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elbagir live on reunion island. good morning, michaela. it does feel like for the families at least, there is a glimmer of hope. we headed down to the beach where new debris has been turning up. take a look at this. >> there's strong evidence to suggest that the wreckage found on reunion island does come from a boeing 777. that has not yet been confirmed. >> the wreckage discovered may possibly belong to missing airliner mh370. boeing investigators say they are confident the mysterious part comes from a 777. beach clean up crews discovered the wreckage on wednesday along the shore. a flaperon is part of an airplane wing. it matches schematic drawings.
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the numbers correspond to a 777 as well. >> a small part of the aircraft but it could be a very important piece of evidence. >> also washing ashore remnants of what appear to be a suitcase. though there is skepticism this piece of luggage may come from mh 370. island police confirm it is being included in the investigation. this wreckage discovered almost a year and a half after mh370 disappears. >> the fact that this wreckage was sighted on the northern part of the reunion island is consistent with the current movement. >> as investigators in france await the arrival of the debris a u.s. intelligence assessment suggests someone in mh370's cobb mitt may have deliberately set
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the plane off course. nobody wants to be responsible for giving false hope to family who is suffered so much. when you retrace the current, it could be mh370. it's going to be all about what happens when this finally gets there tomorrow morning. >> the first tangible clue in 500 days. thanks so much. that wing part that washed ashore heads to france tonight to be analyzed by french investigators. how long will it take before they find out if it belongs to mh370 or not? fred is live with more. good morning fred. >> reporter: good morning, john. it is quite a journey from reunion island to the south of france. that part is going to be on an 11-hour flight.
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it's going to arrive in paris saturday and brought down to the south of france saturday evening or sunday morning. the lab where this is going to happen is the dga lab. ift it's a french military insulation but a premier laboratory that deals with accident investigation. what they are going to do is look at markings look at numbers on the part. they are going to analyze the metal of the part to find out what plane it came from whether it came from mh370 and how long it's been in the water. very important, whether or not there might have been some sort of occurrence when the plane was in the air. did it break off on impact with water? all this analysis is going to happen here next week. unclear how long all of this is going to take and whether or not the investigators are going to give updates along the way. interestingly enough that
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suitcase that was also found there on the beach is coming to france. that is going to be analyzed at a lab outside of paris, alisyn. >> that could be in the interesting piece to the puzzle fred. thanks for that. meanwhile, the overarching question why did this crash happen? u.s. intelligence agencies are focused on the cockpit claiming someone changed course before it vanished. we are live on details with that. what are they saying, renee? >> sources are telling cnn that someone in the cockpit of flight 370 deliberately directed the aircraft movements before it disappeared. the assessment is based on satellite and other available evidence. we know they looked at the
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multiple course changes it made after it devuated from the course from kuala lumpur to beijing. analysts determined the flight path was the result of someone in the cockpit programming the aircraft to fly toward very specific points crossing indonesian territory and eventually going toward the south indian ocean. this was an assessment done for internal u.s. government purposes. it is totally separate from the investigation led by malaysian authorities. malaysian investigators found no proof of wrong doing by the airplane's crew. however, the recent discovery of this debris gives investigators hope they can now find the wreckage and more crucially, the black boxes. those intelligence sources telling evan perez, without that they likely will not be able to make a definitive
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conclusion about what happened to 370. michaela? >> thank you for that. meanwhile, for the families of the 239 lives aboard flight 370, the wait for answers is agonizing. remember more than 500 days. a group of familyies are saying they will not accept anything except 100% certainty the wing is from the flight. >> there are a growing number of families who, in addition to the emotion and grief, we sat down with a woman who lost her only daughter in the disappearance of flight 370. she sobbed and looked as if she had been hit with the news all over again even though it's been 500 days. not a minute goes by she doesn't grieve for her daughter and hope and pray she might come home. another thing is families are starting to talk about the legal issue, the compensation. malaysia airlines offered 50,000
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u.s. dollars in compensation to families. unless they were in dire financial straights, they didn't take the money. they want the freedom to sue, as this moves forward. there's a growing list of families right now, saying if the debris is confirmed to be from mh370, may will ban together against malaysian airlines. that's one story we are going to be following very closely, especially as word comes in whether this debris is confirmed. >> thank you. keep us updated. for more analysis on this two national security analyst. ladies thanks for being here. great to get both of your expertise this morning. juliet you have spoken to
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security contacts. what makes analysts so certain this was a deliberate act of some kind? >> i think certainty might be strong. let me tell you, just putting it in perspective. airplanes don't go missing. i know we spent a lot of time on airplane accidents. they are a rarity. in most instances, you can find out what happened relatively soon whether it's pilot error or something with the airplane. any good investigation will start from the premise that something went terribly amiss and that might involve a human factor. over the course of several months and looking at the flight pattern, it looked like there was deliberate movement from the cockpit. what they are going to do now is based on that assumption that something was going on in the cockpit, see if there's evidence to suggest that's not true. the suspicion is something was happening in the cockpit and maybe if something is found to
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prove otherwise, you know whether it's the airplane or something else there will be a new theory. i have to agree with investigators, since this is so rare that something was going on in the cockpit. >> mary why wouldn't it be a catastrophic mechanical event? >> well it could be. the interesting thing about this alleged leaked report the united states is one of the seven participating in the investigation. they have released almost 1,000 pages. itis not mentioned at all in the report. i think it is people saying we don't know what caused this plane to go missing and go down, so it must have been someone in the cockpit doing something. you can't make that leap in an investigation. i think that everything is still on the table. it could be mechanical or a problem with pilot incapacitation. everything still on the table.
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if the united states had anything to offer, they should have offered it to the investigation of which they were a party. >> mary i want to stick with you. you have so much experience with plane crashes. the piece that appears to be from the plane, the piece of debris the flap what does that suggest to you? >> well that's hugely important. it will be greatly analyzed. on that piece could be telltale evidence. not only will they look at how the crash sequence unfolded you can tell from a small piece if the plane was turning and spiraling as it went into the ocean. this had a directive on it a warning from the manufacturer from boeing the pins literally the bolts holding it on were weak. this could have come off in the crash sequence. maybe this part never went to the bottom with the rest of it if the bolts holding it on were weak. they will look for residue from an explosion, see if there's marking or pitting, chemicals
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that would probably be washed off in the water by now. they have potential to see how the plane got down but not why the plane crashed. >> juliet back to the investigation. so many countries are involved in this. this piece is going to france where it is expected to arrive tomorrow. it will be analyzed. you know the families of the victims on board here they have felt that the malaysian authorities have been less than straight forward with them. how will the u.s. make sure we are getting to the bottom of this and getting the answers? >> one, it will be there's a bunch of countries dealing with the investigation who have citizens who also parrished on that flight and that is you know they have standing so to speak, in these investigations. i will say one thing about malaysia and malaysia airways. being in crisis management a lot and advising companies, malaysia
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airways public statements defending their crew that nothing went wrong with their crew they are totally, that they are defending them already is a bad move on all parts. it is going to not only hurt the families what it does is focuses an investigation or makes them focus an investigation away from potentially pilot or someone else on the airplane doing something amiss. if i were malaysia airways, i would now begin to say all bets are off. let's let this investigation go forward in every way. as mary says we still don't know why and this is one situation. they have cut off open mindedness. >> what do you think about how they have handled it? >> well at first, the biggest problem was they totally
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excluded the families, they didn't do the briefings. the national transportation board, our body has a department to brief the families. they were so secretive. they didn't think they had to impart information to a hungry world waiting for information. that led to a lot of conspiracy theoryies theories. some of the theories have no legs at all, they are still conspiracy theories. itis important to keep everything on the table and we can only hope this piece offers clues as to why, not just how the plane went down. we have nothing but one piece of an aircraft. >> quickly, we have a piece of a suitcase. do you believe this also came from mh370 and does it stand to reason if one piece of debris washed up 2300 miles away from where the investigators are searching, we'll see other pieces soon? >> yes. i mean, if the suitcase is
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connected, there's a lot of trash in this ocean as we have seen. so many false starts when pieces were spotted and it turned out to be ocean junk. if there's one, the important thing is to comb those shores of not only reunion, madagascar everything in the area. it's a huge it's like a 250 -- 2,500 mile guyer. unfortunately, the black boxes do not float. they cannot be found anywhere except the ocean floor. >> thanks for all the information this morning. we'll have more in the continuing coverage throughout the morning. one quick programming note tune in tonight for a cnn special report vanished the mystery of malaysia airlines flight 370 here on cnn. >> we'll get back to that news. we have breaking news overnight. a palestinian toddler was killed in an attack in the west bank.
