nidble at first. remember, sky jacking seemed insuperble in this country once. we have now stoppabled it. i don't know how terrorism can be stopped, but history is on our side. >> breaking tonight, u.s. sb intelligence believes somebody e someone in the cockpit deliberately set the plane on a course across indonesia and out toward the south ind yaian ocea. but who and why? the mystery that became a peeie of debris from a 777 and now what appears to be part of a suitcase is found on the beat. but there are still many questions and answers. our experts are standing by.

plus, trump surging in the newest polls. >> that's all they do is debate. they debate all over the plais and nothing happens. so i'm sort of the opposite. so i have no idea. i am who i am. >> i want to begin with the latest. evan perez is in washington and richard quest is in-studio. >> a u.s. intelligence agent says that someone dribbeliberat

eventually towards the south indian ocean. this was an assessment that was done for internal u.s. government purposes. and it's quiet separate from the investigation that's being led from malaiysia authorities. >> i believe the ministry of transportation found that the pilots were not at fault. so what evidence are u.s. officials basing this conclusion on? >> well, you know, this is based on satellite and other evidence that we have. it's going from kuala lumpur to beijing, if you remember. they said that they found

nothing in the background. they found nothing there. so you're right, it is quite opposing. >> so what's the next step here? >> the hope, don, is now, that they find new debris, that they'll find evidence to look at. the hop is now that they have pieces of the aircraft, one piece of the aircraft and luggage, perhaps they can find the reckage and try to resolve this. >> is the search continuing? is there an aerial zernl? >> absolutely. the debris has been coming ashore. we saw yesterday with new debris from mc 37 o making it sure that

a all of these are flying quite low helicopters. they've had searches out there. . they're asking everyone who sees something. >> let's talk about the discovery of this piece of the wing, okay. you've spoken to the person that had it been there for a while or had it just washed ashore? >> it had just washed ashore. so we've had two sets of debris. we had that which washed ashore yesterday morning now, our time. they describe it as what could appear to with the rem in and about e na about remnants of passenger lug angerer. that's the section from the plane. they're working on the theory that this could have come all the way here, some 2,3

unkilometers to counter current. they believe it is absolutely possible that this is mh-370. but they need to get it to investigators. this's what they're working on here today, don. >> so the same men that kis covered the suit case and the slats were on, is that just a coinciden coincidence. >> he is actually completely an exdraud their discovery this was. when they first saw sections of that plaep, a lot of the clean-up crew tried to drag it to shore. they were cleaning up what is so important about this that cling to a lot of this debris. that will help investigators figure owl why it was, how deep it was, where it's throated through. you know want, that looks like it could belong to a plane.

and it was his shoutings and his calling in. so the second day, his education e colleagues showd it to them. he's been talking to us yesterday emping and the morning before. rejust feels like 23 it's anyone hoe can be the camp fall, he hopes that someone has done kpaktsly the sachl thing. >> richard, what do you make of evidence reporting this new information? i seens like you reported something very similar early obama. sdm i's the cold facts of the whole piece. if you look at the kbaexact fac

it's -- the malaysia prime minister said it was a result of dlibl rat action. we've sort of heard people say that the way it was done, it was dlib rat. are they sayi ining ev oorks n are they just rooefing it as an assessment that somebody's turned the but ton. >> rimp ard, they're e're not going as far as that. that somebody had to have been in control of this aircraft to set it on the course where it went. now, how that happened, there's many theories. as you point out, it could be somebody in the dock pit cockp t

cockpit. >> it will be crucial to find whether or not the piece of this air kraft that washed on shore has any sign of any ne fars actors. >> this conversation coming up, the same day of what they found is to be believed the piece of a wing. what about a the timing? why is it coming at this point? >> it's partly because i situate e simply asked the question? i know that they're not the lead agency. the malaise yyans are the lead investigators. >> let's talk about these current patterns that we're going to start to see. we're going to talk about it, we've been talking about it a lot. are we going to see more debris washing ashore?

the suit case, possibly, could have fallen off of a cruise ship,: wlar. and then this. it's unlikely to wash up with reunion. and everyone furt other back, 2 eastern coast of africa. a lot of people are saying should they be searching at sea. much better off on the shoreline:

>> so show us only the plane where this is. >>. >> this here, the resident expert, the senior vice president ply kal kenty e what are they and what do they do sn and where are they? >> the flapper, cow can see between these two larger pieces. those are the flaps themselves. it combines the two aircraft. >> we've actually brought one down here to get a closer look. this is a replica of what you would see on a boeing 77. as you see this debris, gist

wampbed up on reunion isle lond. >> this ax which youly came from a triple seven. and this plate right here is a data plate. it's identification that comes only any component and tells you part number and sere yal flum beryl for that skpoent. you could see the data plate is mizing. >> and we saw some serial numbers on this? what will that help with? >> this is a whole assembly. so, inside this component, is there's a lot of serial numbers.

