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17 candidates. and that's just on one side of the aisle. 464 days left until any votes are counted. two major american political dynasties, and one and only donald trump. what does the rest of the world make of all of this? i have a great international panel to talk about just that. and the nuclear deal with iran has upset many atop that list israel for certain, but next in line is surely saudi arabia. we'll take you inside the secretive kingdom with a former u.s. ambassador. nobel peace prize winner on keeping kids in school. why that means something very

different in india than it does in the west. finally, something is rotten in lebanon. the pearl of the mediterranean is becomingputred. what's all the stink about? since 9/11 america has responded aggressively to the danger of terrorism. launching military operations and spending over $800 billion on homeland security. americans have accepted an unprecedented expansion of government powers and invasions of their privacy to prevent attacks. since 9/11 74 people have been killed in america by terrorists according to "new america." calculating using cdc data in the same period over 150,000 americans have been killed in

gun homicides. and to tackle that problem, we have done nothing. our attitude seems to be one of fatalism. another day, another mass shooting. which is almost literally true. the website "shooting tracker.com documents that in the first 207 days of 2015 america had 207 mass shootings. after one of these takes place now, everyone goes through a ritual of shock and horror and then moves on aware that nothing will change accepting that this is just one of those quirks of american life. but it is 150,000 deaths. that's almost three vietnams. after last week's incident in lafayette, louisiana, the governor of the state and presidential candidate bobby jindal pointed his finger at what has now become the standard explanation for these events. three days after the tragedy he

said on "face the nation,". >> it seems like the person always has a history of mental illness. >> it makes little sense to focus on mental health. look at these statistics for the united states and other countries provided by gunpolicy.oring. america has a gun homicide rate that's at least a dozen times higher than most other industrialized countries. it is 50 times higher than germany's, for example. we don't have 50 times as many mentally disturbed people as germany does. but we do have many many many more guns. former texas governor rick perry's solution is to loosen the few restrictions on guns that do exist so that in the lafayette movie theater other patrons would have been armed and could have shot the gunman. the notion that the solution in dark crowded movie theaters is a mass shootout is so dangerous

that frankly it should rule perry out as a serious candidate. when asked about such proposals after the last mass shooting in a movie theater in aurora colorado william bratten, who has been police chief in three american cities dismissed the notion entirely. to him the solution is obvious. we need sanity in our gun laws. gun control can reduce these numbers of incidents, he told cnn. we have done the opposite. we've actually loosened restraints on the ability and ease with which people can buy, own and carry guns. this is partly because, in june 2008, the supreme court broke with 200 years of precedent and in a 5-4 decision written by justice ant ninscalia made regulation of guns much harder. in his powerful dissent justice john paul stevens pointed out

that scalia's opinion was an act of extreme judicial activism that for two centuries federal courts recognized the government had the power to regulate the sale of firearms and that the supreme court had in particular for at least seven decades consistently ruled in this way. it is not an act of fate that has caused 150,000 americans to die over the last 15 years. it is a product of laws court decisions, lobbying and pandering politicians. and we can change it. for more go to cnn.com/fareed and read my "washington post" column this week. let's get started. as i sat one day watching coverage of the 17 republican candidates for president and five democratic ones as i thought about the fact that

there were still more than 450 days before the election itself as i considered the fact that if jeb bush or hillary clinton wins and then wins re-election in 2020 there will have been a bush or clinton in the white house for 28 of the prior 36 years. and as i watched the donald with his big mouth and his almost bigger make-america-great-again trucker's hat i said to myself i wonder what the rest of the world thinks when they see all this. let's find out. joining me in new york are timothy stanley the british opinion writer currently a columnist for united kingdom's daily telegraph. anne apple baum. columnist for the "washington post" and pulitzer prize-winning book author. she is american by birth but lived overseas for two decades and is married to a polish politician. from mexico city.

jorge is the former fortune minister of mexico and a professor at nyu. in london nina is an iraqi journalist currently assistant editor in chief at a newspaper there and a yale world fellow. what does the world think when they're looking at american elections? >> in a word, they think we're insane. our elections are, as far as i know the longest one in any democracy you can find. and of course by far the most expensive. the last polish presidential candidate on his campaign spent the equivalent of $4 million, which i think might buy you a house seat in this country but probably not a senate seat. the total cost of the last british general parliamentary election campaign was 25 million pounds. that gives you some idea of the different length cost length of debate everything.

