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great panel, even though we do have disagreement. that's part of it. don you will be back with much more at 1:00 p.m. eastern on your program, cnn tonight. er you can always follow us on twitter. tweet the @sit room. erin burnett out front starts right now. out front next where is donald trump? nearly all of the republican candidates gathering at this moment on stage together for the first time. noticeably absent, mr. trump. is it payback? and the search for mh370 expanding tonight. investigators about to analyze the debris that is almost certainly from the doomed plane. plus as outrage grows over the killing of cecil the lion another american is accused of illegal hunting in zimbabwe. are americans now being targeted? let's go out front.
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♪ good evening, i'm kate bath baldwin in for erin burr net. out front tonight, trump is a no-show. at this moment nearly all of the republican presidential candidates -- you are looking right now at live pictures -- they are gathering on stage in new hampshire. it is the first time that we're seeing so many of them on one stage together. you see them all right there. one notable exception you will see as this camera pans is the republican party's front-runner donald trump, who chose to skip it even though he is now topping the polls in the granite state. a new poll just released is showing trump with a clear lead in new hampshire, 24% of republican support. this is the first time any of the republican candidates has held a statistically significant lead in this important first in the nation primary state. and nationally trump solidifying his lead as well. a fox poll also just released showing trump with 26% support.
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his nearest rival, jeb bush at 15% a. new monmouth university poll shows trump now holds a 2 to 1 lead over bush. these new polls will help determine which candidates make the cut for the first republican presidential debate. that of course is thursday. it is almost certain at this point that trump will be center stage that night. but which of his rivals will he then face? athena jones is at the gop forum in manchester new hampshire for us tonight. athena at the last-minute, three of the candidates that are running for president, ted cruz mark owe rubio and rand paul they all announced they are staying back in washington for a senate vote. they are going to be participating via satellite. also missing, donald trump. why? hi kate. well he has given several reasons. said at one point -- his camp said he was angry about a critical editorial in the union leader newspaper.
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that's who is sponsoring the event. they published an editorial poking fun at donald trump after he questioned the heroism of arizona senator john mccain. that was a couple of weeks ago. you know of course that john mccain was a p.o.w. in vietnam for nearly six years. the union leader published a tongue in chic cheek editorial that trump knows about heroism because of his countless issues with gorgeous blonds. that isn't sit well with the trump camp. he also says he is not coming because there are too many candidates in this for forum. and he is also says he is not coming because the newspaper, the union leader will not endorse him. i should say this is about the voters. it is targeted at the early voting states not just in new hampshire, but also in arizona and iowa. it is a chance for more candidates to be heard had. they will not appear together on
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stage other than in the opening and closing shots. they will be appearing one by one to answer a q and a for about five minutes. that's what is happening. trump is not coming. from the looks offist those recent polls it's hard to tell if it's going to hurt him. >> nothing has hurt him so far. athena going to be an interesting night there in new hampshire. as athena points out trump may not be on the stage tonight but he is most certainly on the other candidates' minds. look at those polls. sara murray is out front. >> reporter: for donald trump, it's another day on top. today a monmouth university poll puts trump in the lead with 26% support among republican voters. a whopping 14 points ahead of his closest competitor jeb bush. yesterday it was an nbc wall street journal poll putting trump in first. >> my poll numbers started to shoot up like a rocket ship and they continue to go up. >> reporter: on thursday trump takes center stage once again. this time at the first gop
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debate in cleveland. the bombastic former television star is down playing expectations. >> i am going to be donald trump. i think if i'm not dump it's not going to look good. i'll do my best. i've never done it. before. >> reporter: and ms proing to play nice. >> i think i am a nice person. i think that's why my numbers go open. as they get to know me better. i would like to discuss the issues. i am not looking to take anybody out or be nasty. >> but they attack you. >> i've always counterpunched. >> reporter: on either side his closest rivals in the polls, jeb bush, and scott walker. filling out the right and the left, we have ben carson ted cruz mike huckabee rand paul, and marco rubio. but that leaves john casic, chris christie, and rick perry on the bubble, waiting to see how fox calculates their
