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>> yes? >> i said "excuse me" and you stopped talking! >> reporter: jeanne moos -- >> excuse me -- >> reporter: new york. >> i honestly believe i've seen him excuse himself in the middle of an interview. on that note, excuse me, have a good friday. thanks for joining us. "a.c. 360" joins us now. good evening. we begin tonight with the debris that could be from malaysia airlines flight 370. a flight that began nearly 17 months ago and ended mysteriously. a mystery that has yet to be solved. the breaking news right now, the debris is on its way from a remote island in the western indian ocean where it was found just a few days ago to france, where it's going to be studied to confirm whether it is, in fact, from the flight that vanished in march of 2014. now, we have reporters in both locations that are at the heart of the story tonight. fred pleitgen is in toulouse, france, where the debris is heading. we begin on reunion island with our reporter, nima albagr.
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the piece of debris that left for france, this wasn't just the normal process of getting an item on to plane, i understand? >> reporter: no, absolutely not. this had to be dealt with so delicately. because anything and everything on that debris, any compromising of the integrity of that debris can have an impact on the investigation. so it was wrapped very, very carefully to preserve as much as possible for the investigators. we actually got to see some of that when it was lowered into the crate, it was lowered with a police escort. people standing, watching, making sure everything was done exactly as it needed to be. >> and there is an ongoing search right now for any other items that might be possibly from the plane? >> reporter: the search does continue. we had police helicopters flying overhead for most of today, and actually for most of the past few days, because the working theory that investigators have is if this is indeed mh-370,
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that countercurrent that brought it could possibly be bringing more. and they also want to get a sense of the pathway of that current, because if this is mh-370, then we're sitting right here on what could be the focal point of a renewed search effort, a renewed search parameter, that we've taken reunion island, but also madagascar, and possibly all the way down to that southeastern coast of africa. >> it's incredible to think that this could finally be the answer, at least partially an answer to about what happened to flight 370. teams from the ntsb and boeing are also headed to france, where the debris is going to be examined to participate in the investigation. our senior international correspondent, fred pleitgen, is in toulouse. he joins me now. so what kind of timetable are we looking at before we will know for sure whether or not this is from 370? >> sooranderson, it's not going happen as fast as some people would like it to happen.
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the part will get here possibly saturday night, maybe sunday morning, but the analysis of that part will not happen until wednesday afternoon. the reason for that, this is not only forensic work they're doing, this is also part of a larger international criminal investigation. so what you have here is you have french investigators doing their work, you have malaysian teams here as well, as well as the ntsb and boeing. and so they say they have to get together first, they have to map out a scheme as to how they're going to go forward. then we're going to unseal the evidence, which is, of course, that piece of wreckage. but they say once they start, they believe that very quickly, they'll be able to find out, first of all, if this is really a part from the a boeing 777 and if it is, indeed, from mh-370, anderson. >> it seems incredible they want to start looking at this thing until wednesday. i would think a lot of the people are already there or will be there, even before the debris is there. you would think they could have these meetings a little bit sooner. what else do investigators hope to find out, besides just confirming whether this piece is
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from 370? >> reporter: yeah, they believe there's a wealth of information they could possibly gather from this piece. this is one of the premiere labs for such analysis in all of europe. one of the things they want to find out is first of all how long that part has been in the ocean, and also, of course, how far it might have traveled. these are all things they might be able to glean from analyzing the metal of the part, but also taking it apart, looking at any sort of serial numbers and the like. the other thing this lab has specialized in, anderson, is to see whether this part came off of the plane in midair, possibly from an explosion or something similar, or whether it only came off on impact. these are all things they're trying to find out. they say, of course, the big questions that need to be answers even though this part is there is first of all, what happened to mh-370 and also what happened to the rest of the plane. >> fred pleitgen, thanks. joining me now, richard quest, cnn safety analyst, and former faa accident investigator and
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inspector, david soucie, and david gallow. he co-led the search for air france flight 447. richard, first of all, before we go to the magic wall here, are you surprised that they're not going to actually examine this thing until wednesday? >> of course they're going to examine it beforehand, they're just not going to, basically, formally declare that they've got a result or anything until wednesday. but everybody gets that. everybody dribbles into toulouse over the next couple of days. the piece doesn't get there until sunday if ntsb, boeing have to get there. the malaysians have to get there, everybody else to look at it. they'll be looking at it sooner, but wednesday's the day for the analysis. >> let's look at what we have here. you have a couple of different boards here looking at the currents and the search area. what does this show? >> what it shows very clearly is that this is the search area and the debris that we're talking about, the flapper-on obviously went into the water somewhere around here and got caught up in the jar and moved way across to where it ends up in reunion