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they set the 18-month-old boy's home on fire. his parents and brother were severely injured. the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu described it as an act of terror. more unrest a vicious attack at a gay pride parade in jerusalem. the attacker was recently released from prison having served ten years for stabbing marchers at another gay pride. >> a 911 call capturing the panic and fear of a lafayette movie theater shooding. ed lavandera is live with more. >> the horrific moment that is led up to the shooting in lafayette. surveillance shows john russell houser buying his movie ticket walking past a concession stand and down the hall straight into theater 14.
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less than 15 minutes into the movie, houser pulls out a .40 caliber handgun and fires 13 rounds. these are the frantic 911 call that is began pouring in. >> shooting. >> he shot right at people. >> two people are shot. two people are shot. >> reporter: police raced to the scene. >> we need everybody over here. send everybody you got. >> reporter: the shooter tried to escape by blending into the crowd. >> he is inside. we have an active shooter here. >> reporter: the presence of law enforcement cause zed him to turn the gun on himself, but not before killing these two women and injuring nine more. >> down. we have seven with shot wounds. >> reporter: thursday night in lafayette, hundreds attended celebration in remembrance of the victims one week after their tragic deaths. >> just want to say thank you to
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everyone involved in finding my daughter. >> reporter: unite, honor, heal. ♪ gods grace will lead me home ♪ >> reporter: the main question still left unanswered for the victim's families and those wounded in the tragic attack why the man chose lafayette and chose that theater, those questions remain unanswered. >> always the question. so rarely do we get the answers. ed thank you for that. new this morning, beijing will host the 2022 winter olympics. beijing hosted the 2008 summer games, as you remember. it is now the first city to be awarded both the winter and summer olympics. the chinese beat out kazakhstan. they say beijing is reliable and
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safe choice despite the lack of winter conditions. >> lack of winter conditions? >> yeah. >> that's a problem. they had problem with snow in whistler and they are known for snow. it was a dry year. they had to truck in snow. how are they going to manage it in china? >> no one wants olympics anymore. no north american city was in the finals. it's too expensive and democracies can't handle it anymore. they have to go 100 miles to do the sports. donald trump claiming he's not preparing for the debate. what are the other candidates doing? we'll look at that, noex. no student's ever done the full hand raise in ap calc. but your stellar notebook gives you the gumption to reach for the sky. that's that new gear feeling.
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playing expectations about what will happen during the upcoming debate. he's spending another day in scotland today, instead of preparing for the big debate which is now just days away. >> a lot of primary voters in scotland. joining us to talk about this margaret hoover and editor and chief of the daily beast, john avalon. john how does he win the debate? >> spending a lot of time in scotland? you know donald trump is not going to be prepared. i have done debate prep for presidential candidates. it's very thor row. if you are donald trump, you are just being myself and why start acting like a politician and care about policies now? the expectations are very low. to some extent, that benefits him. do the candidates fire on trump?
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that is one thing to watch for. >> we have an example of trump dealing with policy or issues. here is how he responded to dana bash in terms of immigration. tell us if this will pass muster. >> you are supposed to come in legally. i would get people out and have an expedited way of getting them in the country legal. i'm going to move them out, let them come back in but do it legal. otherwise you don't have a country. you don't have a country. if people can pour into the country illegally, you don't have a country. >> i'm going to get them out and expedite them in. i that's what you call going mushy. that's exactly what the far right is going to think. >> they already are. >> that is so not going to fly with the republican party. however, this debate is not going to be a highly substantive policy oriented get into the
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weeds debate. ten people are on the stage. this is about who can have the better soundbyte. who comes off best in terms of performance. it should be policy oriented. the nature of it each person is going to get seven minutes throughout the course of the day to actually say things. >> he's going to be able to use his style over substance. >> his style is probably not going to change dramatically and probably not going to hurt him because this is it so far. >> trump's policy in a bumper sticker world. the interview with dana bash was great because it was stupid. it was impressive to hear him say we are going to replace it with something terrific. it's impressive in the audacity of it. >> he feels people will not hold him to the same standard and so
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far, they are not. we don't know. we haven't seen this before. i never believed i would see him on a debate stage. i don't think you would find a reporter who thought they would see him on a debate stage. >> so far, it's working out. >> let me ask you about the number ten seat. looks like john kasich could be on the stage. if he gets in it means rick perry, rick santorum won't be on the stage. it's a bit of a blow for them. >> it's a major blow. we should make the extra effort to watch the secondary debate. people who are three-term governors of america's second largest state. santorum came in second last time. chrischristie will make the debate. kasich very successful house member ran for office in his home state. there are substantive people trying to run campaigns being
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shut out by reality tv stars when it comes to being president. let's talk planned parenthood. they have been in the news because of the controversial undercover videos released. we will have the men on behind the video at 8:00. because of the videos it's giving republican senators in congress a renewed desire to defund planned parenthood. they get $520 million a year to planned harnthood. >> that accounts for 40% of their funding. republicans say the money that goes toward that funding goes to fund other operations and so the money they get from private donations funds abortion. in a way, we are supporting the largest abortion provider. here is what you need to know about anything that comes before the senate and the house. everything relates to the election. this is about setting the table
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on cultural issues for the 2016 campaign and republicans need a culture war issue to rile up their conservative base for the primaries, especially in iowa and south carolina and the southern states. abortion you all know my perspective on this. abortion is a smarter play than lgbt rights because of where the country is. the country is more divided about abortion. on some of the other social issues the right is litigating there is little discrepancy. >> i think two things to keep an eye on. first of all, if the republicans shut down the government by attaching it to a spending bill the senators running for president will be to absolutely want that fight, even if it leads to something creating backlash. democrats have a big problem. abortion politics plays along these lines. if you seem extreme, you lose.
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defending the videos however out of context they are seems gruesome. the way republicans want to present democrats is they are proabortion in all circumstances. these videos line up with that. the bill clinton formulation remains right, safe legal and rare. they are -- most of the time they welcome the culture war. this one is more delicate. >> correct. >> margaret john have a great weekend. coming up we will talk more about the 2016 race with the presidential contender and george pataki. in our 8:00 hour i will speak to the man who is behind those videos. he's part of the antiabortion group taking it by fire storm. stay tuned for that. the other big story, whether debris found in the western
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the latest on the debris that could be part of mh370. overnight, australian search authorities saying they are confident the recovered debris is in fact from the missing plane. they expect confirmation could come in less than 24 hours. the plane part is headed to france today for analysis. teams will be on site in europe and reunion island where the part was discovered. investigators are focusing on how it came detached from the plane. trying to get a sense of what caused the plane to come down. the u.s. is monitoring all of this. intelligence suggesting actions within the cockpit took mh370 off its intended course.
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is this part of the wing from the missing jet and how can it help search teams locate the fuselage? we want to turn to two aviation experts to answer questions for us today. many of you are asking on twitter #mh370 qs. david is the special project manager that took part in the search for france flight 447. and we have a 777 captain and editor of flying magazine. good to have you with us. i thought i would ask questions from our viewers. tower underscore air asks, how to tear it from the wing when it came off the plane and how it came down. >> it's hard to tell exactly how much force. even as we know how well done the hudson river landing was, it was a good impact under a
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controlled situation. one of the engines came off. there was a bunch of small pieces. with the flaperon that is potentially malaysia 370s, even a controlled decent could have torn that off. it is possible there are theories it could have come off in flight with a spiral situation. i doubt that. i see it impacting the water. the damage from the photographs indicates it was down slightly. the trailing edge of it as you see it there might have been impacted. the rest goes to the wing. >> what does this do? you can see them on the wing if you have flown over the wing. you can see them over the window. six feet long or so as you can tell. it combines it with a flap. >> newer technology puts them together? >> yeah it makes the airplane
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bank and the flaps slow the airplane down at speeds that are approach speeds. >> a little primer on that wonderful. let's talk to david about this. the u.s. assessment. that word is key. the assessment from months ago, suggesting it was someone in the cockpit that made the plane go off course. what was your gut reaction to hearing that the fact it was only released now. i want to get both of your reaction on this. it was released now. the assessment is not new information that's been gleamed. >> yeah i found it peculiar. why say anything and why now? i just as someone that would have been out there searching in the ocean having thought we
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heard everyone's opinion to focus in on a search site to have someone say months ago, we came up with this notion i don't know what to make of it or where it came from. >> how about you? does it add to what we know or make you scratch your head? >> i agree, it is peculiar. when we say a deliberate act, it may not have been nefarious. >> that's a good point. >> there's a scenario i came up with. it's possible we had a situation on the airplane. we can go back to all the theories. maybe there was a flight attendant that tried to steer the airplane with the auto pilot and tried to bring it back. >> so many possibilities. >> david, your turn for a viewer question. this is all that jazz from twitter asks this question. this is right up your alley. can the debris time lapse be fed
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into models to determine where they originated? >> sure. as it turns out, understanding the currents of the ocean are very important to understanding climate change. so people have been studying those currents. the challenge here though it's been 500 days plus. it's over almost the width of the united states in terms of distance. it would be incredibly difficult. you would have to have just the right model and know enough about the ocean systems, the winds, storms and monsoons whether the item was floating above or below the water. my hope is that it at least puts -- i'm sure the models will be done. my hope is it puts them somewhere around the present day search area not north of the equator. >> should they now be looking off the coast of madagascar or off the coast of eastern africa?
