get confirmation. >> a lot of people say planes actually go flying on the amount of paper that back them up. and the importance of the serial numbers is not only to track the parts but to track the maintenance. and it is required by law in all developed aviation nations that you track the parts and the maintenance numbers on those parts. so the part number also can be traced to boeing but they can also be traced back to the airline. so that's what they were referring to as the maintenance number and should be in the maintenance logbooks kept electronically. and boeing would have all the part numbers and would be very readily available to be checking them. >> and mary if and when they do officially connect this to mh370, it doesn't tell you everything but it starts to tell you some things. it is official confirmation then that the plane went down in the indian ocean. but this 7-foot piece of debris can tell you more than just that. >> oh absolutely. and as debris goes this is a very large piece. i have worked cases with the

largest piece of debris being the size of a couple fists. so you can get a lot of clues. on panam 103, the piece they found to unlock the clues of what happened was the size of a thumbnail. so they can get a lot of clues. there's some things they can rule out. for example, they would be able to rule out explosions and fire in that part of the plane because there would be characteristic hitting in the metal and scorching on the metal. so there are some things to rule out. and they can rule out a fall from atltitudes of 35,000 feet with a part this big. but they can't tell if the wing was ripped off and it came off later. but it's an important clue especially to use drift models to then go back up the chain to see where the drift might have originated. >> and richard quest, it doesn't necessarily tell them exactly where on the bottom of the ocean floor. the rest of this plane might be, the fuselage.

how many clues in the reengineering process does it begin to give? >> i think, first of all, you've got the reverse drift to take you back to roughly the same area where they are already searching. then you have the barnicles and sea damage that will tell you how long it was in the ocean for. and that helps you. but they already believe, because of the data they are in quote, the right area. but that right area is vast and 120,000 square kilometers. 56,000 square miles. can they get it any closer john, as a result of this piece of debris? the answer is no. it does not take them to where x marks the spot. >> mary how careful are they being right now? richard says your damned if you do damned if you don't. but some of the families complain they are getting news from the media. you have worked with families of crash victims.

how careful todo officials need to be now? >> they need to be careful but need an organization to provide information to the families. and the families are getting information from cnn almost from day one because of the censoring and lack of information that the government gives them on a daily basis. what we have in the ntsb is we have an assistance office for families. and it is their job to keep families advised of what is going on. and we are hear because the part was picked up on reunion island. and went back to the bea, the cognizant agency there, they are one of the parties to the malaysia investigation. there are some 13 parties to the malaysian investigation. so it takes time for the information to trickle back to the families but they have shut down the official offices. even the airline has shut down the initial office to give them investigation. and the airline said they thought it was a wild goose chase. not a very well thing to tell

the families of those lost on the flight. >> now officials from all over the world are headed to reunion island to get a look at this piece of debris. we could learn more over the next 24 hours. mary and richard, thanks so much. we'll get back to that with the developments as they come in. meanwhile, donald trump making his first overseas trip and firmly establishing himself as the republican frontrunner in 2016. there's a brand new quinnipiac national poll showing trump head and shoulders ahead of the republican presidential pack at this point. his controversial comments not hurting him, including when he angered many after describing mexicans that come to the u.s. illegally as criminals and rapists. so what's the plan for immigration reform? we'll ask dana bash who sat down with donald trump one-on-one. fascinating interview. >> immigration is the issue that propelled him initially with the conservative base. so now that he's doing so well, the questions are, what will he

actually do about it? particularly i wanted to know about the, maybe 11 million, maybe more undocumented immigrants in this country. let's talk about immigration. you have said that when it comes to the 11 million -- we are not sure how many are here. >> nobody knows. nobody knows. >> you have said those who are criminals should be thrown out of the country. i think everyone pretty much would agree with you on that. >> no, dongsi don't think so. >> for argument sake let's say you're president, you would do that. what happens to the other people? what do you do? >> number one, the first thing we would do is get the bad ones out. we have a lot of bad dudes, as i said. you have a lot of really bad people here in our prisons and are clogging up the prisons. not only in mexico i want to get them back to the country and be in their prisons. so i want to get the bad ones out. not only the ones in the prisons, and they are never coming back.

not only the ones in the prisons but the ones going around in san francisco and shooting kate and jamele and people that should be with us. okay. then we have a law, right? you're supposed to come in legally. i would get people out and have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they could be legal. >> hold on. let me hold on that point right there. when you say get people out, are you talking about a mass deportation? >> we don't even know who these people are. >> but how do you find them? >> we have to find them. >> how do you do that? >> excuse me we have to find them. politicians aren't going to find them because they have no clue. we will find them we will get them out. >> when you say still, get them out, just the process of that. there are a lot of smart people who have been focused on this for a long time to say it's not just feasible. >> it's feasible if you know how to manage. politicians don't know how to manage. we have to bring great people into this country, okay? and i want to bring -- i love the idea of immigration. but it's got to be legal immigration. now, a lot of these people are

helping us whether it's the grapes or whether it's jobs and sometimes it's jobs. in all fairness i love our country, but sometimes it's jobs that a citizen of the united states doesn't want to do. i mean there are jobs that a lot of people don't want to do. i want to move them out and we are going to move them back in and let them be legal. but they have to be in here legally. >> legally like -- >> excuse me otherwise you don't have a country. you don't have a country. if people can just pour into the country illegally, you don't have a country. but i would expedite the country. >> when you say legal, do you mean legal status or citizenship. >> legal status. maybe down the line who knows what is going to happen. but legal status. it's something to think about but right now no i'm not open to it. i would say legal status. >> what about the dreamers? what about people who came here when they were children? they didn't know what they were doing. they came with their parents who brought them here illegally. now many of them are upstanding