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averages. and down playing anxiety about whether they will make the cut. >> in terms of being on the stage in that big dntd i'd like to be there. but this debate comes six months before the selection of a single delegate. >> reporter: that could mean one of trump us a toughest critics. >> let's get a pull up bar out there. >> reporter: won't be on the stij. >> as a lot of people recognize, this is not one-shot pony here. >> reporter: any polls that come out before tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern, including that fox news poll that shows trump in the lead could be a factor in moving these numbers and determining who makes the debate stage. we'll be keeping an eye on that as well as how these candidates plan to take on donald trump. kate. >> sara murray thank you so much. out front tonight, donald trump's campaign manager, corey lewandoski. thanks for coming in. we heard -- athena laid it out and the sarah talked about it as well. we heard the excuses about why
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donald trump is not at tonight's event. does this come down to the fact he was not happy about an editorial in the newspaper there? >> that's not the case. politicians love to talk. they want to get in front of the camera, want to talk, talk talk, don't gott want to get anything done. mr. trump is busy creating jobs today. >> he likes to talk. >> he is getting ready for the debate on thursday. 26% is double the polling numbers of any other candidate. and today wmur said there is a clear runner that's drumpl he is in first place for a reason because people are tired of politician who is want to get on stage who want to talk and make promises that aren't fulfilled. it's time for someone who has a proven record of getting things done. >> corey, he is leading in the national polls, leading in new hampshire. seems every time you are coming on, you are showing me another poll, and you are right. he is leading them.
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you say he is preparing for the debate. up until this point he has made it clear that he is not really preparing other than reading up on the news. if he is not preparing in public how is he preparing in private? >> he said he has never debated before. a number of these politicians stand up and talk and have rhetoric and say things they don't mean. >> why not take the opportunity tonight to practice. >> the format tonight is not conducive to getting your ideas across. you get 16 people on the stage, five minutes to make an opening statement. sit down and wait for 14 other people to talk. the debate is on thursday that's when mr. trump will participate. >> i spoke with the mod rater earlier today. here's what he said today. listen. >> i don't think donald trump is going to be a big part of the forum tonight. i think if candidates -- i'd be surprised if many bring buy him up at all. i intend to kind of have a trumpless forum talking about issues that voters here in iowa
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and south carolina think are important and they want to hear answers to their questions. >> a trump-less forum. that's what he was hoping for, because he wasn't going to show up. but, remember and this is important, this is being broadcast to south carolina voters iowa voters new hampshire voters. trump needs those voters. >> let's talk about the polls in south carolina. one came out today that says donald trump is at 30.4% in the poll. next closest rival is at 10%. we take nothing for granted. mr. trump has been to south carolina and iowa many times. >> he doesn't think this is important? >> that's not the case at all. mr. trump was very clear that this is not proper format to have a presidential level discussion with all the candidates on stage getting five minutes, there is no interaction, you can't comment, it is a five minute discussion. when we go to new hampshire, build trump talks to hundreds of thousands in the audience. that's what he plans to do once he's back there. >> what's the one thing i should
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be looking for come thursday' presidential debate. >> you will see him come with ideas how to make america get. >> acting presidential define that. >> exactly what i said, he will be acting presidential. >> he seems to be redefining the race so far. we'll see if he redefines the actions of being presidential. joining me bill -- you heard corey saying it, this forum is not consuesive for a presidential level debate. what do you think? >> he is doing fine following his instincts. he probably thinks it's more likely for him to make a mistake. he is act like a front-runner shunning the smaller debates. showing up at key occasions.
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i think he is going to be plateau out soon. at the end of the day, the primary voters are happy to polka finger at the establishment and saying we like trump. but he is not going to be the republican nominee. >> every time somebody set a growth ceiling for him he blows through it. look at the polls out tonight. he is at 26%. >> look -- and i spent long time earlier on -- i think i was ahead of the curve saying take trump seriously, the issues he is raising seriously, including illegal immigration, which all the establishment candidates are shying away from. on the other hand think of this in the end of july early august 2003 howard dean was leading the democrat field n. 2007 richard giuliani was leading and hillary clinton was leading the democratic. in 2011 rick perry was leading.