>> you say, tim, luna tics are never mad in money. donald trump. what do you think? brits are used to eccentrics. what do brits think of drum? >> we see him as being part of a long line of candidates like him. we're used to this idea of the snake oil salesman. the guy who steps in and says vote for me. i'll build roads, give you health care. then we see them burn up. we don't expect them to do very well but it conforms to a particular cliche in the european mind about america and how its politics work. it's about money. it's about buying yourself attention. about personality but mostly about anger. one thing that's slightly troubling for europeans is there is a lot of talk about what americans are angry about. immigration, health care all those things. we're not getting a very long list about what america is going

to do about it and what these candidates actually stand for. the europeans are thinking we've heard this before. it's amusing, it's fun. it's eccentric but speaks to a politics that is kind of stuck. >> jorge. the angle in trump's case seems directed particularly and aggressively toward mexico. how is mexico receiving this rather extraordinary candidacy? >> fareed i don't think it's seen as a lot of fun in mexico or central america or parts of latin america. despite this being the usual silly season of american electoral politics trump has been very insulting and offensive. he has been racist. he has generalized. he has been vicious in many of his comments. this is not taken as funny at all here. what's worse, perhaps, fareed is that with a if youfew exceptions jeb bush rick perry and graham

most of his rivals are not pushing back at all against trump, specifically on the question of the racist comments he has made constantly about mexican migrants to the united states or central american migrants or caribbean migrants or south american migrants. so there is a lot of discontent a lot of confusion in mexico of course mainly but elsewhere also in latin america, about who this guy is and why aren't the other guys saying really anything about it. why aren't they pushing back why aren't they differentiating themselves from him. it's making people upset here and they would like to see a stronger reaction in the united states from more civilized voices. these are american barbarians to put it very simply. >> nina in iraq there are many many people forget iraq is actually a democracy and quite a lively one. do you have tons of candidates

and lots of jostling? a lot of craziness in iraqi democracy, right? >> there is. and having lots of candidates as you said is something that iraqis have gotten used to in the last 12 years. the presidential system is different, of course because the president is almost an agreement between the different political parties who they choose to be president. but the parliamentary elections bring up all sorts of names and parliamentary lists. we're used to having different names and crazies on the side. >> if donald trump isn't going to win, who does the world want to be the next american president, when we come back. we live in a world of mobile technology, but it is not the device that is mobile, it is you. real madrid have about 450 million fans.

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about the american elections with anne apple baum. timothy and nina and jorge. you wrote something fascinating in your washington post article. somebody looks up and says we haven't mentioned the united states once in this entire conversation and everyone agrees it's very odd and they go back to talk about what they were talking about and never get to america. >> i'm afraid it does happen. i'm not sure it would happen on every topic but it happens often

on european topics and when often happens when you talk about russia. there is a sense that the united states is not fully part of all of these conversations anymore, that it's distracted. that's going to grow worse over the next few months over the elections. >> as a result do you think that means people don't care if it's bush or clinton or who? >> i think people care but they're more san wynn of the way is it happen. the huge welcome for obama, cheering crowds in berlin before he was elected. were also overdone. people have a little bit of you know they think, okay whoever is president, many things will remain the same a few things will change and there is neither an enormous amount of hope nor an enormous amount of fear attached to the presidency anymore as there has been over the last decade or two. the sense that this is