citizens. again, you're right, we don't know how many people but maybe 1.8 million people fall into this category. should they be able to stay legally? >> we are going to do something, i have been giving it so much thought. you have on a humanitarian basis, a lot of deep thought goes into this i actually have a big heart. something a lot of people don't understand that. but the dreamers it's a tough situation. we'll do something. and one of the things we'll do is expedite. when something is terrific we want them back here. but they have to be here legally. they are with their parents, it depends. but -- look it sounds cold and it sounds hard we have a country. our country is going to hell. we have to have a system where people are legally in our country. >> now right now donald trump is not in our country. he left the city left the united states shortly after our conversation for scotland as many presidential candidates do when they go to visit their own

golf courses, which he did. because he's having a big golf tournament at his resort in scotland for women's golfers. so that's why he decided to keep it because he said it was very important. he's going to be there for a few days. of course we are coming up on the debate next week the first big debate. i asked if he'll be studying on the plane and he said i am who i am. we'll see what happens. so not so up many. >> maybe it is his way of relaxing before the debate. it will be interesting to see what happens a week from now. thank you, dana. we'll talk about what is happening on capitol hill. the attempt to sell the iran nuclear deal with congress this morning. vice president biden is hosting members of the house democratic caucus. this comes after another congressional hearing with secretary of state john kerry going toe-to-toe with lawmakers opposed to the deal. joining me is iowa senator joni

ernst. senator, gras et toeat to have you here on "new day." >> great to be here. thank you so much alyson. >> i know you are opposed to the iran deal. what have you learned that makes you so opposed to this? >> well, first, this to me is a pathway to nuclear armament for iran. this deal does not stop them from developing nuclear capabilities. it only freezes it for a short time. second we have dollars, billions of dollars that will flow into iran. and we know that they are a state sponsor of terrorism. so we can't allow that to happen. these people are not our allies. they are not going to change overnight. i see that it's a pathway to nuclear armament not getting rids of it. >> what the administration has said is this is the best chance to monitor iran. that the iaea being able to go into sight is the best chance

that the world has of knowing what iran is up to. in fact it just this week as you know joint chiefs martin dempsey and ash carter both said they support the deal because it is preferable to any sort of military alternative. what is your response? >> well, my take on it and i reject this premise because the president has stated over and over again that the only other option to this deal is war. and again, i reject that and asked that specifically of general dempsey yesterday. and he stated that he did not advise the president that it was either war or this deal. and that there are many other options on the table. >> such as sorry to interrupt, but such as what would you have done differently? >> well, i think that we still have those dip loedlomatic options. i reject they won't work with us, especially if we are able to work with many of the other countries that are negotiating this deal.

we have to look at what we are doing to stop nuclear armament and protect other countries around the globe. that is not happening with this deal. as i stated it provides a pathway to nuclear armament for the iranians. it doesn't stop them at all. they are still a state sponsor of terrorism. >> and when you say dip loed maic options, what does that mean? >> well, that means that our world leaders need to get together. they need to continue with the economic sanctions. there are military options which are always left on the table, but that should be last resort. so we do have to keep those discussions going. we have to intensify the economic sanctions. they are working. however, iran will continue to push against those that we consider allies. they will continue to call for death for americans. we can't allow that to happen. >> of course with the administration we have said that we have had economic sanctions. and during the time of sanctions

iran has exponentially grown their centurysent centrifuges. >> but it did slow them down and we are allowing them to continue with their enrichment. they will be able to purchase conventional weapons in a short period of time. so now not only have we not stopped their nuclear capabilities and development, but we have also escalated a conventional arms race in the middle east. >> senator, we also want to ask you about planned parenthood. so much in the news in this past couple of weeks. you have sponsored a bill to defund them. and the argument against that is that planned parenthood provides a whole host of services beyond abortion services. they provide birth control, they provide cancer screenings that tens of thousands of women and women rely upon.

so what is your answer to that? >> well, my answer to that is yes, we are planning on defunding planned parenthood through this legislation. but we are not decreasing the dollars that are available for those very important screenings and other services offered to women and to men as you mentioned. that money can be applyied for by other facilities such as hospitals and community health centers. so those services are still available. and if you look at the wide range of services that are available, planned parenthood only does about 10% of those screenings overall in this nation. very very small participant in those types of activities. we want to make sure that women still have access to health care and that can be done through many other means. we are not planning on lowering the number of dollars. those dollars are still going to be there. just not available for planned parenthood. the videos released are

extremely disturbing. we want americans to speak out against this. >> what planned parenthood would say is that what women, particularly low income women need is access. and the clinics provide access. so every time you close a clinic it makes women have to go further to find that hospital or further to get that birth control. and without the clinics being open that there will be exactly what you don't want which is more unwanted pregnancies. >> no i reject that because there are many many more thousands of community health care centers, hospitals, easy access to those types of activities. planned parenthood i believe, has maybe around 800 clinics nationwide. there is still easy available access. even in the rural areas. i come from a rural area and we have many community health care centers as well as county

hospitals and so forth where we can receive those services. >> very quickly in our remaining time we want to ask you about the presidential race and in the all-important state of iowa your home state, there's a new poll out this morning to show donald trump in the lead. this is from the quinnipiac poll with 20%. his closest rival, scott walker 13%. he has twice as much as jeb bush who has 10%. do you believe that iowans will make donald trump a leader? >> well, today i'm not going to speak for all of iowans because we have a very interesting caucus process which will be coming up at the beginning of next year. i think it's an exciting time. we have a lot of candidates that bring a lot of different skills and abilities to the table. and we'll see what iowa says here in the next six months or so. >> we sure will. at the moment the latest we have from iowa shows scott walker in the lead at 19%. donald trump with 17%. so senator joni ernst, thank you so much for taking time for "new

day." great to talk to you. >> thank you, alyson. have a great day. much more in the major development for flight mh370. how will investigators find out if this newly-discovered piece of debris is connected to the missing plane? that's ahead.