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>> for debris i think it's worth doing that to see if there's more debris. for the aircraft no. i think they have the right spot. >> thanks for taking our viewer questions. for you at home send questions about the debris the search for mh370. tweet them #mh370qs. we'll answer more in the 8:00 hour. alisyn? >> let's talk politics. 17 republicans running for president. ten of those will make the cut for next week's first gop debate. how do the others plan to get their message out? we will ask george pataki when he joins us straight ahead. wish your skin could bounce back like it used to? new neutrogena hydro boost water gel. with hyaluronic acid
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the discovery of plane debris reenergized the search for flight 370. joining us is a submersible specialist. great to have you here. we have put you on the map to explain to us where and how people are looking. we are standing where the debris was found. does it make sense to you that investigators are search inging for the black boxes off the west coast of australia? >> yes, that's their best lead and you can't abandon that lead. >> that's where the plane dropped off, last we know? >> that is where everything point that is it is.
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this is where everything drifted. you can't run away and abandon all your data and your good solid search area to chase, you know, leads that are thousands of miles away which it should be. >> let's talk about that. the scope of this search is monumental. it is 2300 miles to reunion mile. that's from west virginia to california. how do they -- i mean it's a needle in a hay stack. >> it is. it's a big area to cover and to send someone out to look and comb this is a waste of time. let the beaches be the filter. they will eventually wash ashore and make sure that people are aware in combing the beaches and reporting. it's a media thing. let people that are out there, that are living there to report things they find. >> as we learned about the
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gyres, there's a system in the middle of the ocean that churns from the western australia coast and spits things out over at reunion island. was this always going to be a 500 day cycle? >> i don't know if it's a 500 day cycle. there were eddies and currents that could have gone around twice. the current model shows it hasn't. there are tons of pieces out there. what's changed in the last week is there's an awareness they are coming ashore in this area of the world. so people looking, finding, can bring this to somebody and say hey, this may or may not be something. post it online. >> like the suitcase. it is a suitcase. some place to get these things to. people will be aware of this now. >> here is what's fascinating.
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the university of western australia created a computer model, last year as you know that predicked these currents and that gyre would carry wreckage to reunion island in 18 months. they did figure out the time. low and be hold it pops up there. >> how long has it been sitting on the beach? that has to be figured out. >> can they figure that out? >> with this item yes. with what's growing on it yes. this was mainly under water. it's like an iceberg. it's driven by the current, not the wind. they can be in different places. if we get more debris that are different buoyancy they can plug it into the model and have a better model to track back. they need more items. >> need more data. >> exactly. more data. >> back to the vast scope of
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this. 21,000 square miles have been covered. the depth of the ocean around where we are standing was 15,000 15,000 -- how far down can the submersibles and drones search the seabed? >> searching is not about death, it's about massive space. we can get machines down there, it just takes time and the technology dependent on doing that is expensive and not a fast thing. so it's a matter of resolve and cash and capital that is going to end this or keep it going. explain how it works. you map the ocean floor. >> correct. >> and that is expensive and dangerous and difficult. >> it is. even when you map it it's no
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guarantee you can see it. it could be over a ledge. if you are looking at something and over a ledge, it's taking picture of sound. that's what sonar is. if it's blinded by something, behind a crevace or something. >> you predict because we have found this one piece that appears to be from mh370, now, along the shores we may see more. >> there should be more debris coming up. it's a matter of time and people -- the shoreline over there is not all inhabited. it's deserted rocky shoreline. there's a lot of stuff that may never be found. >> thanks so much for your time. we are following a lot of news this morning. let's get to it.
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more than 16 months since mh370 vanished. we still do not know why. it looks like there was deliberate movement from the cockpit. >> a small path of the aircraft but it could be a very important piece. >> not a single minute passed without me thinking about them. one week before the first republican presidential debate -- >> they debate every night of their life. that's all they do. >> some guys hearing about one candidate. >> they are desperately trying to figure out how to get air time. >> criticism. now the dentist finds himself being taunted. >> i'm so disgusted with that man. appalled. announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. good morning and welcome baa to your "new day." chris is on assignment. john berman joins us. we begin with breaking news.
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officials are growing confident that the plane debris that washed up on reunion island is from malaysian airlines 370. the piece will be sent to france so they can hopefully make a definitive identification. >> u.s. information suggesting someone in the cockpit deliberately took the plane off source. we have this story covered from every angel only the way cnn can. we are live on reunion island. >> reporter: the focal point continues to be on the stretch of beach where much of the debris washed up. the hope is if anymore does turn up it will allow investigators to try to map that counter current that could possibly have brought the debris from the initial search sight across the other side of the indian ocean off the coast of australia. we headed down to that beach to
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take a look for ourselves. look at that. >> strong evidence to suggest that the wreckage found on reunion islands does come from a boeing 777. that is not yet being confirm. >> reporter: the wreckage discovered on this remote beach on reunion island may belong to missing malaysian airliner mh370. boeing investigators say they are confident the mysterious airplane part comes from a 777. beach clean up crews discovered the wreckage on wednesday, locating the flaperon along the shore. a flaperon is part of an airplane wing. investigators say the photos match schematic draws from a boeing 777. they show a stencilled number for a 777 as well. >> a small part of the aircraft but could be a very important piece of evidence. >> reporter: also washing
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ashore rem nans of what appear to be a suitcase. there's skepticism this may come from mh370. island police confirm, it is being included in the investigation. this wreckage discovered almost a year and a half after mh370 disappeared, located 370 nautical miles away off australias west coast. >> it was cited on the morn part of the island is consistent with the current movement. >> reporter: as investigators in france await the arrival of debris a u.s. intelligence investment suggests someone in the cockpit may have deliberately set the plane off course. it's all about answering the family's questions as quickly as possible. the debris will leave the island this evening. it is expected in france tomorrow morning. we spoke -- cnn spoke to the lan
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that is going to be involved in this. they worked on the 2009 rio crash. they feel they have the equipment to try to get answers here. >> before we let you go help us understand how this part was found. was it on the beach or in the water? >> reporter: it had washed up on the beach. the beach clean up crews found it. the crew dragged it across the pebbles and began scraping much of the crucial evidence the sea life that was clinging to it before one of the crew realized what it was and he told us it came to him. he realized this is a plane. if it's a plane, it must have been part of a crash and people died here. he was instrumental in making sure that the evidence what remains of it is still exact. he is down there, on this beach today, searching again. alisyn. >> remarkable presence of mind.
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thanks for the back story. so interesting. the wing part heads to france for analysis. cnns senior international correspondent fred is live with more. where do they start, fred? >> reporter: they start on reunion island. it's an 11-hour flight from there to paris where the part is headed initially. we expect it to arrive sometime on saturday european time. then it heads to the south of france. probably saturday night or sometime sunday morning. it is going to come to a lab that is part of the french defense ministry. it is an organization with a lot of experience dealing with things like this. it is the premier institute to look at parts when there have been accidents with airplanes. one of the things it scientists are saying is they are going to do several things. they are going to look at the outside of the flaperon. they are going to look at
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numbers and see how they correspond to mh370 to determine whether or not it is part of a 777 and whether or not this is part of mh370, then go to analyzing the metal of the piece of debris that was found. they are going to see if again, it is part of the plane and how long it was in the water, how long it was on the beach and where it might have traveled. one of the things they are able to do is try and discern whether or not it fell off because of midair explosion or whether or not it was upon impact with the water surface. the analysis is going to take time. we expect it to happen next week. the other thing we don't know is whether or not they are going to give updates along the way or whether there's a large report at the end of the analysis. one interesting factor, the suitcase that was found is going
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to be brought to paris. >> thanks so much. u.s. intelligence remains focused on the cockpit, sticking by the theory the plane was deliberately taken off course before it vanished from radar. renee marsh is live with details. >> reporter: this morning, sources tell evan perez an assessment by u.s. intelligence agencies says someone in the cockpit deliberately went off course. we know an analyst looked at the multiple course changes made after it deviated from due walla lumpur to beijing. they determined the flight path was the result of someone in the cockpit deliberately programming the aircraft to fly toward points crossing indonesian territory and eventually toward the south indian ocean.