world-changing and that our lives will all be different depending on who the next u.s. president is is kind of fading away. >> nina in iraq and in the middle east in general is there a feeling that the next president is consequential because of the iran deal because of isis? how are people seeing it? and do they have a preference? >> i'm afraid it's quite different in the middle east and a lot so in iraq. that people still think america is very consequential. is there is a sense that the current president really wanted to step back from iraq. he came in with a promise to withdraw from iraq and didn't really have any other policy in iraq until isis cropped up. people are waiting to see what happens with the next president who may be more engaged. there is a curiosity, very much so. >> jorge, there is a big difference i assume for the

mexicans of the which is odd because, i mean mexico's leaders have for a long time worked closely with mexicans. the opening up of mexico both economically and politically was pretty much a partnership that had taken place with a lot of internationalist republicans like reagan and bush sr. now is there a stark divide where kind of all mexicans would just prefer democrats? >> i don't think so fareed for one reason which is none -- despite everything jeb bush is viewed as a frontrunner, someone likely to be the republican nominee. he is seen with actually a great deal of affection in mexico. first for the reason he has been married for 44 years to a mexican national not a mexican american. she was born in mexico and maintains a lot of roots here. jeb bush's children could become mexican citizens overnight if they wanted to. and his stances on immigration and his knowledge of mexico and

other parts of latin america, he lived in venezuela also i think bring him closer to the opinion that a lot of people in mexico and latin america would have. at the end of the day, people are, at least elites relatively happy because on the one hand if it's hillary clinton, this is the first time since thomas jefferson that a u.s. secretary of state has become president. it has never happened. this would give her inevitably an enormous amount of experience. i think there is a certain ease a certain tranquillity about who, if it's either of those two. the problem, of course what happens if that's not either of those two. >> you talked about this tim. you think the republican party has many sane and serious candidates but they have to make their way through the land mines that is donald trump right now. >> absolutely. they have to take this

opportunity as a teachable moment to say, here is where we stand in relation to that and define themselves by it. some candidates are doing it. rick perry has come out strongly against him. there is a problem about trump's character. if you fight against him you come out in the mud in the struggle. that's what maybe some of the candidates are worried about. we in europe expected a change to come over america when obama was elected and yet eight years later we'll still seeing stories about race riots and income inequality. there is a feeling if it's bush versus clinton again, when is the change going to come? how does america move forward? i think that's the serious angle to europe's amusement to trump is that is sort of reflects a sense of things not changing not evolving. >> the other aspect of trump that i think is his appeal is that he is not a standard factory manufactured politician where everything is poll tested. i remember you wrote something

once about how american politicians seem so manufactured and the families seem so manufactured and this is so different in much of continental europe certainly. you were the wife of the foreign minister. you pointed out you barely ever had to go campaigning with him and were regarded as weird if you went campaigning with your husband. >> yes. there is a very different attitude towards families and spouses. it varies a lot from country to country. running for president is different than running for parliament. i think you can also though see trump as part of a tradition or a change that's happening which you can see in european politics as well, which is that the crazy candidates coming out of the blue attracting a lot of attention. you had this in italy. a comedian that attracted a lot of attention. there are a lot of elections around the continent being disrupted by unexpected forces

from the far left or right. sometimes anti immigration. which give the people the feeling they're voting for something real that give them the sense that there is an edge or an emotional surge to politics which they don't feel from the mainstream parties. in that sense the united states is similar to a lot of other mature democrats. >> we'll leave it there. next on "gps" why in the world is turkey just about the only country in the middle east putting a serious effort into the fight against isis? where are the rest of them? we will describe the concept of free-riding when we come back.