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island. >> assuming it's from 370. >> yeah, assuming. the entire discussion has to assume that. and this is why they believe and, david gallow will be able to give a lot more of the nuts and bolts of this, but take this as an overview of what we believe happened. it gets into the water here, it moves across, ends up at the reunion, and we always said, we were told, pretty much from day one, this is the sort of thing that would happen, because of the way the movement of the currents, and you'll see exactly why. take this from the university of western australia. some of the world's leading work has been done there. they predicted something virtually to this point. this is their, in 18 to 24 months, we're just about there, they said, knowing the rate at which things were moving, knowing the way things were going, they predicted reunion, which is just -- >> so they really predicted this. they said, give it 18 to 24
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months, it would hit in that area? >> yes, they said that because they knew about this. so they knew that once something was in the water here, the natural force of the currents would take it in that direction. but, of course, you've got to -- but what's the chances it could have missed and gone there or down there? that's why it's going to be crucial not just to look at reunion, but look at that long coast of madagascar. and right the way down to the eastern coast of south america and up to there. these are also areas that need to be looked at. >> david gallow, it is remarkable looking at these currents, that they were able to predict this. >> absolutely. well, they've done it to a first order, anderson. so details down to the day, not so easy. but the general motion of the ocean, even with the typhoons and the monsoons and all of that, that's very important to the study of climate change, and very important to australia weather patterns. they've been keeping a close eye
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on those currents. >> david soucie, some people have said, look, this populflapn appears to be in relatively good condition. that doesn't necessarily clarify how or why the plane came down, does it? >> no, it really doesn't. there are two options that are counteropposed here. whether it still, questioning did it go in as a ditching or straight down? there's still too many questions. >> david, when investigators, you know, get to toulouse and they actually begin to examine the piece of this wing. what's the first thing they do? what's the parameters here? >> well, you had mentioned before that it takes until wednesday until the analysis is done. i've been to the laboratory in toulouse when we did the certification of the airbus 380. that particular lab is, we're not talking inspector clouseau here, we're talking the best in the world at this. so even to get into that laboratory, it took me a day and a half, just to get cleared to
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go into the laboratory. and i was a federal investigator from the u.s. so, that procedure, every procedure, all the way along the line, has to be taken care of. and the chain of custody, as was mentioned before, this could very well be a criminal investigation still. so the chain of custody and who touches the part, who looks at the part, and they have to wait until every single person has that opportunity who has a vested interest in doing so, which is, of course, boeing and the airline, and malaysia and everybody who has that vested interest. so it takes a long time. and as richard mentioned on wednesday is when the analysis goes on after everybody has taken a look at it, it all comes together. >> david soucie, do they begin to take it apart to look for serial numbers or examine it from the exterior? >> there will be some disassembly. there'll be two phases. first of all, the identification, if it is really that part from the aircraft. i don't think that will take
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very long at all. the first investigation will be things about the metallurgy itself. how the brackets were worn off. if it was indeed from flutter in a high-speed decent, that fluter would be evidenced in the way the petal broke. from metallurgic analysis, we can look and see if it was over time, if it had worked its way and then came off, or if it was a sudden, abrupt tear, like it would happen if it hit the water and it would have warped it. so all of those things need to be done through a very precise disassembly of the part. >> david gallow, can investigators determine exactly how long a piece of metal has been floating in the ocean, looking at whatever marine life or minerals it might have come in contact with? >> again, a rough estimate, anderson, probably, especially if the experts and understanding barnacles and the like, but a part of it will depend on the path of that piece that the aircraft took across the ocean.
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places in the ocean are more able to be more fertile and things will grow relatively quickly. other places are a like a desert and nothing grows there. in there is a story. it's almost like a floating science experiment. and they'll have these paleobiologists and the like looking at that, trying to understand what the path was like. >> david gallow, thank you. richard quest will stay with us. -up next, whether someone in the cockpit deliberately caused the plane's movements before it disappeared. that's the preliminary assessment from the u.s. intelligence agencies and led to a lively discussion between richard and miles o'brien last night. they are back tonight. also tonight, the deadly shooting of an unarmed african-american man by an officer in cincinnati during what should have been a routine traffic stop. tonight we're taking a closer look at what two of the other officers who were there and what they say happened. technology empowers us to achieve more.