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this was an assessment done for internal u.s. government purposes. it is totally separate from the investigation led by malaysian authorities. it is worth noting malaysian investigators found no proof of wrong doing by the crew. however, the recent discovery of the debris gave hope that they can find wreckage and the black boxes. they tell evan perez, without that they likely would not be able to make a conclusion about exactly what happened to mh370. >> they hope that conclusion can come within the next 24 hours. renee, thank you for that. for the families of the 239 people aboard flight 370, the wait for answers is agonizing. a group of chinese families are banning together saying they will not accept anything but 100% certainty it is from mh370.
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will is live with that part of the story for us. >> we are talking with the families feeling more comfortable after a lot of them released statements yesterday. some of them have different emotions in how they are handling it. their body language is the same. they look defeated. they look like they have been weighed down. it's quite an ordeal that most people could never imagine what it's like. it's more than 500 days not knowing what happened to the people you love. we have one interesting quote i want to read to you from the daughter of the chief stewart of mh370. she said quote, a part of us wants this to be true but at part of us does not want it to be true. we hope that one day they will come back. if not, it's okay. other family members remain skeptical of the information they are getting from their government. all they have been fed so far is misinformation. even if the debris is confirmed
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to be from mh370, they want to know where the plane is where the remains are, where the proof is loved ones are not alive. 16 months in people not willing to accept the plane has been lost. wondering if there's a day they will be reunited with their loved ones. >> will ripley in beijing. david soucie is an investigator and cnn counterterrorism analyst. phil let me start with you. you lurk in the shadowy world of intelligence. when you hear officials telling cnn it is their assessment their plane was deliberately flown off course what does that say to you? >> i would be concerned about taking this assessment as evidence or information that is solid. a couple clues, they use a word that is a term of art in this
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business. likely. it's likely in their judgment the plane was moved off course. all that means is they judge. there's a greater than 50% chance that's what happened. i wouldn't go to vegas with that. if we look at this information, it's not evidence it's information. we judge this is what's happened. one more thing, in 25 years of this business i learned one lesson. be careful about the distinction of what you think and what you know. people who are not experts in aircraft the intelligence guys think it was taken off course. that is not a fact. >> this is coming from intel guys right? >> that's why if you are in the leadership of intelligence you have your head in the sand. you have an internal document where somebody said we spent a lot of time trying to determine if it's a terrorist event. intel guys say it does not
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appear to be terrorist. what's your best judge of what happened? they are not specialists on what happens to airplanes in cockpits. i don't blame the intelligence committee for doing the assessment but be careful. >> you are an aviation guy. when you see the report what do you think? they are things that have never been explained. why certain electronics were shut off when they were. >> i want to thank phil for that assessment. that's what i have been fighting for the last two days on the report. it doesn't tell you why it was turned. it doesn't tell you that it was 100% changed, but does tell you something happened. that's where we need to keep it framed. it was, i believe it was turned off course and turned off course for a specific reason. the heading it took after the very first turn was the maintenance base for the aircraft.
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if there's a major mechanical failure, they are not going to continue the flight. they are going to get to where are they can get it the safest and quickest manner. that would be maintenance based. >> it could have been deliberate and for a good reason. >> thank you. that's exactly right. we don't know why. we can speculate from aviation as to why he may have done that. >> phil 500 plus days after the fact. if this had been done deliberately for a cause or by some person with some right, wouldn't we have heard by now? >> i think we would have for a couple reasons. the first is in the digital age with the passengers all the cockpit crew their digital trail. facebook twitter, interviews what they told family friends, co-workers. combining it with the fact there's not a claim. if you commit an act of
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terrorism you are trying to influence or intimidate someone. there's no shred that someone on the plane had political intent. this after 500 days, if someone had political intent or was terrorism, i would be stunned. >> not a shred. that is true. david soucie let's talk the suitcase. by the flaperon was a suitcase. that is on its way to france today, as well to be looked at by investigators. we don't know if it will turn out to be anything but what can a suitcase tell you? >> typically you find that -- look at the size difference. look at the buoyancy difference. look how different they are. to think they both traveled 2600 miles with different characteristics from the flow the projection out of the water, i find it difficult to believe and the probabilityies are low
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that the suitcase is from the same aircraft. >> if the flaperon was from 370. there's more debris that will turn up in some places. very likely on reunion island or nearby. do they need to put planes in the air or scour the coastline on reunion, madagascar and east africa to check? >> some reports said they had helicopters out there looking for debris. it's not been sub stan shuated yesterday. the one i think happened is that piece came off the airplane as it was in a steep tran sonic mode. that would tear pieces off the airplane because you are literally talking about the speed of sound, mach one. the flow over the airplane is. it caused incredible disturbances in the air that can
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lip pieces off the airplane. looking at this damage to this part the fact there's no other substantial damage in front of this part tells me that's how it came off. that would have put it in miles, could be miles from where the aircraft hit the water. >> the answers to that are at the bottom of the indian ocean where they are searching, 2300 miles away from where they found the debris. we are going to have much more on the coverage of the story throughout the morning. we have a quick programming note. tune if for vanishes the mystery of malaysia airlines flight 370 at 9:00 eastern here on cnn. the taliban confirms omar died in 2013. the successor was an active recruiter in the taliban's fight against the government. this as a new round of peace
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talks slated to begin today were postponed. former cincinnati university police officer ray tensing is out on bond. jean casarez is live in cincinnati with the latest for us. >> reporter: the bond was $1 million, but $100,000 cash got him out at 6:00 last night. physically out at 6:30. he was on suicide watch. he's young 25 no children. he lives with his father. we believe that is back where he is today. the day started, yesterday, behind me in this courthouse with the arraignment where tensing pleaded not guilty. what i will remember from the arraignment is it was a packed courtroom, wall-to-wall people standing then suddenly it's realize zed the family isn't hear. the family of sam dubose is in
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the hallway. there's no seats for them. they asked anyone to give up their seats. people stood up. the prosecutor said the whole reason the charges were filed is because of that body cam video. the video we have watched over and over again and a jury will watch over and over again. the defense is saying that the police officer put his hand in the car and i asked him yesterday, why did mr. tensing put his hand in the car? he said because sam dubose put the keys in the ignition started the car, put it in gear and the young officer decided he was going to take the keys out of the of the ignition. so his hand got tangled. then there's the aspect of the dragging. we don't see that in the video. the defense attorney said as you look at the video when he's making the traffic stop look farther down. it looks like an oil stale in the middle of the the roadway.
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there's a five second piece of video that shows him down on the ground at that point, thus he was dragged. listen to it in the defense attorney's own words. >> clearly shows officer kensing laying in the street some distance from where mr. dubose's car was stopped. he didn't walk up there and fall down. somehow he got up there. he says he was dragged. >> i spoke to sam dubose's sister yesterday. we saw the pain in her eyes. they say they are strong they are together and believe in god. they render no hatred and it's hard to watch the video of their brother and their son being shot but, they are getting used to it and they know they have to maintain that strength. john? >> jean thanks so much. that video is hard to see. we have an awful story out of montana. a family gunned down at an
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indian reservation trying to be good samaritans. they tried to help an 18-year-old stranded on the side of the road. the fbi says mendoza pulled a gun on them and demanded money. when he was told they didn't have money, he ordered the family to turn around and start walking, then he began firing killing the couple and wounding their daughter. >> heart breaking. an awful story. on to politics. the first gop debate happens next week. george pataki will join us live to say how he thinks the debate will go.
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the first republican debate less than a week away. gop presidential hopefuls jockeying to be in the top ten. >> two debates held on the same day. george pataki will be in the first of the debates. thank you for joining us appreciate it. let's put up the poll of where everyone stands. the poll of polls. you are not among the top ten, which means you will not be in the prime time debate one week from yesterday, but in the sort of pregame debate. what do you hope to accomplish? >> i think what everybody is hoping to accomplish. have an idea of who you are, what your background is and what you have been able to achieve. when i look at myself and the
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rest of the field, it's a great field. none of them have my background. i'm the new york guy. people have this image of new yorkers. i grew up on a farm and still have a farm. i'm the guy that went to yale but i worked in a factory and know what it's like to friday afternoon worry about getting a lay off slip. i am a conservative government in a blue state. >> you say you can win if people pay attention to you. >> absolutely. >> don't you need to get people to pay attention to you? >> absolutely right. don't forget this is july of 2015. >> barely. >> or august of 2015. if you look at history, the summer of the year before does not predict who the nominee is going to be. i have been out of politics for eight years, i think it's a plus. in another way, people don't remember me. touf get out there and make a case. >> it anows the rest of the gop field when you ask questions
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about donald trump. i'm going to because he has 20% in a recent poll. if he weren't in the race that would be divided amongst the rest of you. how do you think he's going to fare. do you think he will be emboldened and more popular? >> i honestly have no idea. i think it's perfectly fair to bring his name up because he is in first place. on the one hand he's tapped into a strong anti-washington sentiment. it's fair. i agree, you can't trust washington. on the other hand when you go out and demonize an entire class of people it disqualified you. we don't need someone that is going to divide us. we had that with barack obama. that's what hillary clinton is going to run on. they are anti-blacks or anti-middle class. i'm going to bring americans
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together. when we stand together there's nothing we cannot do. i is that true in new york state. >> are you going to watch the prime time debate? if you run into trump in the hallway, what will you say to him? >> hi like i will all the others. monday is nus a monday. in new hampshire, there's going to be 14 of us sitting together. i'm looking forward to that saying hi to the others involved in the race letting people know my record and background and vision for america. >> let's talk about an issue that popped up. funding of planned parenthood. because of the controversial undercover videos that have been revealed that of course they are disturbing to watch, some republicans in congress have decided they want to try to sponsor legislation to defund the $520 million that is given to planned parenthood. what do you say?