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. now for our what in the world segment. the big news out of the middle east is that turkey is now going to take the fight to isis. it's striking targets in syria by air, and it's letting the united states use its air bases to launch attacks, which will allow american air strikes to be more frequent and effective. the two countries will try to create an isis-free zone in northern syria. great!

but as with most things in the middle east the truth is more complicated. in the first set of strikes, it seems that the turks are also attacking kurdish fighters in iraq many of whom are allied in the struggle against isis. why? well fearing kurdish separatism at home turkey has been at odds with military kurds elsewhere in the region as well. the turks' second ulterior motive according to observers, is political gain at home. the president's party failed to win a majority in the recent elections forcing it to seek a coalition government with other parties. the strikes could stoke the strikes of kurdish nationalism around him, allowing him to call another election and get a majority. after the elections, well some observers think the air strikes with peter out once they've served their domestic purpose.

but at least turkey is now doing something. the strange reality is that, while isis is a mortal threat to its neighbors, its neighbors don't seem to be doing much about it content to let the united states fight their battles. jordan saudi arabia, the united arab emirates and bahrain have been involved. but the united states has carried out over 2,000 air strikes against isis in syria, meanwhile the arab allies have flown just over 100 air strikes combined. denmark has flown as many air strikes as those arab allies have flown in syria combined. the netherlands has conducted almost twice as many strikes against isis as the combined total of arab strikes in syria.

the united arab emirates suspended air strikes in syria for a while because they were worried there were insufficient plans to save personnel who may be captured a senior military official told cnn. guys this is war. sometimes planes get shot down and people get hurt. saudi arabia is the largest market for the u.s. defense trade in the world, according to ihs in its annual report on defense. in 2015 one out of every seven defense import dollars will be spent by saudi arabia ihs predicts. together saudi arabia and the uae imported more defense equipment than all of western europe combined. where are these weapons? if they are not to be used against a mortal foe like isis when are you planning to use them? egypt has the most combat aircraft in the region according to ihs, but so far they've only managed a few air attacks on isis targets in libya

and none in syria. so before washington expands its war against isis maybe we should end the free-riding and get the nations in the region to start fighting against an organization that threatens their very existence. next on "gps," we'll take you inside a country that is opaque to outsiders, the secretive kingdom of saudi arabia. it is angry over the iran nuclear deal it's been bombing yemen for the last four months. what is going on? we have a great guide. america's former ambassador. at quicken loans technology, engineering and coordination come together to deliver a customized mortgage experience. quicken loans: home buy. refi. power. official mortgage sponsor of the pga tour. ♪

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was once a group of warring tribes in the desert. saudi arabia and its intentions become in the news for two reasons. first if israel is the nation most upset by a nuclear deal with iran, by all rights saudi arabia should be a close second. the sunni monarchy fears a resurgency. secondly saudi arabia has been bombing rebels in yemen for more than four months now. what is going on? to go inside the secretive kingdom and inside the minds of saudi arabia's leaders i asked robert jordan to join me. the bush white house sent jordan's nomination to be the u.s. ambassador to saudi arabia on september 12th 2001. jordan is the author of the new book "desert diplomat inside saudi arabia following 9/11," listen in. >> robert jordan thank you for joining us. >> good to be with you, fareed. >> you were an odd choice for ambassador to saudi arabia as you yourself say in the book.

you helped bush in a crucial legal battle. you represented him in a case that essentially won -- saved his political career. and from that how did you, as somebody with no middle eastern experience didn't speak a word of arabic end up in saudi arabia. >> i asked myself that a number of times. as it turns out, the saudis refused to give diplomatic credentials to a career foreign service officer. they want someone who is a head of the president who can go over the heads of bureaucracy who can actually speak for the president with the king and his leadership. >> you point out that the united states did not actually have an ambassador in saudi arabia when 9/11 happens and when the world realizes that 15 of the 19 hijackers were in fact saudis. >> exactly. my predecessor fowler had resigned and left office in the

early spring of 2001, so the position was vacant. it is a turns out even the deputy chief arrived for her job as acting ambassador on september 10th. she had her hands full within 24 hours and i came a few weeks later. >> in dealing with the saudis give us a picture of what that was like because you get there, 9/11 has happened and we all remember this. initially the saudi official response was, well maybe these guys weren't saudis if they were saudis we know nothing about it. >> one of my first calls was on then the governor of riyadh prince salman who is now the king. his response was emphatic. this could not have been saudis. we couldn't have done this. this had to have been an israelii plot. the ma saad must have done this. i had to bring a cia briefer out