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it is consistent with what they would expect to find on one of their 777s. the engineers have looked at this and see elements that match up to the things they build. so it matches the first part of the criteria that it could come from this plane. if you roll it around i can show you our industry analysts believe it would be from the backside of the left wing over here. first match, it's the right type of thing to be from the malaysia airplane. it's also the right color and in the right condition. it's covered with barnicles to suggest it has been at sea for 500 days. now they look for the serial numbers you would find in every part of the plane. this is a seat from another plane. if they find the serial number on this new piece they find and it matches the malaysia plane, that's it. that will be proof that the plane definitively crashed and no other strange thing happened to it. but it doesn't answer the question where it wound up where

it was. remember throughout this process we have been talking about the search area being down at the end of a long flight with a plane running out of fuel and then going into the water somewhere off the coast of us a industrial ya. australia. why is this piece some 2300 miles away? could it have flown that direction and could the theory be wrong with the line straight over to reunion island? not likely. honestly this part right here you're looking at that's where it would have run out of fuel. it wouldn't have come close. more likely our analysts say what you should be looking at are the ocean currents. the idea maybe it went down exactly where they thought it did and over time it has slowly washed along in the currents and then pushed over here toward reunion island. and that's why this is the spot where they found what maybe, maybe is the first physical piece of proof about what happened to the malaysia air

flight. >> tom foreman, thank you. it's been an agonizing ordeal for the families aboard mh370 filled with false alarms poor communication. the families today understandably anxious but weary about this new major development that could finally give them some answers. we're to speak with a woman whose partner was on board that flight coming up. ♪ every auto insurance policy has a number. but not every insurance company understands the life behind it. those who have served our nation. have earned the very best service in return. ♪ usaa. we know what it means to serve. get an auto insurance quote and see

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breaking news. investigators racing to reunion island near madagascar to see if a piece of debris that washed up could be from missing malaysian airline flight 370. an official told "new day" we could find out in the next 24 to 48 hours if the debris is from mh370. the discovery is a significant development. robin creole is live with the very latest from reunion island. robin? >> reporter: well, yes, it is a considerable distance from where the initial search area is just off the coast of australia.

more than 2,000 miles, really off the coast of western australia is reunion island where we are now where the supposed debris was found. many people saying that it could be could, in fact be the missing mh370 flight that has been one of the biggest aviation mysteries in history. just to give you a bit of detail about that. australian transport safety officials say it's not inconsistent with drift modeling. that's gyres and currents so that's what they are expecting. it is within their search area and not inconsistent with the search area they are covering. but it is not an exact science. it has a lot to do with surface currents wind direction and how an object floats in the water. here's what we know so far, john. mh370, the wreckage found, we do not know for sure at this point. the prime minister of malaysia stating that it is very likely to be the boeing 777 that's

missing. however, it is not confirmed at this stage. the boeing 777 wing component found. it's the same model as the mh370. only one boeing 777 has crashed over water and is still unaccounted for. and that is mh370. boeing conducting initial assessment of the debris. australians analyzing the barnacles on the wing. and france is leading the investigation and it's coordinated by france. that piece of debris is going to be flown to the central -- where basically the civil aviation authority of france, bea, will conduct the tests and inviting malaysia and australia to be a part of that. >> robyn, thank you for all the latest from reunion island. we appreciate it. the families of those aboard flight mh370 are looking for answers of what happened to their family members more than

16 months ago. phillip wood was among the 239 aboard mh370 and sarah is joining us now. after 500 days to get this news of a likely piece of debris what was your initial reaction? >> well, on the one hand i really don't want it to be part of 370 because that way we can still keep hope out that it wasn't an ocean crash. but on the other hand i think we're all pretty exhausted by the process and need a little bit of closure at this point. >> yeah i can imagine. this is a very trying time. and there have been so many false starts and false claims along the way. i can imagine that you probably want to say or stay cautiously optimistic but somewhat skeptical. >> yeah skeptical would be the better word because how can you be optimistic about such confirmation of bad news. but i'm very glad that it's in french territory because at least an independent country without too much skin in the game is looking at it.