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in the last three cycles except for incumbent presidents on the competitive side of things, the front-runner at this time was not the person who won the nomination. trump has been expressive. i don't mean to take anything away from him. he has great talents but i think we are seeing the high water mark. maybe this debate thursday night will be the high water mark. >> we will see. the big question will be in the next couple of days who do the candidates do about donald trump is this? anything him or take him on. out front next, draft joe biden. the movement is growing tonight. is the vice president going to be jumping into the race? plus the search for mh370. it is growing, as investigators prepare to examine their best lead yet. are we any closer to finding out what happened to that missing plane. also breaking news. an arrest just made in the fatal shooting of a memphis police officer as we hear for the very first time what happened on the scene. >>
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with discreet edge notifications. . will he or won't he? source tell cnn vice president joe biden has not ruled out another run for president. it's something that he is son, beau who passed away in may, reportedly wanted him very much to do. so what does that mean for hillary clinton, though? senior washington correspondent jeff zeleny is out front. >> joe biden, i'm looking for a job. >> reporter: looking for a job. but the question for joe biden is which one? he has long eyed the presidency. and he's still considering joining the 2016 race. summertime speculation has suddenly hit full boil over whether he will challenge hillary clinton for the democrat nomination. one factor weighing heavy, his son, beau biden, urged his father to run before dying of brain cancer in may.
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and now, one of beau biden's close advisors is joining a grassroots movement called draft biden. and the vice president is holding political meetings of his own with his old network of supporters to see if there is interest in backing a new campaign. questions about clinton's candidate see hangover the biden boomlet. a recent poll showed only 37% viewed clinton as honest and trustworthy fo while 57% did not. for biden, 58% found him honest and trust worthily 37% did not. >> hillary does have a problem with trust in this country right now. and i do believe that when and if he decides to run, joe will add a new dimension to this race. >> reporter: biden has run for president twice before. he has never ruled out a third time. if he did, the gap gafs of four
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decades in politics would follow him into the race. like this expletive right before president obama signed the health care law. >> [ bleep ]. >> would you run if she runs? >> absolutely. that's not the reason not to run or two run. the question is am i convinced i am best positioned of anyone else to lead the country? >> reporter: but clinton has a big headstart. she is airing her first tv commercials tomorrow. >> i believe that when families are strong america is strong. it's your time. >> reporter: kate, the bottom line is this -- several indians zprends advisors to the vice president tell me that he is thinking about running. but anyone who believes he has already made up his mind is just wrong about that. they say he is going to think about it over the next month or so. he is spending this time with his family in wilmington, delaware and then he is going to make a decision. as for the clinton campaign how
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they are reacting to all of this. they say they never expected an easy path to the nomination. and now, kate it looks like it might not be quite so easy whether or not the vice president gets into the race. >> excellent point jeff. thanks. out front now, michael thornton a long time biden supporter and van jones a cnn political commentator. great to see you. jeff you heard jeff lying out everything in his report. from your pore suspective why does this race need joe biden? >> because he is best qualified. for one thing, his last seven years of service as vice president has been one of great distinction. whether there was a crisis abroad in china or ukraine or iran know biden was the person that was inevitably sent out there to sort it out and did a very good job on that. domestically he has been one of the few people in washington
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able to work on bipartisan basis. he has ga respect in the congress among republicans as well as the democrats. and finally, you look at his personal characteristics. he has great courage. he -- in these days when you worry about authenticity there is no one that questions joe biden's then fifth. he certainly says what he believe and what he stands for. finally, he is not a polarizing person. he is the time of person that can bring this country together i think to a degree. i think he would just make a great president. >> van, with all of that being said you think that joe biden would be wasting his time if he did. that's a pretty strong statement for a sitting vice president. why do you think that? >> well, just because he is a beloved figure. he is a respected figure. nobody would argue that he is not. but there is simply no great hunger in the democrat party outside of a very small circle of people for joe biden in particular to do anything. he is loved. he is respected. he is liked.