and show the princes some compelling evidence that it was indeed saudis who were the hijackers. >> it's disturbing that you say the current king his initial reaction was essentially, you know highly defensive and in a way suggesting that saudi arabia did not have this big terrorism problem. >> i think they were in denial to a great agree, particularly at some of these levels. and it took a great deal of effort on our part to develop the cooperation which finally did come. >> eventually it came because al qaeda actually attacked within saudi arabia. >> the greatest leap forward was after the bombings and on may 12th of 2003, when three western housing compounds were blown up by al qaeda operatives. at that point crown prince abdullah said to me he understood that they had a problem, that they would take immediate action to capture or kill the attackers and to treat just as harshly anyone who give

them comfort or aid or even tried to justify what they did. >> describe salman the current king of saudi arabia. because as you said when he was governor of riyadh you dealt with him. >> he was governor for almost 50 years. so he had to have started in his 20s. he was and has been considered one of the least corrupt leaders. he has been considered probably the hardest working member of the cabinet. he would be in his office at 8:00 every morning. the story goes that when he was appointed defense minister he went over the ministry of defense at 8:00 and the only person there was the gate guard. the next day everyone was there at 8:00. >> do you think saudi actions in the last few years -- they've, after all, militarily intervened one might say invied two countries. bahrain and yemen, for the first time in decades. is this motivated by a clear, thought-through strategy or is this kind of just fear of iran and all of its influence?

>> they have not articulated a strategy. it does appear that their strategy is to be against iran at every turn and to presume that iran's hand is behind every negative act, certainly in their eastern province in bahrain and now in yemen. we haven't seen what the political objective is of the adventure in yemen. i think this could come back to haunt them. >> robert jordan thank you for coming on. >> my pleasure thanks. up next a rare treat for us all. the most recent nobel peace prize winner. we all know malala. but do you know the man she shared the prize with. i'll introduce you to kailash satyarthi, a man trying to fix the world's future one child at a time.

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day of my schooling. i was a 5-year-old child. i saw a cobbler boy outside the school gate. that meat me a little bit uncomfortable. then every morning and evening after schooling hours, when i would go back home i saw him. and that made me more angry inside. and one day i gathered all my courage and went straight to the father of the boy who was also sitting alongside and i asked him, sir, why don't you send your son to school with all of us? he looked at me as it was a very heavy question. he said i never thought about it and i started working since my childhood and so was my father and my grandfather and now my son. then he looked at me and said that abuji, meaning sir, we people are born to work. on his part it was an answer but for me it was a question and a challenge for the rest of my

life that why some children are born to work at the cost of their childhood and freedom and education and dreams? it was unacceptable for me. i refused to accept it then and i still, struggling with that that no child must be born to work at the cost of childhood and freedom. so -- >> but then when you were an engineer you had another encounter. >> then i started in magazine in hindi. one day a desperate father came and knocked my door to publicize his story. then i heard him. i found that he and his wife and many other people were trafficked from his native village to work at a brick kiln 17 years ago. >> so he had been working -- >> essentially in slavelyry for 17 years. not allowed to go away.

not paid anything. there was a fence in which all the families were forced to live. children grew up there and had never seen the outside world. his daughter who was born and grew up in slalvery was about to be sold to a brothel. somehow the price could not be negotiated. i said if she was my daughter what could i do. not write the story. i couldn't sit for a second. finally we were able to rescue the 15-year-old daughter and also 36 people altogether. >> how widespread is this problem of indentured servitude, slavery and child slavery which has been your focus? >> 168 million children are full-time child laborers. 168 million. out of them 85 million are working in what they call the