>> let's move on the other side here, guys. michael was just pointing out something about how there's no mistake e taking the e this cake from a island, i chould say. but why that confers, if you woman parable instead of coming out for a reunion, the attack are on the far side and one here, this tied to a big lick e linkage. you've got mounding points on the component it. >> that's very distint. >> and we've bb talking about where it ebded uch. is this incredibly bhoint? >> really good question.

so instead of the the aluminum alloys, it's got a lot of steed r sealed components inside. it would ploet e float or be able to carry along. >> does it tur prize you if we come back in 37-361. >> from what we've seen over the course of time and some of the can he think that they could have. >> it's something like this, dodge, that's dwoik to begin ini have goi fors crews. squl can we actually see more of it? we could bt see that much of it. >> we have some questions fir

ply kal. >> michael, come back on in here. we'll relay the question. >> okay, fine. the question really is mull would it have to be deployed, pearing in miebd e hind o on the loading edge oeft flach r flap r flavrp l. >> could this be deployed? >> you'll notice that the sent section didn't have any dajs. >> what does that tell you? >> the opponent could originally been wac in iz e its original

explosion. it's not surprising that there would be damage or some sort of forestive, you know, forcible removal from the air kraft itsz mplts . >> so what is the damage that you saw? just get a wider perspective of this capper on that we're talking about. of the damage and where you saw it, michael. what is significant about the position of the damage. j. >> the significance is there isn't any damage to that forward zexz. all of you're damage connells from the link anxiouses that

tells me that it had not been fully extended. >> all right, nick. thank you very much. america, you have been trumped. donald trump is surging in the polls and continuing down, continuing on his debate debut

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breaking tonight, a preliminary assessment says it appears someone in the cockpit steered the jetliner off course. . joining me now is miles o'brien and science

correspondent david sussi. cnn safety analyst and author of malaysia airlines? >> what is their leading theory? >> the i.g. is the group. they have been, in many ways, pushing the malaise yans and pushing everybody. what they've done is they've come up with a viert of scenarios for how this piece could have come off the air kraft. it probably happened in-flight or probably in a bank rather than brg ripped off. >> lot's taet's talk about what

talked about at the break. >> do you want me to sit here to say are you sort of saying, richard, why don't you state the obvious? this is clearly from mh-370. common sense might tell you it is. but you can't go to that final point of definitive statement until you're sure. for the very reason that those families are waiting to tell. how would you? you and i can sit here and think it, but we can't say it. >>. >> i would put it in the high 90 percentile. we know there's only one 777 in the world that's missing. it happens to be missing in the indian ocean.

>> i think we can say with a high tell gree of certainty. >> david, we've been talking about this small serial number missing from the degrbris that s found. not zur prizing it's been 500 some days, the currents in the indian ocean. >> it's very surprising, actually. but, remember, there's seven different models in this air kraft. the model that we saw isn't necessarily the same one as this one. >> okay. let's get some of the twitter questions in here.

we had been talking about the reaction. gomez. >> can satellite readings be wrong? >> the data isn't wrong. we've been over this so many times. and the group richard was just talking to, i'm proud, mooigs. they're not going to pin point the location but they're in the right search area. >> so if this piece of debris, any theories about what happened? that could be debungt here? >> there's lots of theories that we could now get rid of. most of them should never have been on the table in the first place. we can get rid of all of those theorem ris about diegogarcia.

realistically, common sense will tell us that the northern corridor can be gotten rid of. so jeff wiseik's theory falls apart. a hanger getting ready to be used in the future. we can land on the jungle or beaches or anything like that. >> if you listen to families today, think're holding onto hope that their loved ones are alive. >> and who am i to deny them that hope? >> can you tell us how the plane went down?

is there nick that will help determine what happened? >> it's interesting richard allude today this. nothing is bent or damaged on that end. a lot of people would suggest that this is fluttering in the airstream. and, as it fluttered, it caused a fatigue type of failure on the trailing edge.

so that's really interesting if you know that. >> if that piece of debris is from mh 46360. up nektsz, i want to get answers and answer mr of your questions.