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welcome back to breaking news. debris that could be from malaysian airlines flight 370 is on its way to france to see if it is from the flight that disappeared nearly 17 months ago. separate from that investigation, as we've been reporting, a preliminary assessment from the u.s. intelligence agencies suggests that someone in the cockpit deliberately caused the plane's movements before it disappeared. that doesn't necessarily mean it was a nefarious purpose. we simply don't know. so, the question, though, is was the technology on the plane disabled, and then did it continue to fly for hours after
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that? joining me again, cnn aviation correspondent, richard quest. also with us, former ntsb board member, and pilot miles o'brien. so richard, this is a picture on the big board, the electronics system of the akarr system. >> it's the computerized system that allows the aircraft to communicate information about engines, its control surfaces, all the way down so the in-flight entertainment system working, what date you'll be arriving at. acar standing for going out of satellite. here is something known as the eand ebay. the electronics bay, and it's literally outside the cockpit. it's outside the cockpit on the floor. you put a ladder down and come down to the in ebay. it's just besides first class by
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the front galley. the important thing about this is, until now, many airlines have not kept it locked. so you could hoist up the carpet, welcome the ebay, straight down the ladder. >> did you say hoik up the carpet. >> yes, hoik up. >> i don't know. >> i'll send you the definition. back to the -- >> i digress. >> and here you have all the avionics. think of this as the brain of the aircraft. everything from the t-class collision avoidance. >> so the acars was disabled? >> well, it was disabled, you can go down in the menus in the cockpit. >> so someone would not necessarily have had to go down into -- >> no, but the thinking might have been by some people that someone got into the ebay or
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stowed away and once you're in here, it's a pandora's box. these are the circuit breakers for the radios, over here, and there's also, interestingly, some -- there are some other devices and oxygen bottles in the bay, which also people have talked about. >> the acars disabled after the "good night" was given? >> before. well, we don't really know. at 1:07 is the last official acars transmission. the next one should have been about half an hour later. it never happened. so they believe somewhere after 1:07 it was disabled. >> so, john, is there any reason why a pilot or someone from the flight crew would actually go down the stairs into this part of the plane? >> not in flight. although if they are capable of it, it's not normal for a pilot to go down into that compartment in flight. >> and miles, are all pilots trained to use this equipment? do pilots know how to disable this acars system, or is that something engineers and mechanics on a plane would do? >> no, this is in the realm of engineers and mechanics.
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and that room, the pilots are not trained to go in there. the door is open, which is a huge security achilles heel on this particular kind of actor. the airlines can order a lock kit if they want to, but there's no regulatory mandate for that. the pilots themselves are not trained to go down there. why the door is open, i guess if there was some sort of system failure that required them to get to a circuit breaker down there, they would, in fact, have access. >> but, john, wouldn't it make sense to, you know, secure the cockpit door, wouldn't you want to secure this door as well? >> certainly. i was surprised they hadn't put the lock kit on it. yes, you wouldn't want access to anybody down there that didn't belong down there. >> and john, this intelligence assessment from u.s. officials, the it is, in fact, correct, and someone did cause this plane's movement, it was caused by a human hand, does that entirely rule out any sort of mechanical failure or could both have happened? >> i don't believe mechanical failure, any of the theories,
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because it just -- the dots don't line up and it's never happened like that before. so, as an investigator, we would never take that off the table. that stays on table as a possibility, but based on experience and knowledge of the systems, i would say that's very, very remote. and to do what richard said, to run around and try to inop all those systems, the pilots would see the cascading failures quickly. and with all the way to communicate, including the transponder, hitting the emergency code, they would have had enough time to get a message off that there was a problem. >> richard, what about that? you still don't rule out mechanical failure. >> i don't. there's a couple of oxygen tanks in this -- that supply the oxygen to the pilots. we know from a qantas flight that an oxygen tank exploded and nearly took everybody out that was sitting above it. and the plane continued to fly, miles, in that particular case of the qantas 747. so to your point, that you said yesterday, you're aware of that