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but nobody is sitting around saying god, i just wish joe biden would get in this race. people are concerned about hillary clinton. but in hillary clinton implodes john kerry could jump in. biden could jump in. al gore to jump in. corey booker. anybody could jump in and have just as much support in this party. i just think it is a waste of his time for him to imagine -- he is too close to and too much like hillary clinton. the rising part of our party is economic populist. therefore bernie sappeders or elizabeth warren. he is not them. i don't see the space for him in our party. he is a beloved figure but i think he hurts himself by trying to run. >> michael i want your take. but also i want to ask you about all of the reporting is suggesting that beau biden is the one who really sparked this push to get joe biden to consider -- or talk about another run. i don't thinkbyr beau is likely the driving factor?
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also most importantly do you think it's enough to get his father to run? >> i think it's unquestionably a factor. but it's certainly not the only factor. joe biden has been interested in becoming president of the united states for many many years. and he has been talking about it in the last few years as a matter of fact. well before beau urged him to do so. as to whether he is wasting his time or not, he is going to consider this carefully. that's for him to determine. he knows a lot about the process. he is still going through a grieving process right you no. this is knots the easiest time for him in any respect. but i'm confident by the end of this month, or sometime in september he will be in a position to make a good decision. >> real quick van, i mean you talk about the fact that everyone loves jooi joe biden but they are not yearning for him to jump into the race. an important thing with these politician with running is do folks trust them. recent polls show americans not only like joe biden, they trust
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him, 58% in a recent poll that's to clinton's 37% in trust worthy. clinton continues to face a trust deficit with voters. doesn't that leave a real opening that you say doesn't exist? >> listen i think that -- listen this is not a democratic party that's only going to go based on trust and those factors. obviously people have some concerns right now about hillary clinton. i think hillary clinton is going to get stronger as she goes forward. here's reality. we have an actual democratic party that has an actual shape to it. what's rising in this party are two wings, the economic populist wing and the economic justice wing. he does not appeal to either wing. you have to win a primary by appealing to somebody. the black lives matter they like him, but they don't see him as a champion. he doesn't have his own pathway. instead, he is in the same lane as hillary clinton.
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if he blows up other people can jump in. i think he should stay where he is as a respected beloved vice president and let him go out that way. for him to jump into this race he is going to prove to a lot of people that he never had the chops to become president. why should he do that to himself when right now he can only go down in his esteem. >> ben jones, mike thornton thank so much. out front for us next the search for mh370 expanding once again tonight as investigators are set to analyze what very well could be a part of the missing plane's wing. plus another american is now accused of illegally hunting a prized animal in sam bob way. my guest tonight the texas hunter who paid $350,000 to kill an endangered black rhino. would it worth it? he is here to discuss.
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the search is expanding now
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for more possible mh370 debris after a wing flap that might frb the missing malaysia jet washed up on a remote island. authorities remain optimistic tonight that they may find more debris after confirming the wreckage is from a boeing 777, the same model that vanished really without a trace 17 months ago. tonight crash investigators are about to get their first chance to examine the debris. rene marsch is out front. . >> reporter: reunion island shoreline is being searched inch by inch. every object that washes ashore scrutinized by investigators looking for parts of the missing malaysia airliner. the hunt for even more aircraft debris has now expandsed to nearby sarels and ma rishs island. volunteers are looking for anything noting at sea that could belong to plane. so far nothing as promising as this find which officials now
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confirm is a piece of a boeing 777's wing. >> it is a boeing 777 part but whether it is a mh370 part yet to be verified. i want to emphasize it is yet to be verified. >> reporter: wednesday investigators will begin running tests to verify if it's part of the missing plane. the french lab where the flaperon will be examined has sophisticated equipment and experts to quickly identify which plane it belongs to. the paint is one of the many things they will examine. steve wang's mother was on board mh370. he tells cnn's will ripley he still listens to her last voice mail. even if this is confirmed to be part of missing plane, wang says he won't bring closure. >> i think the only closure will come at the time when they find the plane and find everybody and find the truth.
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>> reporter: investigators met today in paris ahead of wednesday's test which could ultimately determine if this is the first piece of tangible evidence connected to aviation's biggest mystery. a source close to the investigation tells me tomorrow investigators from boeing will meet at the lab in thieu louis. they are expected to work with the malaysian investigator in charge to develop a game plan for investigating this boeing 777 debris. and on wednesday that in-depth analysis is supposed to get underway. >> everyone will be watching that's for sure. renee, thank you very much. out front now, richard quest, and david gallo, the directr of special projects at the wood's hole ocean graphic institution. gentlemen, great to see you. richard, how quickly as renee is laying out they are going to meet and start analyzing. how quickly do you think it will take for them to determine if this is mh370?