and they have a set of experience in looking at air crashes as well. >> that's a very good point and want to dig deeper with that. in terms of how you are being updated, i know you have been quite critical over the past year almost 16 months as we have been saying of how the investigation has been handled. how are they updating you or are they updating you at all? did you receive news of this possible debris? >> i did receive an e-mail update from the jacc that's the australia investigative group saying that there was an unconfirmed sighting of debris. it came within the last couple of hours. since the australians took over they have done a good job with that kind of paper. or e-mail format update. but it's usually about a day behind what we see in the news. so i'm not sure how useful it is. >> well, i know you've had great concerns about the malaysian handling of all of this. just a short time ago the

malaysian prime minister said, and i quote, i promised the families of those lost that whatever happens we won't give up. what is your reaction to that statement from him? >> i remember mary poppins saying that's the pie crust premise, easily made easily broken. the prime minister of malaysia has lied about so many things including money he takes from his own people that i don't think we should put any credence there. they are the responsible parties for allowing this plane to go missing to start with. they were sleeping on the job and not doing what they should have done. so my hope is that if they do find the crash site ultimately that there might be evidence to point back and be held accountable. >> they are saying it is very likely it is a boeing 777 and because of through the process of elimination it's likely because there are no other planes unaccounted for in that area. confirmation could come we are told here at cnn between 24 to 48 hours. how will you process that time

sarah, the next 48 hours? >> i'm here with -- in atlanta with friends and family. so -- i -- i can't even answer that other than just to say that at least some news. i mean this is literally the first thing, the first thing that is of any substance in almost a year and a half. you know it's astounding to me in this day and age. >> you're not alone in that. you're not alone in that. we feel very much the same way. and i'm really glad you're there with your family. you have some support with you during this time. i almost hate to ask this sarah, do you still hold out hope that your partner, phillip, the love of your life is still alive? >> well, i know it sounds crazy, especially for somebody as logical as me, but you know in the absence of a body and the

absence of even confirmation of a crash, how do you not hold out hope? i mean -- how could you just walk away from the potential, however small it is that some miracle has happened? stranger things have happened in this world. so you know at least a crash confirmation would let us know that the plane was in the water and highly unlikely there would be survivors. so that would give a point of closure. but we still need to find the wreckage and still need to have dna confirmation. >> and i understand the mixed emotion about that debris. whether it is wonderful to know that finally there could be closure and wonderful is such a horrible word to use, but i understand the mixed emotions and many of the viewers will too. thank you so much on such a hard day. thank you for joining us today. >> you're welcome. >> we're going to keep asking those questions. thank you. our heart goes out to her. a new poll gives a clear sign

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the national journal. donald trump is driving the republican national race. this is a national poll 20%. scott walker 13%. jeb bush at 10%. without a doubt, a lot of us said come on is he a serious candidate? at the moment with the first debate a week away donald trump is the driving force in this race. now i want to get to something. we keep asking controversial statements about immigrants and john mccain. will something put a dent in his armor? this is about a real estate case in florida. donald trump was involved in a deposition and the attorney involved was on "new day" yesterday morning. donald trump reacted in an interview with dana bash. he's the he said/she said. >> when i said that i needed the break, and it was for breast pumping purposes he got up his face got red, he shook his finger at me and he screamed

you're disgusting you're disgusting and he ran out of there. >> she wanted to breast pump in front of me. and i may have said that's disgusting. i may have said something else. i thought it was terrible. she's a horrible person. knows nothing about me. >> again, she said/he said. we'll see if there's a stenographer in the room to come out to give their account of what happened here. >> he confirmed her account. >> to a degree. he said he didn't blow up or storm out of the room. >> he said i may have said that. >> he said i may have said she's disgusting. but can donald trump afford this? again, we always ask, do the rules apply to him? if the national poll among women, 29% view him favorable. 61% unfavorable. that's off the charts compared to any other candidate, period. if you look at the two swing states of iowa and new hampshire, favorable among women in new hampshire, 22%.

69% unfavorable. it's all voters not republicans. in iowa 27% to 63%. very hard to see him, if you look at match-ups against hillary clinton right now, he's the weakest. he says he'll beat her, but at the moment on paper he's the weakest republican candidate because of the gender gap. >> the short answer is no he cannot afford that. but yet again, it gets to this idea that the regular rules don't seem to be applying to him in this summer. now, if you play this out long term he can possibly win the nomination or presidency if his numbers are like that with women. if his numbers are down with hispanics, then definitely not. but this summer he is saying things on other issues that are appealing to a big portion of the republican electorate. and i don't think in the next couple of weeks you're going to see that change much. >> i have a problem in the media. we'll ask if this will have an effect. if it does not have an effect we say the voters don't care. it's our responsibility to make sure the voters care. if a man looked at a woman, he

confirmed it in a room something that is very natural, he called her a horrible person. he called a respectable lawyer a horrible person. that suggests to me that he's a horrible person and need to hold him accountable because he could be president. >> part of his rise in thele who lele polls, we saw the conservative base that thinks their leadership has not done anything about this issue of immigration. listen to this interview with dana bash. for a long time he refuseded to say what he would do with the 11 million undocumented ill grant eded immigrants in the united states. listen to this answer. >> i would have an expedited way to get them back into the country so they could be legal. >> to the conservative republican base that's foolish amnesty. you're going to spend millions of dollars to round them up and throw them out and put them at the front of the line to come

back in? can he sell that to the conservative base that right now is his point of support in expedited -- just the word expedited, they say the people round them up and throw them out. don't let them back in or throw them to the back would be of his position it's exactly the same as what president obama and the gang of eight in the senate were pushing, which is if you're here legally now and you don't have a criminal record you can get back in the country and gain legal status. >> it's a lot more expensive. it's gold plated amnesty. how do you sell that to the right? >> this issue of immigration has been quicksand in republican politics for years. >> policy on the fly. interesting to see. thanks so much.

the mystery surrounding flight 370 took a significant financial toll on malaysia airlines.