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particular case. is it a possibility? i leave it on the table that there was a mechanical issue that overwhelmed the pilots and eventually succumbed the aircraft. >> miles, you say no way. you say this was a deliberate act? >> i do, anderson. and i wonder if we should just think back to june of 2014, when cnn reported from sources at the fbi, in which i've had corroborated myself, that on the captain's flight simulator system at home, there was a flight path that was nearly identical to what we'd been talking about. why on earth would a captain at home practice a flight on a simulator that leads to fuel exhaustion in the middle of the ocean? i don't know of any pilot that would do that. pilots like to land on short runways, they like to land on high runways, do all kinds of things. but practicing a circuitous route that leads to fuel exhaustion in the ocean, which cnn has recorded was on that flight simulator, i think maybe
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we're overlooking -- >> richard's chomping at the bit here. >> miles, you're being disingenuous in remembering that particular incident, because you've not recounted how the fbi specifically said there is nothing suspicious on that flight simulator. >> you know what, richard. richard, the fbi people who looked at that are not pilots. and any pilot looking at that would say, that doesn't make sense. nobody has -- >> you're changing a story. >> no, no, i'm telling you what i know and what i've heard independently of that. i'm just telling you -- >> one minute you're quoting the fbi, supporting your theory, and now, when i quote the fbi saying there was nothing suspicious on it, you immediately turn it around and say, oh, no, the fbi don't know what they're talking about in this situation. which is it, miles? >> i'm just telling you how they characterize what was a factual account of what's on that computer was inaccurate. and that's because they didn't understand the significance of
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what was on that flight simulator. i think we're overlooking a big issue here. >> john, i'm not sure you want to get into the middle of these guys, but what's your thought of that being on the flight simulator? >> my thought is accident investigators are driven by the facts. and facts on a conspiracy theorist and somebody in the lower compartment taking control of the airplane are pretty thin. the facts that indicate a human intervention to make this airplane go where it did are a lot stronger. however, everything is on the table. until the facts drive us one way or the other. >> yeah. john, good to have you on. miles o'brien, richard quest, as well. just ahead tonight, new details about the fate of cecil's cubs. could their uncle actually be stepping up to keep them safe after their father, cecil, was killed? plus, other new developments in the search for the american dentist who killed cecil. we'll talk to jack hanna ahead. also ahead, the legal exotic
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welcome back. tonight, dr. walter palmer's whereabouts are still a mystery, even as calls for his extradition to zimbabwe grow. today, zimbabwe's environment minister called the minnesota dentist a foreign poacher who needs to be held accountable. unless you've been offline or a remote island for days, you already know that dr. palmer killed a famous african lion cecil on a hunting trip this month. two local men who helped him are now facing charges. the u.s. fish and wildlife service are investigating the incident. today they say representatives for dr. palmer have contacted them, but where exactly the doctor is remains unknown. in a moment, we'll dig deeper on the extradition process. but tonight there is good news about cecil's cubs that were thought to be in danger. that's because when the leader of a pride of lions dies, the lion that takes over typically kills the dead liolion's progen but the cubs may have a
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protector, an unlike one. david mckenzie joins me with more on that. what about these concerns about the cubs? what do we know? >> well, with anderson, what we do know, usually in these cases, when a dominant male lion leaves the pride or is killed, another lion will come in and kill those cubs. cecil had 12 young cubs and more offspring than that. there were a lot of worries that another lion would come in and kill them. yet another bad news story out of this story, which has lale touched a nerve globally, this killing of cecil the lion. but oxford university professors telling us that, in fact, jericho, cecil's brother, is protecting those lion cubs for the moment. so, yes, a bit of good news tonight. >> is that common? that a brother, a lion brother would do this? >> well, it is common, because, you know, this is a large pride of lions and it's all about
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bloodlines, genetically. if an animal feels that it might have some of sitz genetic code, as strp, in those young cubs, it will protect them. and look, i'll put this delicately. jericho might have been the father of some of those cubs as well, so he's kind of hedging his bets there, when it comes to protecting the overall pride. so, yeah, anderson, it's quite normal, but there's still a threat from other lions. and the bigger picture is here that lion populations have been decimated in the last few decades. and this case of killing cecil the lion has certainly put a very strong spotlight on the issue of poaching generally, anderson? >> i understand the cubs are not actually being tracked right now, so conservation has to find the adult females first in order to find out exactly how the cubs are doing, right? >> well, that's right. and you know, they track several of those lions. ironically, this whole tracking process was to really research what the effect of hunting was on lions, on the margins of this national park in zimbabwe.