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>> before we get to that about it let's talk about why it is taking so long to get to this part. this is a prosecutor involved. you have then got all the different countries involved. and you have got to make sure you protect and you decide exactly how you are going to start analyzing this piece of evidence. >> this wasn't -- this system wasn't set up already. >> no. >> because france had been been involved to this point. >> but they know what they are doing in the ends of it. >> of course. >> they are going to take it slowly. they are going to take it slowly with great care and make sure that everybody is on board at every step of the way. and if that means starting on wednesday, then so be it that's what they will do. but they cannot afford to sort of hack away at this thing and open it up and see what's there. everybody has object on board. >> there is that david. when this process begins walk us through it. what are they going to do to analyze this b.a. debris and what do you think they are going to be able to learn from this
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piece realistically? >> i think, kate what they will begin to do is look for serial numbers. but they examine the skin first because they can learn a lot from the skin and. and especially with this piece, where the leading edge the front of that piece is in fairly good shape. the trailing edge the bask it looks like it's in tatters. i'm sure they will examine that examine every way it was attached to the eric. make presumptions how it got separated from the aircraft. they will look at a barncals look at the life living on it see if it's that's consistent with living in the ocean for so long. richard is absolutely right. everything is going to be done by firmly established protocols. statements will probably come out in a very rigid way. and certain press releases. you won't see any more leaks coming out of the bea. i can promise you. >> they want to get it right rather than get it fast. everyone can understand that.
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richard, you say it's common to use a special microscope to look at the material how it's stretched, pulled apart, how it's torn how it's ripped. do you think they will be able to confirm this is mh370 through this process? >> that's the big unknown. if there is no single serial number but there are parts numbers -- so we know it's from a 777 -- >> right. >> the least satisfying outcome for the families is that they are told it's from a plane and we deduce it's from the one that your loved one was on. that may well be as far as we can get with this. >> wow, really? >> yes, because -- >> that's not going to be enough for these families. >> well, that's the reality of this situation. if there is no serial -- we are deducing. they are make assumptions at this point. and if there is no hard serial number on it that will be the end result. >> so david, you also -- as
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richard is laying out, it might be difficult the put it all together. but you also talk about how they are going to look at chemical residue on this flap. what can you get from chemical residue on this plane at this point. remember it has been floating in the ocean for 500-plus days. >> as it does that it will pick up the chemistry of the oceans, too. some of the organisms living on there will have built their shells and bodies out of sea water. so they will have a very particular kind of chemistry. there may be residue left on there from the plane -- from either the fuel or from if there was an he can ploegs perhaps, but i don't think it would have survived 500-some-odd days at sea. you are absolutely right. in the caves air frons 447 we had a lot of pieces of the aircraft that were floating on the surface. but the family really wanted to see the plane itself the remains, the wreckage on the sea floor. and most importantly, the recovery of the black boxes and their loved ones. >> and it sounds -- the more excitement there is it does
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sound like they may still be far off from getting the answers they really truly want. richard, thank you. david, thank you. coming up for us out front next as outrage grows over the death of cecil the lion another american is accused of illegally hunting in zimbabwe. my guest, a texas man who paid $350,000 to kill an endangered black rhino. why did he do it. plus breaking news. the suspect in the shooting death of a white police officer has just been arrested. what was the motive? that story is next. big day? ah, the usual. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what's up for the next shift? ah, nothing much. just keeping the lights on. (laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy. see you tomorrow, mac. see you tomorrow, sam. just another day at norfolk southern.
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tonight officials in zimbabwe are identifying a second maernl american accused of illegally kalg lion. the doctor who is not being named by cnn is from pennsylvania and according to zimbabwe's park authority killed the lion back in april. this accusations come of course after the killing the beloved lion named cecil by the dentist walter palmer. as we speak tonight, government officials in zimbabwe are trying to get him extradited to face charges for killing cecil.