malaysia airlines watched its business really suffer following two major tragedyiestragedies. with all the news today, where does the airlines stand? >> they have been in a downward sfierl spiral for years now. that was quickly followed by the downing of flight 17 over ukraine. the airline was pulled from the stock market. then the company launched a $1.8 billion restructuring plan. that incorporated new routes putting in new management. even before the tragedies, malaysia airlines was really in trouble and had been through several restructures and received billions of dollars from the government. what's next for the company? well the new ceo says he expects

the airline will go public again eventually. the focus is on bringing cost down. and despite the increasing brand loyalty inside malaysia there's actually talk of changing the name which is associated with disaster and tragedy. we are following major developments in the search for flight 370. experts say the debris found is very likely that of a triple 7 airplane. what to do when you're stranded in a city and you need a last minute hotel? a priceline tonight only deal! stuck out on the range? nowhere to rest your beard? choose from thousands of hand-picked hotel deals at the very last minute. only on

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one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. . good morning, everyone. it is thursday july 30th. we begin with breaking news the it is being called a very significant development in the search for missing malaysia airlines flight 370. it appears to be the same type of plane that went missing last march. >> the malaysian government has dispatched a team to investigate. an australian official telling

us -- she's live in reunion island. the only correspondent at the debris site. robin? >> reporter: hi there. yes, from what we understand at the scene there has been a police helicopter flying up and down the surrounding beaches as well as st. andre where the debris was found yesterday by passers passersby. police have been telling locals to please go and look and see if they can find any debris themselves. they are aware of this piece of debris that was washed up to shore yesterday. it was found by people who were cleaning the beach. let's figure out exactly how that happened. a possible crucial clue and major lead in the 17 month old mystery of missing malaysia

airlines flight 370. >> this is obviously a very significant development. it's the first real evidence that there is a possibility that a part of the aircraft may have been found. >> reporter: a piece of debris possible part of a wing of what appears to be a boeing 777, which same model as the missing commercial airliner. french and malaysia authorities dispatching teams to the island to investigate the debris which washed up more than 3700 miles away from the current search zone. this man telling a reporter he saw a wing as he walked closer to the debris. the debris bearing a marking bb670, which could helps in the

identification process. flight mh370 vanished without a trace in march of last year with 239 souls on board shortly after take off from kuala lumpur on route to beijing the the government declaring the missing plane an accident everyone on board presumed dead. now, after almost 500 days of empty leads, this may be the first piece of physical evidence bringing authorities one step closer to unlocking the mystery of the ill-fated flight's disappearance. and to further unlock that mystery, that piece of debris will be taken to the bea. that is where the french will oversee the investigation, oversee the i guess testing that will be done to confirm if this is part of mh370. officials will also join in that

investigation and australia and malaysia officials will continue to search. >> the recovery of this piece of debris comes almost a year and a half after the nonstop search efforts for the plane largely focused on the western arc of australia. how did the debris get from over here all the way to reunion island some 2300 mayiles away? >> reporter: this has been an extraordinary part of the story. 500 days after the mh370 took off, now only starting to get some identification perhaps of debris from a crashed plane. that flight took off and disappeared from radar fairly soon after taking off. and the initial investigation -- this whole search was spread over a huge area. people were looking along the

flight path. but as it became apparent that the plane had turned back shadows of radar images had turned back from malaysia. that search widened toe a stage of 4.6 million square kilometers was under active investigation. that's an enormous area. 26 countries at that stage were involved. obviously malaysia. the u.s. was involved. china. australia of course. pakistan bangladesh. yielding nothing. and as the technical analysis addvanced investigators starting switching their gaze to the far southern areas of the southern indian ocean. only three countries still searching. that's australia, which is leading the search. malaysia of course. and china, 153 chinese nationals

on that flight. and that's where we are at the moment $100 million later and we still don't know whether this is the actual debris and when you'll be able to link it back to where that plane actually is. back to you. >> it has been an incredible or ordeal. thank you for that. it has been an agonizing wait for the families of the people aboard the missing airliner. many are treating the news with caution. will ripley is live in beijing. he has that part of the story. what have your learned, will? >> reporter: we're talking to the families here. and they really do feel left behind and left out of the loop right now. because unlike when the plane disappeared, they don't have the support network, the infrastructure the information center they don't have a hotline or psychologists to

assist them. one of the women we spoke with said her heart is tortured right now. this has brought her right back to early march of last year. some of those families are putting out a statement right now. obviously this is such a hard time right now. they are saying quote, no matter where the debris is found, we care more about the whereabouts of our family members. whether or not the debris of mh370 is found -- the wife of patrick gomez also speaking saying i'm torn. if it is confirmed eded to have come from 370, there will be closure for us but i'm also hoping that it's not the plane, that patrick is still alive. that is the hope that is shared by so many of the families of those on board the flight. they're not getting information through the official channels. they have to watch the news just

like everyone else. >> let's take a look back right now at how we got to this point. the plane took off march 8th 2014. it went off radar just one hour into its flight. at that point the search centered around malaysia. they believe that the plane may have been on this arc. based on those signals they were getting, that's when the search moved closer to australia. ships searching this last area making a detailed map of the ocean floor to try to spot the plane. but still nothing but false alarms until today. in order to get to reunion island debris had to travel from australia or malaysia. that's called this the indian ocean gyre and its currents that spin counter clockwise. let's talk about all of this with your cnn aviation analysts.