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obviously, the effect has been pretty bad given the fact that one of those lions, cecil, was lured or strayed out of the park and was killed. and the worldwide attention on this has led to an outpouring of support for this oxford project. they have more than $400,000 in just a few days to their site. they say they hope this tragic story will help raise the issue of poaching of lions and generally of the wildlife illegal trade in africa and elsewhere. >> yeah, the decimation of many different species. david, thank you. as we said, this story has sparked intense outrage. protesters have targeted dr. palmer's office and one of his homes. petitions calling for his extradition have collected hundreds of thousands of signatures. the doctor is certainly not the first sport hunter to kill a lion in africa. zimbabwe does allow lions to be hunted. at issue is the way cecil was killed. i want to dig deeper with jack hanna, host of "jack hanna's
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wild countdown." also danny issavalos. jack, when you heard what happened, what went through your mind? >> when i heard it, i didn't believe it. when i was born in 1947, there were over 450,000 lions. when my daughters were born, there were 150,000. today, there are less than 30,000. >> when an animal like cecil is killed, it doesn't happen in a vacuum. it has repercussions, ripple effects tlouts the rest of the pride, doesn't it? >> yes, i understand it's a brother of cecil is now taking care of those cubs. mideast monitoring them and watching over them, which as you might know, in our country, the mountain lion, for example, if it's around when the babies are even born, it's consumed in 30 seconds. the cheetah loses her first
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birth the first time around because she sometimes consumes them. >> the brother is named jericho and there are some reports that it may be caring for the babies, which could be good news. danny, there's an extradition request made by zimbabwe officials by for dr. palmerpipe wondering what is that process? could he be extradited? >> there's two issues. the legal issue and political issue. and legally, the u.s. has had an extradition treaty with zimbabwe since 2000. and all that's required is what's called dual criminality. some treaties list actual extraditable offenses, but others actually say, if it's a crime there and a crime here, you have that duality of criminality, and you can ext extradite the person. after that, the u.s. attorneys will initiate a proceedings in district court and only thing that happens at the hearing is that the judge determines if there's probable cause that the crime was committed. it's a very low bar. so legally, it would appear that
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as long as they establish that this kind of hunting, the law that was broken, has a parallel here, he should be extradited. that's the legal question. but ultimately, this does become a political issue. as does all international law, whether it be criminal or civil, because it really comes down to, what is zimbabwe's remedy if the united states just doesn't feel like handing this guy over? there's virtually nothing they can really do. so at its core, all international law is ultimately political. zimbabwe can't do really anything to us, if we decide we don't want to extradite this citizen. but that's a decision that will be made by the department of state, and not the judiciary and not the u.s. attorneys. their mission under the treaty and under most extradition treaties is legally very clear and ultimately, they are little more than rubber stampers in the procedure. >> and of course, given the
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dictators in zimbabwe, mougabe, it's not clear they would want to hand over an american citizen. what do you think should happen to this hunter? >> somebody's got to pay the price. one thing, also, when you shoot an animal with a bow and arrow, which i haven't figured out yet how you couldn't see the collar. a rifle is different. the a bow and arrow is different. and let the animal go for 40 hours. there has to be a serious consequence to what has happened. that's all. there has to be one. >> danny, let me ask you about that. is there anything this dentist could be facing charges for here in the united states? >> possibly. there is federal. if the united states decides that he, in fact, not so much for the poaching or for the hunting, but if, instead, he bribed officials abroad, there is federal law that addresses not only bribery, of course, domestically, but bribery of foreign government officials. so in theory, he could be charged but i think that would
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be highly discretionary. another last thing to think about with extradition, anderson, is that a review in court, if this lands in federal court, may not look into whether or not zimbabwe's history on human rights gives them any concern about due process for this defendant. if it is an extraditable offense, the courts are prohibited from looking into the adequacy of that country's judicial system. >> that's interesting. danny cevallos, thank you. jack, always great to have you on. thank you. just ahead, the killing of cecil has renewed focus on exotic animal poaching. it's a huge illegal business bringing in billions of dollars every year and danger to animals at risk of extinction, slaughtered for their tusks and horn and other body parts. drew griffith takes us inside the trade. feeling intense knee pain?
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as killing of cecil the lion sparked outrage this week, other less famous animals were being slaughtered in africa. poachers in kenya reportedly killed five elephants in a national park. the killers reportedly hacked off the animals' husks and left their carcasses behind. elephants face even greater risk from poachers than lions.