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david mckenzie is out front from south africa tonight. david, there are now two americans accused of illegally hunting lions. do you get the sense that zimbabwe is targeting americans in any way? >> i don't think so in the first case because it was after that worldwide outcry about the alleged illegal killing of cecil that the zimbabwe authorities actually started to comment on this one way or the other. in a way, they were following that outcry with their zaimts statements of trying to extradite dr. walt palmer n. this case perhaps they are naming an american saying this happened way back in april of this year. they aren't exactly accusing that doctor of anything specific. but they do sort of list him as if he should be allegedly involved in a crime. so yes, you know the u.s. and zimbabwe are on some pretty tricky situation right now in terms of relations. so they could be trying to score
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cheap points here. but it's too early to tell until they actually outline exactly what they say happened. >> excellent point. may be some politics at play as you point out. at the same time big game hunting happens all the time in africa. why do you think these cases have touched such a nerve? >> i think it's because cecil was such a well-known lion in zimbabwe. if fact that he was lured out of this park and then killed in such a manner that they stalked him for 40 hours injured, and then shot him -- you know all of these things came together to really touch a nerve with public opinion. and i think people didn't realize that this kind of hunting necessarily went on. that's why it generated this interest. where it goes on from here -- one thing to remember poaching the issue of illegally killing animals for trade, is on some level a far bigger issue for wildlife populations than professional or amateur hunting. but certainly, it's put a
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spotlight on this issue of trophy hunting. some people are saying it must now be banned. >> david mckenzie, thank. out front tonight, corey knoll ton, a big game hunter who traveled to namibia earlier this year to hunt a black rhino paying $350,000 for that trophy hunt. corey thains thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> i want your reaction to what david and i were just talking about. what do you make of the fact that the zimbabwe government is now pointing the finger at two americans for illegal kills? >> i think they are trying to do the best due diligence they can. the spotlight is on them. as they should. if it turns out it was a crime -- especially the first case it should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. but i think the rule of law should prevail here and we should wait and see what actually happened. i think you are getting a lot of talk and a lot of different opinions some from antihunting organizations, some from miami
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more credible sources, but i don't know that the truth has yet to come out on this. i'm really just being patient and waiting to hear more things before i just make a judgment call on it. >> what more do you want to hear corey? what are the questions you have? >> there is lot of questions to it. seems like everybody has gone straight to the hunter in this case. i feel like the professional hunter -- those who have hunted in africa or travelled around the world and hunted you have to understand the professional hunter is the boss. if you go over there and he presents you the documentation that you are going on a legal hunt and this guy paid $55,000 for this hunt. it wasn't like he paid $5500 for that hunt. that's the going rate for that hunt probably in that part of the world. it leads me there is a chance mr. palmer was duped. was it ethical, some of the things that he did? definitely a lot of the aspects of it were legal.
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you can shoot a lion in zimbabwe with a collar on it. you can shoot a lion with a bow and arrow. there were a lot of things that came out at first that weren't well and true. those are the things as well as the lion actually having a name to it that blew this situation up so high. i think if it was another lion that was killed by an africa poacher that happens all the time i don't think we would be sitting here talking about it. >> let me ask you about that in the case of dr. palmer he is facing potentially extradition. he has faced death threats and has now gone into hiding. you have also faced death threats following your hunt. kinds of makes you wonder -- makes me wonder -- is the personal toll worth it to continue with this sport? does this now give you second thoughts? >> it doesn't give me second thoughts at all. death threats are -- i had -- i can't tell you the amount of death threats i had. and what i went on was one of the most legal vetted hunts in the history of the world. what you need to understand -- i think the population is missing this on this.
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the vast majority this hunting habitat, especially for lions, is hunting areas. and the vast majority of the dollars that are protecting these animals are from legal hunting. so keep this in mind too. the people that are the game scouts in these areas and the people that are prosecuting these crimes they are paid for with hunter's -- their salaries are paid for with hunters' dollars. if you take this out of it -- you take it out, you are losing a gigantic area of has been at that time. you lose the prey animals. you lose the whole situation. absolutely it's worth taking some death threats from some people who don't understand the reality of the situation in africa and the reality of keeping these animals and what it takes to keep them on the face of the earth. >> it has definitely gotten thrown into the spotlight. where the money goes that is disputed i know as you well know by critics of the sport. but that is not the discussion tonight. >> sure. >> i -- >> i understand what you are
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saying. but if they look it up you can find out where the money goes. >> there we go. >> you have to dig. >> dig up that information. corey, thank you very much. i appreciate your time. >> thanks kate. you have a great night. out front for us next we have breaking news. >> officer is down. whereas the suspect? >> a massive manhunt is finally over for a 29-year-olds suspected of gunning down a memphis police officer during a traffic stop. also for us ahead, on a much lighter note, the stunt that made a professional biker tremble in his boots.