daid is it's great to have both of you here. miles, what do you think about where this piece of debris has just been found? >> well there's nothing about the location of this piece of debris which would tell authorities to search anywhere else than they're already searching. so that's i guess, good news that they've been plowing through the ocean in the right spot. we know a lot of places where the plane isn't. but at least they're probably in the general vicinity. given the amount of time and the currents that we know of it stands to reason that the part would be just where it was found. >> the base of the search area is 2300 miles away from where this piece of debris was found. what makes you think it's the right spot where they're searching? >> exact in this case is not the right term. in mar sat engineers did a very clever engineering job just to figure out that the plane was on

a southerly course. and the search zone is much larger than the conventional search zone would be where you would find some wreckage in the water barkter backtrack it and come up with a bullseye. >> david, were you surprised by where this debris has washed up? >> not at all. because if we look back to april and may of last year they actually predicted that we wouldn't see any debris -- well that the debris would be that that area and that we wouldn't see any for 16 to 18 months. as far as predicting the currents and the gyre of that ocean, it is pretty reliable and exactly what we would have expected at this time. >> can you describe what this piece of degree is and what it might reveal about what brought down this plane? >> it's a flaperon. it banks the wings.

it deploys as the plane is on approach for landing to change the arrowir -- the question is why did it break off so cleanly. was it deployed? was it hanging out on the backside of the wing? does it mean the plane was turning at the time it hit the water? or perhaps in a more sinister fashion, was it slouwed down to allow it to land gently in the water to ditch? >> does that mean that somebody in the plane would have wanted the plane to go in the water in one piece? >> i think that's the conclusion you could come to. the autopilot could control the flaperon to bank the wings. it would not have deployed the

flaps to cause it to slouw down. >> david, what do you think about the fact that this piece is intact? what does it tell you? >> i think it's a reach to deploy as a flap. the autopilot cannot deploy as a flap. this aircraft by itself will try to fly straight and level. it's designed to do that. and the autopilot would extend or retract that flaperon. it is indicative of that flaperon being extended because of the way it was torn off. if the aircraft had gone in straight in a dramatic hit, the front of that flaperon would be damaged, because it would collide with the wing. whether it was extended or not, you'd see damage in the front of that. miles is correct that the only way it could have been torn off

and be in the condition it is is if it had been extended in some fashion. >> i guess my question is that it's a significant piece. we've seen other crashes where pieces are like little puzzle pieces. what does it mean that it's so big? >> one of two things. one, that the aircraft did land in a ditching fashion and would have more or less skimmed on the water. most of the damage when an aircraft lands on the water occurs after the initial impact. this could have been torn off and subsequent to that the aircraft could break into small pieces. but it's not what we would expect to see in an aircraft that did a direct nose in crash into the water, because it's like concrete when it hits in

that manner. >> we've heard from the commissioner in charge of the search that he believes in the next 24 to 48 hours we would know definitively. >> visibly this is a 777 part there's only one triple 7 missing. we're already at about 99.9%. there's some markings on the flaperon which indicate where it fits where its panels are supposed to go. they have removable panels. some of the codes on it match what a triple 7 panel code would be. and some sort of serial number would give complete certainty. every panel on an airplane has a serial number. once that number is located and matched against the maintenance records, then we can go with

100%. >> thanks so much. much more continuing coverage of flight 370 ahead. first, donald trump, a brand new poll out this morning shows donald trump creating some space, pulling ahead in the republican race. the nearest republican rival scott walker seven points back. look how far back jeb bush is. dana bash sat down with trump one on one. >> that's right. donald trump is now as you just saw doing very well in the republican field. in the year 2000 he considered running on the reform party ticket. about that time he wrote a book where his views were quite different than they are now. i asked him about that. on the train up here i bought your 2000 book the america we

deserve. >> right. >> $7.99 on amazon by the way. a couple of things jumped out at me. on abortion you were pro-choice. that has changed? >> i had an experience with a friend of mine who was frankly -- they were going to abort their child, which they ended up having and chair child is -- their child is like this magnificent person. i'm pro-life. >> you do think there should be exceptions for rape and incest? >> yes. and the health of the mother. you have some cases where the mother may die. it's basically ronald reagan had the same thing. he had the three exceptions. >> if you are the republican nominee, you would be the effective leader of the republican party. would you make sure those

exceptions are on the republican party flat form. >> i would discuss it very seriously with the people in the republican party. >> health care. you at the time said you were very conservative on most issues but liberal on health care. advocated a single payer system sort of canadian-style universe health care. >> at the time we were having not the kind of difficulty that we're having now with obamacare. it's costing the country a fortune. it's also a very bad form of -- it's very bad. people are losing their plans. they're losing their doctors. nobody talks about doctors are all leaveing the profession. i think the answer is going to be we have to knock down the borders and let people compete. i want to take care of everybody. you have a group of people who aren't able to take care of themselves. >> how do you do that? >> we're going to have to work out some kind of a deal with

hospital where isthey can get some help. if a conservative doesn't like the fact that i want to take care of somebody if they're really sick and they have no money, i want to help the person. >> how do you do that? >> we're going to have to work out a very smart deal with hospitals around the country. >> you're saying obamacare -- >> it's got to go. it can be done by private companies. i have to be able to compete. i want to be able to compete and go to a company in california iowa new hampshire -- and i'll get a good price. the only way the government should really be involved is they have to make sure those companies are financially strong so if they have catastrophic events they have plenty of money. other than that it's private. now, at the lower end where people have no money, i want to

try and help those people. and i don't think there's anything wrong with that. but i want to try and help those people -- now, it's not going to be like a good plan the finest plan that somebody that's made some money or has a good live can go do. but you've got to be able to help the people. can you imagine you have no money and you have no place to go? and you know what? if i lose votes over that that's just fine with me. >> because it would be government assistance effective effectively. >> you have to help people. >> interesting to hear his positions, playly how they lyparticularly how it's changed. >> mitt romney four years ago and eight years ago in 2008 as well he made really pretty much the same changes on abortion for example. and most conservatives for a while wouldn't give him the time

of day because they didn't consider him a real conservative. fascinating. i should also say that trump is now in scotland because the british open is at his golf course in scotland and he just landed. he said the world has asked me to be here. >> wow. okay. >> there you have it. >> thank you. a former university of cincinnati police officer is going to make his first court appearance in less than two hours' time. he is church he is charged with murder and involuntary manslaughter. >> reporter: in just about an hour and a half this young 25-year-old police officer is going to be in the courthouse right behind me his initial appearance before a judge.