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>> i saw the videos. horrific is the word i would use. >> illegal? do you believe that planned parenthood is doing something illegal? >> i think it's callous disregard for humanity. i think that's horrible. i don't think they should be funded by the federal government. i think we should take the funds and provide women's health care services through other organizations. i'm the only one that says let's not repeal row v. wade. i don't think the federal government should be having tax dollars going to organizations that perform abortions. i don't think that's right. leave it to the people. >> if you defund them then you deprive women who want birth control and there would be more unwanted pregnancies. >> there are alternative systems. i think planned parenthood, after the horrific videos should
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not be funded by tax dollars. >> they are losing in some states. they are taking away many clinics they have had for years and years. >> i'm not in favor of overturning roe v. wade but set the policies it representatives in the states choose. >> do you think it's a winning topic for republicans? if this bubbles up in the race do you think this is an issue republicans can make ground on or should avoid? >> you know alisyn it gets back to what i was saying earlier. hillary clinton, i don't think has a vision for america. her whole campaign is republicans are anti-women anti-immigrants anti-immigrants, anti-blacks and anti-middle class. she can't do that with me. i governed in the most liberal state in america, a high minority population. i was able to bring people together behind a conservative
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agenda. that made us the safest largest state in america. whether or not others feel that is the issue to talk about, convince the american people we have a common future a common destiny. i can leave that future well. >> do you think the republicans in congress should be willing to shut down planned parenthood? >> i think you should try to put together coalitions. a lot of times, that requires getting democrats to work with republicans. obama hasn't tried. i fear too often the republicans haven't tried. i had to do that in new york. i had a state assembly that was more than 2-1 democratic and i was able to bring together a coalition to change our government. that's what you have to do not shut it down. build bipartisan coalition. >> great to have you on "new day." we'll be watching next week. a programming note we will talk to david, the leader of the
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anti-abortion group that is fuelling the planned parenthood fire storm because of his undercover videos. back to the top story. increasing confidence that the plane debris found on the island near madagascar is from flight 370. how are the families of the passengers on board coping with the developments. we'll speak with a man whose wife was on the flight. what's the most awarded car company of the year? ranking from top to bottom. luxury cars just seem like they would be top awarded. yeah. there better be some awards behind what you are paying for right? the final answer. chevrolet is the most awarded car company of the year. really? i was just surprised. i'm interested to learn more about chevy. let's check out these 2015 chevy's.
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the layest now on the debris that could be part of mh370. they are increasingly confident the debris is the plane. they are expecting confirmation within 24 hours. the plane part will head to france for analysis. teams from malaysia -- investigators are focusing on how it came apart from the plane to see what caused the plane to go down. intelligence suggest thag actions within the cockpit
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deliberately took mh370 off course. the big question is this wing part from the missing jet and how can it help teams locate the fuselage. for families pain and frustration continues to mount. some feeling they can't get closure without proof of what happened to the missing plane. i want to bring in a man whose wife was on the plane. we spoke to him when the plane was first lost. it is good to see you. you are looking well. how are you and the family baring. >> thank you, michaela we are doing fine. the family has been quite well over the months. i am happy and proud of how we have pulled ourselves together over these months. >> i'm glad you have it together. what has been going through your mind this week with all these new developments the debris
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found off reunion island this assessment from u.s. intelligence. what has been going through your mind? >> for many many months -- now it seems like trace elements on where that's shown up on the horizon. i was intrigued by the news that came in first. intensity to start with. the latest expectation we might get to know more or see more in the coming days. i think over the last 24 hours, or the last couple days since i first heard the news i developed a certain level of what do you call it reasonable and emotional distance from what was happening. i realized that actually there's not much in the news
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actually that -- we don't know for certain that it's part of mh 370. that hasn't changed. we know it's going to france for their investigation. and the confidence of the parties doesn't necessarily mean it makes my day any different at this point in time. the investigation suggesting there was some involvement in the cockpit, to me it seems like recycling, frankly. back in march, 2014 they talked about being a human act. i'm wondering why -- there's nothing new to me. >> so obviously, you are going to wait to hear the confirmation or the lack of confirmation once this has been researched once
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they look at the piece of the plane there in france. investigators are able to look at it and analyze it up close. i understand your cautionness. some of the chinese families are saying unless we get 100% confirmation we are not going to believe anything. we want to wait and see. sounds like you have a similar kind of attitude toward it all. >> i imagine anybody in our place would, perhaps, take a similar view. it doesn't help anybody to know that maybe it belongs to mh370. it has to be backed by a certain level of certainty, supported by arguments and evidence which clearly and, what shall we say, unequivocally is part of the plane. i think that's important. assumeing there's a product
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history. be able to make the determination soon. >> i remember you telling us so much about your wife last time we spoke. she was so full of life and so full of zest. thank you for share thag with us. thank you for sharing your thoughts this week on the developments. we will check back in with you to see how things are developing. our best to you and the family. >> thank you so much. thank you for having me. thank you. >> john? >> michaela our thoughts are with him. it is the final countdown to the first presidential debate. who will win? who will lose? one man has the answer. we are going inside politics with john king, next.
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welcome back everyone. let's get to inside politics on "new day" with john king. good morning, john happy friday. >> tgif to you. a busy week in politics. let's wrap it up to share reporting and insight. we are going to start this morning not with donald trump. there's a shock for you. there's an interesting back and
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forth between ted cruz and president obama over the iran deal. now, it involves mitt romney and jeb bush. this is part of getting ready for the republican debate. the president commented on this in africa. ted cruz in part of the iran deal you lift sanctions, give iran billions of dollars and give the money to hezbollah. ted cruz says barack obama is going to be the biggest financer of terrorism. he says it's not nice. >> we have a sitting senator who happens to be running for president suggesting i'm the leading state sponsor of terrorism. when you get rhetoric like this, maybe it gets attention and maybe this is just an effort to push mr. trump out of the headlines. but, it's not the kind of leadership that is needed for america right now.
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>> that's the president on the world stage in ethiopia. mitt romney tweeted yesterday, thursday, yesterday, i'm opposed to the iran deal but cruz is way over the line on the obama terrorism cause. if you elevate the rhetoric you distract from the facts of the debate. will ted cruz listen to romney and dial it back? listen on the radio yesterday. no. >> the unavoidable consequence of those facts, if the deal goes through, barack obama and hillary clinton and john kerry will be the leading global financiers of terrorism on the face of the earth. one of the reasons republicans keep getting clobbered is we have leaders like mitt romney and like jeb bush who are afraid to say that. >> this is the ultimate twofer for ted cruz. i think the is part of his
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debate. how do you stand out in a debate against trump? he does it by going after president obama, hillary clinton, john kerry. then he says one of the problems is the republican establishment is too timid and whacks the nominee from the past, romney and the guy that is going to be a couple podiums down, jeb bush. >> he needs to make the top ten cut. maybe this will lock that down. you get points for bashing president obama. while cruz is bashing bush romney is helping bush even though he doesn't want to help him. it's sort of fun to watch. you wonder how long past august these can continue to be the parameters of the debate. >> a great point about romney in the middle. every day is an interesting thanksgiving dinner with the republican party. >> by saying that it appeals to
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a small slice of even the republican electorate. some people may like the sound of that. the majority of people don't like the sound of that. ted cruz is trying to practice the talking points. he's one in the string of candidates saying free insindary things to get attention here. it's the only way they can get attention. he's winning no friends inside the party. i'm not sure how long his shelf life is. >> an interesting question. ooh, that's over the line. it's one lesson. there is no line or in a 17-candidate field when you just you know a small slice of the pie is good early on. when they fall apart, you need a bigger piece. next thursday night is the debate. let's show a graphic. we are sure trump, bush walker paul, carson will be in the
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race. for the final couple spots, serious people. john kasich rick perry, rick santorum who won a dozen states may not make the debate. carly fiorina. can they do anything? tuesday night is the cut off. >> we are locked in. it's the average of the last national polls here. if you think of a poll as a snapshot in time it's always behind. any bombs that needed to be thrown needed to be by now. you are right, the six people who i don't think will make it are graham pataki kasich. we are not sure on that. it's not necessarily the worst thing, i think, to be on the lower tier. they will be debating earlier in the evening. the person who does well there will get some attention. >> somebody they slingshot out of what you call the adult table. >> ironically many of them are the adults.