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breaking news on the manhunt for a suspect accused of shooting and killing a memphis police officer. authorities just announced that tremaine wilbourn is in custody. >> reporter: memphis police announcing a man wanted for killing a police officer is in custody. wilbourn turned himself in this evening following a two day manhunt. it began saturday night when officer sean bolton spotted a car. as he approaches he is confronted by wilbourn and he
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opens fire. a citizen uses the officer's raidy to call for help. but it is too late. >> he's shot. >> officer is shot. an officer down in front of the location. >> this is just a reminder of how dangerous this job is. >> bolton a former marine who served in iraq had been on the force nearly five years. investigators believe heave he interrupted a drug deal saturday night and that's why wilbourn, a convicted felon, shot the officer multiple times. tony armstrong visibly emotional shortly after the shooting. >> as a community we say so often there is a thing, do black lives matter? at the end of the day we ask ourselves do all lives matter regardless of creed, color, economic status, what profession that person holds. all lives matter.
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>> reporter: in the last three years three memphis police officers including bolton have been shot and killed in the line of duty. >> when you look at this individual, you are looking at a coward. he is a coward. >> wilbourn's arraignment schedule ford tomorrow. in his interrogation with police he told them "i am not a cold-blooded killer, i am not a coward." kate. >> nick valencia thank you very much. >> you bet. >> next for us surfing like you have never seen it before. not the device that is mobile, it is you. real madrid have about 450 million fans. we're trying to give them all the feeling of being at the stadium. the microsoft cloud gives us the scalability to communicate exactly the content that people want to see. it will help people connect to their passion of living real madrid.
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always seemed like the impossible feat. but biking on the watt, we leave that to jeanne moos. >> reporter: it makes walking on water seem lame. stunt biker robbie madison didn't just ride on water. he rode the waves in tahiti no way, you say. >> it's an overwhelming experience. >> reporter: it took three years of experimentation, culminating on a dirt bike on two skis with tires protruding through cutouts custom made paddle tire propelling the bike from the rear like an old steam paddleboat. how many times over the course of the project did you actually sink the thing? >> about, 30 40 times easily. >> reporter: no wonder his bike wears airbags so they can recover it. the video released coincidental coincidentally the same weekend as the dog surfing contest in california. the pooches managed cool moves
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on their surfboards. none of them hot dogs like this? madison's past stunts ranged from doing a flip over london bridge to a leap over a greek canal. he has been a stunt double for james bond. though none of that compared to this. >> it was one of the most terrifying situationize have ever been in. >> reporter: but you don't see the scariest part of the stunt when madison was missing for several minutes. launching from a barge with a ramp he caught one of tahiti's monster waves. >> it picked me up. slammed me. the motorcycle drove me into the back. i lost all the air in my lungs. >> reporter: for four minutes he was under water able to surface for a breath three times. and gave up fighting and saw the peaceful lightness of a near-death experience to. be continued when the behind the scenes video is released later this month.
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never has a dirt bike been cleaner. jeanne moos cnn, new york. >> can you imagine when he turns to his friend. you guys i have this awesome idea. i am going to surf with my dirt bike. i would love to have win in the room then. thank you for joining us. and "ac 360" starts now. >> thank you for joining us. we have breaking news that could decide to which ten republican presidential hopefuls make it on stage for the first debate of campaign 2016. it may also say a lot about donald trump's staying power. there is new polling just out from fox news which is of course running the debate. you can see it there. mr. trump leading by a lot. 26% to 15% over jeb bush with scott walker third. and john kasich who happens to be governor of state where the debate takes place. he barely squeaks in. the latest monmouth survey showing donald trump with 26% support. gove