under the law someone is innocent until proven guilty before a jury of his peers inside this court house. by but the prosecutor is saying this is murder. protesters pleading for justice in front of a cincinnati courthouse on wednesday. newly released body camera footage shows ray tensing shoot and kill samuel dubose. police officer turning himself in on wednesday after being dieted for murderdiet ed -- indicted for murder. the nearly 30-minute long video shows tensing pulling over dubose for a missing license plate. >> why don't you have your license on you?

>> i'm sorry. >> what happens next is hard to watch. >> i'm trying to figure out if you have a license or not. go ahead and take your seat belt off for me. stop! stop! . >> frame by frame you see the police officer reach for dubose's door. the car begins ss to move. >> the county prosecutor says tense ing tensing's account is misleading. dubose's mother saying she thanks god everything was revealed. >> i'm so glad that the plan that -- man that murdered my son is in jail now. >> the prosecutor said that the car slowly was rolling. he then immediately shoots.

the defense attorney for this young police officer said that the victim began to mash the accelerator down and then the shot rang out. and also today the defense attorney says will also be probably a bail hearing. >> such a disturbing video to have to see the jean thanks so much for the update. there are more breaking developments in the search for mh370. first, a new poll says trump continues to lead the field. put your hand over your heart. is it beating? good! then my nutrition heart health mix is for you. it's a wholesome blend of peanuts, pecans and other delicious nuts specially mixed for people with hearts. planters. nutrition starts with nut. when i lay in my tempur-pedic contour, then i slowly feel it start to kind of wrap itself around me... my mind just goes kind of blank- and the next thing i know it's morning. with tempur-flex you've got the spring and bounce of a traditional mattress and it also adjusts to my body.

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crowded race for republican is bobby jindal. great to see you. >> great to be back. thank y'all both for having me. >> let's talk about the hot issue of immigration. donald trump just sat down with our dana bash and he talked about his plan to fix immigration. let us play that for you and get you to respond. >> sure. >> you're supposed to come in legally. i would get people out and i would have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal. i would move them out and then move them back in and get them legal. they have to be in here legally. otherwise, you don't have a country. if people can just pour in illegally, you don't have a country. >> he wants to get them out, referring to the 11 or 12 million here illegally, get them out and then get them back in. >> what we need from the federal government is to secure the

border. we don't need a thousand page bill. we don't need the gang of eight approach we don't need the jeb bush approach. secure the border. >> how do you do that? >> one, we know it's secure when the board of governors tells you it's secure. i saw the border myself. they weren't sneaking across the border. they were coming across the border. one of the interesting things when texas, when they surged their resources to a particular part of the border what they found is people stopped coming in that area. now, they would go somewhere else but it shows you can stop people from coming across the border illegally. what happened in the '80s is the american people were told we need to do everything at once. they don't want to see that same failed approach again. >> you're being criticized for only having a border strategy.

>> donald trump just gave a limited plan. jeb bush has a more evolved plan where he does call for illegal status. what would you do with the people here? >> one, i think the american people would be pragmatic and compassion about the people here but i don't think they want that as part of the discussion of securing the board. our immigration policy can make us stronger or weaker. >> can you ever support legal status? >> let's not even have that conversation before securing the border? >> so you >> so you refuse to take a position? >> i think if they want to learn english, adopt our values, roll up their sleeves and go to work that can make our country stronger. we've got to get rid of the hyphenated americans.

we have proudly been the melting pot. that has made our country great. >> you say pragmatic and compassionate, that sounds like a path to citizenship. >> look the reason the american people are so skeptical -- we've heard that before. we havenesty without securing the border. >> i think we're not going to get an answer to that question no matter how hard we push right now, what to do with the 11 million million. >> i hear your timing answer. >> they want to know what's going to happen to them. >> look we are a compassionate pragmatic country. there's no reason -- if we don't secure the border it's 11 million today. who knows how many it will be tomorrow. >> let's talk about the race

right now. you're a candidate right now, one of i guess 17. a new poll out this morning, trump kind of pulling away at 20%. i believe in the poll you were at 2% in the polls right now. as it stands right now, you will not be on the stage as part of the ten candidates debating next week in the first debate. is that a disappointment? >> this is the first debate not the last debate. we're going to every single county doing town haullls. we stay until the last question is answered. a lot of the candidates don't have the experience to get the job done. i do. i believe if voters start paying more attention to this election we're going to do very very well. this is the first debate not the last debate. i'm happy to debate anybody, any

time anywhere. we're doing very very well in our early stage strategy. >> we want to ask you about the iran deal. the administration is trying to sell it to congress. this week senator ted cruz said if this deal is consummated, it make the obama administration the leading inging financer of -- >> i think it's bad for america. i wouldn't have said those words. i don't agree with those sentiments. those of us who have been opposed to this deal have been the voice of reason. i don't think we should give up that position. at the end of the day, iran and some of these other countries that have sponsored some of these groups -- i don't think that rhetoric is helpful.