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. back with me with our breaking news now. someone in the cockpit deliberately steering the plane off course. i want to talk more about the search now. the search with jeffrey thomas. he joins us via skype. also, captain tim taylor. a submersible specialist. so this is what you do. and you do the submersibles. are they going to trace these patterns and richard brings up a very good point earlier. this little strip right along the beach. why not madagascar? why not a longer piece of coast s . >> why not madagascar. there's trash all over deserted

beachings all over areas all over that area. >> does this change the search in any way? >> i don't think it does? i don't think they can extrapolate enough information out of this to get anymore information on that? >> the search is based on the data that hant changed. >> this question is from mh 370 hughes. we'll give this to jeffrey. any possibility of using sat liet data to backtrack the review trail over the last 16 months? is it like bread crumbs? any bred crumbs? >> jeffrey? >> possibly not using satellite iman ri.

but the university of western australia is quite adamant that they've got a very sophisticated, complex modelling occurrence in the indian ocean. and they're currently backtracking on the currents over the last 500 something days. we discussed this on your show. >> okay, let's dig in a little bit deeper. someone on twitter says area changed on the search area around the island. will it be the new search area? and you say it doesn't change anything? >> you're looking for the plan.

the search area where it's the m.r. sat data. they have to plug a lot more than just this in it. it may help a little bit, but, 500 days, in modelling like that, with all the factors, you have to have every weather factor in the last 5 hundays. what you will get, if you're right around the seventh arc, you'll validated, in a way. >> you've got to be careful. you're not automatically evaluating your own data.

you already know what it is. so finding more debris. finding different patches of debris. >> there were questions, might this one never be found? and each of you said it will wash up. one day u it will wash up. and i think you said in about a year. and that's pretty close, jeffrey. >> the university said we need more pieces of debris. they are one of the places in the world that does, in fact, track all the wealther systemings and all the currents

in this area, 24/7. so they do have a very complex modelling. they're pretty confident that they're going to bring this out of soet. they predicted this would turn up at the reunion island. at about this time, when we spoke a couple of days ago, they said well e well, we told you so. and they were right. >> a long shot, but what species are the goose barnacles, if they were a deep water species, that would have interest iing. >> they do have a stage that will attach to flotsum and jet spl du.

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he did talk a little politics, though. what can you tell us about this? >> as i'm sure you might expected, there's plenty of curiosity even in scotland. he started to sort of ramp down his expectations. but he also went to one of his reliable standbys which is to bash politicians. let's take a listen. >> the last few months, i've been a politician. >> you see him there holding his nose and add miting the fact that he is a politician.

>> we're so plitically correct in our country that people are sick and tired of it. and things right-hand turn getting done. i don't think -- certainly you want to be diplomatic. we're diplomatic and everybody hates us all over the kworld. we're plitically correct and the world hates the united states if you look at it. the world takes advantage of the united states on trade, on just about everything. and we're so nice to-yeah, they're nice. they're, as you say, politically correct. and, yet, we've never been more unpopular. it's probably almost never been a more dangerous time. >> i don't think you can out-trump donald trump. you're sort of hoping that trurp

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donald trump soaring in the polls. welcome to both of you. no other republican gets more than 6%, is there any stopping him at this point? the good news is every headline

has been for donald trump. nothing they're saying is resonating with the people. he's also actually being able to talk about policy. like what he wants to do with china. it's not like he's getting these one-liners out there. >> katie, do you agree with that? i agree with some of the things that were said. the reality is donald trump was tapping into a real anger and frustration within the republican party. by the truth is that a lot of the things he says just right-hand turn a plan e plan. it's not a plan to say i'm going to build a wall. at the end of the day, i don't think that the republican party is going to nominate somebody who is a bully. who hant been a republican, if

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let's move on. whether or not officials going to let him do that, i don't know. how can any other candidate compete with that? >> well, you know, the american people want a guy that can offer carnival rides, then they nominate donald trump. >> the president we have right now has more red carpet events than anyone in hollywood. >> guess what, it doesn't matter right now. >> the point is moot because we're just getting breaking news that donald trump will not be able to land his helicopter at the island state fair. >> too bad.

>> but he e'll be able to give t fried bananas or something for every kid. >> he loses significantly to any possible democratic nominees. to be honest with you, if he's at the top and he's still losing, he's still beating jeb bush. it's better than saying we don't need to elect him because he's losing to the democrats. why don't we figure out how we're going to support him.

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make sure you stay with cnn 2 for the latest. that's it for us tonight. i'm don lemon. thank you so much for watching. "ac 360" starts in just a moment. >> good evening. we have word tonight from two u.s. officials who say that american swell jens arraignen sills think someone in the cockpit deliberately moved the plane off course.