worst places of child labor and the official statistics suggest that 5.5 million children are in virtual slavery. >> are governments doing enough now? >> i think it's much better. things have changed. in india as well as all over the world. the number of child laborererslaborers i'm saying now 168 million. that's a remarkable progress from 268 million number to this number in the last 20 years. out of school children were about 130 million, and now they have gone -- the number has gone down and it is 58 million or so. so that brings us strong hope for me. >> you in your ted talk talked about how it was very important for people to be angry that you liked anger. explain why. >> because anger is a power. it is a power to fight injustices. i did not want to use my anger

for destruction, for violence or for other negative things. but i tried to preserve it as a positive power, because that gives me energy to fight injustices around me and i try to convert my anger into ideas and ideas into action and action which can make the world a better world. >> so you're using your nobel peace prize, the money and the fame to create a foundation. you announced it in the united states. you had the ceremony at the lincoln memorial. why the lincoln memorial? >> we have chosen the memorial because this is the continuity of these things. because we are all making history. i'm very confident that we will make slavery history very soon. we'll make child labor history very soon. those who were joining in this campaign those who were present there, they were not only witness to making of history,

but they are partners they are change-makers, they are the people who are writing the script of the history of victory of liberty over slavery. >> kailash satyarthi, pleasure to have you on. >> thank you so much. next on "gps," what is more important? a president or a trash collector? one country was lacking both and the answer became quite clear. i'll explain it all when we come back. big day? ah, the usual. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what's up for the next shift? ah, nothing much. just keeping the lights on. (laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy. see you tomorrow, mac. see you tomorrow, sam. just another day at norfolk southern.

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and our environment, and if me driving a that truck means that somebody gets to go home safer, then i'll drive it every day of the week. together, we're building a better california. last week nasa released this sunlit image of earth taken from a satellite one million miles away. it brings me to my question of the week. when was the first time astronauts took a blue marble photograph of earth, a photo showing the entire world in one frame? he 1963? 1972? 1979? or 1983? stay tuned and we'll tell you the correct answer. this week's book of the week is john paul stevens, "six amendments. how and why we should change the constitution." after a lifetime on the supreme

court this middle of the road justice proposed six simple and elegant ways to solve some of the stickiest problems in america. whether you agree with all or not, this brilliant, brief book will make you think at length. and now, for the last look. the small country of lebanon is bursting with excess at the moment. there is an excess of refugees more than one million syrian refugees have flooded across the border in the last three years. now there is an excess of trash in its capital city. i don't mean slightly overflowing garbage bins. i mean trash piling high on the streets, reeking and rotting in the heat and giving off fumes as citizens try to burn it. the country's biggest landfill closed this month and a divided government couldn't agree on new sites for the trash facing heavy protests. why didn't the president step in and do something about this mess? well there is no president. the city may be full of trash,

but politically there is a vacuum. the lebanese parliament failed to elect a new president not once not twice, but 26 times since last spring as many have reported. the government has long been wrought with political and sectarian divisions and these tensions have been exacerbated by the war in neighboring syria. this week the environment minister did announce an agreement to clean up the trash had been reached, though the details are murky. many lebanese see the garbage crisis as indicative of their country's woes that the government failures fill their lives with rubbish. the correct against to the "gps" challenge question is b. the first photograph of the earth was taken by the crew of apollo 17 in 1972. nasa tells us it was the first time photography was used to capture the earth from far enough away to see the whole planet 28,000 miles away.

the 1972 blue marble image looks quite similar to this most recent beauty which makes it even more remarkable that the latest sunlit image was actually taken from one million miles away. thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week. i will see you next week. good morning. i'm brian stelter. it's time for "reliable sources." ahead this hour as we count down to the first republican presidential debate two of the candidates are standing by one who will definitely be on the prime time debate stage and one who probably will not make it. plus i have a great story for you. a journalist fighting to break the media's trump addiction. later in the hour we'll look back at the popular polarizing pioneering jon stewart as he prepares to sign off from "the daily show." let's begin with the hillary clinton campaign calling out