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their tusks can be sold for more than $1,000 a pound. according to a recent study, poachers killed more than 100,000 african elephants between 2010 and 2012. those numbers are one piece of the illegal animal trade that generates billions of dollars every year. our senior investigative correspondent drew griffin tonight reports. >> reporter: step into this grotesque, macabre warehouse on the outskirts of denver, and you'll soon grasp just how endangered this world's endangered species really are. >> this is an animal that's about to go extinct, really. >> it's the same plight for the rhino and the tiger and the elephant. they could all go extinct within our lifetime. >> reporter: colleen shaver runs the wildlife repository for the u.s. fish and wildlife service and this is just a fraction of what wildlife officials recover, just enough to show how repulsive the trade in endangered dead animals can be. >> you get shipments in here every day? >> every single day. it depends, the size of the shipment. sometimes it will be one box
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full of, you know, 50 different items. sometimes it's 50 of these smaller boxes, maybe of jewelry of some type or another. it's really variable on what we get from day to day. >> reporter: shelf after shelf of endangered tiger heads, even a stuffed tiger fetus. tons of elephant ivory, bizarre and worthless medicines made from illegally poached animals. and, of course, the extremely endangered black rhinos. whole horns, horns crushed into medicine, carved into statuettes. >> this is a baby rhino foot. it's turned into a pencil holder. there are just 2,500 of these black rhinos left in the wild, protected now by armed soldier. this animal alive, but its horn cut off by poachers. most are not so lucky. their carcasses left to rot while their valuable horn is smuggled across the globe. the u.s. department of justice says illegal species trade is
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driven by mostly asian buyers, willing to pay up to $60,000 for ki kilo. >> we also have, basically, the full snout of which you can feel, still the skin. >> reporter: according to shaver, wealthy hosts in vietnam have even used ground up rhino horns as a party favor, said to cure a hangover. >> not only their status symbol, but of their wealth and their ability to provide this to their guests. >> reporter: and of course it doesn't work. >> right, it doesn't work. >> reporter: to stop the killing, the u.s. government has targeted people who deal in the illegal animal trade. and according to the u.s. government, that includes an antique dealer in south florida named chris hayes. >> do you have anything to say? >> reporter: for 2 1/2 years, hayes and his internet auction site sold black rhino horns, some for as much as $80,000. his cut, he admitted in court documents, 31% of every sale. hayes pleaded guilty and on may 20th, was sentenced to three
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years in prison. in court he told the judge he made a terrible mistake. leaving court, shielded by friends, he said almost nothing. >> can you explain to us, why you were selling these horns? you obviously knew, for 2 1/2 years, according to prosecutor that you were selling these horns. >> i don't -- it doesn't matter. >> reporter: according to the government, chris hayes and his elite art companies were involved in the selling of more than 19 pounds of rare engaged black rye is no rows horn worth about 700,000. and while there was no human victim involved, each horn represented a dead and endangered animal. smuggling, poaching, bribery, and even organized crime. government estimates have put the global trade in illegal animal products as high as $10 billion. hayes was caught trying to arrange sales to asian buyers in canada, texas, even milan, italy. but buyers and the sellers,
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more breaking news tonight. hillary clinton's campaign has released eight years of tax records. they show the from 2007 to 2014, mrs. clinton and former president bill clinton earned nearly $141 million. they paid almost $31 million in federal taxes and donated nearly $15 million to tax. jeff zeleny joins us. the fact that the clintons have become very wealthy since leaving the office, that's certainly not a surprise. people know that. actual dollar figures and tax returns, i guess there's clearly a reason they released this stuff on a friday afternoon. it's like classic late summer document dump. >> it's so clintonian. but so much wealth. this is $141 million we're talking about here. of course, they gave a lot of money away to a charity, but this really, you know, it goes right at the narrative, against the narrative that hillary
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clinton's most famous comment that she was dead broke when they left the white house. this is not dead broke. look, i don't think voters punish people for their wealth, but this does feed into the narrative of, is she out of touch with voter? i think it could be more damaging in their democratic primary. if you look at where she made the money from. so many speaking fees, from goldman sachs, from other wall street intent 'tis. that's where it could be a bigger problem. we know they were wealthy. now we know how wealthy they are. >> and the statement from her doctor, aimed at any criticisms that she's too old, especially if she ends up running against someone much younger. >> she got a clean bill of healthy from her doctor. she's on a couple medications. most interesting, i thought, her mother lived well into her 90s or her early 90s. her father lived well into his 80s. so, clearly meant to show that she is -- she's fit for office. she says she exercises regularly
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and she's in a relatively strong health for someone her age. >> she and jeb bush were at the same event today in florida. they spoke separately, but she went after jeb bush, not by name, but using one of his slogans. i want to play that. >> i don't think you can credibly say that everyone has a right to rise and then say you're for facing out medicare or for repealing obamacare. people can't rise if they can't afford health care. >> it was interesting, because i think when jeb bush came on, i think it was like an hour later, he didn't really seem to respond to that, and he continued to use that phrase. was the bush campaign caught off guard by her doing that? >> i don't know if they were caught off guard, because they did have about 45 minutes or so to think about it. but right to rise is the name of her super pac and she used that right against him. but i don't think this was the kind of audience for him to hit her back all that hard. it was the national urban league. a large african-american audience here. so the audience was probably more supportive of her.