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i think, you know kasich sort of bumped with his entry in the race got people excited about it. almost like a jeb bush alternative on that 9:00 panel. it's not clear they are going to be able to get it done. christie trump, who else? christie and trump. >> margaret thanks for coming in on a friday morning. i just want to show this quickly. george h.w. bush sent a tweet saying who knew? we appreciate the sense of humor from the former president. we are happy. >> a big smile and two thumbs up. i love that. good for him. good for him. can i brag about your show? make sure to watch john king and the inside politics panel to break down all the news of the week every sunday 8:30 a.m. here on cnn. >> meanwhile, on this program, a piece of debris found on the
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so-called flaperon on this boeing triple 7. we're joined by the senior vice president of universal asset management a man that knows a lot about triple 7's, michael kenney. >> the flaperon itself is located right in between these two larger components. it's a combination of a flap and an alaron. >> reporter: do the pilots control that? >> it's mostly computer system inside the aircraft itself. setting it again, to maximize either one of those flight characteristics characteristics. >> reporter: take us through where you would start as an investigator to this crash. >> this is a flaperon from a triple 7. first thing you're going to do is focus on the data plate, identify the part, the serial
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number which through maintenance records you can tie directly to the aircraft. beyond that you're going to look for anything unusual, especially damage how this component could have been damaged. >> reporter: we were talking yesterday a lot about this data plate. we don't see that here in this debris that washed up on reunion island. >> there's part numbers you could find inside the unit. this is a component made up of several panels. that could lead to some better connections. >> reporter: what does the damage to this flaperon this piece -- what does that tell you as the expert? >> looking at the photos you've got damage to the hinges a lot of damage in the back. that tells us how it was removed from the aircraft. >> reporter: this is made of what? >> composite. it's hollow.
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it could travel large distances. >> reporter: this six and a half foot piece of equipment, about 100 pounds in weight hopefully will give investigators more information and whether they could tie this back to mh370. planned parenthood is under fire after those videos claiming they selfie talll fetal tissue. the group is not backing down. we will takelk to the man behind those videos.
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>> nationwide protests. new under cover video. >> we were doing like 50 to 75 per specimen. >> i think they're doing something with callous disregard for humanity. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. >> chris is on assignment today. we do begin with breaking news. the malaysian team investigatoring the mh370 now says the debris found on reunion island belongs to that 777. crash investigators will make their definitive identification. >> more than 16 months since mh370 vanished we still do not know why. intelligence reports suggest it was someone in the cockpit that deliberately caused that flight to go off case.
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we we begin live on reunion island. emma. >> reporter: well this malaysian confirmation brings families a step closer. but of course we still have so many unanswered questions. we headed down to the beach where the debris that set this all off washed ashore. take a look at this. >> there's strong evidence to suggest that the wreckage found on reunion island does come from a boeing 777. >> reporter: the wreckage discovered on this remote beach on reunion island may possibly belong to missing malaysian airliner mh370. boeing investigators say they're confident the mysterious airplane part comes from a triple 7. beach cleanup crews located the wreckage wednesday locating the flaperon along the shore. it's part of an airplane wing.
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they say photos also show a stencilled number that correspond to a triple 7 as well. >> only a very small part of the aircraft but it could be a very important piece of evidence. >> reporter: also washing ashore remnants of what appear to be a suitcase. though there is skepticism this piece of luggage may come from mh370, island police confirm it is being included in the investigation. this wreckage discovered almost a year and a half after mh370 disappeared, located more than 2300 nautical miles away from the current search zone off australia's west coast. >> the fact this wreckage was sighted on the northern part of the reunion island is consistent with the current movements. >> reporter: as investigators in france await the arrival of the debris a u.s. intelligence assessment suggests someone in
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mh370's cockpit may have deliberate rily set the plane off course. >> at first they didn't know what they had on their hands. >> reporter: well we can actually show you. we've got footage of him. he is extraordinary. it is because of him that the investigators have as much to work with as they do. when the debris washed ashore the rest of the cleanup crew pulled it further inland and felt it scraping a lot of that really crucial barnacles, all of those things that are going to help investigators figure out where it sunk where it's been moved. he looked down and thought, this is important, this looks like it belongs to a plane. and if it is a plane, people died in this crash and we need to respect that and protect it. it's because of him that investigators came down. and it is absolutely because of
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him they were able to quite quickly figure out how crucial this piece of debris is. johnie was back there yesterday looking for anything else that might help investigators further. >> that is a crucial obviously piece of this puzzle. thank you so much for all of your reporting on it. so that wing part that washed ashore on reunion island does head to france today for analysis. that's where we find cnn senior international correspondent live in toulouse france. >> reporter: they're still going to want forensic proof that it is indeed from such a plane and also of course that it is indeed from the triple 7 that was mh370. it's going to head over here to france from reunion island. it's about an 11 hour flight from friday into saturday. then it's going to have to come from paris all the way down to the south of france.
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now, the actual forensic tests on this part are going to start on monday. there is no time frame at this point in time as to how long those tests were take. and we also don't know whether or not the investigators are going to be releasing any sort of preliminary information to us who are waiting here for it during the course of their assessment that they're making whether or not we'll find out any sort of watermark they have along the way. they're obviously going to look at the outside of that piece of debris look at any numbers, see if they match with anything that they know of. also they're going to test the metal as well to see what it is to test the paint. also to see how long it was in the water and how far it might have traveled. they believe they can gather a wealth of information from that piece of debris. >> fred thank you so much in toulouse. the focus of u.s. intelligence remains on the cockpit sticking by the theory that someone
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deliberately took the flight off course before it vanished. renee? >> reporter: this morning sources tell cnn's evan perez an assessment tells us someone in the cockpit of mh370 deliberately directed the aircraft's movements before it disappeared. now, this assessment is based on satellite and other available evidence. analysts we know looked at the multiple course changes the aircraft made after it deviated from its scheduled course from kuala lumpur to beijing. analysts determined that flight path was the result most likely of someone in the cockpit deliberately programming the aircraft to flied towards very specific way points crossing indonesian territory and eventually going towards the southern indian ocean. this was an assessment that was done for internal u.s. government purposes and it is
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totally separate from the investigation being led by malaysian authorities. investigators found no proof of wrongdoing by the airplane's crew. however, the recent discovery of this debris really gives investigators hope that they can now find not only the wreckage but that crucial black boxes. intelligence sources tell evan perez, without that they likely will not be able to make a definitive conclusion about and what happened to flight 370. >> for the families of the 239 aboard flight 370, the weight for answers is chinese families saying they will not accept anything less than 100% certain certainty that the piece of the wing is from mh370. >> reporter: we got some new information from family members who tell us there may be a possible meeting between some of
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the mh370 families here in china and malaysian airlines. the problem is that previous meetings when the families have tried to get together over the last year have actually been broken up by the chinese government which has discouraged the families from gathering together even though they were initially allowed a rare street protest after the plane disappeared. since then the families say they have been basically left on their own with no psychological help. now they're left to grapple with this discovery that has brought so much of the grief back from the initial days last march, some almost 17 months ago. one of the daughters of the chief steward of mh370 is putting out a statement. she says quote, a part of us wants it to be true but another part of us does not want it to be true. we still hope that one day they'll come back. but if they're not, then it's
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okay. at least some family members are trying to accept the reality and try to move forward with the grieving process. >> i see the word agonizing on the screen. that reality must be agonizing for them as it starts to etsettle in. i want to dig in deeper with richard quest. and former chair of the house intelligence committee mike rogers. good morning to you. the deputy transport minister of malaysia saying they believe from photographic evidence that what they've seen is from a boeing triple 7. we also know there's only one triple 7 missing in the world. can we just say then it's got to be mh370? >> here we have the great difference between the role that we play and the role that a government official plays. we can say by every stretch of common sense it has to be it. it looks like a triple 7.