>> donald trump calling immigrants rapists. ted cruise calling the obama administration state sponsors of terror. mitt romney has just tweeted he doesn't agree with the rhetoric it hurts the cause. >> i know a lot of candidates are going to say they have to say what will help them be as out landish as possible. >> is it helping them? >> i'm the only candidate that's offered detailed alternative to obamacare. this is a serious election. when i tell the voters in iowa new hampshire and those other states if you're looking for somebody to manage the slow decline of our country, don't vote for me. if you're looking for someone to go to d.c. and make the big changes, i'm your candidate.

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of debris is from mh370. this washed up on reunion island. that's near madagascar. let's get back to cnn's robin live from reunion island with the very latest. what do we know? >> reporter: hi there. yes. what we know from the australian transportation authority is that surface currents wind direction and just how high an object floats all of these makes it not an exact science where debris such as from the mh370 could end up. if this piece does end up to be part of the boeing 777 which has been missing for 500 days -- an agonizing wait for family members -- then that's exactly what happened. mh370, the wreckage found, here's what we know. boeing 777 wing component found, same model as the mh370.

only one boeing 777 has crashed over water and is currently unaccounted for. boeing has conducted initial assessment of the debris. australians are analyzing barnacles on the wing. and france and malaysia are leading the investigation. reunion is a french island. that piece of degree will be transported to the bea. also a malaysian vessel headed here to begin searching for any other debris floating inging around around being washed up onto shore. >> thank you for that. lots to discuss with our aviation analysts. also david gallow. he lead the search for missing

air france 447. i know that you have flown a triple 7. what level of confidence do you have that this debris is mh370? >> i still fly a 777. i'm skeptical. most pilots are that way. when i look at an airplane i look at a pristine wing when i walk around it and see an intact aircraft. this piece to me my first reaction was that looks awful bulky to be a triple 7. however, that being said boeing is making some pretty strong statements saying this could be it. i'm encouraged by it. it's compelling. i'm hoping that we have something more concrete that the people can bite their teeth into. >> david, you see them on the other end of the spectrum. your expertise would be used to see debris.

sadly, you're used to seeing debris. give us an idea of the condition of this debris after 500 or so elements. give us an idea of how the planes parts would react to the elements the sea water, the sun, et cetera. >> well the most important thing is that that creatures have been growing on that piece of the plane for 500-plus days if it's been in the water that long. >> barnacles and such right? >> exactly. and the oceans are not the same all the way across. they've got patches where things like to grow places where things don't like to grow and different chemistries. if you look at it like a piece of evidence the right team of biologists can actually dig into that and tell some story about where it came from and what it went through. >> we know that we certainly learned a whole lot from you

about the currents in that area of the world in the southern indian ocean. they move in countedr clockwise motion from east to west. if we would have modeled it why were we not searching that specific area off the ghost of madagascar before? >> i'm holding on here until i hear something from the bea, from the french because they will be very careful. those pieces have been on the move every day for 500-plus days. so hopefully if you backtrack 500 days it should take you right back to the search area the prime search area. it would be premature to look over there within a week or two weeks' time. >> fair enough. we know there's a lot of eyes out there looking in that area in the coastline of reunion

island. let's just suppose this is from mh370. what are they able to learn about what took that plane down by just looking at that chunk? can they tell a story from that debris? >> it's going to be difficult. i need to defer to our analyst to get into more of the details of it. but you can tell if it was a high speed, high impact type situation. that's a very vulnerable part of the airplane what came off of it. if that's indeed the part period some of the conspiracy theories are going to go away as far as the airplane being parked in pakistan. at this point they don't have a whole lot to work with. i think it validates the search area by virtue of the drift of where that part ended up. >> and quickly, are there other possibilities that investigators -- you know at

this stage in the game you have to consider every possibility. are there possibilities they need to be considering still here? >> no. i think we're going to have to wait and see what this piece can tell us and if there are other pieces around before they jump to those things. >> great to have you here with us. thanks for your expertise. >> there have been so many theories about what happened to the missing flight 370. we look at some of the more plausible ones, next. and it turned on everywhere else. but that's exactly how traditional cooling and heating systems work. so you pay more than you should. but mitsubishi electric systems give you a better way... with no waste and lower energy bills. control temperatures precisely in one or every room ... ...with no new ductwork. so everyone can enjoy ultimate personal comfort. mitsubishi electric cooling and heating. make comfort personal.

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flight 370. but first, a former university of cincinnati police officer expected in court this morning after a grand jury indicted him on murder charges for the shooting death of an unarmed man, samuel dubose. i want to bring in the mayor of cincinnati cincinnati. this is a challenging time for your city. >> it's very challenging. however, i'm very proud of our police department and our prosecutor for coming to the right outcome and our police department handling everything with great professionalism. it wasn't our officer involved in the shooting but our police department was monitoring the protests last night to make sure nothing got out of hand and it didn't. >> we've all had a chance to look at this video and it is troubling. i want to know what your

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. and good morning. we begin with what would be the first major break in one of the biggest aviation mysteries in history. any minute now we could found out if this piece of debris found near madagascar in the indian ocean is wreckage from mh370. that plane -- beijing vanished last march. this is where the triple 7 disappeared, more months authorities scouring a search zone off the coast of australia. here's where the debris was found more than 2,000 miles away