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but it just goes to show that she thinks her ultimate opponent, if she wins the primary, is jeb bush. never mind this donald trump summer fling, she's clearly looking ahead here. and in florida of all places, she was going hard after his record. it was an interesting window into what could be ahead a year from now if everything goes as she thinks it will. >> jeff, thanks very much. >> thanks, anderson. a lot more happening tonight and gary tuchman as a 360 bulletin. >> anderson, at sunset, moments ago, the coast guard ended its search for missing teen voters, perry cohen and austin stephanos. the coast guard searched an area the size of missouri and only found their overturned boat. a private search for the 14-year-olds will continue. the world health organization says that so far, a new ebola vaccine is 100% effective. the vaccine has been tested in guinea since march. thousands of health workers along with relatives and coworkers of ebola patients have voluntarily participated in the
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new developments tonight in the case of fired university of cincinnati police officer ray tensing. he is out of jail on bond, facing a murder charge. now, he said he acted in self-defense when he shot an unarmed black man during a traffic stop. samuel dubose. the incident was caught on the officer's body cam. >> well, i'm trying to figure out if you have a license or not. go ahead and take your seat belt off for me. >> i didn't do nothing. >> go ahead and take your seat belt off. stop! stop! [ gunfire ] >> two other officers were also on the scene.
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police have released their body camera videos as well and we now know what those officers told the grand jury. also tonight, new insight on another traffic stop by officer tensing. jason carroll joins us from cincinnati. so this new cell phone video of officer tensing during another traffic stop i want to play for our viewers. first of all, let's take a look. >> what's the charge? >> step out of the car. >> step out of the car. >> for what? >> what am i stepping out of the car for? >> because i asked you to. >> we're asking for your supervisor. >> it doesn't matter. >> though, we're asking -- are we free to go? can you write the ticket so we can go? >> jason, where does this new footage, where was it released from and what does it actually show? this is another traffic stop. >> it is. it's from 2014, shortly after raymond tensing joined the university pd. and i think what's going to happen is, when the police union
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takes a look at that video, anderson, they're going to say, look, this is another example of tensing keep can go his cool. these two young men who were inside that car were pulled over because they had some sort of a broken bumper. and as you heard there on the tape there, some of the men, the men became agitated at a certain point. profanity, which you did not hear, was used at a certain point. they asked to speak to his supervisor. and at one point, one of the young man inside the car actually asked for the cincinnati p.d. to show up and handle the situation. eventually, what happened was, tensing's supervisor was called and the two men were asked -- were free to go on a violation, on a minor violation. so i think the union is going to say, this is an example of an officer keeping his cool. >> and jason, the other two officers at the scene, they do testify to the grand jury, do we know more of what they said? >> reporter: yeah, that was really the significant development today, anderson. phillip kid and david
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lindenschmidt, as you recall, both of these officers initially corroborated tensing's story, saying that they believed tensing had been dragged by dubose's car. that is not what they told the grand jury. they will not face any charges. anderson? >> jason carroll, thank you. the cnn special report "vanished:the mystery of malaysian flight 370" begins now. for 16 months, a mystery. >> nobody expects a 777 to vanish. it just doesn't happen. >> a state of the art aircraft with 239 people onboard disappears. >> malaysian 370. and a massive search finds nothing. >> it's in exactly the most remote part of the world. >> now,