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but a government spokesman or a minister, they have a greater onus and responsibility because they are going to give you the seal of confirmation and say, yes, it definitely is. >> we have to keep the families at the center of all of this. mike i want to talk to you about this information from u.s. intelligence this assessment. we know it's months old. suggesting that someone in the cockpit deliberately directed that plane to go off course. what do you make of it? i keep sort of slicing over the words. it's an assessment it's months old. it wasn't intended for public use, that it wasn't any more detailed information. it was from satellite data we had all hard. >> any time an intelligence
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official or investigator makes an assessment they're trying to eliminate the possibilities, not come to a conclusion. so that assessment was probably based on more than just satellite information. it was probably information that may have been found otat the pilot's house. remember the one pilot had a simulator in his house. there was probably some similar lair tee in that programming. obviously they don't believe it was a physical problem with the airplane. but it was some human factor that changed the course of that airplane. but they can't come to the conclusion it was terrorism. >> we'll talk about triflerrorism in a second. why now, 500-plus days? we have talked about this repeatedly here on cnn. what's the benefit? what's the end game in releasing this report now?
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>> i would argue they've again gotten to a place where they could eliminate other factors. i think they determined this was the right time to do that. of course finding the wing or the portion of the airplane credibly important to that end. but, again, it's about taking options off the table to come to a conclusion. >> got you. >> mike it's richard. i've got a question for you. when you read or hear about that i take it literally. they're merely saying somebody deliberately flew the plane. we've known that for a long time, the nature of the movements. do you interpret that wording as being nefarious? >> well i think that what you're finding is they've made the determination to go off its route. that would be a serious event for a pilot on a commercial airline airline. i think what they're trying to
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say is we don't know if there were other signs of trouble. but the way i read the assessment it told me something was amiss in that cockpit. one of those two pilots made the determination to take it off of its normal route, take it off autopilot and make odd corrections. it did not appear as if the plane was in trouble looking for a place to land. >> just a minute ago on our air, was talking about, look, these are intelligence guys. these are not aviation experts. are they missing something? >> look i've always been in the camp that says it leads toward the mechanical. >> you still feel that way. >> absolutely. but to mike's point, i still feel this way because there's no evidence besides the
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circumstantial that the plane was flown deliberately in an off route faction. every else goes one plus one equals three. i say wait a second one plus one equals two. that's where we've got to remain. >> you can't take it completely off the table. it looks more like the case where the pilot flew it into the side of the mountain than it disease an does an act of deliberate terrorism. i think you can probably eliminate a deliberate act of terrorism but you can't eliminate a deliberate act by the pilot to take the plane into the ocean. >> of course we'll have more on our continues coverage on this story. be sure to tune in tonight to a special cnn report "vanished." this morning donald trump is in scotland.
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he's golfing and speaking to cnn's max foster about leading in the polls and what trump's foreign policy might look like. cnn's max foster live from scotland with a new interview from trump. hi max. >> reporter: he's a very popular figure here actually as a business leader what he's done for the resort, what he's done for the game of golf. but his political views are a bit more controversial. not least those comments on immigration from mexico. he's about to head off in a helicopter to go to another part of scotland. before he left, i managed to speak to him one on one. >> mexico is sending -- people are coming through that border from all over the world. we have a pourrous border where you can just walk right into the country. to have a country, you have tor a really strong border. this has to stop. what's going on now has to stop.
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>> reporter: who will build the wall? >> i will build the wall and mexico is going to pay for it. and they will be happy to pay for it. trust me. mexico will pay for it. >> reporter: he said to me that on the international stage america isn't respected right now. president obama isn't respected. and donald trump wants to bring that respect back. and he does so by pointing to those very positive polling numbers he keeps getting. >> you know, if you're a really popular politician you have 50% of the vote. i gave up 45%. but the fact is i'm leading in all the polls including your poll. my message is right. it's make america great again. my whole thing is make america great again. can't get simpler than that. putin has no respect for president obama. he will respect me, that i tell you.
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>> reporter: it was meant to be a business trip john. but it feels like another campaign stop, doesn't it? he'll be back in the u.s. on saturday i believe, to continue the campaign proper. >> an interesting discussion. thanks max. this just in to cnn an ebola vaccine may be deployed on a larger scale in africa. the vaccine had an astonishing 100% success rate. can't do better than that. people who received the treatment at least ten days after coming into contact with an ebola patient. that is really really fascinating news. could change the situation on the ground there in africa if they can make enough of it enough. officials in zimbabwe are calling for the extradition of the dentist who killed cecil the
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protected lion in zimbabwe. everybody wants to talk to this dentist. >> reporter: that's right. they don't want to just talk to him. they want him to be extradited to zimbabwe to face charges of poaching. a minister of the government there saying in this case this was an orchestrated attack on this lion. the pressure is piling onto this dentist. everyone wants to know where he is. he's closed his practice. he's faced a social media storm. and a petition to the white house which required 100,000 signatures was completed in just a few days. we do expect the obama administration to reply as to whether they will extradite palmer. of course it has to go through a court of law. but they do say in zimbabwe this
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was illegal and he should face the fire of the courts there. well you'll want to stick around for this story because a california court barring an anti-abortion group from releasing some of their videos slamming planned parenthood. we talk to the man behind those tapes when we come right back. the gumption to reach for the sky. that's that new gear feeling. all hp ink buy one get one 50% off. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great. growing up, we were german. we danced in a german dance group. i wore lederhosen. when i first got on ancestry i was really surprised that i wasn't finding all of these germans in my tree. i decided to have my dna tested through ancestry dna. the big surprise was we're not german at all. 52% of my dna comes from scotland and ireland. so, i traded in my lederhosen for a kilt. ancestry has many paths to discovering your story.
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75 that would be like 200 or 300. it's stuff like this that we don't want to be like a flat fee of 200. >> no. and i think that -- i think a per item thing works a little better because we can see how much we can get out of it. >> that was a clip from a series of sting videos shot by an anti-abortion group that appear to reveal planned parenthood negotiateing prices for fetal tissue. joining us now is the man behind those videos david delidon. let's talk about what we just saw in that clip and others. it appears there's some sort of negotiation going on. what planned parenthood says is it's about the transfer of fetal tissue to biotech companies that
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will use it for research. all they say they were trying to do is cover their costs. they say they're not selling the fetal tissue. and by the way, covering costs for the transfer is totally legal. so where do you think the smoking gun is? >> there's basically two points there. the first is that planned parenthood is openly admitting they do harvest the fetal tissue and receive payments in connection with that. the second point, the only question is are those payments constituting a financial benefit to planned parenthood? and is it constituting a profit that's greater than whatever costs, the real or imagined they might have for supplying the fetal tissue? and a middleman biotech company that allow a technician to come into their clinic and harvest the body parts, planned parenthood doesn't incur any cost for the storage of the
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fetal tissue. all of those costs are absorbed by the biotech company. and yet planned parenthood is still getting paid $50 or $75 for an aborted fetus. >> they say it is their staff doing the consenting, getting the consents for the patients as well as if they have to do storage or transfer. but we had the executive vice president of planned parenthood on "new day" this week. and again she says they are simply trying to cover their costs. they are in no way selling fetal tissue and transferring fetal tissue is legal. listen to what she had to say. >> depending on who the research partner is, there can be shipping costs, handling cost. the costs can in fact vary and that wouldn't be something that a doctor would be the person to decide. that would be somebody in accounting or someone who's in management. i say that unequivocally.
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planned parenthood does not make a profit on fetal tissue. >> you heard her. she says unequivocally planned parenthood is not making a profit and what you did, she says is unfair because you were targeting doctors who don't really know all the accounting details of how much the process costs. >> i think she's right that the doctors are not the ones who should be setting those prices. i don't know why the doctors thought they should be negotiate negotiating with our investigators and haggling over the price of the fetal specimens with them. if they were truly getting reimbursed for costs, they could have said our costs are going to be this. none of the doctors our investigators spoke with did that. they wanted to set arbitrary prices per body part from the fetuses we would harvest. >> how many of those videos do
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you have? >> probably anywhere from eight to ten more videos to come. the exact number would vary. but i'm predicting about a dozen when everything is said and done. >> what are the bombshells that you believe people will see? >> i don't really talk about specifically what's going to be on them before the release. i'm happy to say though in relation to the ordinary frer the -- order from the california court -- >> the restraining order preventing you from releasing these. how are you responding to that? >> we're of course ready to contest any infringement or attempt to suppress or silence our rights under the first amendment to publish. the company stem express which is one of the biotech companies that planned parenthood has partnered with to harvest their fetal tissue and sell it are
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trying to suppress a specific video recording of a meeting with their top leadership where they admit that they sometimes get fully intact fetuses. that could be prima fascia evidence of born alive infants. >> let's talk about one of the larger issues here. obviously the videos are disturbing to watch. but again it's legal. and in fact scientists who use fetal tissue say they have been used to cure or help prevent all sorts of diseases. they have been used in the polio vaccine, ruebella. the research has saved lives. are you against using any sort of fetal tissue for research? >> first of all, abortion is
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legal under certain regulatory framework. what's not legal is selling abortda aborted fetal tissue. or using partial birth abortions or even live birth abortions to do so. >> planned parenthood they're doing none of those things. and that they follow the letter of the law. >> right, right. planned parenthood hasn't even responded to the point by point description of a partial birth abortion procedure that their senior director of medical services gave in the very first video release. >> again, are you opposed? what is your goal here david? are you trying to ban abortion out right by showing these videotapes? or are you opposed to any sort of research being done on fetal tissue? >> right. the goal of this project, which was a two and a half year study is to rel lay document for the
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public how planned parenthood harvests and sells aborted baby parts. that's something people find shocking disturbing offensive. when it comes down to violations of the law when people are using illegal abortion procedures that's something that most people find barbaric. >> we appreciate you giving us your side of the story. thanks for being on "new day." >> thanks. we could soon find out whether debris found in the western indian ocean does come from mh370. the discovery triggering a lot of questions from you this morning. and our aviation experts answer those questions, next. nsurance policy has a number. but not every insurance company understands the life behind it. those who have served our nation. have earned the very best service
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triple 7 based on photo photo evidence. confirmation could be less than 24 hours away. that is because the plane part heading today to france for analysis teams from malaysia will be on site there. investigators are focusing on how it detached from the plane to try to get a sense of what caused the jet to go down. the u.s. monitoring the investigation. intelligence suggesting that actions in the cockpit deliberately took mh370 off its intended course. the big question this morning, if this wing is part of the missing jet, can it help the search at all? can it help locate the fuselage? let's bring in miles o'brien. he's also a science correspondent for pbs news hour. let's get right to the viewer questions here. number one, does the debris indicate whether the plane broke
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unin up in flight or at impact? >> we will leave it to the experts to give us the final answer. but there's a lot of discussion on the internet. i've talked to some engineers and airplane mechanics, people who know about this stuff. i don't know if you can put up a picture of the flaperon that was discovered on reunion island. but if you look at the front of it the leading edge it's not damaged very much at all. the back the trailing edge in aeronautical terms looks like it's been torn like a piece of paper. what the experts tell me is that would lead one to believe that it was not attached to the aircraft when it struck the water because there would be damaged to the leading edge if it was still attached to the wing at this point. so it was possible this aircraft was in a steep, fast dive and that flaperon was flapping in the wind as it were causing it
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to fail that way. that's an interesting crew. >> second question here -- this is interesting -- no wreckage has been found. this is the first piece of wreckage found. no wreckage found in the huge search zone set up. could the search areas be totally wrong if in fact this piece is from mh370? >> actually everything about where this piece has washed up validates and gives us confidence in the underwater search zone off the coast of australia. as a matter of fact i remember talking about a year ago to an expert on this issue. he said wait about a year and a half maybe two years and start looking in madagascar and africa and i suspect you'll start seeing some wreckage. it's almost like clock work. >> isn't it odd, though that they searched so hard from the air and sea and didn't find anything? >> well remember john the
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initial searches were pretty far from where they're looking right now. it's quite possible that when that air force was in the sky looking for debris they are in completely the wrong place. >> it's true. they were looking around malaysia right there at the beginning. and that does appear to be the wrong place right now. miles, let's get to the next question. how have we not found this plane yet with today's technology? how could there not be some data some satellite footage that told us where this is from the very beginning? >> the problem is we're not using today's technology john. i mean we are dragging devices across the ocean using sonar capability trying to paint a picture of the sea many miles beneath. today's technology that aircraft would never have gone out of the communication with the ground in some fashion. there would have been some sort
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of retimealtime streaming capability. >> last question miles, any possibility of usinge inging satellite data to backtrack the degree trail? >> the longer the amount of time the harder it is to do one of these reverse current searches. certainly they'll give it a try, but it's going to be difficult to make the search any more specific and refined than it currently is. >> but this does in and of itself tell you this plane did go down in the indian ocean. and that's a definitive answer that two days ago we didn't have. >> two days ago we didn't know there was a plane crash for certain. so yes, this is a huge thing. >> thank you so much miles. surveillance video captures
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surveillance video leaving confederate flag flags on the grounds of a baptist church. it comes a month after nine for killed. joining us now is the pastor of the church. pastor really good to talk to you about this. i have to guess that your reaction yesterday -- i'm going to let you tell us about your reaction when you first were told or saw these flags around these significant sites. >> good morning. good to be here with you. we discovered confederate flags on our church campus yesterday morning. the staff had just arrived. and i was on my way to the office. and they called to tell me what had happened. as you're seeing on the video right now, those flags were
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strategically placed on the church campus. one wusas placed in front of our bell tower where there was a sign that says "black lives matter." clearly those who left it there intended to send a message. and that message clearly is not about heritage. it is a message about hate. >> and that's been such a discussion of late hasn't it been? and it has been for many years about whether that flag represents heritage or hate. i know you gave an impassioned press conference jed andyesterday and called this a terrorist act. >> let me be clear. i'm a child of the south. i was born and raised in savannah georgia. for many this flag represents heritage. not everyone who loves the confederate flag hates black people. but the problem is this flag has been claimed by far too many
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hate groups. they now own the flag. and i think we ought to let them have it. since we are one people we ought to live under one flag if american flag. >> pastor so what now? it's meant -- this kind of act is meant to intimidate. many will wonder if it's meant to strike fear given what happened in charleston recently. i imagine you're getting calls to your office from the people in your church. and i know you're going to preach on sunday. what will be your message to your church come sunday? >> our message will be the same as it's been since 1886. we're america's freedom church. we're committed to what dr. king called the beloved community. we will not give into fear. fear paralyzes you.
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hate consumes you and prevents you from seeing the humanity of others. this kind of crisis should cause all of us to stand up and resist the substance, that which the flag represents. we're in a fight right now on vote rights and we eight to be focus -- ought to be focused on that issue. >> so let me be a member of your flock for a second. i come to you and i say, pastor how am i supposed to see the humanity in someone trying to strike fear in my heart? what would you say? >> well that's the message of the gospel. michaela i belief in that message. i see the humanity in all of god's people. listen these are tough times. i don't know what was in the mind of persons who left those flags. but a lot of people are struggling trying to make a way. and many are frustrated.
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sometimes that frustration is misguided. i'd like to get a chance to talk to these individual. meanwhile, we have to focus on building the beloved community on fighting for a country that works for everybody. >> right. >> and so we'll move from this crisis. we'll stay focused on the work that we do week after week. and we'll transform our pain into power and all of us will be better because of it. >> i appreciate you saying that. my mother sometimes said sometimes the ones who need the love the most are the hardest to love. you have a leadership conference going on right now at your church? >> that's right. we were gathering yesterday morning a group of clergy all across the country. we convened to talk about mass incarceration. the president and others have been talked about this. america is 5% of the world's
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population. we warehouse 25% of the world's prisoners. we need to not get caught up in this pipeline that leads from the cradle to the prison system. the outcome is terrible. and republicans and democrats agree this is unsustainable and we have to fix it. >> it's good that we have some consensus there finally on both sides of the aisle. >> yeah. >> thank you for joining us on "new day." >> thank you so much. >> we've got the good stuff coming your way. where a pick-up truck slams into your brand new car. one second it wasn't there and the next second...boom you had your first accident. now you have to make your first claim. so you talk to your insurance company and...boom you're blindsided for a second time. they won't give you enough money to replace your brand new car. don't those people know you're already shaken up? liberty mutual's new car replacement will pay for the entire value of your car, plus depreciation.
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wow, i love it. the tobin stance! that is totally what it is! . >> it is time now for the good stuff. how do you feel about junk mail? well one man's trash is one young man's treasure. 12-year-old matthew flores can't afford books. can you believe that? he can't afford a bus pass to the library. he's so desperate to read that he asked the local mailman for help. >> a young man was standing here reading junk mail. asked me if i had any extra. at 12 years old, he didn't want electronics. this kid just wants to read. >> so mail carrier ron lynch put
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matthew's story up on facebook. >> i've heard from the u.k. from australia, from india. >> wow. the books just keep pouring in. every day. matthew's going to read every one of them and share them with other kids who need them. >> that's a great story. thanks john. great to have you. >> time now for "newsroom" with carol costello. >> happy friday. the best day of the week don't you think? have a great weekend. "newsroom" starts now. good morning. happy friday. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me this morning. hillary clinton and jeb bush taking turns on the very same stage this morning. it's
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